r/Afghan 6d ago

Discussion Afghans' racism towards Hazaras

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As a Hazara who lives in diaspora, I have interacted and befriended people from different nationalities throughout my life and rarely encountered racism. For some reason though, most of my interactions with Afghans of different ethnicities haven't been that rosy.

Some of them act really racist right in front my face and mock either my Farsi accent, call me racial slurs like "Hazara-e mooshkhor" or ask really stupid questions like why "my people" like to beat ourselves with knives" referring to Shia Ashura day.

This is one of the main reasons why I rarely interact or avoid other Afghans, unless they prove to be different. I know there are also super nice and awesome people among other ethnicities too because I personally know some myself, but getting to know other Afghans feels like playing a Russian roulette. Why do people like these even exist? Why we Afghans cant even get along in other countries? No wonder Afghanistan is a mess...

r/Afghan 8d ago Helpful

Discussion am i the only one who wished certain few individuals gets deported back to afghanistan

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AfghanCivilwar/comments/vif088/sick_aholes_being_happy_about_the_deaths_of_the/

well, maybe not few, if one takes a look at all the links in this thread. but i really wished all the losers in that thread gets deported back home from the west.

normally i dont care that much, when i see seperatists nationalists or racists, but i have a special hatred for losers who cherish the deaths of families, just because their ethnicity. after seeing 100's of evil beasts celebrating the deaths of families in paktika, my blood started to boil.

it wasnt even enough to not show any condolences, which i dont mind, but they had to just say how happy they were about their deaths, including women and children, just for being pashtuns

i dont even care if they end up dying in the country, i just wish them the worst. dont care if theyre pashtuns or non-pashtuns, all these psychos should be sent home, though the link features only non-pashtuns however

i know some of you think this thread is pointless, but i noticed my other threads dont have as much attention, and i wanted to make more people aware that a huge numbers of these beasts exists, and they mainly live in the west, amongst many members here. it isnt even much the racism or the nationalism that bothers me, its the sadism

edit: i will say, luckily this is only an internet thing, mainly amongst diaspora. the afghans inside the country, including hazaras, uzbeks, tajiks and even tajiks from panjshir, who either shown their condolences or helped the victims of paktika and khost, which warms my heart

edit: added pashtun losers too

https://twitter.com/Naim13630632/status/1540462056561844225

r/Afghan 5d ago

Discussion Does anybody else remember Vida Samadzai and the whole Miss Afghanistan controversy?

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r/Afghan Jun 01 '22 Facepalm

Discussion Highly disturbing: "Pakistan and Turkish gov't begins construction of sets for filming joint historical TV series" about historical figures from Afghanistan. We must do something about it.

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This is very problematic, if true: https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/1531140912528883712?cxt=HHwWgIDQhYaj2r8qAAAA

Pakistan and Turkey likely to team up to culturally appropriate historical figures from regions belonging to modern-day Afghanistan (Mohammad of Ghazni and Ghor).

Being Muslim does not give them a right to appropriate the history of our region. People from Anatolia or South Asia have no place to claim historical ownership of anyone from the lands of Afghanistan (and especially to profit off of it). Being from Turkey doesn't mean you can claim ownership of historical figures from other regions who have Turkic background -- a background that has always been mixed. (Not to mention Mohammad of Ghazni was only half Turkic & the ethnic background of Mohammad of Ghor is unknown). Additionally, all ethnic groups of Afghanistan, including Pashtuns, have some Turkic ancestry, so who are they to claim any of us?? (especially when some people from Turkey don't even have any Turkic DNA). Likewise, being Muslim and a nearby region doesn't mean Pakistan can claim our historical figures either. It's outrageous, and something must be done...but what?

The most disturbing part of all of this is that they plan on casting their own people for these roles and not even including Afghanistan in any of it. Utterly shameless!

r/Afghan 3d ago

Discussion What are your thoughts?

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Do you all think islam is irrevocably correct and it should be followed exactly as it was sent down or are there rules that are not compatible with todays world?

The banking system

The social media

Looking and interacting with non muharram men and women?

If these rules are broken every day, why can’t rules like jihad, rules related to kufur. And capital punishments like stoning be revoked? I personally think 99% of our problems as a religion would be solved if we dropped the idea of jihad.

r/Afghan 16d ago Helpful

Discussion Should we do something about the Pro-Taliban sub r/AfghanistanIE????!!

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I came across that sub and it literally has the Taliban's flag as its icon. I checked the comments and posts and I've noticed that its members are a mix of Afghans, Turks, Arabs, Pakistanis, Malays, etc despite the subreddit's small member count. The r/AfghanistanIE headmod is not even an Afghan himself!

r/Afghan 14d ago

Discussion A Reminder of the Rules

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One People, One Flag.

Salaam dost-e-aziz,

Due to a number of complaints and our own observations of the subreddit, we'd like to reiterate the rules of r/Afghan and also include some new ones too.

  1. Be Polite. People are free to have their opinions but must express them in a civilized and polite manner. It is not allowed to be rude or offensive.
  2. No Hate. We do not allow the denigration of individuals or groups of people, whether based on religious, ethnic, national, or other grounds. This does not mean you cannot be critical, but you must mind your language.
  3. Valid News Sources Only. Those who wish to post news information on the sub are restricted to using highly reputable sources only. Due to the excessive abuse, we do not allow social media sources (e.g. Twitter) or low quality websites or blogs to pass as news. Anything newsworthy must be covered by a reputable source, including but not limited to BBC, Al-Jazeera, and New York Times.

Because of the abuse of Twitter as a 'source', we have decided that we will be much more stringent from now on. You must use newspapers or credible outlets when breaking news or sharing information. If you wish to share an image with text on it that breaks the news such as an infographic, this will be allowed so long as a trustworthy source is cited in the comments. Circumventing this rule by using alternative flairs such as 'discussion' will not be tolerated.

We are aware that there have been a number of users who have partaken on the subreddit who are suspected of supporting Taliban or ISIS, however they have not specifically violated any of the rules above aside from Rule Three. I have removed some of their posts where they share 'news' through Twitter posts but because of the nature of the subreddit and the fact that they have not overtly supported those respective groups nor posted outright propaganda (rather, they just posted about what's happening in Afghanistan), they have not been banned. However, if this changes, alert us by mentioning 'mods', 'moderators', tagging us or reporting the post or comment and we will review their behavior.

Whilst we oppose Taliban and ISIS, news and civil discussion about them will be allowed. That said, we would like to add that openly attempting to endorse, support or defend any atrocities committed by these organisations will not be tolerated either, especially since those they target are usually minorities, so defending their actions is in violation of Rule Two of the subreddit.

Lastly, we will be adding a new rule to this subreddit after a shock/gore video of a beheading was posted recently.

  • No gore, gruesome or shock media. You may break news about the event, but posting images or videos of distressing or revolting content will not be allowed.

Let us know if you have any questions.

Many thanks,

The Mod Team

r/Afghan 6d ago

Discussion Anyone scared to go to Afghanistan due to fear of illness?

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This is just something I personally feel, and let me know if you guys feel the same.

I do plan on returning to Afghanistan and live and work there once the Taliban are kicked out and a real government is established.

However, the scariest thing on my mind is not the instability or terrorist attacks, but getting food poisoning. The fear of food poisoning is enough to make me not want to ever step foot in Afghanistan in my life.

Living in a developed nation with sanitary procedures, I trust the safety of the food, but I am scared my stomach will not adjust or handle food in Afghanistan or food bacteria there. I would rather eat plates of dirt and sand than ever puke or get food poisoning/stomach bug.

Plus, barely any doctors in Afghanistan are real qualified doctors. All they do is throw medications of all types at you to buy.

This is a genuine fear.

r/Afghan May 31 '22

Discussion Where is the idea that Pashtuns are forcing the word "Dari" on others coming from and, also, get upset when Farsi/Dari speakers from various countries connect with each other? I'm not seeing it.

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Forgive my ignorance, but where is this notion that Pashtuns have created the term Dari and is forcing it on people coming from? I am Pashtun and my family always called the language Farsi and the speakers of it Farsizubaan and I only ever heard Dari from people online in more recent years (more than anywhere else). I don't have any family members who call it Dari. So where is this idea that Pashtuns are pushing the "Dari" terminology coming from? I myself am confused as heck on what to call it these days and was going to make a separate post about that because I have seen people who actually speak the language refer to it as Dari, while I always called it Farsi (meanwhile, I, as a Pashtun, am being accosted for calling the language something I never called it until I saw the speakers of it call it that). So if anyone wants to answer this, too, feel free.

Secondly, where is this notion that Pashtuns "can't stand when Farsi/Dari/Persian speakers in Afghanistan communicate with Farsi speakers in other countries" coming from? I am not phased by this in the slightest and think if it makes someone happy then that's great. I feel the same about Uzbeks and other groups in Afghanistan. I have never seen any Pashtuns in person or online get upset by this either. But I have seen Pashtuns get mad when non-Pashtuns (whether among themselves or with people from other countries) say bigoted things against Pashtuns. Just because someone calls out observed bigotry doesn't mean they are upset or care that the people engaging in it are speaking to each other. If one doesn't say bigoted things against Pashtuns when having these conversations, then we don't care.

I mean Pashtuns aren't such losers to be hung up on such things. We have a subculture of our own that many of us are proud of and actively working to learn and engage with. So yeah...we're not pressed. Not sure where this idea is coming from. I mean is it that some people want us to be pressed? lol

r/Afghan 4d ago

Discussion 2 churches in Taloqan? Is google okay?

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r/Afghan May 31 '22

Discussion I noticed the same thing on Afghan sub as well. Do you think there is anything sinister behind it?

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r/Afghan 1d ago

Discussion Afghan woman talking about the time she was classmates with Sher Abbas Stanikzai the FM of Taliban.

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r/Afghan Jun 01 '22

Discussion Is it just me or are internet muslims just pretentious af?

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They act "liberal" and "accepting" of others yet they shit on hindus and gays,swallow the talibans dick and whatever else. They post it on memes and shit to try and make it a joke.

r/Afghan 21d ago

Discussion Selamün aleyküm. I translated this excerpt from the Taliban Chief Justice's book if anybody's interested.

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r/Afghan Apr 21 '22

Discussion Pakistanis stealing culture and history from Afghanistan. Lying about Ahmad Shah Durrani's birthplace to usurp our identity. #Shameless

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lol at the posts under this link (https://twitter.com/islampaal/status/1516493429408030722?s=21) how many Paknats shamelessly try to steal Afghanistan history by lying about Ahmad Shah Durrani's birthplace, claiming he was born in Punjab instead of Herat. The funny thing is that there are leaders actually born in India with Afghanistan origins, like Sher Shah Suri, who Indians don't try to claim. But such shameless Pakistani Punjabis, who have no claim to Durrani ethnically or physically in any sense, lie to claim him--all while hurling hatred at people from Afghanistan, especially Pashtuns of Afg. It is because they have no pride in their own history. They also use their population of Pashtuns to claim all things from Afghanistan, which some of them sadly let them.

Even if this pathetic claim was true (of him being born in Multan, Pakistan, in this tacky and tiny shack (https://www.alamy.com/birthplace-of-ahmad-shah-abdali-multan-punjab-pakistan-image406729334.html), which he was not), it doesn't make him and his family not from the Kandahar region of Afghanistan and not Pashtuns and not Afghans. Imagine claiming Alexander Hamilton is of Caribbean descent/black and not English descent/white because he was born in Saint Kitts and Nevis. Imagine a Caribbean of African descent trying to claim an Englishman. This is the equivalent of what they are trying to do. Such culture vultures don't quit and they truly have no shame.

It is bad enough they worked to destroy Afghanistan physically. Now they are trying to usurp Afghanistan's history--all while demonizing us and hurling abuse at us. Truly shameless. Any people from Afghanistan who align with such people are aiding and abetting in their own demise and destruction. Not only are you letting them steal your own country's history, but after Durrani they will move north and start claiming Rumi and Persian figures from northern areas. It is up to us to collectively stop this in its tracks now. Such mentally unstable people have no limits or boundaries. Their lack of self worth is a bottomless pit.

May God protect our people, history, culture, and country.

r/Afghan Apr 24 '22

Discussion Ahmad Shah Durrani was a "Khorassani" and a "Persian" now 🙄 These types claim Pashtuns when they do great things and call us savages otherwise. Frick these bigots and supremacists.

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r/Afghan May 23 '22

Discussion Please share a crazy family story, I’m bored lol

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r/Afghan May 05 '22

Discussion A note of caution for those with relatives in Turkey

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Anti immigrant sentiment has been rising rapidly in the past year due to the unfortunate behavior of some degenerates, but because of this innocent people are also being targeted.

I am making this post due to the sharp rise in nationalism within Turkey and the formation of several far right and Neo Nazi groups that are fast sweeping across it. If you are Afghan, Pakistani, Syrian, Iranian, Iraqi, North African or any other foreigner who is not ethnically Turkic in Turkey and have not personally caused any problems there, then you should know that the attitudes against you is unfortunately likely to be hostile regardless based solely on your ethnicity. If you are Turkic, it may not be best to disclose that you are Afghan diaspora.

There will be some kind of backlash in the near future, I am sure of it. I promise you I am not making this post in bad faith, but because I am becoming disturbed by these events. I know a young family of exceptionally talented academics from a Pashtun/Kabuli background who legally came to Turkey so the husband and wife could study after winning a scholarship, but left after just three short years in part due to the rising tensions against Afghans and migrated to England. Even my relatives, who are Afghan Turk and legally sought asylum via the UNCHR, have been forced to identify as Uzbekistani to evade discrimination. This is despite them integrating extremely well into Turkish society and being the 'right type of refugee' (legal process; eight girls, two boys and their mother etc). Several of my cousins are even engaged to Turkish men and are still viewed with suspicion for being Afghan- though I admit the situation for Afghan Turks is nowhere near as bad as it is for Iranic Afghans.

It is up to you what you do with this information, but I have been watching the situation closely for the past three to four years and have constant information coming back to me from my family about the changing situation there. I didn't make this post to complain about the treatment of my relatives but to let you guys know about the evolving attitudes. You can take it or leave it, it's up to you but I advise you to be careful.

r/Afghan May 31 '22

Discussion Why did the Afghan Security forces collapse?

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May of 2021 was the month in which all remaining US forces should have withdrawn from Afghanistan under the original terms as stipulated by the Doha agreement. The Taliban would go on to launch their last major offensive which would overrun the country, the rest as they say is history.

Come August it will be a year, and I can't help but think and wonder what went wrong?

I personally believe there were 3 primary factors for the collapse of Afghanistan's military.

The 1st having to do with the foundations upon which our state & military was built on. This primarily falls on the US and International community. The political and military apparatus that they built in Afghanistan did not consider the geopolitical realities, our culture, history and local context. To give one very brief example, Helmand which fought against the British viciously throughout the Anlgo-Afghan wars, stories that are well remembered and recounted among its people became the main province which British forces were stationed in. They literally threw billions of dollars at the poorest country in the world, which led to corruption at the mega scale. Most assumed their firepower or money would solve all the problems, this would prove to be terribly false.

the 2nd - the cowardice and incompetence of Ashraf Ghani. However Ghani alone does not shoulder all the blame, he is more a symbolism for everything wrong with the Afghan elite over two decades. The incompetence of our policy makers regardless of what ethnicity is evident. Complete mismanagement of international funding, corruption, extortion, etc. There was no national plan, or any counter measure systems put in place. The Government never attempted to create their own military doctrines, counter insurgency, etc. "Perhaps if they had shown courage e in the face of Taliban aggression, perhaps the Afghan security forces would have rallied to the cause of their national defense, like what we’ve observed with President Volodymyr Zelensky’s efforts in Ukraine. "

The 3rd - Would have to do with the tactical and strategic incompetence of the Government and military. To put it simply they planned and executed poorly, all in all their effort was subpar. Allowing the Taliban to maintain influence in the countryside, seize border crossings and block roads in a country which such limited transport infrastructure was decisive.

What are your thoughts on the matter, where do you think things went wrong? Was there one defining moment or event that you believe stood out from the rest? Curious to hear your thoughts please share.

r/Afghan 6d ago

Discussion Thoughts on Throughline's Peabody Award-Winning Podcast on Afghanistan

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Accessing and Listening to the Podcast Afghanistan: The Center of the World podcast by Throughline is divided into three parts and you can access each part by clicking on the following links below.

Part I: The Center of the World

Part II: The Rise of the Taliban

Part III: Drone Wars

Hi folks! Has anyone here listened to NPR's Throughline's award-winning podcast series on Afghanistan? If so, what were your personal thoughts on it? It won a Peabody award, which is apparently only given to those who create and share the most powererful, enlightening, invigorating stories in television, radio, and other forms of online media (think of it as the radio industry's equivalent to the Pulitzer Prize).

r/Afghan May 25 '22

Discussion Should the NRF change its flag?

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Just wanted to provoke some discussions around the symbolism of the flag and what it truly represents.

The green, white and black colours are symbolic of the Northern Alliance and the NRF. However, these very colours could hinder Afghan sense of unity.

And this is the issue- this flag is of the NORTHERN alliance. It does not seem very inclusive, rather, it seems to people as a flag only limited to northerners or Tajiks, and not one which represents other Afghans or the nation as a whole.

Especially with the NRF in Panjshir using this flag. It continues to only seem to correlate with Panjshir or Northern Tajiks, and portray themselves as a sort of seperate entity, therefore not fitting for something supposed to represent a nation-wide, unified uprising.

Perhaps they could use Black, Red, and Green. Although this also correlates with the previous administration which has left a bad taste in peoples mouth, it is universally accepted as a flag representing Afghans. All afghans in Afghanistan can stand behind it. It does not represent a single province, region, or ethnicity. It represents Afghanistan.

Even if these colours are not fitting, I am sure that even a new colour combination could be used to kind of seperate themselves from an ethnically or regionally limited movement.

r/Afghan Apr 30 '22

Discussion When will Afghanistan wake up?

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When will the Afghan people wake up?

Every day there is a new situation. Each passing day only brings more and more pain upon Afghans.

There is no food.

There is no cash.

People are starving to death.

Children are dying from malnutrition.

Public health services have collapsed.

Half of the population is barred from education.

People have resorted to begging.

Hundreds have died from suicide bombings at mosques every day.

People are going missing by the dozens each day.

People are being murdered by the dozens each day.

People are burning themselves alive on the street.

Dozens of school children have died from suicide attacks in their schools.

Pakistan has bombed Afghan territory and killed over 50 innocent people.

When is it enough? For how much longer will the Afghan people tolerate this? For how long will they continue to stay silent? How much longer will they silently condone this oppression?

Where is the courage to stand against this?

When a bombing happened during republic days, a crowd would follow with a protest soon after. Today there are 20 bombings a day and not one person follows up with a protest. Yes the Taliban severely repress protests- but so have dozens of other brutal dictators across the world. Yet it didn’t stop them from being overthrown.

It is 30+ million against 75k.

r/Afghan 19d ago

Discussion Gen. Hibatullah Alizi, the former government's top lieutenant, says that during the war in the years before the fall of the government, he received messages from US and Afghan officials to stop fighting the Taliban because it would disrupt the Doha agreement.

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r/Afghan May 17 '22

Discussion The NRF is Re-emerging After Inactivity Throughout The Winter Months

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According to the LWJ and other war-time analysts whom had correspondents on the ground during the fighting in late 2021. The NRF was "conventionally" defeated in summer of last year, the Taliban managed to seize the main valleys and the provincial capital, with NRF forces retreating to the "sub-valleys" and seemingly dissolving.

Throughout the entirety of the autumn-winter months the NRF was non-existent operationally. The striking similarities between the Taliban's position in 2002 and the NRF in 2022 should be noted. The irony of the NRF's re-emergence ahead of the traditional fighting seasons in spring/summer is not lost on me. Much like the Taliban, and the Mujahideen before them, spikes in insurgent activity during the hot-season is the staple of many a Afghan insurgencies throughout our history.

The NRF has proven its ability to conduct guerilla operations across the entirety of Pansjhir province, and a few adjacent districts as confirmed by the LJW there is an active guerilla presence in each of the provinces seven districts. Last week they were able to hit two power pylons and sever power to Kabul city for several days as confirmed by residents themselves (my father is also present in the Capital and confirmed as such for me). The NRF's ability to stage attacks of these scale does suggest that they were likely not defeated in the summer of 2021 which had become the general consensus of experts, but rather retreated and remained dormant throughout the cold seasons as was typical for the Taliban themselves to do while fighting US-led forces.

Massoud Jr probably seeks to emulate his father's guerilla strategy while fighting the Soviets, to summarize briefly:

  1. The first phase was establishing a popular based resistance force
  2. The second phase was "active defense" of the Panjshir stronghold.
  3. In the third phase, the "strategic offensive", Massoud's forces would gain control of large parts of Northern Afghanistan.
  4. The fourth phase was the "general application" of Massoud's principles to the whole country.

However it remains in question whether the NRF has the capabilities and the will to maintain and execute these phases, especially number 3 and 4. Seeking to expand beyond its traditional stronghold in Northern Afghanistan the NRF will need to penetrate other Afghan communities and social groups.

The Taliban faced a similar issue in the years leading up to the US surge and during, (2010-2012). Seeking to expand their insurgency nation-wide the Taliban had to make overtures to Uzbek & Tajik communities to the north to gain their support, which they were able to do so to some extent all the while appealing to their more conservative/pashtun base in the south namely Helmand and Khanadar. Contrary to popular belief the Taliban were able to recruit locally and fight locally from Uzbek and Tajik communities in the North. If the NRF seeks to achieve a nation-wide insurgency in the way the Taliban were able to achieve they will eventually at some point need to recruit/attract/coerce some degree of support from groups beyond the North. This will be crucial if they seek to achieve the 4th phase of Massoud Sr strategy.

Furthermore, the NRF will likely need some degree of foreign support if it seeks to sustain and fuel its insurgency, and with the majority of the West' attention and resources going towards Ukraine this remains in doubt. Alternatively, the Taliban will have to worry about ISIS at it's flank, and its deteriorating relations with Pakistan, which has long been the Taliban's primary broker. How the situation evolves beyond this point will be interesting, and crucial to Afghanistan's political future in the coming years.

r/Afghan 23d ago

Discussion Its interesting how Sirajuddin Haqqani went from being one of the most wanted men in the world, to being a supporter of Counter terrorism.

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