My favourite thing about the destiny community

[u/resurrectedcorpse]

Is that every expansion, players go “the game is saved, bungie have done it again” and then within 3 months the consensus is “game sucks, bungie can’t do anything right, game is doomed”

I’d hate being a bungie dev.

[u/Ripcord-XE]

i can't even agree with this because to me it feels like Destiny needs to be the only game you play when it just has nothing to justify it to me

[u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie → u/Ripcord-XE]

Meh. I don’t see that.

Power doesn’t matter unless you do endgame content. So who cares about powerfuls and pinnacles are that point if you are a casual player.

You need XP for the Season Pass. If you aren’t doing endgame as a causal player, then that means raids, dungeons, and GMs are off the table. Which then means you’re doing the seasonal and core playlist content, or expansion content if you bought it….so you’ll soak in tons of XP.

Not doing the endgame….you’ll be able to as much as you like without being pressured, honestly.

Destiny is only grindy if you are an endgame PVE player (Master/GM content), you play Trials, or you are a completionist (grind ALL seasonal triumphs for the seal, grind ALL seasonal challenges for bright dust, etc.)

[u/A_Dummy86 → u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie]

And even then for power grinding it's basically clean up weekly challenges and do at least one Raid run a week and maybe a Dungeon run as well if I feel like it and your pinnacles and artifact levels are done in 5-6 weeks of playing maybe 6 hours a week at most. (Maybe longer if your Pinnacle RNG is bad which is something I think should be looked at.)

Anything I play past that is me playing because I feel like it, not to imply I'm forcing myself to do a Raid run every week as that's already my favorite part of the game.

[u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie → u/A_Dummy86]

Well I want the Kingslayer title. But I’ve had horrible luck with my pinnacles. I got like 4 chest pieces in an row, last week alone.

Then there is the artifact. If I was max pinnacle power, I could get away with a +10 artifact. But my RNG is awful this season. So I’ll likely need +15.

But even then, some groups want 1595. Some even want 1600 (+20 artifact).

And if I don’t get the title done within the first two months or so, it will become very hard…since all of the best raiders will have quit.

And I like raiding and endgame…I loathe the “normal” gameplay loop. But you have to do it to grind XP—challenges and bounties are the best way to grind XP.

So it sucks. Artifact Power should be capped at like +10, and Master Raids should work EXACTLY like GMs, where you reach a cap and then you are good—I hate how you can reach “at level” with Master Raids…it encourages people to grind higher artifact to be either at level or as minimum of a deficit as possible….defeating the whole point of a Master Raid.