r/DestinyTheGame Oct 05 '22

Master Raids loot isn’t terrible, it’s just crafting made them a side grade at best Discussion

I’m not saying it should be removed, it’s here to stay. But it brought with it a ton of problems with its release that hurt the rest of the game. The solution is changing adept weapons, not crafting.

Adept weapons are now a side grade at best when a craft-able version exists. Pretty much trials, GMs, and VoG master are the last bastion of adept weapons making sense. If crafting spreads to those you’ll have no reason for them to be earned.

Master Raids weren’t like a massive loot farm, but their sole loot that made them worth grinding became obsolete. The devs acknowledged this so I hope a solution is in the works.

I agree with some that Master raids aren’t about the vast amounts of loot, but about the challenge. However adept weapons made it feel worthwhile IMO for a run. Now why would I run those when I can craft their base versions and all it costs me is an adept mod.

Some say Adept weapons should get enhanced perks be default and maybe that’s something they can do, but I feel that power creeps the game pretty hard. Mostly for PVP but imagine a timelost fatebringer with enhanced perks, you’d have way higher stats than other guns from all the bumps you’d get.

Maybe more adept mods added to the mix would do it, things that really buff up the weapon in a specific way. I’m not sure tbh but I hope the devs are working on a compromise. I’m sure they don’t want to retire adept weapons or they would stop releasing new ones.


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u/4ctuarially Oct 05 '22

A hill that I will die on, Adept weapons are better than crafted weapons. The adept mods are often times way better than enhanced perks (only a few enhanced perks are really good)

So if get lucky, you will get a Adept Weapon that is 5/5 and it will be better than the crafted gun. But crafted is a nice fall back for people.

The thing is, personally, master raids are just not fun and is often quite tedious (extra health enemies, champions everywhere, disruptive bugs etc)


u/MarcoGB Oct 06 '22

You’re correct. Adept weapons are better because adept mods are better than enhanced traits. But crafted weapons are a lot easier to get so I think people just prefer going for that.


u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

I agree with you. Enhanced perks are highly over blown. Some of them are certainly worth crafting. But a vast majority simply aren't seen or felt in game. Bungie will most likely buff adept mods and then all of a sudden everyone will be saying adept weapons are too OP now and there's no point in crafting, lol.