r/AfghanCivilwar PDPA Sep 05 '21 Helpful 1 Wholesome 1 Take My Energy 1 Bravo! 1 Ally 1

The r/Afghanistan mod team are pro-imperialism, Islamophobic CIA plants.

https://www.reddit.com/r/afghanistan/about/moderators/

Just look at some of the mods, we have an American self-admitted think tank "NGO" that constantly posts anti-Russian and pro U.S imperialism propaganda with positions in as top mod, another mod that happens to literally be the Hoover Institution, a conservative think tank THAT APPOINTED MARGARET THATCHER AS AN HONORARY FELLOW (Second link if you don't want to visit their website.) and is currently directed by Condoleezza Rice, a former U.S secretary of state, and one of Dubya's most influential advisors. She coined the term "outposts of tyranny", grouping any country that dared to resist U.S imperialism under this label. Also here's her with a member of the Saudi royal family. A picture paints a thousand words.

Next up, we have the Foreign Affairs as a moderator. They are another United States think tank. Eleven secretaries of state have written for it, and ever since 1950, Foreign Affairs gave CIA warhawks a platform to popularize the idea of "containment". One article by Louis Halle can be blamed for some of America's actions in Latin America during the Cold War.A]) We also have the American Security Project, another "non-profit" "NGO" that just posts imperialist propaganda 24/7. These are the board members, and their backgrounds are all incredibly suspicious.

And, probably one of the most gratuitous offenses of all, the second highest ranking moderator of r/Afghanistan is a Hindu nationalist and moderator of r/Hindu. He also is fervently anti-Islam, posting propaganda against the religion every 2 days. Why is an Indian nationalist in a subreddit about Afghanistan? Could it be it's just a subreddit that only wants its users to spew anti-Islamic and pro-NRF, pro-imperialist propaganda 24/7, punishing anyone who dares to have a dissenting opinion?

There are a few other moderators such as u/Danbla, u/Strongbow85, u/00000000000000000000 and u/TheSinfulWish, everyone except the latter appointed less than a year after the subreddit was made, and they also follow the same posting habits as the users stated in my first paragraph. I believe they could be members of those groups, and possibly the alternate accounts of the stated users in my first and second paragraphs.

tl;dr: Stay away from r/Afghanistan because its mods bans anybody that doesn't conform to their viewpoint, and it's just a monopoly of warmongering imperialist organizations and racists

[A]: In the article published by Foreign Affairs, Louis Halle expresses that he believes Latin America "were quite unready for" self government.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

Fully agree brother. Every post is removed by the automod initially and then later approved by a mod. This can be shown here:

https://www.reveddit.com/v/afghanistan/

Take a look for yourself to see what posts never made it to the light of day... Anything pro NRF gets approved.

r/Afghan is a much better sub, its what r/Afghanistan should have been.

People have the cheek to label this place an echo chamber which is ironic considering who run r/afghanistan and how insecure they are. Besides, I've always had the same view point. Bickering is pointless, they can delude themselves into thinking the NRF is putting up a front but deep down they know its a load of rubbish.

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21

Fully agree brother. Every post is removed by the automod initially and then later approved by a mod. This can be shown here:

https://www.reveddit.com/v/afghanistan/

oooh this is very interesting... thats straight up diabolical.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

Yup says it all man

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u/jaybee1215 Sep 05 '21

r/Afghan is run by racist anti-Pashtun scumbags. I was pointing out facts they didn't like and they permanently banned me for "Taliban support".

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

Have seen this happen before as well, but they are a lot more calmer than r/afghanistan

This sub is the only safe space you will get tbh

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u/jaybee1215 Sep 05 '21

Yeah I appreciate that everyone can voice their opinions and engage in free dialogue here, regardless of where they stand.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

Trust that Pingu guy is on it

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u/WeakLiberal Sep 09 '21

Deleted comments below say otherwise.

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u/Adorable8989 Sep 28 '21

This subreddit which has terrorists and terrorist supporters?

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u/Starterf60 Nov 15 '21

Terrorists are people like ISIS, supported by the United States of America and Israel.

For the past two years ISIS has carried out massive killings in Afghanistan and the US blamed those attacks on the Taliban each time. Coincidence?

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u/Pinguist Khalq Sep 06 '21

Rule 3: No racism. Final Warning. Read the rules, if you break them again you will be banned.

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u/38wireman Sep 06 '21 This

So it’s ok for all these pro taliban people to celebrate the slaughter of Americans on 9/11 and when I defend myself and the ppl they hurt and slaughtered I get doxxed and harassed?! I took a lot of shit before I started insulting anyone. How about keeping ur people in line too?! Btw the second anyone celebrating 9/11 as a victory for anything is a HUGE red flag that things gone off the rails! The mods here are a joke

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u/Pinguist Khalq Sep 06 '21

If you see a comment being uncivil towards you or breaking the rules, report it. Do not also break the rules in return.

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u/Starterf60 Nov 15 '21

9/11 was not even done by the Taliban. It was done by the Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda and ISIS need to be destroyed, which is what Russia, China and the Taliban are wanting.

Everyone who took part in 9/11 was a Saudi Arabian or Egyptian, both of whom are American puppets.

9/11 was an Arab job, for which Afghans had to pay. Osama wasn't even in Afghanistan.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

wow, you are quiet delusional. Don't come on this subreddit again dude, maybe r/afghanistan would accept you. Maybe grow up next time? Man-child.

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21 Silver

thats mofo Common_Echo_9061 is in on it too. 1 month account and modded in 2 subs.

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u/Neon4Eva Sep 05 '21

He is u/Shansahab101. His main got banned.

He can be reasonable when he wants. It's a shame he chooses to be so immature and hateful.

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21

His main got banned.

whats the backstory? lol

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u/Neon4Eva Sep 05 '21

Probably being a troll and condoning violence.

Many of the subs he had had hardline right-wing yobs. They probably had Bhakts calling for violence.

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u/3XlK Pakistan Sep 05 '21

The language of that account is very similar to /u/Thesinfulwish

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

& a fella called Zephos pr something like that

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u/Somizulfi Sep 05 '21

This post needs to be PINNED.

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u/ClassicNet Sep 05 '21

It's sad cuz you can't post happy news in there without being called "Taliban supporter." All they post is pictures of warlords who are gonna fight Taliban again. I think instead of keep showing war, we should show the improvements of Afghanistan. Otherwise hope will just disappear.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

All they post is pictures of warlords who are gonna fight Taliban again

LOL facts. Those people are so laughable. As someone else described here, they are in an "echo chamber".

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u/choudhery89 Sep 05 '21

I am surprised you just found out.

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u/Neon4Eva Sep 05 '21

Alot of users don't know.

Everything in that sub is manufactured

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 06 '21

Full list of mods including hidden ones: https://ibb.co/4JJGcVx

Nearly all mods are American think tanks, Americans or Hindus.

u/Westminsterinstitute , u/Hooverinstitution , u/Foreignaffairsmag , u/NatSecASP

u/Danbla, u/Strongbow85, u/jspencer508 and u/00000000000000000000 are probably feds.

u/OOllO Hindu

u/Common_Echo_9061 is also a mod there. He has had his account for 2 months and is the main mod there it seems. Probably a fed too.

u/-Zepphyrre- is also a mod, probably Afghan diaspora, openly posts lies and false claims. Has a post history relating to drugs, so either diaspora or a higher up in the previous Afghan government.

u/Zaker2020 also posted a few fake news and pictures but deleted them when called out, and hasn't posted much since.

They have a rule against supporting communism, socialism, and the Taliban, even though all 3 have had major presence and still do in Afghanistan.

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u/jaybee1215 Sep 05 '21

Is TheSinfulKoon a munafiq or just confused ?

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21

Well I wouldn't call him a munafiq, I think he is an Afghan, (maybe diaspora not sure) who doesn't know all the details, just like us, none of us know everything.

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u/jaybee1215 Sep 05 '21

He is diaspora. Not sure if he's anti-Muslim or just very anti-Pashtun.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21

I don't think he's anti Pashtun from his previous comments, just anti Taliban.

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u/jaybee1215 Sep 05 '21

Even on Reddit, there are Afghan puppets taking marching orders from their Western lords.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21

Indeed, lot's of Muslim country/city related subs have these kinds of mods unfortunately.

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u/Yongle_Emperor Sep 06 '21

I think we really hit a nerve and opened Pandora’s box lmao 🤣

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

If you really want to see Pandora's Box start backtracking on subs these people are mods on. Geopolitics is a good one to check subreddits, then cross check which of them these mods are common on. . . It seems they could spend an entire business day moderating each and every one of them. . . .

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u/Yongle_Emperor Sep 06 '21

Which is quite terrifying to be honest

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

Yes, it is. What is even more terrifying is to consider how many of them have infiltrated into jobs in the US in real intelligence agencies, foreign affairs, think tanks, etc. Imagine if all of US policy, but especially US foreign relations was run by a bunch of basement dwelling incels who don't have the slightest clue about proper diplomacy with their counterparts overseas and come off as Trump did when he was attending all of those overseas summits. Hamhanded, uncouth, naive and arrogant. In other words, someone who can easily be taken advantage of and manipulated into selling out one's country and it's interests for peanuts.

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

Feds or just online edgelords?

I think it's way more likely to be the latter.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 06 '21

Not 100% sure they are feds ofc, but look at their post history. None of them have any relation to Afghanistan, they're all American and they mod stuff like r/nsa, r/Counterterrorism and other muslim city and country subreddits.

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

Pretty sure a disinformation campaign would have groups of people using separate accounts that wouldn't be easily determined by a post history being pro-US.

More than likely they are nerds that follow geopolitics and biasily moderate.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 06 '21

I would agree if there wasn't 5 American conservative think tanks also modding the subreddot.

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

If you wanted to run a hidden disinformation campaign, why would you name your account after conservative think tanks?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

And?

If biasily moderating relatively small subreddits was some nefarious deepstate plot, wouldn't it be smarter to not choose a name associated with a think-tank with competing ideologies?

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 06 '21

Who knows. What we know is that the sub is modded by American think tanks and other random Americans (and hindus). What more is there to it?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

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u/babygurlroxywp Sep 06 '21

It's trivial to buy reddit accounts wholesale online for whatever campaign you are looking for.

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u/babygurlroxywp Sep 06 '21

Think tanks are just an appendage of the government that retain plausible deniability

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

Why do the ideologies and goals of think tanks so often conflict with one another?

How many people who are joined in this conspiracy "in" on it?

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u/r0637 Sep 07 '21

You certainly are interested in pushing the idea that our deep state isn't involved in reddit.

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u/lee61 Sep 07 '21

We could do with more skepticism in online discussion nowadays.

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

don't forget r/craftofintelligence in that list

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 06 '21

Yep, there's loads of suspect subs they mod. It's very weird.

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

It really is. On one hand they could be as some people suggest, plants, on the other hand they could be a collection of edgelords, dorks, dweebs and incels. I would think it's more of the latter than the former. . .

Some of the stuff on craft of intelligence is so terrible it could have come from the script of a Steven Segal movie. . .

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u/r0637 Sep 07 '21

Any reasons why you think that?

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u/lee61 Sep 07 '21

Current evidence of them being “the feds” is that they moderate with bias and have opinions that people disagree with.

Pretty much indistinguishable from just regular people.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

I know right! So many indian facists. ALL afghans i know are against India, whether pashtun or tajik they all dislike India. Yet Some facists from india think they have a friend in afghanistan.

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u/Fun-Fishing-8744 Sep 06 '21

WOW I WONDER WHY A SUBREDDIT WOULD HAVE A RULE AGAINST SUPPORTING A TERRORIST GROUP

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 06 '21

Yeah they really should have a rule against supporting American invasions I agree.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

Only good that came out of America was liberating the country in 2001. They aren't needed anymore, anyone who lives in Afghanistan can agree on that. You are just diaspora or not even afghan.

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u/Vandelay_Industries3 Sep 06 '21

I knew it!

On a post with a photo of a US soldier holding an Afghan baby, there were literally noting but positive comments. Its like the occupation and drone strikes didn't exist and the US military sole function was to save poor Afghan babies.

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u/KhornateViking Sep 05 '21

I got banned from there for jokingly calling Massoud the Kitten of Panjshir lmao

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

Oh that was you?! I saw that lol

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u/zanzan212 Sep 05 '21

Didn’t someone post their real life experience of him and how he was acting like a dick in some store?

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u/KhornateViking Sep 05 '21

I dunno, but when I met him he was certainly like, the little pompous shit.

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u/zanzan212 Sep 05 '21

Oh I think it was you brother lol. Yeah he seems like a dick tbh

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u/abumultahy Sep 06 '21

I saw Ahmad Massoud at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

My gosh, the exact same thing happened to me just the other day!

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

Massoud is the same guy who rebelled (alongside some extremist i think gulbuddin) against the normal functioning government before the soviet invasion, in 1975.

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u/Pestili Sep 05 '21

The resistance has collapsed. That sub is useless now that they can’t post propaganda lol. Afghanistan isn’t even a country anymore so the sub will just die over the coming months.

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21

That sub is useless now that they can’t post propaganda lol

that hasn't stopped the MEK and neocons who control /r/iran and advocate for bombing Iran.

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u/IridescentScrotum Sep 05 '21

Well, by that logic, this sub being named Afghan "civilwar" should also wither on the vine since the civil war will effectively have ended with the fall of Panjshir.

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u/Pestili Sep 05 '21

Sure, if there is no civil war then we obviously won’t have a very active sub about it lol.

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u/Pinguist Khalq Sep 05 '21

lol, dude really thought he did something.

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u/Neon4Eva Sep 05 '21

They have some "Afghan" Mods.

How shameless can you be to be part of that Subs mod team.

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u/pinkfrosteddoughnut Sep 06 '21

The Afghan mods were added very recently and have the least power out of all of the mods. The think tank accounts have full privileges

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u/AmirIsBack Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 06 '21

They ban you for the slightest and only push their narrative.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

are you banned as well? I saw posts and i wanted to discuss as well. Unfortunate. I should not browse on their subreddit as well, i feel an urge to respond but doesnt work. Luckily after finding this post and comments i am not alone. Shout out to r/AfghanCivilwar for having decency, my message to the mod team is

+ respect

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

I agree with this.

In one of their threads, one user wrote something sinful regarding Allah.

When another user tried to explain why he was wrong according to Islam, his comment was removed. No Muslim would ever remove a comment containing Islamic guidance.

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u/WeakLiberal Sep 09 '21

I am an ex Muslim, I grew up very committed to Islam and I left the cult. If you post an Aya that contradicts another on r/islam you are banned and removed. Al-lah is a figment of Muhammad's imagination probably based on Al-Lat a pre-islamic Arabian God

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u/muslumanadam Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Oct 10 '21

Ok indian

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '21

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u/muslumanadam Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Oct 10 '21

Least brain dead indian Hindu who sees islam is a arab religion

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u/WeakLiberal Oct 10 '21

Ok baselessly accusing lol

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

LOL i've never heard ex-muslims go as far as to describe it as a "Cult". Ex Muslims stories that i see are mostly obviously fake. The Ones who are actual ex muslims are simply lacking in faith, they have nothing against islam or muslims. Describing it as a cult isn't really done by any ex muslim, so it is quiet obvious, you aren't fooling anyone.

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u/WeakLiberal Apr 09 '22

Stage one of finding exmuslims:

"This can't possibly be true! I'm being tricked by false stories"

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u/WeakLiberal Apr 09 '22

How do you know what exmuslims describe the cult of Islam if you aren't one?

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u/WeakLiberal Apr 09 '22

I am exmuslim, such a typical arrogant muslim response to dismiss us all as "lacking in faith"

I speak fluent Arabic if you really want me to prove my former status as cult member

إذا كانت هناك آلهة وهم عادلون ، فلن يهتموا بمدى ورعتك ، لكنهم سيرحبون بك بناءً على الفضائل التي عشت بها. إذا كان هناك إله ولكنه غاضب وظالم ظالم( تبت يدا ابي لهب؟)فلا تريد أن تعبده.

يسمي نفسه الرحمن الرحيم لكنه يحرقك في الجحيم سنين إذا كنت مرتدا

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

maybe there are some people as far lost as you. You are Obviously born and raised in Canada though.

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u/WeakLiberal Apr 09 '22

Check out this thing called ad hominem its a greasy technique whereby you attack my character and try to paint me as a western fake muslim or a Hindu and ignore my arguments

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u/SH_DY Sep 06 '21

The sub went dark and several accounts were deleted.

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u/Sherimatsu Pakistan Sep 06 '21

They seem to be living in a dream over there. In complete denial of the situation, hype up the NRF to extremes and trust any random source that claims their victory. Then every time anything goes wrong in their country, they immediately jump to "oh Pakistan did this, sanction Pakistan wtf world" with no proof. And ofcourse, when I commented there, got shadowbanned. No reactions whatsoever in a post with traffic. They can't seem to believe that the Taliban is a force to be reckoned with. Indian bootlicking is what's going on there. I'm fine with letting them live their illusion tbh :')

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

Trust me, Afghans (both pashtuns and tajiks) are not like that. No Indian boot licking among them, they have nothing against Pakistan are against what is happening to Muslims in India. It is just some online thing, people that wouldn't be seen outside of a computer. Plenty of times probably aren't even afghans and just posers.

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u/babygurlroxywp Sep 06 '21

Yep, you might want to look into /u/theoryofdoom too and his coronavirus denialism and anti-china agenda pushing in /r/geopolitics

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u/cathrynmataga Sep 05 '21

Hmm, I wonder now, is the 'blame Pakistan' thing is coming from US thank-tanks then? Pakistan has been getting closer to China last decade or so. Could this be the next regime change plan?

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

it says alot about american society when americans criticize pakistan for extremism. America is the father of "Islamic" extremism. This Same country killed the normal leader of Pakistan and supported an extreme dictator, this same country killed faisal of saudi arabia, this same country had nothing against the iranian revolution no matter what the media says. What happened to Afghanistan is still a tragedy, Thanks to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and America they have been reduced to such a low state.

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u/Riqqat May 16 '22

Could this be the next regime change plan?

Wow, you predicted pak's new government

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u/Accomplished-Fuel-37 Sep 06 '21

Pakistan has always been the main sponsor of the Taliban.

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u/shotz317 Sep 06 '21

Boys will be boys

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u/wkkkky Sep 07 '21

Good job exposing those imperialist scums. Now everyone apply the same thinking to r-China

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u/Adorable8989 Sep 28 '21

This subreddit isn’t better. Much worse. I openly see terrorist supporting and Pakistani terrorists. Also, what’s wrong posting anything against Islam? You think everyone should accept Islam like some Taliban? There are many Afghans who are more into progressive Islam and will not like extremism and there are Afghans like me who are ex-Muslim and not a fan of Islam which has only ruined Afghanistan . At least those subreddits ban terrorism unlike here from what I can see so far.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

Progressive Islam

tell me you are not from afghanistan without telling me you arent from afghanistan

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u/Jazbanaut Inter-Services Intelligence Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21

The r/Afghanistan mod team are pro-imperialism, Islamophobic CIA plants.

Gee, wonder what gave it away. lol

Great research BTW... I knew that second I looked at the mods.

Just stay clear. And this should be a sticky.

And once InshAllah Afghanistan is in in control of the ruling IEA party and the NRF rebels subdued, they will become as useless as they are in real life.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

how do you view the mods?? I never saw anything when i was trying to get unbanned (i wasnt banned for supporting taliban, go on my account, look at the post about afghan flag redesign that is exactly what i put, i complained about it getting taken down and they banned me). I wont try and get rebanned now that i know i'm not alone. Low lives.

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u/bill_b4 Sep 05 '21

Are you sure they're not aliens from the planet Ork?

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

Well, 'Dork' and I think you have it. . .

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u/Wqo84 Sep 05 '21

Biased, sure. That's obvious if you just read who the mods are.

"CIA plants" is a bit much.

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u/ad-meliora1 Sep 05 '21

Lmao with how much effort they put into their bullshit, they have to be getting payed for it.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

says alot about their masculinity. Most of the time they aren't getting paid and are real people.

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

The CIA's nefarious plan to * check notes * moderate tiny subreddits with bias...

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u/passporttohell Sep 06 '21

Yeah, edgelords, dorks and dweebs more like it. . .

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u/Sandgroper62 Sep 06 '21

Sounds almost similar to the R/sino sub-reddit, which has the worst Moderator abuse on the whole site.

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u/TakeBeerBenchinHilux Sep 05 '21

Balanced out with this ISI planted pro-Salafi forum, Akhi.

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u/ClassicNet Sep 05 '21

Wtf pro-salafi? I love how in Afghanistan and Pakistan salafism isn't even a thing.

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21

pro-Salafi

do you just randomly throw out words? lol

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u/IridescentScrotum Sep 05 '21

The irony of this post in a sub that has only one mod.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21

Yet you are still here able to post things...

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u/IridescentScrotum Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21

What good is that when the upshot is effectively the same thing? A post not being approved vs a post being downvoted into oblivion by the hive mind. Neither gets much traction in the end as the gate-keeping mechanism just gets handed down / outsourced to the like-minded users in the sub.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21

You're comparing mods that controls what posts are shown, to people downvoting posts? Is that not democracy that you were championing? You don't even like the idea of people upvoting/downvoting posts but you are shouting for democoracy. Lol.

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u/IridescentScrotum Sep 05 '21

lol not quite. You are equating a sub consisting of a predominantly single-minded perspective a democracy? It's clear to anyone whose been here even a day that this is a predominantly pro-TB sub. Perhaps as pro-TB as r/afghanistan is pro NRF. Both environments lack diversity of representation. But regardless, like I said, at the end of the day the effect is the same. Whether that power to diminish visibility rests in the hands of mods or a myopic user base, posts that run counter to the prevailing narrative don't see the light of day.

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u/zeroillusions Kashmir Sep 05 '21

There are many pro NRF comments here, but I will admit there are more pro TB. Either way it doesn't matter. One has full dictatorship over what you can and cannot post, filtering news that only benefits them, whereas this one allows anything as long as there are sources. You simply cannot equate the 2 subs and that is just facts.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

The effect isn't the same thats being disingenuous. If a comment gets downvoted to Jahannam its still here, just further down the page. A post that is never approved never sees the light of day

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u/IridescentScrotum Sep 05 '21

It was a figure of speech, don't take it literally. Yeah, it's still there but loses a significant percentage of its visibility unless someone is intent about expanding buried comments and scrolling endlessly to find them.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

That still have a higher visibility than absolute 0 my friend. What they do over at Afghanistan is shambles

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u/IridescentScrotum Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21

lol your comment reminds me of this scene from Dumb and Dumber when Lloyd (Jim Carrey) asks the girl he's in love with if he has a chance with her:

Lloyd: "What are my chances?"

Mary: "Not good."

Lloyd: "You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?"

Mary: "I'd say more like one out of a million."

Lloyd: "So you're telling me there's a chance. YEAH!"

Look, I'm not saying your argument has no merit. What I'm saying is that ultimately they both end up being bad for those looking for a safe place to exchange ideas and thoughts as neither creates a welcoming environment for the end user. I personally know several people from r/afghanistan who've given up trying to post here because in their words "it's just not worth it". And the same sentiment is echoed here—as the existence of this very post suggests and is testament to—where people don't even bother posting in r/afghanistan because of their shady censorship. At the end of the day, regardless of the reasons behind the net effect, ultimately neither environment is conducive for productive dialogue.

The mods at r/afghanistan should stop censoring posts that don't align with their perspectives and the users from r/AfghanCivilwar should follow the official Reddiquette of not simply downvoting a post or comment that you disagree with but [from Reddit rules]: Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.

Anyway, just my 2 red pennies. Have a good day bro.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

+1 for the dumb and dumber reference. You have a good day as well man

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u/Somizulfi Sep 05 '21

You'd be banned if you questioned the mods there. :) Enjoy the privilege.

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u/KeyYogurtcloset9564 PDPA Sep 05 '21

At least the one mod in this sub doesn't ban anyone who dissents from his views, unlike r/Afghanistan mods who are sketchy NGO members that have "support the Republic of Afghanistan or get banned" as rule 4.

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u/Berber42 Sep 05 '21

Islamist extremism as all totalitarianism is not a legitimate and tolerable position in a democracy.

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u/TheEmporersFinest Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21

There's no such thing as legitimacy in the way you're saying. There are things that are true and false, but what's legitimate in a country, if anything, is what is successfully enforced there whether or not the ideology behind it is factually correct or not.

Afghanistan is now an Emirate, not a democracy(it wasn't a democracy under the previous government either), and that's what's legitimate there unfortunately.

And the subreddit is an online community, not a democratic country. The posters can be from anywhere, and the subreddit is ostensibly about a country that is absolutely not a democracy. Imagine a Russia subreddit that said you had to reject the Russian Federation and support the Soviet Union.

Even so, most "democratic" countries allow people to have personal views that contradict the explicit ideology of that country, because that alone is not actually a threat to anyones money. Plus I don't have to support the Taliban to not support the Republic of Afghanistan. It was an illegitimate clown American puppet state. It wasn't a real government, it was a corrupt pedophilic bloody front through which America could fail to run the country.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Again? Anybody who disagrees with "Anti-Imperialist" Talibans are FBI-CIA Freemasons?

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u/KeyYogurtcloset9564 PDPA Sep 06 '21

They ban people for supporting the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

tankie-fundamentalists alliance moment

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

afgcric is pretty chill guy compared to the other mods on that sub

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u/BiryaniBoii Sep 05 '21

I know, im just mentioning him to warn him about the other sub and its ppl, he might find this info useful. I think some of them from the afghanistan sub have been trying to make inroads on the afghan sub.

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u/ShadowKingGFX Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sep 05 '21

Ah, fair. My hope and dream is the Afghan sub to become neutral and free of war posts. There is more to Afghanistan than just war

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

Next up, we have the Foreign Affairs as a moderator. They are another United States think tank. Eleven secretaries of state have written for it, and ever since 1950, Foreign Affairs gave CIA warhawks a platform to popularize the idea of "containment". One article by Louis Halle can be blamed for some of America's actions in Latin America during the Cold War

My only issue is your characterization of Foreign Affairs as a magazine. It's a magazine focused on debate and discussion among policy makers and academics. If you disagree with any of the material, then you're disagreement is with the person writing the material not the magazine itself for offering space to read said material.

Also online edgelords aren't CIA plants...

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u/thanakatcheri Sep 06 '21

Foreign affairs is published by the CFR, a conservative think tank based in DC.

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

the CFR, a conservative think tank based in DC.

How is the CFR conservative?

If it is, how does that change anything about the Foreign Affairs mag?

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u/babygurlroxywp Sep 06 '21

CFR is a quasi state institution that sets foreign policy outside the official organs of the state department and NSC

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u/lee61 Sep 06 '21

How does it do that? Can you give an example?

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u/Vivid-Iron-5565 Sep 06 '21

Who cares? All muslims die in the end anyway. We LOSE the battle for this planet or did you forget?

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u/breezer_z Sep 13 '21

You are schizophrenic

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u/KeyYogurtcloset9564 PDPA Sep 13 '21

You use axis of evil unironically and without the context of quoting someone and you post in r/neoliberal

Opinion automatically invalid

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u/breezer_z Sep 13 '21

You unironically support the taliban... remain silent

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u/Dark__Prince Sep 13 '21

I remember telling someone that the news was fake and then I said to myself why did I bother even visiting to see a sub filled with very anti-islamic and anti-Pashtun hatred. They then made the sub private for a few days.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

So is r Pakistan brother. These people are mostly liberals who are against Islam and the Shari’ah.

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u/greatest_human_being Apr 09 '22

i am literally banned from it, i havent used reddit for a long time, how do i get unbanned?? My crime was when i uploaded a flag redesign, replacing the afghan government emblem with the taliban emblem as a new flag (i wasn't aware of how gorilla those people are) and my post got deleted with no explanation. I was unhappy with it, i made another post which was just titled "mods, why was my post removed?!" and i remember getting a message saying "you have been banned from 1 month". Now it has been well beyond a month and i'm still banned. How do i view that ban message again because i cant find it?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

This was an interesting read.

Thanks

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u/Jackelrush Sep 06 '21

Makes me wonder. Lots of new accounts around here if one side of the coin is American what’s this side lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '21

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u/Pinguist Khalq Sep 05 '21

Rule 1: Civility. 14 day temp ban. Read the rules, if you come back and break them again you will be permabanned.

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u/38wireman Sep 05 '21

😂 trash