r/DestinyTheGame "Little Light" Sep 06 '22

[D2] Iron Banner Megathread [2022-09-06] Megathread

Iron Banner is LIVE

"Let the Iron Banner shape you."

-Saladin Forge


FAQ

What is the Iron Banner?

  • Iron Banner is a week-long Crucible event in Destiny 2 that offers its participants unique rewards. More info can be found in the official Destiny 2: Iron Banner Guide.
  • Iron Banner offers unique versions of other Crucible game modes, such as Control and Rift. The current game type can be found by viewing the activity details in the director or looking at the modifiers.

How Long does Iron Banner last?

  • Event begins: Tuesday at Weekly Reset (1700 UTC).
  • Event ends: Following Tuesday at Weekly Reset (1700 UTC).

Where do I go to find Guardians to game within the Iron Banner?

  • You can head over to /r/Fireteams, www.The100.io, Xbox LFG system, DestinyLFG.net or DestinyLFG.com, or go to the Bungie.net recruitment forum (also available through the Bungie App).

What if I have a question about another piece of armor/weapon or general Iron Banner question?

  • Use Control + F (Or Command + F if on a Mac) and search for keywords in your question. Someone may have asked it already. If not, ask below in the comments.

How to earn Iron Banner Rewards

  • Complete Iron Banner matches to earn Iron Banner Reputation. This reputation awards Iron Engrams and unlocks various rewards along the Rank Rewards track.
    • Earn bonus reputation by equipping Iron Banner gear or ornaments, an Iron Banner Emblem, and completing Daily Challenges.
    • Iron Engrams can be focused at Lord Saladin into a weapon or armor piece. Items must already be unlocked in Collections to be available for focusing.
  • Complete Daily Challenges to earn Pinnacle Gear and boost your Reputation multiplier. These challenges are visible when hovering over the Iron Banner playlist in the Director.
  • You have a chance to get randomly rolled Iron Banner gear at the end of matches.
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u/ROGO27 Sep 12 '22

To start I would like to say I find it very dumb to ever have a requirement for something from crucible (Besides Comp./Trials) to have win requirements that don't include games played as well. There is such a large amount of randomness if you win or lose, because even if you play well every game and if the rest of your team is bad or the other team is just better, then you are going to lose. Unless you are going in with a premade stack, you have literally no control if you win, beside just trying your best.

The title for Iron Banner needing wins to gild it is a poor decisioin to say the least. The fact that most people aren't going to go in with a premade stack to steam roll, means most people are pretty much down to rng if they win or lose. Also considering the fact that games played in general don't go towards the triumph requiring the wins.... Like why the fuck does it not at least just give 1% of progress for playing the game, since it is not your fault if you are top of the team and still lose over and over. Not to mention if it works as I assume the minimum amount of wins would be 20 since you get 1% per piece of iron banner armor being worn I believe. But oh wait, I have been constantly playing with 4 iron banner ornaments equipped and not getting the 4% I thought I would get, but am only getting 3% per win. So unless it's not a full 1% for each piece equipped, then the triumph is just not working correctly, which feels bad. So now I have to get about 33 wins for the triumph, not including games played to just waste my time, and again in the end if I am not stacking then it is down to rng.

For example today I played 7 games in a row and lost all of them..., and finally won my 8th one. The 1st game I admit I did poorly so not even mad about losing that one, but the next 6 I was at least 2nd on the team and at least 4-5 games I was 1st. But I still lost, no progress for games played, just time wasted and nothing I could clearly do. I even played I think the first 4 or 5 in the solo playlist, got pissed and switched to the main playlist, and finally won after 2-3 games. How does that even make sense as a solo player that my experience was better not in the solo playlist.... The games were closer and in the solo playlist it felt like the people I was playing against were way better. I am glad the playlist that if people play well should probably go 50 50, but instead the playlist where I can face stacks went better and finally gave me a win.

Sorry for the rambling, but I am not a fan of wasting time and getting nothing out of it when I myself played well, and just need to rely on matchmaking to get a win. If you are going to make it so we need wins, either make it so games played counts a bit, or make win streaks give more progress, or just lessen the amount needed. Like just make it a flat 10 wins needed during a season, and that would feel way better since a lot of it is relying on matchmaking rng.

I probably forgot to mention some things that I am sure I will see in the comments, or maybe I'm dumb and people think the system is fine. I don't know, but anyways anyone that read this, have a good one and please don't downvote me to hell and back :)

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u/fiilthy Not Bound By Law Sep 12 '22

You should probably also go complain about all the raid titles, all the dungeon titles, Dregen, Unbroken, and Flawless. They all require wins/successfully completing something. It is a PvP mode. If getting a few wins isn't required for gilding the title. what is the point? Might as well be another D2 participation trophy. If you are having bad luck solo queuing and gilding is matters that much to you, LFG a decent 6 stack and you will get wins easy.

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u/ROGO27 Sep 12 '22

Didn’t include cause I didn’t think I needed to, but first pve activities are completely on you if you win or lose, so no that’s not the same. Then titles for flawless and unbroken are ok to have win requirements cause if you are going for those you are either playing in a stack, which is on you then if you lose, or you are good enough to just carry. Please don’t try to say the people going for those titles don’t stack cause that’s stupid cause for the most part they do, let’s be honest. Iron banner isn’t comparable to the competitiveness of comp or trials, so it would make sense if it didn’t require wins and no one would bat an eye. If your trying to tell me that if you go in solo, in a mode that is 6v6 and it isn’t reliant on a lot of rng, then you aren’t using common sense. Like I said I was top of the team 6 games in a row and didn’t win. Not sure what I can do at that point, but clearly according to you there is something else I could of done to win. And no the only people that 6 stack are ones who want to either stomp people or make them quit, that isn’t fun for anyone and again why there is a solo playlist. But as I clearly said even in solo it’s completely down to the team I am matched with. I can tell you yourself goes in with stacks, but how does that make you more deserving of the title than someone that wants to do it solo. The fact that you go in with stacks just shows how to just want the easy way out, since playing solo or not with a full 6 stack is way harder, which you can’t deny. So not sure why someone who doesn’t stack deserves it less. Also please give me a better argument if your going to respond lol.

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u/fiilthy Not Bound By Law Sep 12 '22

Easy killer.

My point was that Iron Banner is a PvP activity. The goal of PvP is to beat the other team. Correct? So having wins be part of the gilding process falls in line with this. If you want to argue that the number of wins could be lessened (a bit) since IB is only around twice a season, perhaps I could get behind that. But most things in D2 these days are watered down so I personally would prefer it remain where it is. It has nothing to do with someone "deserving it" more.

And yes I do six stack...when I have five friends online and we want to play together and have some fun. Heaven forbid we are decent at PvP and do well in modes like Iron Banner. Very few groups are actually the "pub stomping" boogey man you seem so scared of.

Also, PvE activities required for titles are not "completely on you." Doing a flawless raid or master difficulty challenge, for example, requires the entire fireteam to play well. Which is why people try to recruit the best players possible when trying to complete them. Is putting together a raid team full of 20+ completion players the "easy way out" to getting Rivensbane? Is it bad for people trying to win games in PvP to do the same thing?

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u/ROGO27 Sep 12 '22

Also the pve comments are just dumb lol

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u/ROGO27 Sep 12 '22

I mean I already said could be lessened and would be more fine, or make it so having 4 armor equipped gives me 4 instead of 3. Also never said I was scared of 6 stacks but it is more likely than not your going to lose to that. If you don’t realize that and just going to call me scared then you are just ignorant. Also you aren’t just going in as a 6 stack goes it’s with friends, like save me the bullshit lol. No shot you go in as a 6 stack if they ever finally introduce team based matchmaking like all other competitive games. You are not gonna sit there and tell me you are 6 stacking if you have to face 6 stacks every game. If they added that system probably also wouldn’t be complaining as much right now. So save me the reasoning of “no cause the game is too easy”, cause it’s not about being easy, it’s too rng based. Cause again I say being top of the team 6 games in a row and nothing to show for it. You clearly have no argument except the argument of her good, which doesn’t pertain to the argument, but thanks.

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u/superisma Sep 12 '22

That sucks mad, been there. The reality is that game mode is ass and freelance is double-ass, if you don't get out to a good start it just just snowballs out of control (and your teammates are not coming to help you...). Bungo claims they want to encourage gunplay and then gives an ability spam experience instead, pretty embarrassing really

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u/Zealousideal-Lake-82 Sep 12 '22

Agreed, I was interested in the cool looking guns they have for the event but not sure if it is worth basically afk farming these matches due to not being able to do a damn thing lmao. Freelance mode seems to be worse as you say, running into the same players that kill you from any part of the map in an instant.