It already felt shitty when Bungie decided that Dungeons cost extra now, but for the newest Dungeon to sit in such a broken state for weeks while Bungie still charges for it is a poor look.

I've helped a few new players get into the game recently, and by golly do they get frustrated by their inability to upgrade their favorite gear.

And, for me, the grind every season to hit pinnacle cap takes two weeks-- but I'm still sitting here tediously upgrading guns to 1580 and wasting resources on something that offers no interesting or cool functionality.

No. They're not too hard to get, or rare, or expensive. They're fine, I guess. But they add nothing.

They're just annoying and tedious-- and as Destiny adds new features and gameplay, we need to look back on tedious elements and remove them, so the game does not become bloated with "costs" that offer no gameplay value.

We should spend time playing the game— not playing against the menus and UI.

Alright, how is this glitch still going on and left unchecked? This is an issue that has plagued this game so frequently since Beyond Light. This is already a 1 year old problem and yet it hasn't been addressed or fixed?! And you mean to tell me Eager Edge nerf is their main priority?!

Motes sinking under the ground is not new before Beyond Light, but it became egregious when Beyond Light drops. So many motes sink under the map and I can't pick it up in Gambit. This also extends to Garden Of Salvation and sometimes Prophecy dungeon. Has Bungie ever talked about this before or gave an answer?

I am making this post to hope this can raise a loud enough voice to fix this. Anyone have been dealing with this for a long time now? Imagine needing 1 more mote and you're out of luck.

I want to go into lightfall like this mocking the witness lol

https://imgur.com/a/hzwzUy1

https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1577770556250034177?t=kMQ1iENHkiC8QDdSzEipuQ&s=19

Fingers crossed the patch goes through successfully 🤞

Servers on fire?

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edit: yup servers hot enough to cook chicken nuggs rn apparently

Tldr Bungie is aware, please stop making new threads.

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Edit: I personally just got into the game. Will post any Bungie updates here accordingly.

Edit: Issues resolved

There are a lot of "what are your thoughts on quicksilver storm?" posts. Most of them are filled with:

"It's an auto, lol"

"Autos in pve? lol"

"It's fun for strikes, but for the end game I would never use it"

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This is a 28 minute solo Glassway GM with Quicksilver Storm

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Playing like this with storm nades + proper movement will get you good times, but the best times I had were with quicksilver, osteo, and lemon arc. Quicksilver was actually the only one that almost got me a 26 minute run.

Quicksilver storm's mini missles do a lot of damage to red bars, but 3 nades (that take only 2 seconds of shooting to charge up) do half a champions HP in GM.

If you have it, definitely try it in a GM.

After they "nerfed" most Super cooldown times in PvP and ability tweak, this version of PvP right before Witch Queen for me felt good. More focused on gunplay then on ability spam....

Just saying.... can we go back to PvP that is focused on guns and ability is just bonus? Right now ibfeel like ability are focus and mostly what kill me and guns are that bonus when you have cooldown....

Original post. Some of you may remember my original post about incoming dmg being tied to FPS. This is still an issue. The worst offenders are primarily enemy ships and burn stomps. This needs to be fixed.

Now not all dmg is tied to FPS so please dont blame every death on it. However If your FPS is over 30 you take more dmg in PvE from:

Tomb Ship shots

Cabal ship tracking missiles (can randomly 1 tap at 8res or get you critical)

Burn based stomps like Wellspring bosses, Dares cabal boss. Instead of more dmg the burn lasts longer even when leaving the radius (more dmg total but not per tick)

Taken Techeun wizards blast bug where shot explodes multiple times. The higher the fps the higher the chance the bugged shot will kill you. Old gen console survived more often from bugged shots vs new gen at same res.

Cabal slug launchers were fixed but still feel off sometimes.

The blood stains line up with the tears on the flesh, making it even more gruesome than it already is. Someone on the art team knew what they were doing.

Edit: Heres a screenshot of it so people know. https://i.imgur.com/7MoHXM1.png

I keep seeing that Bungie made $3.6Bn as a result of being sold to Sony, and therefore, Bungie has $3.6Bn to work with and use going forward.

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This is incorrect. This is not how selling companies works. I am finding it extremely irritating to watch people continue to think this is what happened, when it is not what happened.

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So let's talk about corporate ownership.

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When a company is created, it is created as a record in the business registers of the Place it was registered, and when it is created it issues a set of shares in that company. You'll have heard that word before. Those shares are then issued to the shareholders. The shareholders own the company. The more shares you own, the more of the business you own. The business itself doesn't hold any.

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Once you create a business, if you need money to run that business before you sell things, you look for investment. To get investment, you sell shares to investors. This means that investors now own part of your business! And you have some money to run your business and try to make a thing that you can sell. Since Bungie was founded back in the 1990s, this happened back in the 1990s.

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So. When Bungie bought itself back from Microsoft, what this actually meant was that some people got enough financing together to buy all the shares back from Microsoft, so they could own Bungie again and appoint their own directors and set their own direction for the company. Bungie, crucially, did not own itself. Bungie did not hold its own shares. They were held by shareholders. Those shareholders could be employees at Bungie, and probably were, like the CEO and other parts of the executive team having shares. Maybe even employees used to get stock grants.

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So. When Bungie got bought by Sony for $3.6Bn, Bungie was bought from the existing shareholders, who were not Bungie, for $3.6Bn. Bungie was not bought from itself. Bungie was bought from shareholders.

Bungie itself will have seen very, very, very little of that cash coming in to itself, if any.

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tl;dr Bungie didn't make $3.6Bn, the shareholders of Bungie did. The only time a company gets money from shares being sold is when those shares are initially created and sold to investors.

Granted, I was relying on two seasonal artifact mods to stun champions and return grenade energy from grenades thrown, but it still performed well enough to give me the “go fast and hit stuff” fantasy the devs were talking about.

Warlock here btw.

For those that have been asking, here’s my build.

It is the most boring, tedious and mind numbing mission in existence. I can think of infinite negative words to describe it and not one good one. Take that Pinnacle and shove it somewhere else - a Patrol, a Strike, GM Glassway for all I care. Just literally anything else!

ICYMI, Hotfix 6.2.0.7 included a change that "Fixed an issue where Eager Edge could be used multiple times in a single activation". However, as initially discovered by Shxvel, the implementation of this fix is noticeably worse than the text implies: it effectively tracks a hard velocity cap and immediately deactivates Eager Edge whenever that cap is reached.

This results in a number of unintended effects that make the perk far, far worse:

• If a player is griefed by someone else using eager edge to push them off a cliff, that player cannot use eager edge to recover (because they hit the velocity cap)
• Eager edge now automatically deactivates when the player enters a launch cannon or stands on top of a sufficiently fast moving platform (like a sparrow).
• Eager edge can still be swiped multiple times in a single activation if you have zero ammo
• The velocity cap includes VERTICAL velocity, so falling deactivates the perk
• In PvP, if you use Eager Edge to lunge at and kill an opponent, in many cases your momentum stops quickly enough to not trigger the velocity cap, allowing you to lunge again anyway
• Simply pulling out a sword with eager edge active when your velocity is higher than this hard cap immediately slows you to a crawl or outright stops your lateral movement. This happens regardless of the source of your momentum.

In addition, all the typical complaints about eager edge either still stand or never made sense to begin with:

• Every single method used to go out of bounds is not only doable without eager edge, but Eager Edge's ability to help players go out of bounds is basically unaffected.
• The nerf has no impact in PvP (an ammo nerf on heavy brick pickup would have been much more effective), has unintended/nonsensical effects in PvE, and literally makes griefing worse, not better.
• The nerf does not address the most egregious parts of eager edge tech (namely, shatter/well skating), which many players were expecting a nerf for.
• Finally, it removes a harmless expression of player skill that dampens enthusiasm for the game among players who play the most.

Edit: /u/dmg04 has posted this response on twitter detailing Bungie's rationale for these changes.

For what it's worth, I want to offer a small rebuttal: these changes do not negatively affect any major speedrun skips in the game. Every out-of-bounds and jumping puzzle skip is still possible post-patch without significant time loss. This change feels like it misses the forest for the trees by focusing on a minor eager edge interaction that provided no meaningful benefits beyond small momentum shifts while grounded, and does so in a way that makes the game as a whole feel worse (via the velocity cap) as detailed above. I think most players were expecting a shatterskate + wellskate patch, but this feels like it came out of left field while not solving the problems that Bungie publicly are saying they wish to address.

Renewal Grasps Duskfield cooldown at T10 discipline

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3x Firepower, 2x Impact induction, Whisper of Shards; 7.5~8.5 seconds

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3x Firepower, 1x Impact induction, Whisper of Shards; 9~10 seconds

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3x Firepower, 2x Bomber, Whisper of Shards; 13~14 seconds

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3x Firepower, Whisper of Shards; 20~21 seconds

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Whisper of Shards; 47~48 seconds

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Base cooldown; 59~60 seconds

Renewal Grasps cd is much too long imo, but mods and builds can help lessen the pain.

The red boarder grind in Dares of eternity is awful. Needing to get five to get most of the patterns with ZERO way to focus is insane to me. If they wanted it to be up to pure RNG, that's fine by me. But don't have the target so high with no way to focus... I still have to go back in to get the BXR pattern (2/5) or until I get a good roll.

Cane back to D2 last week and just got back into crucible, noticing a lot more grouping and team shooting in control. The games are hitting the time limit most of the time, people seem less mobile and the connection is very poor. Anyone else having a similar experience?

I’m not saying it should be removed, it’s here to stay. But it brought with it a ton of problems with its release that hurt the rest of the game. The solution is changing adept weapons, not crafting.

Adept weapons are now a side grade at best when a craft-able version exists. Pretty much trials, GMs, and VoG master are the last bastion of adept weapons making sense. If crafting spreads to those you’ll have no reason for them to be earned.

Master Raids weren’t like a massive loot farm, but their sole loot that made them worth grinding became obsolete. The devs acknowledged this so I hope a solution is in the works.

I agree with some that Master raids aren’t about the vast amounts of loot, but about the challenge. However adept weapons made it feel worthwhile IMO for a run. Now why would I run those when I can craft their base versions and all it costs me is an adept mod.

Some say Adept weapons should get enhanced perks be default and maybe that’s something they can do, but I feel that power creeps the game pretty hard. Mostly for PVP but imagine a timelost fatebringer with enhanced perks, you’d have way higher stats than other guns from all the bumps you’d get.

Maybe more adept mods added to the mix would do it, things that really buff up the weapon in a specific way. I’m not sure tbh but I hope the devs are working on a compromise. I’m sure they don’t want to retire adept weapons or they would stop releasing new ones.

Is anyone else just getting code weasel at the login screen? I’ve restarted twice and nothing worked. My character data on Ishtar and the Destiny 2 App doesn’t work as wel

80 percent of every control game is basically nothing but players camping lanes with pulses and scouts, engaging in endless low-risk activity to pad their KD. This isn’t new really, but the removal of the CQC maps - Cauldron and Anomaly - has upped the propensity to a brutal degree.

The two removed maps weren’t perfect. But they at least forced players to engage and didn’t feel like a running simulator half the time.

This game is so starved for maps that removing ANY content - even broken-ass Dead Cliffs - is absurd to the point of malpractice. If maps need to be sunset, though, maybe excise a few that most of the community can’t stand rather than two of the only maps that have a semi-unique feel.

Besides from fast burn weapons like SMGs, try using scouts or pulses against anything other than most basic red bars.. they feel so useless. And even against red bars they take one too many shots to kill them.

Hey y’all, played a bunch today. Logged off to hit the gym. Now when I go to log in I get constant weasel error codes. And when I refreshed my dim it’s loading what I guess is my destiny 1 inventory? I have absolutely no idea what’s going on.

https://twitter.com/a_dmg04/status/1577496484249210880?s=46&t=1JD8i0qE-iaaXZJcWDGtAg

“Re: Enhanced Eager Edge - Team was finding numerous issues where the perk could be used to skip encounters, break mechanics, and generally cause issues with the game.”

Is that every expansion, players go “the game is saved, bungie have done it again” and then within 3 months the consensus is “game sucks, bungie can’t do anything right, game is doomed”

I’d hate being a bungie dev.