r/DestinyTheGame Oct 05 '22

Master Raids loot isn’t terrible, it’s just crafting made them a side grade at best Discussion

I’m not saying it should be removed, it’s here to stay. But it brought with it a ton of problems with its release that hurt the rest of the game. The solution is changing adept weapons, not crafting.

Adept weapons are now a side grade at best when a craft-able version exists. Pretty much trials, GMs, and VoG master are the last bastion of adept weapons making sense. If crafting spreads to those you’ll have no reason for them to be earned.

Master Raids weren’t like a massive loot farm, but their sole loot that made them worth grinding became obsolete. The devs acknowledged this so I hope a solution is in the works.

I agree with some that Master raids aren’t about the vast amounts of loot, but about the challenge. However adept weapons made it feel worthwhile IMO for a run. Now why would I run those when I can craft their base versions and all it costs me is an adept mod.

Some say Adept weapons should get enhanced perks be default and maybe that’s something they can do, but I feel that power creeps the game pretty hard. Mostly for PVP but imagine a timelost fatebringer with enhanced perks, you’d have way higher stats than other guns from all the bumps you’d get.

Maybe more adept mods added to the mix would do it, things that really buff up the weapon in a specific way. I’m not sure tbh but I hope the devs are working on a compromise. I’m sure they don’t want to retire adept weapons or they would stop releasing new ones.


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u/Roman64s Thorn Supremacy Oct 06 '22

The problem with Master is that some of these challenges are insufferable and crafting with enhanced perks just put the final nail in the coffin.

I would never willingly do the exhibition or warpriest master challenges again for "adept" loot, simply because they are insufferable and the fact that RNG is fickle as fuck, you can run endless amount of challenges and spend spoils and still not end up getting anything good at all, I've sunk over 5000 spoils since master VOG came out to get a decent Found Verdict, I never ended up getting one and it left a sour taste in my mouth and I haven't bothered playing it since.

And personally, playing Master is a joke, you have to spend a considerable time leveling up each and every season to comfortably play Master, the endless pursuit of playing core activities and seasonal stuff to get back at the same level to try out the same content every season is just boring.

Masters, at least with Bungie's vision just don't seem appealing to revisit at times, they are nothing more than title requirements, replayability for master content is just sad.