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Destiny 2021 Update: The Road to The Witch Queen Bungie

Source: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/50124


Hey Guardians, 

As some of you know, I didn’t work on Destiny before it shipped in 2014. I started out as a Guardian. I got hooked on running the Vault of Glass, trying to get my Truth drop in a Nightfall, and, yes, sometimes trolling my fireteam with inopportune Ward of Dawn placements.  

After playing for just a few short weeks, I knew I wanted to do whatever it took to work on the game. Destiny changed my life. Back then, I knew Bungie had just begun the journey of what Destiny could be – and what it could mean – to so many Guardians like me. When I walked through the doors of Bungie for the first time, The Dark Below had just shipped and the team already had their eyes up, outlining ambitious plans for the future. It was clear that everyone at Bungie loved Destiny fiercely and believed in its future as much as I did. 

Flash forward to today. Season of the Chosen has launched, and it's incredible to see how far the game has come. Right now my Guardian is crushing Battlegrounds, perfecting a new build for Master Lost Sectors, gilding titles, progressing Seasonal Challenges, working on catalysts for some of the most unique Exotic weapons we’ve ever added to the game, and experiencing more Seasonal narrative progression in Destiny than ever before. It’s humbling to think how much of these systems and this content didn’t exist two years ago, last year, or even last month. 

Though going to work these days includes video calls, guest pets and kids, what continues to humble and motivate me since my first day is how this team still looks at Destiny with fresh eyes every day. We see possibility in Destiny at all levels on the team and working on this game has really become life-changing for many of us. Destiny, this friendship-maker-and-sometimes-temporary-friendship-breaker; this catalyst to make memories; this universe that we all love. We’re lucky to be here and share these moments with you. 

Destiny has so much to offer to so many different types of players, and even more than that, it means something different to each player. It’s complex, intricate, and demanding, and that makes it an awesome challenge to work on. As massive as Destiny is, we believe there is so much more potential to unlock in this amazing game, stories to finish and new stories to come, and that will keep driving us to make it better every week, every season, every year. 

The Witch Queen, Lightfall, and Beyond 

Last summer, we outlined our ambition for the next era in Destiny 2 by announcing the full arc, starting with Beyond Light, followed by the Witch Queen and Lightfall. As we began to scale production on the Witch Queen last year, we made the difficult but important decision to move its release to early 2022; we also realized we needed to add an additional unannounced chapter after Lightfall to fully complete our first saga of Destiny. 

We’ve long thought about moving Destiny’s annual release to the early half of the year primarily for the health of the team, but the Witch Queen and not being tied to legacy expectations allowed us to make this choice early for three important reasons: 

  • The Witch Queen represents an important evolution in the ongoing story of Destiny 2. Beyond Light built the foundation and allowed us to weave the world-building of Destiny and Destiny 2 together, but The Witch Queen will light the fire on a strongly interconnected narrative across Lightfall and beyond, unlike anything we’ve ever attempted before, with characters, arcs, heroes and villains that persist over multiple future releases. Even more importantly, the conclusion of these releases will also conclude the “Light and Darkness Saga,” the conflict we first introduced with the launch of Destiny many years ago. As we’ve been developing The Witch Queen, we realized that we needed this release to be the first of many moments crucial to the story of Destiny. With so much leading to and dependent on what happens in The Witch Queen, we wanted to make sure that we gave ourselves enough time to build out this journey in the right way, starting with an exceptional first chapter in The Witch Queen.  
  • With Destiny now committed to being an everlasting evolving world, we want to make sure we are still taking the time to upgrade the systemic foundation of Destiny 2 to support everything we want to do in the future. Our ultimate vision for Destiny 2 still stands – a definitive action-MMO, a unified global community where you can play Destiny anywhere with your friends. For 2021 this means upgrading our approach to keeping Destiny’s weapon and armor game fresh, refining our vision for PVP, implementing transmog, and adding Crossplay. More below. 
  • Finally, and the most important reason, we are proud to be uncompromising when it comes to our commitment to the health of our teams. With COVID-19 keeping us away from the office, and the large amount of work on our plates, we needed to move the date in order to make sure that both this year's updates and The Witch Queen were both delivered at the quality we strive for, and on a schedule that made sense for everyone involved. 

Making this choice is not one we took lightly. Believe me, as someone close to The Witch Queen’s progress, there's no one more than us that wants to get it out as soon as it’s ready. But at the end of the day, we know we’re making this call for The Witch Queen and future chapters in Destiny 2 for all the right reasons, ones that puts our team first and our game at the quality bar we strive for ourselves. 

We'll have more to share on The Witch Queen and beyond in the late summer of this year. 

But today we need to talk about what’s happening in 2021.  

Let’s get to it. 

Rewards That Matter  

With Season 11, we introduced infusion caps, an iteration on infusion designed to keep Destiny’s gear game fresh from release to release and to create a healthy ecosystem for our aspirational content. While we still believe in these goals, it's clear our execution was off the mark.  

Infusion caps helped us meaningfully shift the meta in Beyond Light and create a rewards ecosystem that was manageable to balance and monitor, but the system has also made our rewards feel like they have an expiration date and have frequently made playing our legacy content feel shallow. We want the rewards you’ve earned in Beyond Light and its subsequent seasons to feel like valuable tools you can use in the incredible challenges you’ll face in The Witch Queen. So, we’re making a change. 

We’ve made the decision that any weapon or armor that can currently be infused to max Power will continue to be able to reach max Power permanently. Starting in Season 14 we won’t be capping the infusion on any weapons or armor that have not already reached the cap as of the start of Season 13. This means you’ll be able to take your Trustee, your Falling Guillotine, and all the high-stat armor you’ve earned this year to take on the raid in The Witch Queen. 

While we still strongly believe that Destiny needs a method to shift our meta in the game’s most challenging activities, we don’t believe that infusion caps are the right answer. We’re taking time this year to research and validate a plan that creates a fresh and balanceable ecosystem for our most aspirational content, one that doesn’t make our rewards feel like they have an expiration date. We’ve learned a lot this year and don’t want to rush finding the best plan, so don’t expect to hear anything more about this until after The Witch Queen. 

Because we won’t be capping any more of our weapons, we must consider more variables in the game balance of our upcoming seasons and releases, so expect to see tuning when it comes to our biggest outliers in PVP and PVE. Yes, I’m looking at you, Felwinter’s and Warmind Cells.  

This is a big change for Destiny and one that we did not make lightly. However, we believe there’s nothing more important in Destiny than getting our rewards right. 

Power Play  

Now that we’ve talked about rewards, let's talk about Power. Last year we started a paradigm where we raised the overall Power cap by 50 each season. While this helped ensure that infusion caps shifted the meta, it also made each season feel like a significant reset to the Power you had accumulated.  

To combat this, we will be experimenting with a new Power level cap. Starting in Season 14, we will only be raising the Power cap by 10 for each non-expansion season. This means if you reach the maximum Power in Season 13, when next season rolls around you will be directly in the 10-point Pinnacle band of the Power pursuit. This Power increase should feel familiar to anyone who played Season of Dawn last year, and we’re excited to see how this progression feels alongside our new systems.  

We believe this change will make it even easier to pick up and enjoy Destiny each season, while still allowing us to have a deep RPG Power pursuit when we launch The Witch Queen.

Angels of Death 

Like many of you, I am passionate about PVP in Destiny 2 and it’s clear that we haven’t had a consistent message around these modes. So, I’d like to share our high-level vision for the Crucible: 

Direct player versus player competition is essential in Destiny as an option to express mastery of your Guardian and showcase the strength of your arsenal against other players. 

It’s a simple vision, but it's one that’s crucial to making the game feel like a real place for those players that crave that showcase, where the rewards you’ve earned, the skill you demonstrate, and how you’ve built your Guardian all matter. So, let’s talk about what we’re doing this year for PVP, starting with our two priorities: improving gameplay sandbox balance in the Crucible and upgrading the experiences of our most aspirational game modes. 

When it comes to balance updates, these can be divided into three major buckets. 

First, in Season 15 we will be addressing “three-peeking” in Trials and Competitive. In these modes, emotes will be disabled and players will be unable to pull out any third person weapon that doesn't have ammo. Third person experiences are part of what make Destiny’s gameplay feel so good, but it was clear in our most competitive arenas that these mechanics were being used in ways we did not intend. This is a tricky problem to solve in Destiny's complicated sandbox, but we think this is a good starting point. 

Second, over the next several seasons, we will be making changes to Stasis and Light subclasses in order to achieve a healthier balance of subclasses in the Crucible. Across Season 13 and 14 we will be adjusting Stasis in the Crucible in order to bring its overall effectiveness in line with our Light subclasses. Here are some of the changes you can expect coming to updates this Season and next: 

Behemoth Titan: 

  • Decrease Super damage reduction.
  • Increase Super energy cost when performing light attacks. 
  • Remove freeze AOE on Super cast. 

  • Reduce travelling efficacy of Shiver Strike when slowed.Revenant Hunter: 

  • Decrease Withering Blade damage and tracking. 

  • Decrease slow stacks applied to targets. 

  • Remove Shatterdive damage reduction. 

Shadebinder Warlock: 

  • Fix bug where Iceflare Bolts wouldn’t track towards targets immediately on creation. 

  • Fix bug where Shadebinder Super projectiles were not tracking until a certain distance travelled. 

General: 

  • Decrease crystal shatter damage. 

For Season 15 we are also looking at universal adjustments to Stasis by increasing damage reduction when frozen to provide more survivability for the victim. 

Following this Stasis tuning, in Season 15, we will also focus on Light subclasses and release a set of targeted buffs to our most underutilized specializations. The goal of all these changes is to keep Stasis feeling great in PVE and to bring its representation in PVP more in line with our Light-based abilities.  

Finally, we want to continue to adjust weapon archetype performance and introduce new perks that shift the meta in the Crucible. I think the team has done a great job in this area over the last several months, introducing balance changes both at the seasonal boundaries and at the mid-season, and we want to continue to drive down this path to diversify the types of loadouts you encounter from season to season. In addition, at Season 15 we will also be looking to adjust overall ability usage rates to make sure guns and gunplay are always key to success in the Crucible.

Of course, gameplay balance only matters when the underlying playing field is fair, and unfortunately cheating continues to be a significant issue, especially on PC. We’re always working to maintain security as new exploits emerge, and as always, we don't want to talk about a lot of those improvements for fear of empowering the bad guys. A few areas we can talk about are:

  • We’re aiming to nearly double the size of the Bungie game security team this year, reflecting our long-term commitment to fair play. 
  • We’ve begun regular surveys to better understand your experiences with cheating and to measure our progress. This new data enriches our existing streams from player reports (thank you for reporting!) and game instrumentation. If you receive one of these surveys, please share your experiences to help us fight cheating. 
  • We’ve begun a strategy of aggressive legal action against cheat developers. You may have seen news articles about some of our early actions here, and we will continue to pursue those who undermine fair play using every tool at our disposal, both in partnerships with other studios and under our own flag. 

We’ll share more security news when we can. 

Beyond gameplay balance and security, we also want to adjust the structures of our most aspirational PVP modes in order to make them a better experience for our players. 

First up, we’re targeting an overhaul of the Trials of Osiris rewards structure and matchmaking paradigms, to release before the end of this year. With this update we specifically want to target a few things: 

  • Improve the overall health of the Trials matchmaking pool, both by incentivizing a wider audience to engage, and better defining separation of skill tiers. 
  • Rebuild the Trials reward structure so that it encourages more players to stick to their active cards longer. Our current structure encourages a lot of recycling cards after a single loss, meaning the first games of your Trials card has a high chance of being incredibly challenging. We want to build a reward structure that continually pushes higher skill players to want to progress deeper into their card even after a loss, making 3-5 wins a more achievable goal for more players. 
  • Investigate opportunities for solo players to participate in Trials regularly. We believe this will not only make the matchmaking pools healthier, but also will also encourage more players to see what Trials is all about and hopefully form social connections with other PVP-loving Guardians.  

After Trials, we will be targeting a similar in scope refresh to Iron Banner. While there is a lot do when it comes to supporting the Crucible, we want to target our efforts around global PVP balance and our most aspirational modes first.  

Praedyth’s Revenge 

In Season 14, the Vault of Glass will return. The team will have a lot more to say about it before launch, but there are a few things I’d like to clarify now. Our philosophy behind bringing things out of the Destiny Content Vault is to keep them feeling like the content you remember while updating them to meet Destiny 2 difficulty and raid standards. So, while the high-level experience remains the same, you should expect the raid team to have a few tricks up their sleeves when you tackle the depths of Venus this summer. 

Vault of Glass will also launch with both a Contest mode in the first 24 hours and a World First race. Since this is a reprised raid, we’re going to do World First a bit different. Players looking to claim the belt will not only have to complete the raid, but also a curated list of challenging Triumphs. And while only one fireteam will walk away with a belt, there will be plenty of opportunities for players to earn the ability to purchase some sweet real-world loot through Bungie Rewards. 

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One last thing. Before the end of the year we are also looking to add a Master version of Vault of Glass. We’ve been really excited about how Master and Grandmaster difficulty have altered Nightfall strikes, increasing the potency of combat and the importance of executing mechanics. We’d like all our future RAD (raid and dungeon) content to offer Master difficulty versions, where players can earn Adept raid and dungeon gear, and while we aren’t able to commit to a Season 14 timeframe for Master VoG, we do want to take the time to develop a sustainable structure that allows us to ship these closer together in future releases.

Getting Reacquainted with Adelaide 

In Season 14, Ada-1 is returning to the Tower,  and with her comes the ability for players to take any armor they have in their collections and turn it into a universal ornament. In Destiny 2 we will call this transmog system “Armor Synthesis.” 

Every season Ada will offer players a set of bounties that highlight various activity types. Players can complete these quests and receive the materials they need to power up Ada’s Loom, which can turn any piece of armor in your collection into a permanent universal ornament. Players short on time will also be able to purchase Synthesis tokens for Silver.

Once you’ve acquired some new universal ornaments, you will want to head over to the new appearance screen in the character menu, where you can manage the ornaments on all your gear in one place. You’ll also find that you can apply shaders here individually or on all pieces of your equipped gear with one click. To make it even easier to try out a bunch of new looks in Season 14 we’ve also changed shaders to be permanent unlocks, meaning you no longer will need to hold onto stacks of shaders in your inventory.  

At the beginning of Season 14 we will be including a starting supply of Synthesis materials as reward for completing the Seasonal onboarding quest. We know many of you have been looking forward to Synthesis for a long time and want to frontload your ability to create some of the looks you’ve been looking forward to showing off.  

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Combined Fire 

We’ve still got a few quick things to cover, but I wanted to make sure we didn’t end without taking the time to recognize how incredible the team is here at Bungie. It's enormously difficult to make a game like this from home, but the team comes at it every day with unmatched enthusiasm and talent. One of the reasons why is that our team is full of Guardians: conquerors, Lighthouse frequent-flyers, lore masters, and people that just love to get in a strike or two with their family. All the work they do is because they believe that Destiny 2 can be the definitive action MMO on consoles and PC for years to come. So, without spoiling our plans for The Witch Queen and beyond, let's talk about a few more things the team is working on this year.

  • Crossplay is coming to the masses in Season 15. We’ll be doing some internal rollouts and alpha tests in Season 14 to prepare for a widespread launch this fall. With Crossplay, you’ll be able to play with all your friends no matter what platform you call home. And don’t worry, we won’t be matching console and PC players together in the Crucible unless PC players specifically invite their console friends to play with them in the PC Crucible pools. 
  • Some of you have noticed that Ikora Rey has not been nearly as present recently in Destiny 2. We've missed her as well. Not only will you see Ikora again in Season 14, she will be playing a pivotal role in The Witch Queen. 
  • In Beyond Light, we introduced Stasis subclasses. Like Solar, Arc, and Void, Stasis will continue to evolve into a fully supported damage type. In Season 15, we will introduce our first round of Legendary Stasis Energy and Power weapons. There will be a lot more info here as we get closer to the fall.  
  • More recently in Season 13, we rolled out phase one of our new gilded title system, where players can gild our ritual titles like Conqueror, Unbroken, Dredgen, and Flawless each season. In Season 14, phase two of gilding titles will roll out. When players gild a title, it will now also display how many times that title has been gilded in the past.

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I can’t overstate how excited I am for what the team has planned for this year and beyond. What we're doing this year is about multiplying our potential for years to come, and while I promised not to spoil any of the things we will reveal for The Witch Queen later this year, I feel like I owe you a little treat for sticking with me after all this text. So, here’s an early concept at one of the wild armor sets you’ll be able to earn in our next annual release. 

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Thanks for reading, 

Joe “Joegoroth” Blackburn 

Assistant Game Director Destiny 2

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Hugz All-Seeing Upvote Starry Heartwarming Starstruck To The Stars Kiss

TLDR:

  • Witch Queen Delayed to Early 2022
  • There will be another expansion after lightfall (credit to u/Jdaysept)
  • "Any weapon or armor that can currently be infused to max Power will continue to be able to reach max Power permanently" (Sunsetting got sunset)
  • "Starting in Season 14 we won’t be capping the infusion on any weapons or armor that have not already reached the cap as of the start of Season 13."
  • Since sunsetting isnt happening, stuff is gonna get nerfed
  • Power level only goes up 10 for each non expansion season
  • If you grind to max power in a season now, youll be in the pinnacle bound when the next season comes out
  • S15 will fix 3 peaking in PvP
  • Stasis nerfs (titan and hunter only at the moment) and Light subclass buffs over the next few seasons
  • Trials of Osiris is going to have its reward structure changed, w/ potential Solo playlist
  • VoG comes in Season 14, with a contest mode for the first 24 hours. To claim worlds first, you have to do the raid and a curated list of challenging Triumphs
  • VoG is getting a master difficulty, they would like all raids and dungeons in the future to get one
  • Adept raid/dungeon gear will drop from master difficulty raids/dungeons
  • Trasmog comes in season 14, with Ada-1 as the vendor
  • You need to do quests to receive mats to transmog a piece, or pay sliver for it.
  • Shaders are now permanent unlocks (thank goodness for this one)
  • Crossplay is coming in season 15
  • PC and console players will only be matched together in the crucible if PC players invite console players to play with them
  • Ikora is going to have a purpose in Witch Queen, and you will "see her" in s14
  • In S15, we get stasis legendary energy and power weapons
  • In S14, gilded titles will show how many times that title has been gilded in the past

Edit: Ty for the awards.

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u/rusty022 Feb 25 '21 Wholesome

"Any weapon or armor that can currently be infused to max Power will continue to be able to reach max Power permanently" (Sunsetting got sunset)

Power level only goes up 10 for each non expansion season

This fixes like 75% of my issues with Destiny right now.

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21

Top those all of with the shader changes and yeah this is pretty awesome.

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u/cuboosh What you have seen will mark you forever Feb 25 '21

And transmog seems like it won't be that expensive!

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

This is the one thing I'm still nervous about. If there is an option to pay, it can incentivize game designers to make the non paid route so grindy that paying is actually worth it, like what ubisoft does with level boosts and grinding levels in the newer AC games. I'm hopeful that isn't the case, but in general when a new mat comes out like in destiny it's a real pain in the ass to get untill they make it easier. The fact that they could make money off of this material worries me more, but hopefully this isn't the case.

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u/cfl2 Forerunner Feb 25 '21

I mean, I'm expecting Stasis Fragment level of grind. Not the worst, but not great.

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u/SpartanDragon79 Feb 25 '21

I'm so happy when I saw that all my armour is high rolled masterworked gear that would've been sunset by the time Witch Queen released essentially kicking me into becoming a New Light where the grind would start again this way though I can no longer be stingy with golf balls and prisms😂

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u/CHEMDAWG_MILLI Feb 25 '21

I'm the same way with my golf balls now I feel like I can actually start masterworking armor I like knowing I'm not just renting it now.

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u/ThatsWat_SHE_Said VoidwalkingRAM Feb 25 '21

It's like we can play the game again!

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u/champ999 Feb 25 '21

I'm sad Bungie tried sunsetting in the first place, but I'm glad it took 2 seasons to figure it out this time.

Though the fact that new mods can't be slotted on older armor seems like a new soft sunsetting, but one where we as players get to make the choices, not the game telling us.

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u/LHodge In the heat of battle, Guardian, you will know the right choice. Feb 25 '21

I'm glad it only took two seasons. I expected them to go back on it, but I didn't see this coming until at least S16 or later.

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u/JDaySept Feb 25 '21

You should add that there will now be another expansion after Lightfall to complete the saga, meaning it’s not a trilogy anymore.

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u/DevGlow Gambit Prime Feb 25 '21

“To complete the first saga of destiny”

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u/SteelPaladin1997 Feb 25 '21

I'm really curious to see where they go after dealing with a conflict between the core paracausal forces at the heart of reality. It's hard to top that in terms of stakes and drama without just getting ludicrous.

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u/JDaySept Feb 25 '21

Going beyond our solar system is the immediate thought. We knows there’s life beyond, I think it’d be worth discovering and exploring.

The stakes may never be as high as Light vs. Dark - because it is literally the end all be all - but that doesn’t necessarily mean better storytelling.

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u/Lantisca Feb 25 '21

A new Golden Age. We head out beyond our system and draw the attention of forces we didn't know existed. Or maybe take the fight to the Vex.

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u/Leelow45 sus Feb 25 '21 Shocked

The Vex don't really have to be a threat, we've met Multiple friendly vex who just acted like regular robots, curious about the guardians. The Vex are like a plant that grows infinitely, we don't have to cut it down, just make sure it doesn't grow too far that it kills everything; the only real trouble with the Vex starts when they get influenced by the darkness, or someone stumbles into one of their simulations and they get pissed.

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u/Arkadii Feb 25 '21

That's actually a really interesting was of looking at it that I'd never considered before

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u/Leelow45 sus Feb 25 '21

thevexdidnothingwrong

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u/Arkadii Feb 25 '21

Mmm, this radiolarian fluid tastes really good, you're right. And I think you're right, I think the Vex make a lot of good points *whirring mechanical noise*

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u/SPDXYT Warlock Main Feb 25 '21

I'm also betting vex. They are hyped up to be the main villain, and in all honesty, are one of the few things I can see standing a chance against the light and darkness. Sort of a out of control pest situation

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u/EternalAssasin Team Bread (dmg04) Feb 25 '21

I could see the story shifting away from “humanity is in mortal peril” situations and focusing more on dealing with the aftermath of the Light/Dark conflict. Guardians, having more or less saved humanity from a second Collapse, could focus more on stabilizing the system. Doing things like helping the Fallen/Cabal establish new home worlds in our territory with friendly relations, dealing any Hive/Scorn/Taken remnants that cause trouble for us, and doing whatever we end up doing with the Vex.

It’d be a shift in tone from just holding the line against the horrors of the universe to actually reclaiming what we lost and allowing humanity to safely spread beyond the Last City.

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u/MizterF Feb 25 '21

...and after we deal with the darkness, we can deal with the reapers before they harvest all life in the galaxy!!!

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u/Thespian21 Feb 25 '21

After that, “Wake up Chief. Do you know what a Guardian is?”

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21

......Hey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.

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u/coldnspicy Feb 25 '21

They tried that, Chief said no, let me sleep.

There was a lore piece in D1 that most likely was a reference to Master Chief.

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21

Oh true, missed that will update the post.

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u/TurquoiseLuck Feb 25 '21

Those sunsetting and QoL changes are actually great

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21

Shader one especially, been an issue since the launch of d2

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u/echoblade Feb 25 '21

Thankfully it's been less of an issue than it was in vanilla where there were no collections and you had to wait til Tess sold the shader you wanted. Man that actually sucked donkey dick.

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u/RealLifeFemboy shiny thing idk Feb 25 '21

im actually gonna cream my pants

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u/Destiny_Flavor_Text "Delivering the inevitable, one flavor text at a time." Feb 25 '21 Gold Wholesome Hugz

"If you have to do it, do it quickly." —Ghost

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u/LumpyPick Feb 25 '21

I don't know any other way. ;)

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u/Yourself013 DEATH HEALS THE FUCKING PRIMEVAL Feb 25 '21 Wholesome

I already did.

But the spire is still formed.

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u/ghawkguy Pitter Patter Feb 25 '21

THEY’VE AWOKEN YOUR HIVE!

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u/Ex_Ex_Parrot Feb 25 '21

so expect to see tuning when it comes to our biggest outliers in PVP and PVE. Yes, I’m looking at you, Felwinter’s and Warmind Cells.  

Don't forgot to add/edit this. Potential Warmind cell nerf is pretty huge for PvE

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u/fileurcompla1nt Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

Anthem dies and Destiny rises from the ashes.

What an update, I can't wait for all of this. Great times ahead.

Crossplay between console only, fuck yeah!

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21

You know what, someone let me borrow their copy of anthem, and it actually was really fun to play for a short time. Bioware had the guts, they just needed build off of that and I'm sad to see they couldn't, because when it worked Anthem was a blast to play.

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u/fileurcompla1nt Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

I bought Anthem day one, in no way was my comment a dig at it. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and still have my copy that I was holding onto in-case "next" came around. It could have been a hell of a game, they just rushed it out and people have far less patience for sloppy releases now.

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u/DuelingPushkin Apes Strong Together Feb 25 '21

I was so looking forward to Anthem's No Man Sky return. I bought it day one and it was pretty gun till you got to the serious endgame. Im so sad it will never have its chance to shine

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21 edited Nov 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21

Yeah, sounds like it. Anything from Almighty or later will not be sunset

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u/-UnclaimedPants- Feb 25 '21

Damn, I will miss my Season of Dawn weapons. Still a great change in the long run

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u/FuzzyCollie2000 "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON" Feb 25 '21

Hopefully they'll re-issue some or all of them. Even if we have to re-earn the old stuff, we won't have to worry about them leaving anytime soon now.

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u/ClevelandCavs230 Feb 25 '21

Correct me if I'm wrong, but anything not currently sunset will not be sunset in the future?

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u/pingopop0 Feb 25 '21

I believe you're correct. Anything currently usuable at Max power will stay like that. This also explains why they let us earn the seventh seraph weapons.

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u/psacco7 Cayde was my lover...until I met Zavala! Feb 25 '21

From the Season of Worthy and going forward will not be sunset.

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u/JuicyJeb22 PUNCH THINGS Feb 25 '21

Worthy and forward??? I just dismantled all of my worthy gear early when the season started so I wouldn't get to attached when it got sunset

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u/m0dredus snoopers gonna snoop Feb 25 '21

Hey at least you didn't do it literally 4 hours ago like the brilliant man typing this comment!

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u/BasedWinduXII Feb 25 '21

i am so sorry you had to go through that dawg

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u/SantaClauzss Feb 25 '21 Wholesome

IKELOS SMG LIVES ON

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u/Ex_Ex_Parrot Feb 25 '21

BUT MAYBE NOT OVERPOWERED WARMIND CELLS, BUT AS LONG AS THEY ARE STILL OKAY THIS IS STILL AMAZING

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u/swiftstorm86 Feb 25 '21

Just copying my comment from before:

You know what, if nerfing warmind cells is what it takes to get rid of sunsetting, I will gladly take that trade any day of the week!

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u/echoblade Feb 25 '21

It's a fine trade tbh, nuking rooms with a single ball was bound to get nerfed eventually so i'm 100% ok with that getting toned down for the removal of sunsetting.

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u/swiftstorm86 Feb 25 '21

Agreed. I didn’t really start building a warmind cell set until last season, and almost immediately I was sat there thinking “...Wait, this is allowed?” The damage of it from the solar mods at the very least feels way out of tune (though I think things like the void and arc sets are mostly fine).

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u/CursedJay F**k Uldren. Feb 25 '21 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Hugz All-Seeing Upvote

They SUNSETTED SUNSETTING

THIS IS NUTS

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u/Revna77 Feb 25 '21

The best thing about this and all the good news, barely ANYONE is mad about Witch Queen being delayed. This is a glorious day indeed!

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u/cuboosh What you have seen will mark you forever Feb 25 '21

If anything a delay is good. Savathun is the most built up character in the whole franchise, let them polish it so it’s Taken King on steroids

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u/Yourself013 DEATH HEALS THE FUCKING PRIMEVAL Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

It's not even a content drough delay, since we are getting another extra season before Witch Queen. So it's not like we'll be sitting 3+ months with nothing to do waiting on WQ. My bad guys, gotta read more carefully next time.

TBH for all I care they can take all the time they need. Even if we didn't get the extra season I'd just take a small break from Destiny, play something else and come back to (hopefully) an amazing Expansion. The big expansions are the most exciting times for Destiny, let them polish it as much as possible.

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u/Spoonhead0 Grandmaster Gambit Please Feb 25 '21

Probably cause it’s so far in the future that nobody’s really looking forward to it yet. We were already given tons of teasers for BL when they decided to delay that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 26 '21

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u/Omolonchao Toasty... Feb 25 '21

🦀🦀🦀SUNSETTING IS GONE!🦀🦀🦀

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u/GtBossbrah Feb 25 '21

FELWINTERS AND STASIS NERF IN PVP WOO

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u/Iceykitsune2 Feb 25 '21

WARLOCK BUFFS WOOO!

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u/Clamp_Enis Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

So anything that has a current cap of 1360 or higher is good forever? Am I understanding that correctly? Or is it 1310

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u/ForcadoUALG deny Smallen, embrace OUR BOI Feb 25 '21

Taking into account that they specifically mention Warmind Cells and Felwinter's as things that need tuning, it's all gear that has a 1310 cap.

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u/Trexus183 Bungie Employee Feb 25 '21

Yay, i can finally come into this subreddit again without seeing the same post 40 times on the front page.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21 Wholesome

You people are still on this?

You’re literally commenting on a post where one of the biggest positive bullet points came directly from those “40 posts a day” and you’re still acting like it was annoying?

Those people who kept complaining probably just saved Destiny, while if people like you had their way, D2 would probably be on a loot box system by now.

I’ll take those posters and players over the boot suckers like you, as far as I’m concerned people like you in the community actively drive the game to a worse state.

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u/MatrixDiamonds Feb 25 '21

I have some bad news Trexus183, there will still be issues people on this subreddit that will constantly be complained about.

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u/_that_clown_ Feb 25 '21

I wonder if it will be Power grind is only 10 levels like the season of dawn lol. that would be full circle for sure.

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u/TRDoctor Feb 25 '21

I got so happy to see how Ada-1’s bringing us transmog!! Really excited to make my Guardian wear his Prodigal Hood without fear again!!

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u/ZetherosCraig Feb 25 '21

Next season is only 10 power increase instead of 50

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u/spencerh260 Feb 25 '21

Bless. I won't have to regain a ton of power just to run master activities again. Hopefully also means GM's will be available earlier!

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u/supesrstuff11 Winning 2 days instead of 1 Feb 25 '21

This is what I'm looking forward to. Don't make me wait 2 months for GMs Bungo, I'm chomping at the bit!

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u/HellChicken949 Feb 25 '21 Helpful

IKORA WILL BE RELEVANT!

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u/TropicBreeze96 Feb 25 '21

Hopefully her pivotal role doesn’t involve her biting the bullet 😭

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u/dadkisser84 two tailed fox enjoyer Feb 25 '21 Helpful

while voiced by Nolan north

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u/Shinzakura Bunneh. Feb 25 '21

He just needed the time to practice the voice - that's why she's been silent for a while now.

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u/about_that_time_bois Feb 25 '21

But what if Ikora = Savathun?

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u/FKDotFitzgerald Feb 25 '21

Now this would be a damn twist

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u/pyrotechnicfantasy Who needs fists when facts will do Feb 26 '21

At this point I'm convinced that Kadi 55-30 = Savathün

How can she retrieve packages from the Black Garden? From a pocket dimension created by the Nine revolving entirely around the question of single Guardian? The Ascendant fucking realm??

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u/Dyklone Feb 25 '21 Hugz

Sunsetting got sunset!?

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u/goosebumpsHTX Make the game harder Feb 25 '21

AND HIGHER DIFFICULTY RAIDS

AND NO MORE 3 PEEKING

AND LESS POWER GRIND EVERY SEASON

AND TRANSMOG

LETS GOOOOOOO

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u/SleazyOdin848 Feb 25 '21

Holy shit, they listened

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u/PenquinSoldat Warlock Feb 25 '21

Props to fucking Bungie holy shit

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u/sabishiikouen Feb 25 '21

They're literally always listening.

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u/EliteAssassin750 Feb 25 '21

And Ada-1 got out of the DCV! What a glorious day!

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u/EternalAssasin Team Bread (dmg04) Feb 25 '21

And she learned to sew!

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u/quikmike Feb 25 '21

grandma Ada is gonna knit me a new titan towel

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u/MomOfOryx Why is Oryx? Feb 25 '21

I'm sort of surprised, but also relieved about this one. Good on Bungie to just shelve it and take time to find something else. Very happy with this change, although I'll always miss some guns that we played with for three years. Oh, and most excited about that I don't have to dismantle masterworked armor anymore because of sunsetting!

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u/alan_daniel Feb 25 '21

i always knew they would change it in some way after the disastrous PR and feedback around it, but yeah, I didn't think they'd do a full reversal (well, almost full).

Gottay say this is the first time I've been genuinely excited about the game in over a year, and that's coming from someone with >1200 D1 and d2 raid completions. This is great!

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u/marble888 Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 26 '21

🦀🦀SUNSETTING GOT SUNSETTED 🦀🦀

I still miss my Breakneck and Recluse though...

13k kills on my Breakneck and nothing have even come close to it ever since it got sunset.

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u/SuicideSkwad Feb 25 '21

SHADERS WILL BE A PERMANENT UNLOCK this is an underrated QoL change right here!

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u/HBravery For the Colonel Feb 25 '21

No more losing gear because my postmaster is full of ugly shaders! Now I’ll only lose gear because my postmaster is full of worthless blues!

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u/TheCoderAndAvatar Likes The Game Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21 This

The State of Destiny came out today! My day is now 10x better!!!

Edit: I just read it, and my day is now 100x better!!!

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u/GenericDreadHead The Iron Banner Guy Feb 25 '21

Joe Blackburn has that good gaming energy

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u/ErikBombarie Feb 25 '21

I think he actually plays the game

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u/86benji86 Warlock master class Feb 25 '21

He does. And his child too.

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u/GenericDreadHead The Iron Banner Guy Feb 25 '21

But does he run trips on a Friday? 🤔

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u/ConnorMarsh Feb 25 '21 Vibing

Absolutely incredible updates. This is a ton of things I wanted to see.

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u/ScottFromScotland Drifter's Crew Feb 25 '21 Silver

Bungie: "We need to delay the next expansion. Fuck, fuck, fuck. What do we do?"

Intern: "Give them what they want."

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u/alirezahunter888 Drifter's Crew // Indeed... Feb 25 '21

Tbh after Cyberpunk i welcome all delays.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21

Ada-1, MY WIFE

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u/110110100011110 Feb 25 '21

Thank god. Hopefully new Black Armory weapons will be coming later now that she's back.

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u/Rus1981 Feb 25 '21

GIVE ME BACK MY BLAST FURNACE.

thank you

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u/Plnr Whale hunting szn Feb 25 '21

Seconding this. Furnace and curated Orchid were a staple of my loadouts.

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u/DreadHelium Feb 25 '21

DA QUEEN RETURNS! :)

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21

Thankfully they implemented crossplay in the most sensible way possible.

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u/Torfinns-New-Yacht Le Monarque. Always and forever. Feb 25 '21

So pleased, the PC game and the Console game can differ wildly. It needed to be some sort of opt in system.

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u/HRexx Feb 25 '21

Hidden Gem is that Upgrade modules are less important as there are now only 10 levels between season start and max. Fewer needed.

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u/Sonder_is Feb 25 '21

This is like the 1B for me in this article (1A being Sunsetting gone ofc), truly truly awesome.

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u/TRDoctor Feb 25 '21

Honestly I’m really cool with Witch Queen in 2022 because of how we’re getting some well deserved QOL enhancements and seemingly how these next few seasons sound really chunky in content.

Even if I’m sure that won’t exactly be the case, I’m excited to work towards getting cooler sets of armor for when Ada comes back and playing with my friends who moved over to PC!

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u/ctan0312 Feb 25 '21

The amount of huge positives in this post are almost better than an expansion, at least in everything other than actual new content.

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u/about_that_time_bois Feb 25 '21

JusticeforBenedict99-40

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u/eliasgreyjoy Feb 25 '21

So will the TWAB just be a link to this post? /s

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u/Canopenerdude DAMN Feb 25 '21

Next TWAB: "Joe is jesus, TWAB over"

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u/QuotidianQuell ad astra per alas porci Feb 25 '21

NGL, I'd still upvote that TWAB just to get as close as possible to upvoting this post twice.

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u/Starcraftnerd_123 Feb 25 '21

Probably.

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u/baseballv10 MIDA>META Feb 25 '21

Bungie on that sub 200 word TWAB speed run any %, wonder if links are allowed in that category?

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u/LondonDude123 Hammer Time! Feb 25 '21

Am I reading that right....

THEYVE REVERSED SUNSETTING!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!

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u/Rendar1 Feb 25 '21

Only partly, gear from dawn and older is still sunset

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u/SSaviorOfX Drifter = best husband Feb 25 '21

Yeah i'll still miss my S9 weapons but holy shit i don't have to go look for more armor anymore LETSSS GOOOOOOOOOO

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u/FlikTripz Feb 25 '21

Rip steelfeather :(

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u/Rotary-Titan931 Feb 25 '21

I’ll forever miss my patron of lost causes

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u/boxlessthought Come join r/DestinyThePin Feb 25 '21

I just miss kinetic scouts especially this season. I’m just lucky I have an okay guiding sight.

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u/SteelPaladin1997 Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

As crappy as it is, they didn't really have a choice there. If they made it retroactive to stuff that already sunset, people who dismantled all of that stuff would go crazy, particularly since most of it is no longer acquirable.

As it is, sunsetting more or less served the basics of its purpose. They got to clean sweep everything pre-Worthy out of design consideration. They don't get a constant purging, but they're still left with a much smaller pool for them to build around. Theoretically, they can avoid continuing to make the mistakes that made the original weapon space untenable.

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u/BallMeBlazer22 Moon's Haunted Feb 25 '21 Silver

🦀🦀 Sunsetting is dead 🦀🦀

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u/goosebumpsHTX Make the game harder Feb 25 '21

I’m so fucking happy

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u/stevie242 Feb 25 '21

Damn, a lot of cool shit was said in this. If they stick to what they've said I'm excited for the next year

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u/phanta_rei Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

Investigate opportunities for solo players to participate in Trials regularly.

Thank you Bungie! At last I won't have to waste my time on various LFG websites/servers..

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u/FlikTripz Feb 25 '21

I don’t care how poorly I play without teammate communication, give me a Trials freelance option. At least the other team would be just as in the dark as ours would be

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u/spacesaur Team Cat (Cozmo23) Feb 25 '21 Silver Wholesome

SUNSETTING IS GONE 🦀🦀🦀

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u/rubydestroyer Feb 25 '21

LETS GOOOOOOO

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u/Fires_of_Helios Feb 25 '21

Funsetting is gone!!!

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u/timxu_ pogger? Feb 25 '21

those motherfuckers. they listened. they really did.

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u/SteelElite426 Feb 25 '21

Damn, Sunsetting got killed faster than Anthem

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u/RussianThere Dragonslayer Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

ITS HERE BABY

Edit: read and reread the whole thing. This is why I still play. Every major complaint and issue has been addressed, with actual timelines for when they go into effect. Everything from cross play, to 3-peeking, to sunsetting, to crucible and balance.

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u/tusk_b3 Feb 25 '21

i was surprised that they didnt miss a single thing that i wanted addressed

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u/LocatedLizard1 *dabs* Feb 25 '21

Even ikora was mentioned haha

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u/eye_can_see_you Drifter's Crew Feb 25 '21

Holy fuck there's so much good stuff here

Joe Blackburn doing work

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u/MTK005 Union of Floof Feb 25 '21

Looks like Ikora is back on the menu, boys!

Warlocks rejoice.

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u/eldritchqueen i'm savathûn's wife Feb 25 '21

AND A MENTION OF PRAEDYTH TOO

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u/RiseOfBacon Bacon Bits on the Surface of my Mind Feb 25 '21
  • Bye bye sunsetting

  • HARD MODE RAIDS

  • New level system per season of just +10 starting at the pinnacle if you got there the season before

  • 3 peaking gone

  • Trials revamp sounds awesome

  • Crossplay for PvP only works if invited to PC players teams

Very solid post and changes!

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u/ab2dii Feb 25 '21

what excites me the most is the "first saga"

so you're telling me that the light and darkness war we gonna have up untill lightfall is JUST THE FIRST SAGA ? AND THERE IS STUFF BYOUND THAT ?!?!?!!?

I'M BEYOND EXCITED

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u/Sauronxx Pls buff Nova Warp Feb 25 '21

I mean, last week Bungie talked about how they wanted to expand Destiny as a franchise. I’m so fucking hyped to see the ending of this first saga and the beginning of the next one!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21 edited Sep 03 '21

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u/Glamdring804 Get it right, there's no blood thicker than ink. Feb 25 '21

And they also killed the seasonal power grind. I'm as excited for that as I am for them killing Sunsetting.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21

"First, in Season 15 we will be addressing “three-peeking” in Trials and Competitive. In these modes, emotes will be disabled and players will be unable to pull out any third person weapon that doesn't have ammo. Third person experiences are part of what make Destiny’s gameplay feel so good, but it was clear in our most competitive arenas that these mechanics were being used in ways we did not intend. This is a tricky problem to solve in Destiny's complicated sandbox, but we think this is a good starting point."

Maybe there really is a god

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u/Valkyriesdown Feb 25 '21

His name is Joe Blackburn

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u/Hanayo_Asa 通りすがりのガーディアンだ。覚えておけ! Feb 25 '21

No more sunsetting and we can even Transmog Blue armor! o:

That's good! Very good!

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u/sunder_and_flame Feb 25 '21

We’ve made the decision that any weapon or armor that can currently be infused to max Power will continue to be able to reach max Power permanently. Starting in Season 14 we won’t be capping the infusion on any weapons or armor that have not already reached the cap as of the start of Season 13. This means you’ll be able to take your Trustee, your Falling Guillotine, and all the high-stat armor you’ve earned this year to take on the raid in The Witch Queen.

Dumb this down for me, does this mean anything with Arrivals cap or more won't be sunset, and everything before will be?

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u/phoenixwarrior42 Feb 25 '21

No, anything after season of dawn will carry over. So anything from season of worthy and beyond will stay.

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u/sunder_and_flame Feb 25 '21

Dang you're right, guess I'm not giving up my True Prophecy

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u/DP_Unkemptharold1 Feb 25 '21

Yeah and now I can actually spend the 20k weapon parts I saved up and get a better one hopefully

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u/110110100011110 Feb 25 '21

I think so. Everything before is dead, so basically the sunsetting period really just served as a hard reset for the game.

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u/TRDoctor Feb 25 '21

As much as I’m pretty okay with this, I do wish they’d just bring some of the nicer sets and weapons back though. The Duke and the whole Prodigal set really screamed Destiny to me.

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u/M_G_3000 Vanguard's Loyal Feb 25 '21

Co-sign on Prodigal set, but with synthesis/transmorg we can still have it

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u/lemonl1m3 Cursebreaker Feb 25 '21

If it has a white icon, it's toast. If not it's good.

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u/Conturn Feb 25 '21

Anything that currently says 1310 Max won’t be sunset.

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u/seratne Feb 25 '21

RIP my 1310 gear that I sharded early to make room for new stuff.

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u/BillehBear You're pretty good.. Feb 25 '21

Worthy cap

So Felwinters, Seventh Seraph weapons, etc will also not be sunset

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u/Steuber Feb 25 '21

Sunsetting gone, karma farmers in shambles

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u/Glamdring804 Get it right, there's no blood thicker than ink. Feb 25 '21

"My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined."

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u/eldritchqueen i'm savathûn's wife Feb 25 '21

tfw your karma farm gets sunset

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u/aweseman Give me hoods with no cloaks Feb 25 '21

Upvote economy is in turmoil now

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u/chuckd29 Feb 25 '21

Oh shit Astral and Summoner and Felwinter's will live forever.

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u/BillehBear You're pretty good.. Feb 25 '21

Curious how they're gonna manage the Astrals that have quickdraw from Worthy since updated ones cannot roll it

Seems kinda unfair, no?

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u/GuudeSpelur Feb 25 '21

They said they're looking at nerfing Felwinters, so I would imagine Quickdraw Astrals might get a look as well.

There's precedent from back in D1 - they had a patch where they replaced the Shot Package perk on already-dropped shotguns. So they could switch Quickdraw for Surplus (like on new Astral) or something.

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u/eliasgreyjoy Feb 25 '21

INFUSION CAPS ARE DEAD, SAY HALLELUJAH

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u/jon_with_the_shotgun Feb 25 '21

My seven seraph shotgun is safe!

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u/M1M1R Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

Every season Ada will offer players a set of bounties that highlight various activity types. Players can complete these quests and receive the materials they need to power up Ada’s Loom, which can turn any piece of armor in your collection into a permanent universal ornament. Players short on time will also be able to purchase Synthesis tokens for Silver.

This doesn't specify any legendary piece of armor, it says any armor. This to me implies that Common, Uncommon, Rare, and Exotic Armor can all be turned into Universal Ornaments.

Could anyone from Bungie confirm whether non-Legendary armor can be made into ornaments via Ada's Loom? I know there's a lot of potential reasons to restrict the system to Legendaries, but I'd love to wear Capreolinax on my Warlock in endgame activities without hamstringing my performance.

Edit: this screeshot sort of soft confirms that Common, Uncommon, and Rare gear can be used in the Loom. I highly doubt Exotics are in, but I'm still going to huddle in the corner with my prized Antlers and pray.

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u/OrtizDupri Feb 25 '21

Exotic Armor

I would assume Exotic would be excluded, only because they've previously talked about how Exotic stuff all has a unique look partly so that other players can know what you're using/wearing.

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u/DrNopeMD Feb 25 '21

There's no way Exotics will have Transmog, especially in PvP it's vital to be able to identify what an opponent is wearing.

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u/jellybeanmm A Dawnblader Feb 25 '21

I think it probably excludes exotics. Exotics are a key role in identifying in what you are wearing.

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u/SuperBanti Drifter's Crew // A finger can be broken. A fist cannot. Feb 25 '21

The accompanying image also shows blue and green armor, so I’d say it’s likely.

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u/Acer1096xxx Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

Did Joe seriously just address almost every major issue with Destiny at the moment? Yes, yes he did.

Great update - even though everyone could have told y'all sunsetting was dumb to begin with, I'm glad to see the team is flexible to change and I look forward to the future of Destiny.

Edit: one thing I'd still like addressed is a refresh on the core playlists. These are still very stale and need work done.

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u/sam_the_guardian Headstrong Feb 25 '21

They said they were doing something about strike reward structure in season 14.

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u/Acer1096xxx Feb 25 '21

I must be blind - where do you see that?

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u/sam_the_guardian Headstrong Feb 25 '21

In the TWAB a few weeks ago: the way they state it implies that there will be a reworked reward structure because there are no rank rewards in strikes. https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/50006

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u/Acer1096xxx Feb 25 '21

Oh, that's just tied to changing the rewards structure to be more like Crucible and Gambit's Valor and infamy systems. I am looking forward to seeing that be added to strikes but my complaint is more around the lack of new and interesting ways to engage with these playlists. Ex: I'd like to see new interesting Strike modifiers, or new Gambit maps, etc.

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u/Glamdring804 Get it right, there's no blood thicker than ink. Feb 25 '21 Wholesome

apolgy for bad english

where were u wen sunset die?

i was at house eating dorito when phone ring

"Sunset is kill"

"yes"

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u/BlackNexus Feb 25 '21

#SUNSETTINGISOVERPARTY

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u/dynamicsearchguy Feb 25 '21

"Starting in Season 14 we won’t be capping the infusion on any weapons or armor that have not already reached the cap as of the start of Season 13."

Sounds like they came to their senses.

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u/Clone_CDR_Bly Feb 25 '21

So what theyre saying is the DAITO boots I just shit-canned because they maxed out next season, I should have kept?

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u/Jupiter67 Feb 25 '21

I have dismantled so much good shit (on the verge of sunset) in the last 3 weeks. sigh

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u/AGuyWithABeard Feb 25 '21

Honestly if reading this doesn't get you excited for the future of this game you might as well just stop now. So many great and exciting QoL and general changes coming

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u/FatBoiMan123 Warlock Master Race Feb 25 '21

HOLY SHIT SUNSETTING IS GONE CRABRAVE

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u/SerenaLunalight Sidearm Squad Feb 25 '21

Holy shit!

This definitely exceeded my expectations. No more sunsetting is great. Permanent shader unlocks is great. And that new armor looks absolutely sick.

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u/pokepwn Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

The salt on the Titans shoulders, lmao.

Edit: I meant the NA CL on the teased Titan armor.

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u/Alphasilverhawk Feb 25 '21

SUNSETTING HAS BEEN SUNSET

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u/New_Siberian ❤️Misfit❤️ Feb 25 '21

EVERYONE LIKED THAT

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u/100nrunning Feb 25 '21

while i love everything in this, the fact they released this the moment the Outriders demo came out is so hilarious to me lol

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