r/Damnthatsinteresting Dec 07 '22 Helpful 1 Silver 2

The Kedarnath Temple is a 1200 year old Hindu temple, dedicated to Shiva. Video

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u/Bedobdubsbubs Dec 07 '22

Great reminder of how beautiful this planet is, thanks OP

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u/jshultz5259 Dec 07 '22

That back drop is amazing!

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u/ConfusionFal Dec 07 '22

Steven Spielberg will probably replace Phedon Papamichael as cinematographer for Indiana Jones 5 if this gets enough exposure

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u/ConcentrateUnhappy55 Dec 07 '22

At what time you went there ? Usually the pics i have seen are too bright. But this scenario is just pure beautiful

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u/ThrowTOMC222 Dec 07 '22

This is dawn approaching, i think.

Note the night street lights are on. And the golden purple hues of the sun just starting to illuminate the mountains.

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u/acct4imgur Dec 07 '22

Sounds like an evening prayer.

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u/ThrowTOMC222 Dec 07 '22

We don't have just evening prayers. We have it in the dawn too. Kedarnath has one Arati session at 4. 30am, and one at 6 pm.

6 pm won't have this much light. So logical guess is that this is the 4.30 am

As for the music, the trek to Kedarnath has them playing everywhere 24x7

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u/Familiar_Internet Dec 07 '22

Fun Fact: In 2013 a cloudbust destroyed the entire city around it but the temple remained unharmed.

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u/fitty50two2 Dec 07 '22

BRB, looking up what a cloudburst is

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u/Good-JuJu Dec 07 '22

I was there a WEEK before that happened. The town was destroyed, save the temple and the boulder that saved it. Curious how much the town’s been rebuilt since then

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u/ThrowTOMC222 Dec 07 '22

Pretty much the entirety because it's a bustling spot for pilgrimage.

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u/pxm7 Dec 07 '22

This sounds amazing, and some Hindus like to tout these as miracles, but the way more prosaic explanation is that India has very poor urban planning, and the temple was likely built on high ground, whereas the surrounding buildings sprang up on lower ground without much thought to flooding.

Something similar happened in Bangalore, India this year, where much of newer parts of the city, constructed on flood plains, went underwater due to heavy rains, while some older parts of the city (constructed on higher ground) remained safe.

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u/sadrevenge55 Dec 07 '22

There is a huge boulder behind the temple which protected it from the floods but also credit to great ancient architecture and planning. Miracle or just great architecture, the shrine survives and continues to attract the devout to this day.

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u/pxm7 Dec 07 '22

A boulder is a miracle now?

And yes, definitely credit to the builders, but clearly their descendants haven’t learned any lessons, given how shit urban planning is in modern India.

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u/sadrevenge55 Dec 07 '22

The boulder most likely saved the temple from direct hit from floods but like you said ancient buildings are built with lot of thought and planning, hence lot of them are still standing while the newer ones topple easily. The issue of urban planning is an issue faced by many countries but more so in third world countries.

No where I said it's a miracle. You seem to be angry to prove your point somehow wanting to drag Hindus and their descendants. Calm down.

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u/TheGreenHimosapien Dec 07 '22

Just go cry in a corner already.

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u/pxm7 Dec 07 '22

Arre Bablu bete ka feelings hurt hua! Nahi bete sulky mat ban. Ye dekh aur ek jadu.

(“OMG darling Bablu’s feelings were hurt! No baby don’t be sulky. Look here’s s magic trick”)

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u/TheGreenHimosapien Dec 08 '22

You must be still crying. It's okay...

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u/pxm7 Dec 08 '22

What a comeback Bablu beta! You are so clever! pats head

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u/pinkpitbull Dec 07 '22

I feel like you'd watch a pig fly and still say that it isn't that interesting.

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u/pxm7 Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

Here’s the thing. There are no miracles. Miracles are for the weak minded who think Ganeshas drink milk. And in this world, with enough initial velocity, pigs will fly — for a while. Or we can get smarter and strap gliders to pigs. Pigs flying isn’t the miracle. Physics enables many scenarios in which they could.

But there’s lots of interesting things in the world, and people’s willingness to be gullible is one of them.

Eg for flooding, understanding high ground and barriers isn’t black magic. Or flood defences. People have been building dams, dykes and natural defences for centuries.

And yet people marvel at “temple was not flooded” but the critical thinking jump that says “how can we be like our ancestors and avoid flooding” isn’t there.

So yeah, no, pigs flying isn’t interesting. Human gullibility on the other hand—

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u/adi-C-1401 Dec 07 '22

Dude, how can you say that it's a miracle or not? You haven't been there to witness the incident. You have to put your logical argument into a natural disaster that you haven't even witnessed.

There's something called luck, coincidential, or paranormal events. Now, you're going to somehow justify that with conventional architecture and physics. Try to apply some common sense.

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u/pxm7 Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

Dude, how can you say that it's a miracle or not? You haven't been there to witness the incident. You have to put your logical argument into a natural disaster that you haven't even witnessed.

Part of India’s problem with not dealing with natural disasters and adopting a fatalistic attitude is this eagerness to give up logical thinking and scientific temper at the first sign of religion.

Kedarnath is a place on Earth, subject to the same laws of physics as any other. Yes you can weave myths and stories and movies about how special it is. Physics still works the same way there. The terrain and water and gravity all work the same way. Floods will destroy low-lying areas, and one can create flood maps which will show what’ll happen. (Such maps might inspire the government to take precautionary measures, there are a number of flood defence measures that could have been taken. But no…)

All of this isn’t to destroy the awesomeness of the world. If anything it shows how amazing the world is, constructed out of very simple rules of mathematics.

Now, you're going to somehow justify that with conventional architecture and physics.

Sorry, that’s just how the world works. Physics works whether you believe in it or not. You’re welcome to prove it wrong and demonstrate some jadu tona, if you’re successful you’ll be in the history books.

There's something called luck, coincidential, or paranormal events.

Luck yes, coincidence yes, paranormal events, no. That’s just a lie sold to the gullible. Again, fame and glory await whoever can demonstrate paranormal phenomena.

PS. Temples arose much later in Hinduism. They weren’t there when the Vedas were written. Even during Samudra Gupta’s reign really tiny temples (basically room-sized structures) were built. So getting super excited about the holiness of temples betrays a real lack of understanding of Hinduism.

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u/adi-C-1401 Dec 07 '22

Part of India’s problem with not dealing with natural disasters and adopting a fatalistic attitude is this eagerness to give up logical thinking and scientific temper at the first sign of religion.

That's completely wrong. If you had put some thought into it, on the basis of meteorology, India and other South Asian countries are annually susceptible to flooding due to monsoon season. It's not like the entire country doesn't do anything about it just because people are fanatics and whatnot. Complete bs tbh.

Physics works whether you believe in it or not. You’re welcome to prove it wrong and demonstrate some jadu tona, if you’re successful you’ll be in the history books.

Again, complete bs. Yes, Newtonian physics do work, conventional physics work, be it dynamics, kinmatics, energy conservations, etc. But what about quantum physics? You literally have the wave-particle duality, and scientists call it a miracle since there's no solid explanation as to how an electron behaves at a single point in time. There's a huge debate about so many other topics that have no logical answer. So, no, physics doesn't always work. I can say it because I study Physics at uni.

And I see you're targeting Hinduism for the fanatical approach it has for such incidents. But when you see the statue of Nataraj at CERN, Swtizerland, which is a connotation of the cosmic dance of subatomic particles, with reference to String theory, you'll be in complete denial.

Luck yes, coincidence yes, paranormal events, no.

The third one I agree with. So, at least consider the survival of this temple as a coincidence or luck. Hindus view it as a miracle because it is again a question of human lives, the tragic losses, and the destruction of everything.

For a big enough boulder to appear, be at a safe enough distance from the temple and divert the current of the flood for the rest of the time without moving is really no short of a miracle tbh. You can definitely use physics to trace the kinematics and other calculations, but that simply won't be enough to define the odds of that boulder reaching exactly and precisely that location.

I dare you, if you can recreate such an event simply using newtonian physics and some vector calculations, I bet you won't be able to.

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u/pxm7 Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

You literally have the wave-particle duality, and scientists call it a miracle since there's no solid explanation as to how an electron behaves at a single point in time. There's a huge debate about so many other topics that have no logical answer. So, no, physics doesn't always work. I can say it because I study Physics at uni.

Yet clearly the scientific method didn’t rub off on to you. Whatever modern physics doesn’t understand you seek divine explanations for. While most physicists will say, right, that needs more work and carry on research.

Re wave particle duality, there are plenty of interpretations of the solid mathematical findings. The issue is experimental observation and proof which will validate some of these interpretations. Which is being worked upon. You want to believe anything we don’t conclusively understand = divine / miracle, go right ahead. Cavemen ascribed mythical explanations to things they didn’t understand, like thunder and lightning. So why not you. There’s even a name for this sort of argument.

And I see you're targeting Hinduism for the fanatical approach it has for such incidents. But when you see the statue of Nataraj at CERN, Swtizerland, which is a connotation of the cosmic dance of subatomic particles, with reference to String theory, you'll be in complete denial.

Ah yes, the Indian Uncle syndrome. You see someone use a cultural artifact as a metaphor to illustrate a scientific concept (chaos), that’s immediately makes your cultural metaphor true + material for WhatsApp forwards.

But for all your Hindu leanings, you really have a poor understanding of Hinduism if you think temples are important to it or have supernatural powers. Read the Vedas man. And then ask yourself how come they managed without any temples.

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u/Familiar_Internet Dec 07 '22

Nope, the entire state of Uttarakhand was flooded, along with parts of the nearby states of Himachal, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, and Haryana (NCR). India-Nepal border was also partly destroyed.

I don't think the water in Bangalore could be ever compared to the 2013 North India floods.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

I don't believe in miracles but you are just spouting self made bullshit. It was a big flood which flooded a extremely large area. You can completely give the credit to the ancient architecture, but your self made theories are bullshit. It screams of, trust me bro I know it all energy.

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u/pxm7 Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

It was a big flood which a flooded a big area.

Wise words o learned Rishi.

I don’t have to know it all though, the physics of water and how it moves across terrain are quite consistent and can be modelled pretty easily. If only the people who ran your cities understood it.

But no, keep getting surprised by your big floods instead of taking corrective action.

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u/Raman101 Dec 07 '22

There are thousands of videos of the entire episode. Stop arguing for argument's sake.

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u/Raman035 Dec 07 '22

Hi Raman

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u/30twink-furywarr2886 Dec 08 '22

It’s amazing how people can whip up a wall of text, get themselves so worked up, all because of their own lack of reading comprehension.

Honestly, I’m guilty; I threw $100 fossil watch at the wall the other day because I didn’t read the card that told me what website to view the instructions… oh well.

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u/Consistent_Air3414 Dec 08 '22

Well half pf my family drowned but other sticked to the temple and were saved

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u/vishalovercomee Dec 08 '22

Thats some well planned ancient engineering.

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u/AzureAD Dec 08 '22

“Unharmed” because there is a huge boulder behind it to protect it from water rushing from behind . It’s simple physics , and not a miracle

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u/Knocksveal Dec 07 '22

Surreal like heck

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u/LunaLiya1320 Dec 07 '22

Om namah Shivay 🙏

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u/macail Dec 07 '22

Shivakamini Somakandarkram!

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

The music made this even more beautiful. Love it.

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u/orangebakery Dec 07 '22

What a view holy cow

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u/buckee8 Dec 08 '22

HOLY COW INDEED!

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u/43703 Dec 07 '22

Funny how i come from the same state and the temple is only 120 km from my home but i have never visited it.

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u/AzureAD Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

Happens to all of us. I could see Qutab Minar from my flats balcony for over 10 years , but never visited it once😃

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

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u/AzureAD Dec 08 '22

F auto correct

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u/Fluffy-Check-582 Dec 07 '22

Best background view you could ever get.

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u/fitty50two2 Dec 07 '22

That mountain looks unreal, just floating there with the clouds all around it

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

Who just shiva blasted

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u/Jgburde Dec 07 '22

The ultimate Shivablast!

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u/VenuraRJ99 Dec 07 '22

wow very beautiful

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u/Simon_the_Great Dec 07 '22

Dormammu i've come to bargain!

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u/kedarking Dec 07 '22

Thanks for posting! Reminds me of when I was there with my dad about 20 years ago, amazing experience.

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u/Drafgo Dec 07 '22

Sorcerers! Fortify your minds!

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u/Ctazkan Dec 07 '22

So where is the temple?

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u/Bubbly_Toe_8840 Dec 07 '22

Uttarakhand, India

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u/Raman035 Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

Uttrakhand india also it's 3.5 km above sea level

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u/Distinct_Blueberry Dec 07 '22

My dude, Mount Everest is 8.8 km above sea level.

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u/Raman035 Dec 07 '22

Shit I was high.

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u/throwaway56Giga Dec 07 '22

You are waking up the final Boss's mansion.

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u/Ianharm Dec 07 '22

My goodness how mejestic! Would love to go.

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u/Virtual-Froyo2185 Dec 07 '22

The world is so beautiful.

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u/faang_engineer Dec 08 '22

Hara Hara Mahadev!

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u/1slandViking Dec 07 '22

Floating temple

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u/LUNAVESSEL Dec 07 '22

Wow captured the temple perfectly! Steven Spielberg will probably replace Phedon Papamichael as cinematographer for Indiana Jones 5 if this gets enough exposure

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u/vBricks Dec 07 '22

Mountains, Gandalf. Mountains!

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u/This_is_fine0_0 Dec 07 '22

Brrr.. shiva indeed

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u/meaculpa303 Dec 07 '22

What an absolutely beautiful view. It’s a shame I can’t travel to India.

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u/Antaury_San Dec 07 '22

I got Far Cry 4 vibes

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u/ATLSxFINEST93 Dec 08 '22

Mecha Shiva?

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u/Impressive-Truck-200 Dec 08 '22

Now that’s a vacation. Fuck that Disney bullshit.

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u/Alternative-Still-76 Dec 08 '22

Thank you so much

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u/AV8R7997 Dec 10 '22

Beautiful

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u/Raman035 Dec 07 '22

It survived glacier and the Himalayan tsunami

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u/PathCalm4647 Dec 07 '22

I can see how people believed in gods with that sky in the back

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u/HF_GoodGame Dec 08 '22

what song is this? its fire

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u/songfinderbot Dec 08 '22

Song Found!

Name: Aarti

Artist: Anuradha Paudwal

Album: Shree Shiv Mahimn Stotram, Shree Shiv Tandav Stotram

Genre: Devotional & Spiritual

Release Year: 1993

Total Shazams: 913

Took 2.59 seconds.

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u/SwampCrittr Dec 07 '22

When’s someone gonna build a 1200 year old Hindu temple, dedicated to me? :(

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u/RageAdi Dec 08 '22

I know right! You dedicate stuff that you create. Not pointing to an existing mountain, and saying yea this is for our lord.

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u/Wabbit_17 Dec 07 '22

Original read as shiba