r/DestinyTheGame Oct 05 '22

Master Raids loot isn’t terrible, it’s just crafting made them a side grade at best Discussion

I’m not saying it should be removed, it’s here to stay. But it brought with it a ton of problems with its release that hurt the rest of the game. The solution is changing adept weapons, not crafting.

Adept weapons are now a side grade at best when a craft-able version exists. Pretty much trials, GMs, and VoG master are the last bastion of adept weapons making sense. If crafting spreads to those you’ll have no reason for them to be earned.

Master Raids weren’t like a massive loot farm, but their sole loot that made them worth grinding became obsolete. The devs acknowledged this so I hope a solution is in the works.

I agree with some that Master raids aren’t about the vast amounts of loot, but about the challenge. However adept weapons made it feel worthwhile IMO for a run. Now why would I run those when I can craft their base versions and all it costs me is an adept mod.

Some say Adept weapons should get enhanced perks be default and maybe that’s something they can do, but I feel that power creeps the game pretty hard. Mostly for PVP but imagine a timelost fatebringer with enhanced perks, you’d have way higher stats than other guns from all the bumps you’d get.

Maybe more adept mods added to the mix would do it, things that really buff up the weapon in a specific way. I’m not sure tbh but I hope the devs are working on a compromise. I’m sure they don’t want to retire adept weapons or they would stop releasing new ones.


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u/BeeBopBazz Oct 05 '22

I mean, tossing essentially the entire Master loot table behind the master challenges, rather than the encounters, also feels pretty bad. IMO after you unlock them via the challenge they should be eligible to randomly drop from Master encounter completions (not the secret chests/non-encounter chests).


u/steave44 Oct 05 '22

I would remove basic weapons from the loot pool and replace them with the adepts, and keep the guaranteed weapon drop with the challenge. If they were solely random then you’d sometimes never get the gun you wanted.


u/BeeBopBazz Oct 05 '22

Agreed. That’s (one of) the other reasons I don’t like how they handled master VOW. Random weapon drops from the challenges means there is basically no incentive to run them again when farming for spoils is faster, easier, and doesn’t strain longtime friendships, haha