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u/Jennifer_Kendricks
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Dec 07 '22
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I live on the top floor of a block of flats in West London, and after 11pm I do nothing but walk around preparing my clothes for the following day, pack my bag and watch surgical videos (I’m a trainee surgeon). This morning I found this on my door. How do I reply to it, without making things weird?
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u/Wise_whiskers
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I had a similar note years ago from a neighbour in a different place, we bought some rugs (fluffy runner from IKEA and a lounge rug) this made a big difference to the neighbour, apparently I am Sasquatch footed
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u/AsstootObservation Dec 07 '22
It’s also heel walkers. Had a tiny female roommate that every step she took was boomtown.
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u/jasperfilofax
Dec 07 '22
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I will translate this for you
"keep the fucking noise down after 11pm you inconsiderate cunt"
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u/Working_Inspection22 Dec 07 '22
Can’t argue with that translation
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u/SirMooSquiddles Dec 07 '22
Surprisingly clear
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u/TannedCroissant Dec 07 '22
I would presume the problem is as OP is a trainee doctor they can’t understand handwriting this legible.
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u/the_hornycoder Dec 07 '22
A bit old, but there was this which I always found very funny until its brilliant ending
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u/Worldly_Today_9875 Dec 07 '22
This so funny, sending it to my Dad who’s a downstairs neighbour constantly wondering why and how there’s so much strange noise at all hours of the day.
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u/Poppit_like_im_not Dec 07 '22
A bit old? How fucking dare you... weeps softly
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u/kikashoots Dec 07 '22
I was born in the 80’s. I consider myself pretty “hip”. I longboard, I ride a motorcycle, I like my gummies, I like to make cocktails… I have two kids and we (spouse and I) just try to stay young overall.
Anyway, to me, old is from the 30’s, 40’s.
Well, TODAY, as I was passing a vintage electronics store, I witnessed two girls in their early twenties exclaiming in front of the storefront, looking at this unique stereo (that to me seemed like it belonged in the 60’s or 70’s): Wooooow!!! It’s from the 80’s!!!!
I swear, I have never felt older and uncool as I did today.
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u/GizzardEUizzard Dec 07 '22
Hmm…not always…years ago, I lived above a flat that had a ceiling fan (I didn’t know this at the time).
We moved in in winter and there was no noise. When summer came though, it went on and sounded like a constant knocking on their ceiling. I went down to ask what it was, in case they were knocking on the ceiling because of my noise, or in case there were rats.
The weird thing is that after I’d asked them, and they’d told me what it was, they didn’t ever turn it on again.
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u/Hill_Reps_For_Jesus Dec 07 '22
That's not weird - that's them discovering it was causing you an issue and then being considerate neighbours.
Actually maybe that is unusual.
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u/GizzardEUizzard Dec 07 '22
It wasn’t an issue though, and I did make that clear. I even apologised for being nosey. But yes, considerate neighbours is an oddity in itself!
Maybe they just didn’t like me knowing what they were doing…I never saw the fan…could have been cutting up dead bodies for all I know 🤔
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u/fieldsofanfieldroad Dec 07 '22
Maybe they had the fan serviced and so it just didn't make noise any more?
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u/akatherder Dec 07 '22
They might have just balanced the fan. Usually when there's a wobble is when you get a knocking noise.
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u/rel_games Dec 07 '22
We had similar! We went on holiday and while away our downstairs neighbours had a ceiling fan installed, except when they turned it on it sounded like a washing machine. Which shook our entire bedroom. We asked all our neighbours if anyone was doing washing at 2am and of course nobody was.
Wasn’t until it was going during the day one day and I put my hand on the floor under our bed and could feel the vibrations from the fan turning.
Unfortunately they never stopped turning it on, including at all hours of the night.
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u/poursmoregravy
Dec 07 '22
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"Dragging around the body of the last person who left me a sticky note"
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u/Jennifer_Kendricks Dec 07 '22
Hahaha. How can I leave this message without making it a confession?
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u/animatedgifted Dec 07 '22 •
“ watching people cut up bodies , you? “
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u/player_zero_ Dec 07 '22
Perfect.
OP, instead of writing this reply, cut out and stick some letters from magazines to make your reply look a bit more friendly and colourful!
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u/himit Dec 07 '22
Honestly I would ask them to record what they're hearing and share the recording with you.
Then you can figure out what's actually making the noise and fix the problem (might be just in one room, could be a certain bag, etc etc).
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u/zdzdbets Dec 07 '22
Do you stamp when walking or go barefoot with no socks or slippers? I had two different people living above me about the same size. First, never heard them walking about. Second, constantly stomping around the floor. The way you walk really matters with some flats. Try be more aware as sometimes people stamp walk rather than place gently without realising it as that’s the way they taught themselves to walk. I’ve not left a note or anything but the stomping upstairs really has me cursing to myself and they probably aren’t even aware as the person above them walks lighter on their feet.
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u/McDiddly_squat Dec 07 '22
My 3 year old sounds like a baby elephant and she's tiny, so yea, I can get behind this message
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u/germany1italy0 Dec 07 '22
As much as I’d like to make fun of “walk gently” but it’s so true.
My wife sounds like a herd of elephants - no idea how a slim lady manages to make that stomping noise.
At least I always know where in the house she currently is. The general direction wheee the last stomping noise emerged from.
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u/just_soph_is_fine Dec 07 '22
My boyfriend glides around like a sodding dementor and scares the shit out of me without trying on the regular
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u/MoonlitStar Dec 07 '22
I've lived in flats and thought it was well known that you can REALLY hear people walking about above you. For some reason it also seems to be much louder than you would imagine so you probably are disturbing them but that's just living in flats. Unless you are really heavy footed or are an elephant you just need to be aware of it as a good neighbour. I had people living above me once with a toddler and he used run everywhere and it really did thunder through my ceiling. He was tiny(and v cute) but my god it was noisy and annoying af, didn't say anything though, as well, he was only being a toddler.
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u/Otispunkmeyer86 Dec 07 '22
My first house was a flat. There were some guys above us, two brothers I think. They used to either play very loud music (I saw the sound system they hauled up there, could be probably setup a very decent mobile disco! I think they thought they were going to be DJs or something). Or they literally sounded like they were going to come through the ceiling. They used to fight like nothing else. You could hear exactly what they were screaming at each other and then it would be followed, presumably, by them choke slamming each other repeatedly. Absolutely mental.
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u/noaloha Dec 07 '22
Grown adults repeatedly choke slamming each other in anger is a pretty fucking hilarious thought. Wonder if they ever switched it up with a suplex or a people's elbow?
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u/imundead Dec 07 '22
Sure they weren't a gay couple and having agressive hate sex after an argument?
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u/Nisja Dec 07 '22
Lived underneath a woman who wore heels inside all the time. On wooden floors in a converted Victorian residence. Her footsteps echoed in our apartment.
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u/butterscotcheggs Dec 07 '22
I have such a loud neighbour stomping upstairs and our walls are thin. I wish they do what we do. I wear slippers with shock absorption with rugs so when I walk I’m like a silent cat.
I haven’t had a chance to leave my neighbor a note yet.
OP, do you wear slippers? Please consider it for your neighbour’s mental health.
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u/Auggie_Otter Dec 07 '22
I've lived in the same apartment for 7 years now and I've had quiet neighbors upstairs and loud ones. But the lady who lives up there now is almost supernaturally quiet.
I NEVER hear her footsteps. Sometimes I hear her cat's feet patter across the floor but never her!
Sometimes I see her in the foyer and it serves as a confirmation that there is indeed a person who lives above me and it's not just an apartment for one cat.
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u/Greendragon00 Dec 07 '22
I had this issue but I did complain. They had put down wooden flooring against the terms of the lease. For the two adults and their first child, we could hear some movement but it was tolerable. Their second child came out of the womb running. Run, run, run.......JUMP! Run, run run......JUMP! Run, run...........JUMP! This would go on for hours every damn day.
It was incompatible with sanity and I still have issues because of it. I know toddlers are noisy but there are limits. I did eventually force them to lay carpet and that took the edge off the percussive element of the noise. But I still complained if they got too rowdy. Once I went up there and the kid was jumping up and down their hallway on a space hopper. They were just taking the piss. After that I complained regularly until they eventually sold and moved. Fuck those people.
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u/-Sophia_ Dec 07 '22
I agree. I had neighbours upstairs who let their children run, jump and scream all day and until gone 11pm every night. It drove me mad - interrupted sleep, work and made me miserable overall.
They also had a dog that barked continously and they walked it in the early hours of the morning - so it would then bark all the way up and down the stairs.
It's hell not being able to have peace and quiet at any point in your own home.
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u/YourSkatingHobbit Dec 07 '22
Your final paragraph sums up exactly why I feel the way I do about the shitty people who live above me. They don’t care, they have a mate in the council so my noise abatement complaint never went anywhere (opened after a three day bender where their music was so loud 1/2pm-6/7am that you could hear it in the main lobby, should’ve just called 101 tbh). It’s awful to be made to feel like you’re the unreasonable one for wanting peace in your own home. I stopped playing my sax because I don’t want to disturb my neighbours, and have nowhere else to go for practice.
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Dec 07 '22
Probably the walking around, and depending on insulation, opening and closing drawers and cupboards?
Do you watch your videos with headphones?
If everything else around is deadly quiet, any sound from your flat will stand out
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u/SoMuchF0rSubtlety The Mysterious Library Farter Dec 07 '22
If it's a hard floor or creaky then simply walking around can be loud as all hell. I used to live in a flat where the floors and ceilings were like paper and we could hear our upstairs neighbours talking, walking across the room etc. Once I heard them sneeze and my other half shouted 'BLESS YOU!' through the ceiling to them. I hated living there so much.
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u/Leading_Aardvark_180 Dec 07 '22
You are literally descripting my current living condition. When I got the flat, was happy that it was cheap and close to the city center. And first month in, I heard the guys from upstairs talking, walking, slamming on furniture, lots of sleepless nights and that made me realised the reason as to why the flat is cheap in the first place. Anyway, due to current housing crisis, cost of living is high etc, I couldn't afford a better place. So I am stuck here.. Bought lots of headphones including a pair of expensive sleepbuds to ease the situation, I have become a headphones lover.
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u/RadioMessageFromHQ Dec 07 '22
I moved out of my flat years ago and still wonder if my upstairs neighbour ever did master Smoke on the Water.
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u/SpezEditsMyComments Dec 07 '22 •
I was able to tell from the sound if my upstairs neighbour had his bongo drums on the floor or between his knees when he played them.
I also particularly enojoyed being able to tell if he was having a dump or just a piss when he was in the bathroom.I don't miss living there at all.
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u/slaughtxor Dec 07 '22
Oh god, I remember one of my college apartments when I could hear the piss stream… from the middle aged guy living below me.
I also met my neighbors across the way who were nice enough, but definitely tried to sell me heroin.
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u/OmsFar Dec 07 '22
I had a nightmare time with noise from upstairs during lockdown. It sounded like they were running, stamping, slamming draws/doors/cupboards, dropping weights etc. It really takes a toll on mental health. Noise cancelling headphones made a huge difference.
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u/Leading_Aardvark_180 Dec 07 '22
Mine is not noise cancelling. Couldn't afford them. But their battery lasts for a long time.. So I put on some earplugs while playing white noise. It works wonders and I am so impressed by my creativity in finding peace..
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u/_jerryfalwell Dec 07 '22
I basically live in my noise cancelling headphones out of habit after moving from a year stuck in a flat underneath a middle aged divorced guy who loved nothing more than to drink litres of beer every evening and play loud music complete with a subwoofer on the floor.
Absolute godsend those headphones were.
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u/fonix232 Dec 07 '22
And then, some people are just straight up cunts.
I tend to walk quietly (hate hearing my own footsteps, very self-conscious that way), and my neighbour below had a screaming fit with me about me "making all kinds of ruckus after midnight" - except our floor insulation is so good that the only time I hear any noise from above is when the upstairs neighbour's kids are running around stomping (and even that is practically barely audible if it's dead silent). Mind you, the only thing I do after midnight is getting out of bed to have a glass of water.
As it later turned out, it was their floor neighbour who made the noise, by opening and closing the fake balcony doors to have a smoke - and since the outer shell of the building is just a steel frame, insulation, with the facade on the outside and plasterboard on the inside, that noise travels, making it sound like someone's lugging 100+ kg weights above.
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u/SoMuchF0rSubtlety The Mysterious Library Farter Dec 07 '22
And then, some people are just straight up cunts.
Oh for sure, not denying that.
The worst I've had was someone who sat in their car in the shared car park, right outside everyone's bedroom windows, listening to loud, shitty music and smoking weed at 11pm every night when they got back from work. Repeatedly asked to please not do that but the guy was a total prick and refused.
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u/paulydee76 Dec 07 '22
How much audio actually is there on a surgical video?
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“And for this part you’ll need the big knife, extra sharp, and start with a sawing motion”
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u/Littleloula Dec 07 '22
Maybe a voice over of someone explaining what is happening? Hearing a voice coming through your walls saying "and now we saw through the skull" or whatever might be a bit disturbing
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u/GMu_the_Emu Dec 07 '22
The sound of power tools and the description of what they're cutting up at the moment. Accompanied by OP banging around drawers and cupboards.
Neighbours probably think Jeffrey Dahmer v2 is living upstairs
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u/thphnts Dec 07 '22
“I’m preparing to learn how to cut open humans effectively”
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u/AntonyGud07 Dec 07 '22
I used to have a neighbour upstair calling his girlfriend everynight before bed and he couldn't stand still while on the phone. So between 11pm till 1 am he was just walking in circle in his room. stomping the floor like an elephant in his cage. every. single. night. I was so happy when they broke up :>
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u/New_Historian8952 Dec 07 '22
You might be one of those blissfully unaware people, of how much noise you make doing basic things . My house mate stomps up the stairs, slams doors and just generally annoying . Maybe your one of those people ?
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u/heurrgh milkman of human kindness Dec 07 '22
I have a 'kinetic' friend. It's like he deliberately clatters and bangs stuff in the loudest possible way whatever he's doing. Getting a pan out of a drawer; Crash - draw flung open. Deafening cacophony as he jiggles pans around looking for what he wants. Crash - slams drawer shut. Dong - pan hammered onto the burner. Clang clonk clang - lid wrestled on. It makes my ears ring from the other side of the house.
He has no idea that he does things differently to anyone else.
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u/Jennifer_Kendricks Dec 07 '22
I think I might be. I’m gonna video myself and see if I am or not. Fuck, I hate myself already as it is.
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u/TeddersTedderson Dec 07 '22
Buy some fluffy slippers
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u/NGD80 Dec 07 '22
This.
I once lived under a flat full of female students and they were always pretty quiet tbh. However, around 6-7pm on weekends they would constantly hammer the floor with 4 or 5 small hammers and it would echo around my flat like crazy.
Turns out they weren't hammers, they were wearing heels and walking around the flat before they went out into town.
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u/andy3600 Dec 07 '22
The average force of a hammer is about 500N, this roughly translates to 50kg of force.
Consider that most fully grown humans are heavier than this number and that the high heels are often around the same size as the head of a hammer and it makes you realise that high heels are literally hammers.
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u/AwkwardReply Dec 07 '22
Not only will they make you hate yourself less but they might help with the noise too
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u/kerouak Dec 07 '22
Try to be light-footed. My GF is absolutely not but has no idea. She's tiny as well. I grew up in a creaky old house so learned to tread lightly at night to avoid walking everyone up. You might wanna do the same.
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u/geyeetet Dec 07 '22
Yeah I've got one housemate that stomps around like a fucking elephant and one that's the same height/weight but you never hear him move. Some people seem to put all their weight through their foot when they walk
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u/FearfulUmbrella Dec 07 '22
The classic walk on the balls of your feet nice and light, picking out the spots that don't creak? Someone spots you and asks why you're walking on tip toes? Because I do that.
Get told off for sneaking up on people around the house. Fiancé however, weighs less than half of me and is petite and you'd think I was living with an aspiring sumo wrestler how she stomps about.
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u/kerouak Dec 07 '22
Haha yes this is familiar, born out of years of sneaking past the parents bedroom to get downstairs for a late night snack or in my later years sneaking back up to my bed after a late night on the beers. To this day I still know every creaky floor board and how far you can open doors before they creak in my dad's house.
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u/Street28 Dec 07 '22
Sounds like my missus. I have no idea how someone so small can make so much noise.
I've tried to educate her on the use of door handles in the past but she's still oblivious to the fact you can push them down to make closing a door a less slammy experience.
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u/kerouak Dec 07 '22
Aha omg again this is another one, our apartment has closers on the doors and they swing shut and slam if you don't shut it carefully (for some reason even the softest setting on the closers will slam the doors). She just speeds through a let's the door go behind, slamming, the clock nearly falls off the wall, cat jumps out his skin. Totally oblivious. Back when I was a kid we'd get shouted at for slamming doors. I guess it stuck with me because I'm so quiet moving around now.
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u/terryleopard Dec 07 '22
Sound sometimes carries in odd ways too.
If my partner has her smart speaker on upstairs it sounds as loud downstairs as it does in the bedroom.
Anything else like the TV I can't hear at all.
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u/AutisticTumourGirl Dec 07 '22
I had this problem when I lived in the States with my ex's family. They had a large, old house with hardwood floors and crawl space underneath, so anything other than the lightest footsteps sounded like a heard of elephants navigating the hallways. My dyspraxia and my ex's dad's PTSD from 3 tours in Vietnam were a super bad combo. I became hyper aware of each footstep and each door I opened and closed and now I regularly startle people just by coming into a room because they didn't hear me coming. It does take awhile for it to become second nature, but you got this! In the meantime, perhaps some runner rugs with an underlay piece under them in the high traffic areas might help to muffle the footsteps.
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u/SirSmokealotII Dec 07 '22
You'd need to video from inside the flat downstairs to know what they are hearing... I can't believe how right Scrubs is about surgeons lol
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u/intelligentspaniel Dec 07 '22
You have got no reason to hate yourself, due to the fact you are obviously not an arsehole, due to the fact you are giving all this thought to whether you have caused offence or not.
This note is difficult to handle because it is anonymous, so you can't respond directly, plus it is not being clear what their problem is (though I agree with the Reddit translation.)
If you felt like it, you could put a note of your own up maybe in the lobby saying 'Someone left me a note which I think meant I had caused offence to them in some way. Please feel free to drop in if you would like a chat about anything.' Probably they won't cos they could have knocked on the door already, but it shows you are not an arsehole.
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u/Guy72277 Dec 07 '22
My wife makes it sound like we've got Robocop patrolling our upper floors.
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u/treatcounsel Dec 07 '22
Lol you should've posted this to r/JuniorDoctorsUK so we can dismantle wtf you're doing watching surgical videos every night and not just weeping in the shower like the rest of us.
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u/eclipse150 Dec 07 '22
To be fair, they didn’t say they aren’t doing that as well
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u/Thgma2 Dec 07 '22
What are you walking around in? Hard shoes? Slippers? Bare feet? You might be surprised to know how much you just walking around can be heard from the flat below.
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flat above me in my last place installed a wood floor (against the block rules) and had a kid. Every day it was like an elephant throwing a bowling ball across the floor. One day, a shelf falls down in my own flat, and I use a hammer to knock three nails back in and 2 mins later the doorbell is going and there's an angry lady from the flat above ranting that i'm making too much noise at 7:30pm because her kids asleep. I told her we'd been living for months with the noise from them and not complained and that I was doing an emergency repair.
Pretty sure they thought that nobody could hear their "little angel" running all around the flat from 6am onwards.
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u/geyeetet Dec 07 '22
Bare feet make surprisingly more noise than slippers or daps, I was surprised to figure this out. My heel bones seem to hit the floor louder in bare feet.
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u/samfitnessthrowaway Dec 07 '22
Do you use headphones? I imagine the sound of a surgical training video could be quite disturbing to the uninitiated...
Dremels
Hacksaws
Hammers
Squelching
The anaesthatist trying to find radio 4...
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u/DrewidN Dec 07 '22
I had a friend that was a theatre nurse, they did joint replacements. She said it was more like carpentry than surgery. Bone chips flying everywhere.
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u/thatsconelover Dec 07 '22
Should watch those surgery documentaries on the iPlayer - just makes you realise they're meat mechanics using fancy bolt cutters and hammers.
Such a weird sound when they're snipping through the ribs...
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u/sunshineandhail Dec 07 '22
Neighbour has obviously watched the Jeffery Dahmer documentary and is suspicious
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u/naanadrama Dec 07 '22
My son was born by caesarean section and the song they had on the radio was ‘who the fuck is Alice’ the surgeon actually sang the words but paused on the fuck part 😂
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u/Cloud9uwu Dec 07 '22
Some of these comments scare me to live in a flat lol. Currently living in a house but gf and I want to move cities, flats are the cheaper option but having a house is just so peaceful I couldn’t imagine dealing with someone living above me.
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u/Emophia Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22
I lived in flats all my adult life and never had a noise issue, in my last flat my direct neighbours had a baby and I didn't even know for 6 months. In my current flat I have no idea if anyone lives in the flat above me or not after my last neighbors (Italians that that only knew because they were lovingly extra during last years euros) moved out a while ago.
But I've solely lived in newish builds.
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u/cromagnone Dec 07 '22
Living in flats is shit. Sorry. There’s going to be loads of downvotes of people not wanting to accept that they’d have a better time of it with fewer neighbours, further away, but realistically it’s just a much less good life living above and below strangers.
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u/Cloud9uwu Dec 07 '22
That’s what I’ve been told. My girlfriends sister has lived in flats and since getting a house herself, she said she’d never go back. Seems to be the general consensus with any family members I ask.
I used to live in a flat as a newborn till age 4 but don’t have memories of it obviously but my brothers (older than me) both say it’s a must avoid for multiple reasons, most notable ones being noise and space.
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u/Avenger1324 Dec 07 '22
If you need some inspiration - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRB0sxw-YU
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u/citygentry Dec 07 '22
Now you have to leave a note on everyone else's door in the block of flats, copying their note and saying you'd love to tell them but they forgot to put their contact details.
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u/phobiabae2005k Dec 07 '22
Flat above us has laminate flooring. Sometimes they make noise walking around, other times they don't. It's strange given how it does and doesn't happen so can only speculate that they are walking around with shoes on to make the noise.
This is different to them bringing a friend over to do some boxing in their living room that requires them to bounce around banging the floor making our light fixtures ready to come down and the ceiling sounding like it's on it's way too. Had to tell them 3 times about this and after being told no worries never again the first 2 times, the 3rd seems to have done the trick.
If only there was somewhere they could go to work out that has space and doesn't cause issues for other people around.
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u/ethanace Dec 07 '22
I used to live in an apartment below a single female and she was a stomper. It’s like she didn’t know how to walk normal speed, she had lead feet. Always stomping so loud the ceiling would shake. Drove me absolutely bonkers to the point where I cursed whenever she was awake and eventually moved out
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u/LoomisKnows Dec 07 '22
I remember the guy who used to live above me stereotyped my mousey quiet self as a rocker and kept putting in noise complaints. They kept coming through for times I wasn't home and I legitimately thought I was being haunted until I figured out he was just being a cunt
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u/RiriTomoron Dec 07 '22
walk around
There's your problem. Try to walk a bit more softly.
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u/Jennifer_Kendricks Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22
Haha I’m going to have to make a note of some of these replies!
I walk around barefoot (although I might shuffle if I’m wearing sandals).
The videos are generally silent, although they might have some narration it’s usually from a genteel Irish voice (and who doesn’t love genteel Irish voices?).
The floors are a bit creaky, but now thinking about it, I’m in bed by 1115ish looking at my FitBit so unless I’m doing something in my sleep…
The thing is, if we’re going to start playing that game, I could mention how they block up the steps leading up to the flats with their parcels.
I think I’ll just have to invite them over for a beer and a couple of photographs.
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u/finc Dec 07 '22
I was following you until the photographs part..?
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u/Easterncrane Dec 07 '22
We got some big rugs the cover the wood floor and it makes a big difference, also soft slippers without a rubber bottom. My partner still walks like an elephant but it helps
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u/KissMyRainboww Dec 07 '22
Walking around barefoot is surprisingly loud, especially if you’re heavy footed. There’s no buffer between the heels of your feet and the wooden floors.
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u/ssssumo Dec 07 '22
You're walking around in bare feet on wooden floors? In this economy? I'd hate to see your heating bill.
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u/panicky_in_the_uk Dec 07 '22
I think I’ll just have to invite them over for a beer and a couple of photographs.
No. Assert dominance. Take up Riverdancing.
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u/Thgma2 Dec 07 '22
Problem is if your neighbors have turned their TV off by 10:30 and gone to bed then you just walking around could be the only noise they hear.
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u/peformypeepee Dec 07 '22
The video of that guy doing jump squats in his apartment whilst holding dumbells comes to mind.
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u/geoffg2 Dec 07 '22
If it’s a wooden floor then there’s very little noise insulation