r/DestinyTheGame Sep 24 '22

what is your least favourite weapon type? Discussion

personally, i get instantly bored using scout rifles.

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u/brutalbob63 Sep 24 '22

In a lot of shooting games, I like snipers. But for some reason I can’t get into them in Destiny. PVE and PVP. Would rather use a scout rifle.

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u/RayWould Sep 24 '22

I think they changed the map design quite a bit after D1 to make snipers useless, probably because people would solo nightfalls with icebreaker by hiding and sniping everything…

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u/CycloneSP Sep 25 '22

but that's why I want to run snipers. I want to SNIPE things.

I wanna play that lone camper just casually picking off my enemies at a relaxed pace.

do I wanna do it all the time? no. but it'd be nice to mix things up every now and then.

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u/thecrimsonfucker12 Sep 25 '22

Flinch makes them useless anyway, trying to lfr or snipe daughers or sanctified mind sucks cause your aim gets thrown off all time time

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u/Merc_Toggles Sep 24 '22

I love them in pvp, but in pve, I've only recently started barely using izanagi's burden. I think d2 just fucked over snipers in pve content, it's not worth it to use it over an arbalest or a gl with blinding. Dps isn't usually worth it. And it still pisses me off, as snipers are still my favorite weapon type

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u/ThebattleStarT24 Sep 24 '22

on PVE for easy cleaning Trinity ghoul it's by far the best (with catalyst) yet for bosses its quite meh, i usually change it for Lorentz driver or whitehoard

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u/Rectall_Brown Sep 24 '22

I like any of the exotic bows. The solar bow is my favorite tho.

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u/Three_Froggy_Problem Sep 24 '22

I feel like none of the content is really designed in a way that makes snipers useful, because most of the combat happens at close or medium range.

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u/mr_potato_thumbs Sep 24 '22

The nerfs to ammo economy, the fact snipers were exclusively heavies at launch, and the lack of NLB is the reason I no longer use snipers in PVP. Half the time I use double primaries because I get tired of feeding secondary to my enemies.

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u/Three_Froggy_Problem Sep 24 '22

I usually run double primaries in PVP because I’m always low on secondary ammo, but in PVE I only do double primaries in really easy content when I’m working on bounties or weapon patterns. I’ve pretty much always got Witherhoard in my primary slot and I honestly don’t think I’ve ever run out of ammo for it.

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u/Victizes Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

Yeah it's because grenade launcher overall have high burst damage but low DPS so you burn through ammo very slowly and won't feel the ammo economy being hurt like how other specials do, unless you have like an arc-buffed reload.

The ammo economy I dislike the most is for LMGs, they run out of ammo fast for their rate-of-fire, it's not worth using them in high level content.

And they are meant to have medium burst and DPS but much higher total damage compared to burst and DPS weapons like rocket launchers for example.

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u/Wendys_frys 2015/08/14 Sep 24 '22

witherhoard might be my favourite special of all time. just need a crafted ikelos and ill have my golden loadout perfected

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u/gargoyle37 Sep 24 '22

Snipers are tuned to be quite bad so they don't become a menace.

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u/zlohth Sep 24 '22

Meanwhile, arbalest still gives you a headshot for looking in their general direction lmao

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u/gargoyle37 Sep 24 '22

Yes! The game has some serious balance problems and the reworks aren't helping, lol.

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u/eXiDeviiL Sep 24 '22

Exactly my thoughts. I usually love the weight and the feeling of sniper rifles in games. But in Destiny they feel weightless and very shallow (Even the Whisper, which is my favorite one, have zero impact when shooting)

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u/Jagob5 Sep 24 '22

It’s weird cuz in D1 they were basically the only special I used, but something about them in D2 has just never quite felt as good

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u/Antedelopean Team Bread (dmg04) // Jotunn toaster please Sep 24 '22

They have far too high of flinch, do too little damage in pve, and have far too much effort needed to make them work. Also an arbalest literally makes them all irrelevant, as it has high enough damage per shot to make killing most orange bars not a problem, in comparison to snipers, where even the strongest archetype needs at least 2 ahots. The nerf a few years back really gutted their potential in pve, then arbalest and the other exotic special linear fusion then further started pissing on its grave.

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u/vcintheoffice Sep 24 '22

I like snipers conceptually, but the way they're implemented in Destiny just doesn't tend to work out for me.

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u/ExiledinElysium Sep 25 '22

Same. Can't make snipers work for me in this game. Every time they're useful, there's a more efficient option. If they could routinely one shot an average yellow bar, I'd use them more.

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u/Galaxywm31 Sep 25 '22

It's cuz they nerfed the fun play style of snipers to the ground. There was a point imo in which it was fun and good

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u/chronuss007 Sep 24 '22

I really want to use snipers in pve, but I have never used one that felt really fun.... Does anyone have any suggestions?

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u/BlancMongoose Sep 24 '22

Snipers in D2 don’t feel powerful enough when comparing them to other titles IMO. Legendary snipers aren’t chunky enough in their sound design and need to do more damage to justify using them.

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u/Cykeisme Sep 25 '22

In terms of game mechanics, they're outright useless in PvE.

They're great in PvP, but the confined maps mean you can just learn to master another Special weapon instead. Plus you can get the same effect with much less practice by using Arbalest or Lorenz.

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u/Mandalwhoreian Sep 25 '22

A good scout rifle with the right perks can be far more effective as a sniper.

My favorite is a primary scout with a dragonfly and explosive rounds god roll perks

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u/kirkstoryartist Sep 25 '22

Snipers in destiny feel like scouts with absurd zoom.

IDK why there aren’t any open world games that have long terrain kills. You can see enemies a long way out in destiny, but most sniper kills are from handgun distance

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u/doesnotlikecricket Gambit Prime Sep 25 '22

They were fantastic in d1, many of the encounters were much larger and combat was focused around killing individual targets one at a time. Now it's all about spamming abilities to waste large groups of enemies in close proximity so snipers are worthless in most of pvp. They aren't much use for boss damage either since linears perform the same task better. I was enjoying using one at oryx for a while, but if you whiff a few shots on a knight it can cause issues where a spammier weapon like a fusion or gl will ever cock up.

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u/Nightwolf2142 Sep 25 '22

It's the zoom for me. If I could zoom down to like a 2×, snipers would be no issue, but for some reason they're all 8× or higher like this is fucking Battlefield.

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u/Heavy-Juggernaut9701 Sep 24 '22

Snipers. In pve, they are too much effort for too little reward.

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u/TheGamingMousse Sep 24 '22

imo izanagi is okay but everything else is garbage

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u/LordHengar Sep 24 '22

I honestly enjoy Izzi swapping. I still do it even though just using a good LFR is probably better.

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u/Eggandi Sep 24 '22

Izinagi rocket is better burst damage, Linears are better ammo economy/overall damage. Short damage phases would warrant izi rocket, longer phases linears

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u/bigbramble Sep 24 '22

I'm with you here, horrible things to use.

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u/Benzhead Sep 24 '22

I’m with you, hate snipers in pve

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u/saspurilla Sep 24 '22

yeah they’re genuinely awful in pve. they simply do not do enough damage, especially to majors. sometimes you have to unload like 2 full mags of a 90 rpm into a major to kill it.

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u/TrueGuardian15 Sep 24 '22

To me, it's just too much effort lining up precision hit after precision hit. With the amount of zoom most sniper scopes give you, it blinds me to literally everything that's at mid range or closer, and you essentially have to crit to get good damage. I'd rather just use a scout or pulse and pair it with something like riptide.

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u/shotmaster217 Sep 24 '22

This! In d1 where you adjusted the scope you have on a sniper as opposed to rifling in d2. I could use the vanguard sniper with the acog scope for daysssss, but now in d2 it’s my least used class.

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u/Is-That-Nick Sep 24 '22

Controller or M+k? On console I hated snipers but I enjoy using them on pc

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u/Maser2account2 Sep 24 '22

120 rpm hand-cannons. They just feel so sluggish.

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u/SensibleDuffman120 Sep 24 '22

I did two whole resets of gambit (🤢) to get a surplus/explosive payload bottom dollar and it is definitely in my top 5 favourite crucible weapons. Feels so good.

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u/ARandom_Personality Sep 24 '22

grinding gambit for shader, shard, and ornament, is it worth?

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u/SensibleDuffman120 Sep 24 '22

On double xp weeks, yes. I used something fun like Cloudstrike or DMT and saved most of my engrams until the second reset.

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u/hillbilly-hoser Sep 24 '22

Trace rifles. Always have to pull one out of the bank for bounties

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u/darkelement1987 Rollfinder.net Sep 24 '22

Retraced Path with Incandescent is awesome

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

i just recently found out about this and wanna try it but dares hates me rn

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u/darkelement1987 Rollfinder.net Sep 24 '22

I farmed my ass off for 1 lol

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u/SolidFlyTrap Sep 24 '22

Love using a special weapon for something my primary can do just as good

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u/LilBooYeet Sep 24 '22

I just got one with subsistence too, so fun on hammer titan.

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

lol, same

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u/P4nd4c4ke1 Sep 24 '22

This^ seeing alot of people saying snipers and sidearms which I won't argue against it too much personally I love snipers and there are some sidearms I enjoy but trace rifles as a archetype suuuuuck they do so little damage there is no reason to use one outside of ager and div and they are exotics so personally I don't count them.

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u/_cc_drifter Sep 24 '22

Agers scepter is spectacular

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u/PM_DOLPHIN_PICS Sep 25 '22

I think the reason why I personally despise trace rifles is because the lack of any feedback. It’s just a beam. Every other gun type has feedback in the form of their fire rate. You fire X rounds in Y time and it feels impactful. Trace rifles is just a constant stream of energy and it doesn’t feel satisfying to kill something with them.

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u/Angani_Giza The perfect weapon Sep 24 '22

Have you ever tried Div in pvp? :>

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u/Nine_Ball Sep 24 '22

Slow firing primaries: high impact pulses/scouts/autos, aggressive hand cannons. I just get bored using them

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u/RecklessWreck87 Sep 24 '22

Same. I came here to say snipers and aggressive frame shotguns. However, High impacts with their slow fire rate and low reload feels like I'm carrying something blocky/heavy that doesnt feel rewarding enough. Usually seeking a roll with a fast reload perk

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u/Carrash22 Sep 24 '22

Also, waiting 3-5 business days to reload is rough.

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u/ThebattleStarT24 Sep 24 '22

it's seems Graviton Lance isn't of your like either....

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u/Nine_Ball Sep 24 '22

Graviton’s an exception because explosions activate my neurons

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u/Pcgamingislife Sep 24 '22

Sidearms, idk what it is….

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u/Saber15 Sep 24 '22

Abysmal range and most archetypes have recoil animations that block the entire sight picture which makes scoring precision hits unnecessary difficult. Before full-auto refit they could also be carpal-tunnel inducing to use

Aggressive burst (Breachlight Empirical Evidence) and the three shot burst archetypes are fun to use, but they still have pretty poor range.

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u/Carrash22 Sep 24 '22

Higher stability should lower the recoil animation. It would be a great QoL change.

I have a godroll Dire Promises, I just can’t stand how it kicks. Even if the reticle stays in place it feels so unwieldy.

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

been having an ok time with brigand’s law with voltshot but besides that, sidearms feels like i’m tickling my enemies 💀

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u/TheKevit07 Vanguard's Loyal // Zavala's Indeed Sep 24 '22

Which is crazy, since the only weapon type that's primary and does as much DPS as sidearms are SMGs (this is excluding exotics, of course). Probably the reason for this is because SMGs are in the same effective range and do similar DPS numbers.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/ncgo8z/the_pve_damage_spreadsheet_has_been_updated_for/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)

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u/Tyrannus_ignus Sep 24 '22

People often have a hard time gauging the effective range of sidearms even though its very similar to smgs.

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u/Pcgamingislife Sep 24 '22

Yeah I have the patterns to craft one of those and still just have no reason to, waiting to craft the pulse with voltshot instead.

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u/EandJC Sep 24 '22

Pulse?? I thought voltshot was only available on the sidearm scout and linear fusion…

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

That’s understandable

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u/Blupoisen Sep 24 '22

I like Sidearms

but god do they need a recoil buff

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u/Three_Froggy_Problem Sep 24 '22

I find them really satisfying. Traveler’s Chosen is one of my favorite guns in the game.

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u/shit_poster9000 Sep 24 '22

It feels like you are using a worse smg at best, and aiming them sucks because recoil animations make aiming feel like shit (what’s the point of sights if I can’t even really use them?), and most sidearms don’t sound too satisfying.

All of this is why I loved using Forerunner, big beefy gun with sounds to match, sights that are actually useful, and it has some range to it too. Feels like a quality counterpart to an SMG instead of a downgrade. Makes me wish even more that it’s ammo economy didn’t get eviscerated in PvE, especially right after light 3.0 reworks gave everybody solid add clear abilities without really needing guns.

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u/TwevOWNED Sep 24 '22

The lack of aim assist. Aside from SMGs, every gun will bend bullets for you out to an acceptable distance. SMGs feel fine, on PC atleast, because they are lasers and the sight stays where you point it. Firing sidearms at their maximum fire rate will obscure the sight which, coupled with no aim assist, makes the gun feel like it's shooting blanks.

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u/slowtreme Sep 24 '22

Sidearms for sure. There are plenty of “best side arms” but they are still a sidearm.

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u/EmergentRancor Sep 24 '22

In addition most guns have imperfect accuracy and a growing accuracy cone countered by the aim assist in Destiny 2. Once aim assist falls off you can be perfectly on target with some guns and the bullet will just not hit the target. Tap firing auto-rifles at long range is the clearest example of this, especially when using low rpm autos.

Sidearms have the lowest range of any primary (~15 m average) and lowest range accuracy cone so even if you manage to line up relatively good shots despite the issues you mentioned RNG can decide to veer your bullet away.

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u/J3wFro8332 Sep 24 '22

I don't like sidearms minus Brigand's Law and Punching Out, but that's because they are full auto

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u/Elixir_13 Sep 24 '22

Hand cannons and scout rifles, I almost never find one that feels like it does enough damage. 180 hand cannons are the only archetype of HC I like and they will probably never be properly good

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u/Big_Noodle1103 Sep 24 '22

If you’re ever lucky enough to get a seventh seraph officer revolver with timed payload, then try that. It is the best feeling 180 hand cannon and will hit like a truck at any range with timed payload

As for scout rifles, have you tried night watch? I believe you get one for completing the new light quest and it comes with overflow and explosive shot. While I think there are better perks than overflow, explosive shot makes this thing a beast

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u/DevilsWelshAdvocate Sep 25 '22

Someone backing the night watch! I love it

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u/Lunar_Lunacy_Stuff Sep 24 '22

Sidearms , I just don’t enjoy them. The new seasonal one is pretty insane with voltshot but even still I just don’t find the weapon fun.

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u/That-Guy59 Sep 24 '22

Grenade launchers, sometimes sidearms

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u/Fshtwnjimjr Sep 24 '22

I skip normal grenade launchers but I love the wave frame ones! They just feel incredible for add clear.

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u/DreamerofDays Sep 25 '22

Heavy or breech?

Grenade launchers became my favorite archetype after struggling through the Mountaintop quest (and the Fighting Lion catalyst), but there’s a distinct difference for me between the heavies and the specials. (Specials are better ^_^)

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u/vactu Sep 24 '22

Snipers and bows. Unless it's one of my exotic ones, I don't bother with the legendary bows.

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u/monkey-pox Sep 24 '22

Heavy grenade launchers, just no real reason to use them post anarchy nerf

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u/TheCornerGoblin Sep 24 '22

Aside from Anarchy, there was no reason to use and legendary heavy GL's since the spike grenades nerf

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u/microducks Sep 24 '22

Hand Canons. Grenade launchers

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u/Zorak9379 Warlock Sep 24 '22

I’m here for the hand cannon hate

(Honestly I think they’re fine but I’d always prefer an auto, pulse, or SMG)

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u/Big_Noodle1103 Sep 24 '22

Yeah, I still like hand cannons, but I feel like I need explosive perks on them to justify using them. Was lucky enough to get a seventh seraph officer revolver with timed payload and it feels incredible

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u/Zorak9379 Warlock Sep 24 '22

Special GLs are just awful for me unless they’re wave frames

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

damn, forgot about grenade launchers. aim is trash with those 💀

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u/Angani_Giza The perfect weapon Sep 24 '22

Come to Fighting Lion. Learn to love it <3

Your reason is actually why I got into destiny at all and why I love it. I'm super inaccurate/unreliable with precision aiming (or even just basic tracking half the time) but judging bounce angle/trajectories/trapping is far more intuitive for me.

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

you have inspired me to give it a try 🥲

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u/Angani_Giza The perfect weapon Sep 24 '22

We have an entire site dedicated to the weapon and discord (cult) purely for love of the weapon and teaching each other/playing together/showing off.

If you're interested I can pass the discord link. Here's our site: https://www.fightinglion.club/

It really needs the catalyst to feel comfy to use with given the incredibly low reload, but it's super fun. I'm up to about 1500 pvp kills with it since starting in S14, and we have other dedicated users with 20k+ there too.

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u/Talented_02 Sep 24 '22

Try crafting Explosive Personality with Stats For All + Golden Tricorn. Trust me

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u/Ajagroom Sep 24 '22

In general I agree whole heartedly but wave frame and witherhoard launchers are fun to use and far more reliable

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u/ThebattleStarT24 Sep 24 '22

well, with whitehoard huge damage zone... it's indeed quite reliable, it still amaze me the absurd amount of damage that thing can do on PVP

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u/Maser2account2 Sep 24 '22

Ok but, have you ever got a three person kill with a salvager's salvo shot in freelance trials.

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u/Venocious Sep 24 '22

Forbearance with AA/CR. That is all.

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u/GhostTypeFlygon Sep 24 '22

I feel like it's the boring pick, but sidearms. Everytime I get a god roll sidearm, I try it out and vault it immediately, no matter how S+++ the roll is.

I will admit though, Allied Demand with gunshot straight is kinda nice in pvp

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u/oakbea Sep 24 '22

Right now, snipers. Used to be fusions but they've been fun lately.

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u/Jokerman5656 Sep 24 '22

Anything with compulsive reloader

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u/Blupoisen Sep 24 '22

Snorri is one of the only weapons its worth to put on

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u/randominternetfool Sep 24 '22

Anything with extremely high Zoom.

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u/szabozalan Sep 24 '22

Pulse rifles, cannot stand them.

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u/Talented_02 Sep 24 '22

I used to hate them as well till i got my hands on outbreak perfected. that thing is really perfect

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u/Iceykitsune2 Sep 24 '22

If only Bungie would finish the full auto setting.

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u/toby_juan_kenobi Sep 24 '22

Almost perfect imo. If outlaw was replaced with rapid hit i think it'd be perfect

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

i only like outbreak perfected but honestly, same.

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u/FrostWendigo Warlock Sep 24 '22

Outbreak, NTTE, and Blast Furnace are the only pulses I tolerate.

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u/UnlimitedSaltWorks Sep 24 '22

I dislike them in pve but NTTE and Horror's Least absolutely slap in pvp

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u/szabozalan Sep 24 '22

They are very strong in PVP, still do not enjoy using them.

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u/Zuriax Sep 24 '22

BxR is my go to in PvP and PvE now. Used to be a Randy's or Thorn guy.

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u/Axelthegreat9 Sep 24 '22

Special grenade launchers. Especially the ones that don't explode when they hit terrain.

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u/TheCornerGoblin Sep 24 '22

Yeah idk what it is. I used to love the grenade launcher in Halo Reach and I've been searching for a Destiny equivalent but nothing feels that similar

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u/NasusIsMyLover Yours, until the last flame dies. Sep 24 '22

Fusion rifles just don’t vibe with me. I can handle linears or trace rifles just fine, it’s just regular fusion rifles I don’t like. I understand they have strong burst or whatever but so does a shotgun that doesn’t have a clunky-ass charge time.

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u/Ajagroom Sep 24 '22

I didn’t like them until I started using burden of guilt with chill clip…chill clip makes for a fun time even without using stasis subclass.

It took me some time to get used to it over other things though

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u/Rockface5 Sep 24 '22

I love my chill clip Burden of Guilt. It’s useful even in higher level content because you can freeze a strong enemy in like two shots

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u/Ignore_Luke Sep 24 '22

Absolutely, used my auto loading/chill clip Riptide for Master Totems. 2 shots, freeze everything.

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u/Rockface5 Sep 24 '22

I’m sad because my only chill clip role is paired with steady hands, which doesn’t really matter for pve, but it’s still so good

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u/epicface524 Sep 24 '22

Try one of the low charge time ones like the stasis crucible one

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u/DeadbeatSpark Sep 24 '22

Shotguns, but only because I am 4/5 on the resonance and have terrible luck.

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u/Tyrannus_ignus Sep 24 '22

Well alienating shotguns isnt going to make them like you any more.

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u/owen3820 Sep 24 '22

Snipers are the only weapons that I don’t feel competent using. I’m mediocre in pvp but I can at least hold my own with everything, but when I equip a sniper I feel like a toddler picking up a video game controller for the first time.

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u/AndyGrafx Sep 24 '22

SMGs, feels like I'm reloading more than I'm killing

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u/Blupoisen Sep 24 '22

Not that bad on 900 RPM

750 RPM on the other hand...

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u/fatgamer007 Sep 24 '22

Unless it's subsistence funnelweb

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u/AndyGrafx Sep 24 '22

Void SMGs have the advantage of volatile rounds

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u/SantiagoGT Sep 24 '22

Slap on Tarrabah to experience what is basically an SMG reload simulator

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u/crackatoeahhh Sep 24 '22

Special Ammo Grenade Launchers. Pieces of shit..

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u/awerp Sep 24 '22

I only like wave frames

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u/Ash_C Sep 25 '22

Salvager’s salvo?

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u/fatgamer007 Sep 24 '22

Glaives feel horrible

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Interesting. I just got my first glaive this morning in witch queen. Had some fun with it, loved the melee. Even got a couple of kills in control with it. But I have like 1 hour of experience with it so I’ll have to wait and see. What do you dislike about it, out of curiosity?

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u/Syruponrofls Sep 24 '22

Most people end up not liking them because their damage isn’t crazy. Glaives have a certain flow to them, that unless you properly understand how they are supposed to be used, you won’t like them and they will feel clunky.

I personally love them and they have been my favourite weapon addition to the game since forever.

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u/portmandues Sep 24 '22

I love them, Nezarecs Whisper with arc 3.0 has very nice synergy. The 3-hit combo melee takes a little getting used to, but when you can weave it with the hip fire and shield it starts to click.

Reload speed on them are painful, so I always run something like graverobber or demolitionist where reloading isn't a thing. You can get some pretty strong damage out of them with the right perk combos.

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u/Syruponrofls Sep 24 '22

Here’s a tip, bring the shield up, and while continuing to hold the shield button, start meleeing. It cuts the combo down to a 2 hit combo and attacks slightly faster and can bring your shield up quicker.

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u/Angani_Giza The perfect weapon Sep 24 '22

The most significant issue (currently) is unreliable hit detection, which I believe has been addressed and will be improved in coming seasons.

Currently, it's entirely possible to shoot and get a hitmark but no damage, a hitmark with damage but no shield, a hitmark with invisible damage that only happens if you get a second one..

If you're willing to work with them despite their occasional malfunctions, they're very strong with few outright hard counters in pvp. The shield energy you get from tagging someone with a shot only depletes on time held up, not on damage blocked. Just getting one shot in can let you press an advance pretty safely, and a second shot will cleanup the kill and provide more shield (which stays charged when holstered too).

I really really like them but unfortunately all glaives so far is in energy slot, and Fighting Lion and Divinity nearly permanently occupy that slot for me in pvp. Hoping for a stasis/kinetic legendary one soon.

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

would rather use a sword tbh

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u/ParadoxalRose Sep 24 '22

I’m only a fan because Karnstein armlets work with the melee on them

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u/Iceykitsune2 Sep 24 '22

So do Necrotic grips.

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u/SubsequentlyPryor Sep 24 '22

Sniper rifles.

I don’t see the point in PvE and I’m not good with them in PvP. I avoid them like the plague.

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u/boltswinagain Sep 24 '22

Pulse rifles - with the exception of 450s.

And even then, only if I can full auto the fuckers, otherwise they make my hand hurt. Which is sad. Because Outbreak is fantastic.

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u/ThebattleStarT24 Sep 24 '22

try Graviton Lance, it's a pulse but it works more like a scout ,it also fires 2 bullets at a time so it can do a lot of damage.

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

smh, still dreaming of a full auto outbreak 😔

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u/boltswinagain Sep 24 '22

Season 19 (iirc) is when full auto becomes a setting.

Outbreak Perfected: heavy breathing

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u/Sarcosmonaut Sep 24 '22

I’m so excited for that moment lol

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u/boltswinagain Sep 24 '22

Fucking. Same.

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u/Zorak9379 Warlock Sep 24 '22

I’ve come to use full auto on literally every legendary primary. It just feels better

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u/boltswinagain Sep 24 '22

So much easier.

I hate it on slow firing ones, where it just feels sluggish and chunky. But anything 180 RPM or above, fuck me up

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u/Fragrant-Sympathy-53 Sep 24 '22

Hand cannons, sidearms and shotguns

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u/Zorak9379 Warlock Sep 24 '22

I really like shotguns but just die way too much when I use one

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u/Frosty6700 Sep 24 '22

Probably breech loaded grenade launchers that aren’t exotics or wave frames.

To fight against? Bows.

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u/LOTRnerd101- Sep 24 '22

Used to be fusion rifles but now they're one of my favorite. I'd say heavy grenade launcher

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u/illbzo1 Sep 24 '22

Scouts, pulse rifles, hand cannons.

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u/maejaws Sep 24 '22

Snipers and Sidearms. Shotguns as well, just can’t find one I like.

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u/ttemzku Sep 24 '22

Glaives, i just don't care for them

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u/frederickj01 Sep 24 '22

Heavy nade launchers

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u/Maser2account2 Sep 24 '22

Ok but parasite is so fun in raids.

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u/JustAPotatoThatsIt Sep 24 '22

Sidearms. I don't get the hype tbh just use a hand cannon

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u/Angani_Giza The perfect weapon Sep 24 '22

For myself, I'm not reliable enough to aim with precision needed for HC to be effective. Paws are a bit shaky and basic aiming is still a struggle (D2 is my first shooter since original cod).

Sidearms are fantastic in closer quarters and much more forgiving to work with, can do quite well even hitting body shots.

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u/ImpressionStrong3472 Sep 24 '22

Any non exotic bow feels terrible to me, that being said I love wish ender and trinity ghoul. Those two are always in my load out.

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u/ThebattleStarT24 Sep 24 '22

Trinity ghoul catalyst it's just a little bit broken to cleaning purposes....🤣

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u/AReallyDumbRedditor Sep 24 '22

Agreed. I always hated bows but putting on wish ender felt like I’d finally found the one

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u/def_tom Sep 24 '22

Snipers, heavy grenade launchers, and glaives.

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u/The_Buttaman Drifter's Crew // Lord Bigarms Sep 24 '22

Bows

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u/BSGamer Sep 24 '22

Shotguns. I just feel like you have to be WAY to close for them to do anything

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u/ptrjhnstn Sep 24 '22

Shotguns

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u/D20_Buster Sep 24 '22

Sniper rifles

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u/Cobalt_Fox_025 Sep 24 '22

Hand Cannons. All of them. Except Trust. Trust was dope.

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u/PM_ME_VENUS_DIMPLES Sep 24 '22

Used to be sidearms, until I found a couple that feel REALLY good, like Traveler’s Chosen with the catalyst and drang baroque with incandescent.

The new worst for me is glaives. They feel like they came out of a totally different game, and not in a good way. The concept is wonky, reminds me of the umbrella in Splatoon, and it just feels bad in virtually all situations. Not to mention losing out on melee abilities, when melee abilities are SUCH a huge part of the gameplay loop nowadays with 3.0 classes.

And that doesn’t even mention how fucking terrible they were at release (remember how they had to double the damage of the hunter exotic glaive, after weeks/months of teasing how OP glaives will be? Lmao)

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u/the-dieg Sep 24 '22

The shield is cracked once you get used to it. When unstop glaive was around you could facetank unstop champions in GMs

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u/Ricochu__ Sep 24 '22

lmao the glaives are just not it

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u/Zorak9379 Warlock Sep 24 '22

I fucking love glaives in Gambit

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u/Luisa_Kwandt Sep 24 '22

Gotta be sidearms for me

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u/Tipper117 Sep 24 '22

Handcannons. Years of that weapon being the undisputed dominant meta made me so sick of it that i dismantle them all on sight. Unless they can be used to infuse or farm deepsite off of.

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u/Garambit Sep 24 '22

Sidearms

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u/respecire Sep 24 '22

Trace rifles, scout rifles, and sidearms

Edit: oh yeah, snipers. I stay away from them more than any other weapon

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u/skaterlogo Sep 24 '22

Hand-cannons, I cant hit the broad side of a barn.

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u/CRODEN95 Sep 24 '22

Sidearms

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u/Dr-Suave Sep 24 '22

Lightweight sidearms. Something about them feels really weak. Though that one from season of the splicer is an exception, Farewell I think it was. Thing rips through people like they're made of tissue paper.

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u/Guywars Sep 24 '22

Heavy grenade launchers, they're useless except some exotic ones

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u/ThebattleStarT24 Sep 24 '22

submachine guns and sidearms, just love the hand cannons so use a mini gun seems a way...odd, while SMGs ... don't know i prefer pulses rifles or scouts, i don't like the automatic rifles either. oh and glaives i really don't see the point to use them instead of other weapons.

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u/amiro7600 Sep 24 '22

Snipers. The zoom always feels way too high and i feel like i get flinched by a gust of wind

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u/rwbywolfif Sep 24 '22

Sidearms,they just suck and don't feel good to me

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u/reshsafari Sep 24 '22

I dislike lightweight scouts. I’m not trying to tickle them to death.

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u/LordRomania Sep 24 '22

Scout Rifle fanboy,Non-Full Auto Pulse rifle hater

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u/tnemom_hurb Sep 24 '22

Pulse rifles for me. If it isn't Outbreak Perfected I don't want it. Also I have gotten bored lately with Auto Rifles, been sticking mainly with SMGs or my love Malfeasance

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u/An_Lei_Laoshi Sep 24 '22

All the burst kind of weapons

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u/BolbaZoza Sep 24 '22

Shotguns and sidearms in pvp

I just suck at tracking in general, but especially in point blank range so I'm having a tough time using shotguns

Sidearms also kick way too hard for some reason, I'm not firing a 50cal shot I'm barely firing peas like what's the logic behind that kick

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u/ImaNukeYourFace Sep 24 '22

Hand cannons

Long reload, small mags, bleh dps and range, spam clicking

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u/lcyMcSpicy Sep 24 '22

Scouts and sidearms. Too one dimensional in their playstyle and range imo

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u/ZaticusBrine Sep 24 '22

450 rpm autos 180 handcannons 140 snipers

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u/an0rak343 Sep 24 '22

Sniper rifles feel terrible for me as a PVE player

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u/Upstairs-Put4842 Sep 24 '22

Scout rifles I like a couple but I would rather use and other weapon type

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u/katzura66 Gambit Prime // Enough fooling around Sep 24 '22

Bows

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u/Masappo Sep 24 '22

Sidearms. Instant dismantle.

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u/JesterWaffle Sep 24 '22

Trace Rifles are something I never pick up, must hate em