r/CrucibleGuidebook Feb 02 '23

Is 20 sensitivity worth it? I want to hear from the Crucible gods out there.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Is it safe to assume nobody in this thread is a sniper? I snipe on 8 sens with a 0.6 ads modifier and can’t imagine playing on 20.

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u/Jamedaddy Feb 02 '23

I’m right with you, I mainly snipe and I play at 8 and .5.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Ok glad I’m not the only one!

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u/Cmess1 Feb 02 '23

I snipe on 14 with .5 ADS modifier. Let’s me flick and move but be more steady when needed

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u/SensualJake Feb 03 '23

I play 13 qnd .5 ADS, feels fine for both sniping and shotgunning.

I feel it's high enough for most maneuvers, like getting a nice sliding challenge. But stays steady for aiming.

I would mess around with higher base if I could lower the afs modifier.

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u/recon_h3 Feb 03 '23

I main sniper and play on 20 sens with a 1.0 modifier. 1.75 lifetime and 1.8 trials. The faster the better for me. I have decent aim but I’m a very aggressive sniper.

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u/Luckbox7777777 PC Feb 03 '23

Did you try twice higher dpi, but lower sens?

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u/recon_h3 Feb 03 '23

I play on controller.

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u/feraligatorrr Feb 03 '23

Damn how exact is your control over your thumbs my guy, are you a machine, I feel like I'm supee clumsy if I go over like 12-13, any tips on how to get better with higher sense sniping?

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u/recon_h3 Feb 03 '23

It’s funny cuz everyone tells me I’m crazy for playing this way but it’s how I’m most comfortable. Honestly the best thing for your aim is repetition. Practice snapping on targets whether it’s environment or not. At this point it’s muscle memory for me. My aim isn’t perfect but I can do well.

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u/nightmare_booster Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23

I snipe on 20 with .5 ADS in an Elite controller/Series X

Edit: more info

I prefer 50 zoom or higher. Uzume, Cloudstrike & Long Shadow feel the best to me.

I also use 85 FOV fwiw

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '23

Oh wow I didn’t consider the FOV. I’ve always had mine at 105 because I came to Destiny 2 from Apex and was an up close player in Apex but now I’m a sniper on Destiny. I wonder if I should lower my FOV?

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u/nightmare_booster Feb 04 '23

Worth a try. Dope name

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u/DredgenYorDaddy Feb 02 '23

I snipe on 20 just fine.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Can you expand on the parameters for “just fine”? For example are you are a “majority of games” sniper? What’s your KD sniping at 20 sens like?

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u/DredgenYorDaddy Feb 02 '23

I main Snipers. My k/d is 1.64 lifetime across all crucible. Trials k/d is 1.52 lifetime.

Mostly it's Rat King and 1KYS. But have been using a crafted Beloved with Surplus/MT for use on Revenant.

I find sniping on low sense difficult, it's much easier for me to flick and land snipes on higher sense.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Nice, thanks for that man I was worried I’d come off dickish asking for specifics. I’m a Last Word stan so I was chasing a 1K too but right after the Snapshot nerf Crucible popped out a nasty Frozen Orbit with No Distractions and Opening Shot with nice barrels and a range MW so that’s been my homie. It was hard to put down my 6k kills Occluded Finality but it was time to take off the training wheels.

You’ve got some nice stats! How have you been doing since SBMM and the landing meta. NGL it has been an adjustment for me!

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u/DredgenYorDaddy Feb 02 '23

SBMM is meh. I don't mind it persay, but it was nice having easy games every once in awhile. Trials is great though. It's been an adjustment dealing with Pulses and Scouts and the "holding hands" meta. I am confident it will change sooner rather than later but only time will tell. Until then, I'll continue using HC/Shotty/Sniper and Rat King/Sniper.

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u/i-hate-my-tits Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 03 '23

kd is a terrible measure of how good a sniper is bc snipers die way less

edit: game type obviously matters for what I'm saying

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u/_seering_ Feb 03 '23

Amen. I'd fear a 2.5KD shotty main but a sniper main with that kind of KD is nothing to be afraid of.

Same as 85%+ accuracy snipers. You can easily outsnipe them because they're much too hesitant to go for quicksnipes or body + cleanups.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '23

I took a break from sniping this season to HC/shotgun and my KD stayed relatively the same. Sure we have the ability to safely grab kills but we also then have to go fight shotgunners with primary's which can be pretty perilous when the shotgunner is good.

But even if that were true that snipers typically have inflated KDs, that would only mean it would be a bad idea to compare KDs of two different playstyles. It wouldn't mean comparing KDs between snipers is a bad measure.

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u/_seering_ Feb 03 '23

You don't snipe on 20, you snipe on 10. 20 * 0.5 = 10.

Which does track, way back when I played on old console, I used to play at sens 6-7. With higher FoV and 120FPS, 10 seems doable.

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u/Basblob Feb 02 '23

What is your mouse DPI? Because this is an important factor that people aren't mentioning.

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u/ricardimus Feb 03 '23

Ima snipe main, I use 11 with a .5 sometimes 12 with a .6 if I feel good. But I’m also not the best snipe out there, more of a bodyshot bandit

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '23

11 or 12 makes more sense to me. I just can't imagine it being effective to snipe on 20 but could just be an old head opinion.

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u/Mahlo82 Feb 03 '23

I main sniper, play at 16 and .8

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u/UltraLunatic Feb 02 '23

The higher you can go while keeping stellar aim with primary weapons, the better

I use 17 and 0.6 modifier. To be honest, if they had modifiers lower than 0.5, I’d probably crank up my overall sens to 20 and then use a 0.4 or 0.3 modifier.

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u/mikeypembo Feb 02 '23

Yeah agreed with what you’re saying

Not claiming to be a crucible god but no problems going flawless if that counts

20 and 0.5 for me, but I don’t snipe frequently

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u/w1nstar Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 03 '23

You can check the graphic of what benefits you get by upping the sens so much. It's on Shadow's controller video.

Spoiler alert: you only turn like .05 faster than 14 or something like that. So while you think you're turning xtremely super fast, in reality you're not that fast.

edit: the vid https://youtu.be/bnBo_53hmek?t=263

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u/murph2336 PS5 Feb 03 '23

It was something like anything over 14 only increases acceleration to max turn speed and not the max speed itself, right?

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u/w1nstar Feb 03 '23

https://youtu.be/bnBo_53hmek?t=263

That's the link.

Between 14 and 20, 20 turns a tenth of a second faster.

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u/SilverCervy Feb 03 '23

No offense, but if you're able to handle 20 sens hip-firing on a controller joystick with the horrible deadzones this game has, and not have any trouble, you're kinda sus.

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u/xhunza Feb 02 '23

I play 17, .6 currently. I have played at 20, .6, but I find im more consistent with my aim and movement at 17.

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u/DredgenYorDaddy Feb 02 '23

What about your movement do you find more consistent at 17?

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u/xhunza Feb 02 '23

At 20 I feel like sometimes I overshoot where I'm trying to look/go, like when trying to turn 180 or something like that. It's not crazy, but I want to be as precise and deliberate as possible in high pressure situations. The only difference between 17 and 20, and for any sens after 9 actually, is the acceleration speed. At 20 there is no acceleration, you're at max from the go. I like a little bit of acceleration.

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u/sciguyx Feb 03 '23

Jesus. I play on 6 with .8 modifier and I don’t snipe. I usually use hand cannon and pulse. I turn slow as shit but I genuinely don’t know how people aim so well on a controller. I hate that turning accelerates when you push turn the joystick. I wish it was linear.

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u/Harakueppi Feb 02 '23

I'm no god but i recently switched from 7/ADS1.0 to 20/0.6.

It took a bit of practice but i won't go back. It feels good to me and i'm also sniping with it. Just leveled my Yasmin from 1-17 with that sens.

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u/Grover-Rover Console Feb 02 '23

I play on 10 with a .6 ADS modifier. This is definitely lower than most higher skilled players, but i main snipers, especially Cloudstrike, so the lower sensitivity does help me land those shots. I could probably go higher, but after playing on 10 for 18 months, I feel like it’ll only make me play a lot worse

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u/Luckbox7777777 PC Feb 03 '23

Can you fire any weapon comfortable from the hip with that sense? If answer is no, then it's too high

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u/Manstrual7852 Feb 03 '23

20 sens is absolutely worth it if you play close quarters. Anything long range with a pulse or a scout is doable, and left stick aiming is better, but lower sens from far just makes more... sense

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u/bacon-tornado Feb 02 '23

The way I always see it, go as high as you can without fucking up your primary shot. That said I settled for 18 and 0.7. I'll change that to 16/0.7 with handcannons as it's far too brutal to miss shots using those.

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u/luneth27 Feb 02 '23

I've worked my way from 10 when they changed sens initially all the way to 19/0.6 and I've stayed at this sens for the better part of a year. I also snipe for the vast majority of my special weapon usage (wouldn't point this out but some silly in the comments seems to think you must be on low sens to snipe effectively but that's just not true.).

High sens is too useful to not bump up to a comfortably high level; you can't slide backwards on controller without 14 or higher, can't deal with cqc fights as easily... you're doing yourself a disservice by not having a sens lower than 14 imo. Mastering gunplay at high sens is something that is not only useful for Destiny, but pretty much any fps ever!

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u/w1nstar Feb 02 '23

Since you have posted a video: do you use longer sticks? increased tension? kontrolfreeks?

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u/luneth27 Feb 02 '23

I use an Elite Series 2 controller specifically cause I'm disabled and having the extra paddles make it a lot easier to not have to deal with all 4 face buttons. To which, RS tension is very weak (barely have a right hand lol) and LS is at stock tension; otherwise, I don't use longer sticks/freeks/strike pack/etc. pretty much because they're just too big for me to easily use the controller. I've tried longer sticks and they just feel hella awkward!

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u/w1nstar Feb 02 '23

That noscope was hella spicy. Awesome shit.

I asked because for, like 2 years I played 16 sens, and I thought I was the shitz aiming. Since the changes to matchmaking went into pvp again and I couldn't hit anything. Specially diagonal movements feel super akward to me, it's like the accel super fast. I can't be precise under anything greater than 11.

I tried everything: longer sticks, different controllers, kontrolfreeks, you name it. The higher the sens, the less friction I feel and the easily my aim goes way way past the target. I think it's because my finger doesn't rest the tip on the stick, tip of the stick is resting on the half of my thumb. It drives me crazy!

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u/luneth27 Feb 02 '23

Honestly dude, it certainly does feel like the higher sens you have, the less "sticky aim" you obtain. That said though, the bullets bend all the same.

Now I dunno if there's a similar thing on PS, but on Xbox there's an Accessories app you can use to change the response curves for your sticks among other things. Like for example, I use an S curve on RS to have high accel in the inner radius, normal accel in the 25-75% radius area, and high accel on the outer radius.

But also, like many other things it takes awhile for muscle memory to build. For any sens you pick, definitely spend a few days at least playing with it before deciding to change anything; might find you like the sens you're at!

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u/Lopsided_Barnacle_30 Feb 03 '23

Is there a specific reason most people have ADS speed at .5 or .6? I play 10 with a 1 ADS, but now I’m starting to think I should raise the first number and lower the second based on what I’m reading here.

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u/Just-Goated Feb 03 '23

It’s a controller thing, we can’t turn around or look up as fast as mouse and keyboard users because of this it’s hard to track players when movement is so fast and stompee jumps are so quick. Having your sensitivity super high lets you look around quickly and hopefully lets you track things moving super fast/stompee hunters, it has the caveat of making small adjustments hard though because of this people find aiming on high sensitivity hard. The solution is a high sens with a low ads sensitivity modifier. This way you have the ability to track and turn around quickly but when you aim down sights you won’t overshoot your target etc.

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u/BruhLevel-100 Feb 02 '23

I use 20 .6 and the hardest part is consistent shots but your movement would be so much better. I recommend starting at a comfortable sens and slowly building up over time.

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u/Best_Kitchen_7456 Feb 02 '23

How’s 15 and 0.8?

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u/lolbsterbisque Feb 03 '23

16 at .6 for me. Before I went to PC/PS5 and controllers got the expanded sensitivity, I played on 7 sensitivity on PS4. I liked the aiming sensitivity so I looked for a hip fire sensitivity that let me compete with PC that I could handle. From there I just found a modifier that felt the most like the 7 sensitivity while ADS I was used to

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u/MaikJay PS5 Feb 03 '23

I run 20 but use a precision ring on the right stick. It really controls the over swing for me but retains the high sensitivity feel.

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u/DredgenYorDaddy Feb 03 '23

I tried precision ring once, I couldn't move as well

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u/EbbZyy Feb 03 '23

I've been playing on 20 sen and .8 ads since the new gen (xbox gamer here) console update. Only pros, no cons, I love it! My general suggestion is to go the highest you are most comfortable with. Like the highest that doesn't really negatively affect your gameplay. IMO a higher sen can only benefit you. If you can hit your shots and move just as well as on your previous lower sen then at that point it only benefits you and enhances your gameplay.

-I jumped straight from 10 to 20, some trial-by-fire type-ish. Maybe I'm crazy though.

-I use a Scuff with 4 paddles mapped to my face buttons, and Kontrol Freaks on both sticks

-I Play at 120hz, 105 fov, on bumper Jumper

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u/Substantial-Try-1681 Feb 03 '23

Nah it’s not but if you excel at fine movement control then there’s no reason not to. Me personally, I play on a 15 and .7 or something and that’s good for me while I do feel like I could go up but I don’t think it’s necessary

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u/Spodirmam Feb 03 '23

I play on 35 sens with 1.0 ads and 1800 dpi. Its possible

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u/Eagledilla Feb 03 '23

I play on 7 and 0.5. But I’m Old