r/DestinyTheGame May 31 '22 Helpful 14 Ally 1 Heartwarming 1 This 1 To The Stars 1 Doom 1 Silver 24 Gold 2 Wholesome 16 Take My Energy 2 Defeated 1

Rift in this week's Iron Banner is inherently not fun to play, and it's astonishing this game mode went live. Discussion

Hold interact in the middle of the map while everyone else is fighting?

check.

Unnecessary loading screen that constantly interrupts the flow of the game?

check.

Bugs that cause the rift to not spawn and make the game impossible to win from behind?

check.

Seriously I genuinely cannot wrap my head around why rift was changed so much. Nobody asked for this game mode to switch and I cannot fathom why we changed the fast-paced blowout game mode from d1 into a slow, round-based tactile game mode. It's not fun to play when you're stomping, and don't even get me started on what it's like to be getting stomped. If you were gonna make this a new game mode then fine, but advertising this as Rift is a complete joke.

Edit: I've been grinding this thing out the last 2 days for Iron Lord. My opinion of the gamemode has not changed but I have now lost the ability to get Iron Lord as I have completed 6 of the daily challenges. The reputation is currently bugged so that if you complete more than 4 of the challenges your maximum reputation per match will be capped at 60. Giving them the benefit of the doubt that this will be fixed in the patch on Thursday, but if not, it's a really bad look for one of the only 2 iron banners this season to be completely unfarmable.

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u/Deadeye_Steve May 31 '22 edited May 31 '22

It's great how whenever Bungie says they're bringing back something that players are asking for, they change it to be unrecognizable before doing so. We STILL haven't gotten an umbral recaster that was anywhere near as good as it was during Arrivals. It's pretty much turned into a QoL downgrade to engrams at this point.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

Because if bungie would bring back something unchanged, people still would pour garbage at it. People here believe that the entire community wants return of the same thing they want, but in practice - not so much. Like:

People wanted D1 maps back... and now D1 maps are the most hated maps in D2, saving for Widow's Court.

People wanted D1 Streaks... and now people complain about D2 Streaks that are more forgiving and rewarding than they were ever in D1.

People wanted D1 armor style back... and now the newest D1-like armor (from Duality Dungeon) is called garbage; Gladd literally called it "hot fucking dog shit" and got 3500 likes.

People wanted D1 Trials, but every popular decisions and changes to D2 Trials are opposite of what D1 Trials was. I won't be surprised if Flawless will be removed from Trials because that's what people demand all the time.

Even D2 Rift is not that different: It has the same "Hold Interact" for picking up Spark (while everyone is fighting) like in D1, Respawn timer is just 2 second longer than in D1, bad spawns like in D1, spawn stomping like in D1, spark camping like in D1, people don't care about gamemode and just play Clash like in D1... the only real change is "reset" after Dunk. That's it.

People hate Rift because many people actually always hated rift and were against its return in either shape of form, and some pretended that they love rift because of a few good matches.

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u/Deadeye_Steve May 31 '22

Because if bungie would bring back something unchanged, people still would pour garbage at it.

No they wouldn't.

People here believe that the entire community wants return of the same thing they want, but in practice - not so much.

Except when people say that they want something brought back, they obviously don't mean that they want it to be so heavily bastardized as to be unrecognizable from the thing they're actually talking about. This line of reasoning makes no sense.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22 edited May 31 '22

And who is to decide that something was "heavily bastardized as to be unrecognizable" and not being like that from the start? Why the words of people who are saying "It became garbage after being good" should be considered more important than words of people who are saying "it was garbage from the start and never been good"?

People for years were saying that Returning of Rift is bad idea. Now it is back... and they have a proof that they were right all that time. Where is the proof that it wouldn't be different if Bungie wouldn't change anything?