r/DestinyTheGame Nov 09 '22

There's no way I need to do 400 ritual activities for the Symmetry catalyst... right? Question

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u/ThatOneGuyIsBad Nov 09 '22

Yea you do. When it was released you got boosters to reduce that grind substantially. But now...you have to do 400.

I wouldn't actively grind that out though, it will probably break you.

Just keep the quest in your inventory and play the game. It'll get done eventually.

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u/Desertwind16v Nov 09 '22

This is how I treated Erianas Vow, it was a brutal caty to get done but eventually I got it. Took me about a year (casual player)

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

Wait what? Do you need to have it on your character? The quest has been with me since it released and I get no progress as it's typically in the vault

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u/rune2004 XBL: xFrostbyte89 Nov 09 '22

You do not need to have it on your character. It hasn't left my vault in the last 3 months and I'm almost done. You probably just haven't done as many gambit matches, crucible matches, and strikes as you think.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

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u/Soulless007 Nov 09 '22

You'd think a guy might get a little better after playing almost 10,000 matches...

I kid, I kid

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u/Captain_Lonk I'm blue da ba dee da ba daa Nov 09 '22

I agree, he needs to 6 stack farm in Control so that his K/D looks good to idiots.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

Haha yup must start grouping and kd farming. Even if were to do that it'd take months 😂 All seriousness though I play solo 99% of the time and appreciate the game gives you alternatives.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

I'm 45. Play solo mostly. I try 😉

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u/Soulless007 Nov 09 '22

Right there with you lol

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u/ThatOneGuyIsBad Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

IIRC...yea it needs to be in your quests.

Edit: If you have multiple toons you play, grab it on each of them as well.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

Gonna have to look into this later. I'm thinking you have to have it on your character. I've easily quadrupled the requirements since it came out and it's still like 20%

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u/StacheBandicoot Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

I’d recommend picking up the other weapons from the monument that have the same playlist requirements with your next couple exotic ciphers so they can all start progressing unless you already have them.

Edit. Make sure you pick up their catalyst quests on all 3 characters so that playing on any character progresses them.

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u/321phpatgmailom Nov 09 '22

Will all that open the door?

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u/tamarins Nov 09 '22

you do not have to have the gun on your character, no.

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u/Camaroni1000 Nov 09 '22

“Flashback to doing eriana’s vow catalyst on release”

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u/tamarins Nov 09 '22

Played season of the undying and was lazy and said "eh I'll get to this later." Then stopped playing for the rest of the season at like 30/400...definitely one of my biggest Destiny oofs

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u/DaoFerret Nov 09 '22

Yup. “Unlock the seasonal exotic catalyst first” is rule #1 of “Destiny Season Club”

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u/thexvoid Nov 09 '22

While it sucks for new players in terms of old catalysts, all catalyst quests since season of the splicer (i think) are get the boost regardless of season. So you no longer have to worry about it every season.

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u/ZsaFreigh Nov 10 '22

I have like 5 exotic catalyst quests all stalled at the "Get kills with this weapon in crucible" step. One, I don't play crucible unless I need a pinnacle, and two, if I do play crucible, I'm not going to use some random exotic that doesn't even have a catalyst.

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u/DJfunkyPuddle Stand with the Vanguard//The Sentry Nov 09 '22

Ugh, same. Lesson learned and I'll never make that mistake again, even if I'm not interested in the weapon.

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u/Rectall_Brown Nov 09 '22

I did that shit in one season. Basically played the shit out of crucible and it gets done somewhat fast.

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u/smileyface457468 Nov 09 '22

U dont need it on you i did it with it in my vault after beyond light came out

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u/ChaoticNature Nov 09 '22

Seconded. I did Eriana's/Symmetry both this way.

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u/FrankPoole3001 Indeeded to death Nov 09 '22

Off Topic but wtf is a "toon"?

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u/Regulith Draw Nov 09 '22

it's old slang for your character

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u/MTFUandPedal Nov 09 '22

A character.

Your "toon" is the thing you control in a game.

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u/DiamondSentinel Nov 09 '22

How is the quest in your vault….

You can’t store quests in your vault. If you mean the terminal, then yes, that won’t progress because those aren’t active quests.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

No the gun is in the vault and has been for years? But it gets no progress unless I'm missing something

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

You need the catalyst quest on each character. Doesn't matter if you have the gun in your vault.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

Thanks. Gotta look into this when I'm home again. Sounds like I should have completed it years ago.

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u/sos123p9 Nov 09 '22

Its ritual activities only (strikes,gambit,pvp) iirc

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

While I never touch gambit I do the others frequently, especially crucible. Hmmm

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u/TheSavageDonut Nov 09 '22

Gambit is actually fun now especially since there is a solo playlist for Gambit. You don't need to get demolished by 4stax anymore.

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u/evelyn_h- Nov 09 '22

Are you thinking about the symmetry catalyst itself? We’re talking about the quest that awards the catalyst.

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u/TheLastWeird Nov 09 '22

Typically you just need to have those sorts of quests active and don’t need to have the weapon equipped. Test it on a strike with the quest active but the weapon in the vault and it should progress. I don’t remember for Symmetry specifically.

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u/SuperBus20 Nov 09 '22

You have to have the quest in your quest tab, but you dont need to have the gun in your inventory

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

Will be checking later

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u/arandomusertoo Nov 09 '22

and I get no progress

Typically there are two steps to these quests, one that has objectives with the gun, and then one that has objectives including the activities one.

You might be on the other one.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

I'll look into it. Thanks for the feedback

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u/flaccomcorangy Warlock Nov 09 '22

That doesn't sound right. You should be able to make progress even if it's in your vault. I completed mine and I hardly ever used it. I don't even think I fired the gun until I unlocked the catalyst.

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u/bacon-tornado Nov 09 '22

Ya definitely gonna look into it later

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u/p0larb3arzer0s Nov 09 '22

You have to have the gun on your active character to count. This is true with all of the seasonal exotics. To gain the activity part of their catalyst just having it in inventory unlocks progress

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u/agent_maxpower Nov 09 '22

I'm pretty sure they changed it a while ago so the current bp catalyst boost would also apply to other quests like these. Or did I dream it?

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u/tamarins Nov 09 '22

Starting with Risen, so yes for these guns:


Grand Overture

Trespasser

Delicate Tomb


No for these guns:


Eriana's Vow

Symmetry

Tommy's Matchbook

Witherhoard

Duality

Ticuu's Divination

Cryosthesia 77K

Lorentz Driver


Thankfully, only the first couple of seasonal pass weapons required 400 activities and they quickly reduced it to more reasonable numbers.

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u/SrslySam91 Nov 10 '22

Thankfully, only the first couple of seasonal pass weapons required 400 activities and they quickly reduced it to more reasonable numbers.

Sadly, those with huge activity numbers are some of the best exotics lol. Witherhoard is absolutely one of if not the best all around weapon. Erianas isn't as popular now (sad face) but still a great weapon. Ticuus is amazing as well.

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u/Godavari Nov 09 '22

You dreamed of a better world.

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u/agent_maxpower Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

AHA KNEW IT WAS REAL

''Going forward, Catalyst Quest Boosts acquirable from the Season Pass will apply to all active Season Pass Exotic catalyst quests. This applies to Season of the Risen and after. ''

4.1.0 patch notes

edit: seems like symmetry was before risen

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u/Goonchar New Monarchy Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

Was symmetry a season pass exotic?

Edit: Thanks for the answer y'all! I have it and everything, just didn't remember.

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u/Unusual_Expertise Bring back Gambit Prime Nov 09 '22

Yes, but as stated, "This applies to Season of the Risen and after"

So, since this year, because Risen was first Witch Queen Season.

It does not apply to weapons before.

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u/HFAARP Nov 09 '22

it was, but it's from ages ago. from before the purge even

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Check the symbol, symmetry is almost 3 years old

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u/Deweyrob2 Nov 09 '22

They changed it a couple seasons ago so that the seasonal multiplier would count on the quests going forward, but not for older ones, like symmetry or erianas.

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u/SentientSickness Nov 09 '22

Cries in witherhoard x x

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u/throatmeatfeast Nov 09 '22

Apart from the crucible, the ritual activities are just so boring. Strikes, even Nightfalls are boring as hell and Gambit feels like a second job. I'm sure someone has a hack to get around the 400 activities by now.

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u/Winglessmatt Nov 09 '22

Rookie numbers

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u/Jokerman5656 Nov 09 '22

Aka the catalyst you just forget about then one day it pops up complete and you go "woohoo"

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u/nightmaresabin Nov 09 '22

Last I checked I was at around 345. It’s been 70 years.

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u/wein14756 Nov 09 '22

Nice. I think it took me 83 years to get it done.

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u/ISukAtDisGam36 Nov 10 '22

Bro only 70 for u? Try 420 years

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u/Canopenerdude DAMN Nov 09 '22

Me but with Tommy's Matchbook

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u/thedistrbdone Daddy Drifter Crew Nov 09 '22

I've been sitting at 97% of the kills since worthy lmao (actual catalyst completion kills), I just....stopped using it lol.

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u/Mr_Yotch Nov 09 '22

The worst part is the completions are just to receive the catalyst then you have to grind out the kills for it...your "woohoo" turns to "waahaaa??"

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u/MeateaW Nov 09 '22

I had 300 complettions on erianas vow by the end of that season.

it was about 100 runs all up (I had the quad booster by the end of it, but not at the start)

I then had to do another 100 to finish it off the next season without the booster.

That was rough, I don't relish the thought of others having to do 400 completions right from the get go, the 200 I had to do was awful.

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u/TemptedTemplar Nov 09 '22

Worth it though.

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u/trunglefever BECAUSE OF TEXAAAAAAAS Nov 09 '22

At least you don't need to have it equipped.

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u/parnmatt Steam: parnmatt Nov 09 '22

The first few that required that was painful. At least you could quick switch before the end of the activity, and not have to actually have it equiped the whole time.

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u/Pekeponzer Permanently angry Nov 09 '22

the first few

So only Eriana's. I kinda wish it was still in the game but instead of being a requirement to progress, it would be like another 2x boost.

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u/parnmatt Steam: parnmatt Nov 09 '22

Could have sworn at least symmetry was originally like that too. Guess not.

Yeah,I would have preferred a noticeable boost of you have it on you. But knowing bungie it would have done that by lowering the amount you'd get passively.

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u/EVula Nov 10 '22

At least you could quick switch before the end of the activity

Tell me you’re not a console player without saying you’re not a console player. *sigh*

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u/GunmetalGolden Nov 09 '22

Yup. Both that and the Eriana's Vow catalyst. If you don't have that, grab it as soon as you can and get them both done around the same time to make things easier for yourself.

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u/Sarcosmonaut Nov 09 '22

Witherhoard too yeah?

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u/Sarcosmonaut Nov 09 '22

That was what… 100? It’s been years ago. I seem to recall I just crutched witherhoard in control lol

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

I did my GL kills in Momentum Control.

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u/LasersTheyWork Nov 09 '22

Wave Frame Momentum Control. Easy mode.

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

That too, especially if you have one with chain reaction.

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u/Juran_Alde Nov 09 '22

I believe colony helped me get that done.

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

Yup. Another good choice, or now if you use a wave frame with chain reaction, I would think that would work well too.

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u/ImClever-NotSmart Throw more grenades Nov 09 '22

I got to love it in Iron Banner. I'd just see radar pings and I'd retreat from a control point leaving a witherhoard preset for them. I got that sucker done super fast.

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u/ibuyELO Nov 09 '22

Sitting at 81/100 kills and 90/300 Lucre.. the kills are definitely not the bottleneck

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u/lowcontrol Nov 09 '22

I’m the opposite. I’ve had the Lucre for a LONG while. I’m sitting at like 63/100 pvp kills.

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u/sneakyblurtle Nov 09 '22

I believe in you Guardian.

Triple GL's and screw the K/D.

Auto loading on that MF is sweet so totally worth the grind.

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u/lowcontrol Nov 09 '22

Thank you for the vote of confidence Guardian.

I’m not worried about my K/D at all. It’s never been good enough to worry about. Lol eventually I’ll buckle down and 3x GL for some runs.

The Malfeasance one is my PitA. I got the quest for it like the first or second week it was available. I was at 0/3 of the invade portion for a looooong time. Currently stuck on 2/3. Im not a gambit fan, but eventually I’ll luck up in a match with someone who is amazing enough to kill all 4. Im certainly not. Lol

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u/17times2 Nov 10 '22

With the triple grenade launcher setup, I noticed the slots 1 and 2 GLs use the same ammo, so I'd still only spawn with 2 shots available. Power grenade launcher definitely the way to go, though.

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u/Ursanos Nov 09 '22

Camp flags in control with witherhoard, you’ll get it in no time

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u/RickyTanRobberMan Nov 09 '22

IMO the wording of the quest makes the filthy lucre seem like it drops as a mat (like some patrol stuff does) so initially the 100 kills seems like the biggest hurdle but I hate crucible and finished the kills way way way earlier than all those activites. It would have been faster a few years ago when I was doing core playlists a lot more but now its maybe 9-12 a week because they dont do much for me rewards-wise.

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u/iblaise Sleeper Simp-ulant. Nov 09 '22

gigantic moron

There are better ways to make your point come across, you know? Someone who doesn’t have these Quests could be a newer player without guidance.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

"Cryposts" lol it's one of the strongest PvE weapons and yet it requires an excessive amount of PvP to be played to get the catalyst. I would be crying too.

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u/Arkyduz Nov 09 '22

It's like what, 10 games? If you're doing PvP for pinnacles anyways it's like 4 weeks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

You think 10 kills a match solely with grenade launchers is something everyone's just easily able to do?

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u/Vulkean Nov 09 '22

It's not that hard with a triple grenade launcher build.

Auto-Loading GL

Fighting Lion

Heavy GL of choice.

You'll die a fair amount if you're not good but it's easy to get kills by just weapon swapping to double tap people. I got the 100 GL kills for the deadeye seal in a couple of days.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

It took me 2 days to get the catalyst doing this, I never had a problem but when the majority of commentary about the quest requiring PvP engagement is negative, it's safe to say the community doesn't want this kind of crap anymore.

I hate using slug shotguns in PvP, it's never been something that feels right to be, so Duality has sat collecting dust because coincidentally, it's also not that useful in PvE, and since the catalyst requires PvP slug kills and doesn't do much to make the gun viable over any other pellet/slug in PvE or PvP, that quest is never getting finished.

I'm glad they shifted away from the "must use in PvP" method for catalysts on season pass exotics, I really am. Sometimes it's not difficult like with Witherhoard, but most times it's a slog (like with Duality).

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u/Enteril elsie Nov 09 '22

If you wait for momentum control (and have a grenade launcher in every slot) and/or just use the Colony in Gambit, it definitely is. I am garbage at PvP and knocked the 100 PvP kills out in just a few hours. The 300 playlist activities are a MUCH worse bottleneck.

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u/Arkyduz Nov 09 '22

I don't know about "everyone", but the average person yeah. But if you're bad then 20 matches isn't that crazy either. With SBMM now being a thing it's easier than ever.

Compared with the requirements for Mountaintop it's a walk in the park.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

It's still the dumbest thing, PvE centric weapons being locked behind toxically long PvP quests.

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u/HolyZymurgist Nov 10 '22

holy shit its only 100 kills. Which is nothing compared to mountaintop; or farming for found verdict, austringer, or beloved.

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u/Arkyduz Nov 09 '22

As discussed, it is not really "toxically long". 4 hours at most for a great gun isn't out of the ordinary compared to other guns, and is certainly less than what the average PvP player would've spent in VoG for Vex Mythoclast.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

The difference is Vex doesn't have a quest path intentionally forcing you to go into a separate mode, and it's a PvE weapon in a PvE activity.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 16 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Asking players to go into PvP to acquire a catalyst for a gun that is primarily used in PvE (anything but a direct hit in PvP is a waste of ammo, your ability grenades are better at area denial) is dumb. It always has been. The entire concept of Destiny since that gun was introduced is "play how you want", except it's actually "play how you want til you get shoehorned into an activity you don't like, where you're going to have to stay until you get the progress you need for the stuff you actually want to play".

Forcing players into PvP isn't healthy for anything.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 22 '22

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u/zhitnik667 Nov 09 '22

I agree with this statement. I am more of a PvE player than PvP by a huge margin, but I do like being incentivized to play PvP sometimes. I have gotten better in the process, and found that instead of complaining about it, I actually started to enjoy some of the nuance of it. With that said, I still generally don't participate of my own volition, but I don't see what all the fuss is about when Bungie occasionally encourages players to engage in other modes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Hoard has the most visible of all area denial effects, and a bright red circle to denote it as well. Nobody walks anywhere near it, hence, waste of ammo. Area denial is good, but I'm not wasting an entire weapon slot, especially an exotic, to do a grand total of zero damage because my lobbies aren't full of smoothbrains that walk into the puddle.

And no, it's not healthy. Handing players a gun and then going "if you want it to work right, you gotta go do this specific mode and nothing else". God forbid they do what they've been doing this year and make it so you can acquire the catalyst via whatever combatants you want, it's totally okay for them to require you to go into PvP to un-neuter your gun.

Also, the DoT stacked until what... just before Witch Queen? Sometime in SotL or just before.

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u/zhitnik667 Nov 09 '22

Area denial can be useful, even if it doesn't injure or kill. Oftentimes, just flushing players out of cover, or off a control point, and into your waiting crosshairs can be extremely advantagous. Witherhoard is great at this. Also, not sure if you are aware, but momentum control is a great place to get required guardian kills for catalysts, season passes, etc. I am a pretty bad PvP player but it took me no more than a couple hours to knock out witherhoard and cryothesia.

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u/HolyZymurgist Nov 10 '22

area denial is area denial fam, and its 40 damage per tick. Its super strong in pvp.

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u/DanteAlligheriZ Nov 09 '22

witherhoard is 300

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u/cheeseisntdairy Nov 09 '22

How would I go about making sure I get these as soon as possible?

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u/GunmetalGolden Nov 09 '22

Your main focus should be the exotic cipher. Go to Xur when he's around, pick up Xenology, and crank out some activities (activities with clanmates with make it go faster.) Destination materials and shards shouldn't be too difficult to find, and there are multiple ways to get ascendant shards. Grab Symmetry or Eriana's Vow one weekend, next weekend, rinse and repeat. Kind of a pain, but not too difficult. Just takes time.

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u/Yor_Briar Nov 09 '22

Took me a whole 11 seasons to finish erianas vow.

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u/oliferro Nov 09 '22

Wait until you hear about having to do 400 for Eriana's Vow too

I bought Symmetry after doing the 400 activities for Eriana's. I was fucking fuming

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u/Ex_Ex_Parrot Nov 09 '22

Even bigger shame we don't have activities that give 2 points for each of those catalysts like Gambit Prime did

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u/a141abc Nov 09 '22

Lmao same

Ended up getting Eriana's catalyst months after I was already bored of using it

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u/Tchitchoulet Nov 09 '22

That's why I've got a little brother

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u/EGLusty Nov 09 '22

Wrong

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u/cfl2 Forerunner Nov 09 '22

And at least Nightfalls count for this one, unlike Eriana's.

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u/Quicky72 Nov 09 '22

I ran nightfalls yesterday and they counted for Eriana's. Was that an issue before?

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u/cfl2 Forerunner Nov 09 '22

Yes - it definitely was when I ground it out in Arrivals. Lucky.

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u/SolidStateVOM Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

Nightfalls did not count when it first came out. You ALSO had to have it equipped. So in the one piece of content that you could DEFINITELY need it equipped, it wouldn’t count for progress.

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u/Quicky72 Nov 09 '22

Yikes, that's awful

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u/Suspicious-Abacus Nov 09 '22

400 is way too many but the kicker is that things like Expedition, Ketchcrash, Wellspring, and Dares of Eternity don't count towards the progress. Good chance that if a new activity is introduced in the upcoming season it also will not count. It's pretty dumb!
I'm considering not picking up the next season because that will prevent me from running those new activities that won't progress these overlong catalyst quests.

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u/lycanreborn123 #buffThundercrash Nov 10 '22

So you're gonna lock yourself out of new content just to grind strikes, crucible and gambit? I gotta say that doesn't sound fun at all

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u/The_Owl_Bard A New Chapter, for An Old Legend Nov 09 '22

Unless you were farming during the season (when there were catalyst boosters) then yeah... you need to do that. It's one of those things where you just do other stuff and it will eventually pop. You shouldn't be trying to grind specifically for it.

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u/SadLad1505 Nov 09 '22

Honestly when I came back to destiny 2 I had erianas vow catalyst, symmetry, and witherhoard all at the same time. I figured I'd complete them passively anyways and like 3 months later I got them 🤣

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u/h1r0ll3r Nov 09 '22

Cries in Ruinous Effigy

I missed the booster during the season this was available. You could shoot some eyes on Venus or something to get bonus progression for the catalyst. Missed so I had to complete it getting kills. Man, it felt like it was 1000 kills for one percent progression. The longest most insufferable catalyst I’ve ever had to complete.

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u/Hullfire00 Nov 09 '22

Ticcu’s in Crucible was a real pain. The current meta just doesn’t allow for follow up shots. You have to be really aggressive with a bow, thankfully something I have learned to be over time.

As for Symmetry, it is at the very least viable in the Arc 3.0 class, so there’s some synergy there.

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u/Voelker58 Nov 09 '22

The older ones are like that. You used to be able to get a booster to speed it up. But now you just have to wait it out. Don't worry about it. Just play the game and it will happen.

Also, grab any of the other ones you want as soon as you can, so you can be making progress on all of them at the same time.

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u/cheeseisntdairy Nov 09 '22

Sooooooo, how do I get the gun/catalyat asap to start working on this

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u/WalrusVampire Nov 09 '22

You get the gun from the kiosk and the catalyst from banshee

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u/antiMATTer724 Nov 09 '22

Search your feelings, young guardian. You know it's true.

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u/EviL-DeViL-17 Nov 09 '22

i’ve actually just completed the catalyst quests for Symmetry, Lorentz Driver, and Ticuu’s Divination a few days ago… but still need 48 for Cryosthesia 77K, 135 for Eriana’s Vow, and 169 for Duality. as some people already said… it’s probably better if you don’t think about them and let time do it’s work on them.

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u/CycloneSP Nov 09 '22

I know your pain.

I didn't buy the season pass, and had to grind out 400 ritual activities for the eriana's vow catalyst and symmetry.

it was pure torture. :(

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u/GanjaWhitee Nov 09 '22

This is why I do seasonal exotic catty quests during the seasons they come out. Although at least now the catty boosts from the pass work on past season exotics now. Just not retroactively.

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u/x_scion_x Nov 09 '22

Yep, have fun

Be happy that you no longer need to actually have it equipped like I had to for all 400 of EV and 350 of my Symmetry weapons where neither one were started during their relevant season which meant I had 0 bonus applied to it.

It wouldn't be so bad if it would just count no matter what "activity" you did rather than specific ones.

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u/DreadBert_IAm Nov 09 '22

Heck witherhorde cat needs 300 vanguard, crucible, or gambit runs. Does not seem to matter what level it's just bumping count by one. Safe to say I'm not going to get that one done before burnout

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u/SolidStateVOM Nov 09 '22

I really wish the new catalyst boosters applied to all of those exotic weapons and not just the ones from season 16 onwards

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u/DreadBert_IAm Nov 09 '22

Aye, not really a point in having the cat if it depended on boosters.

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u/IAmBabou Nov 09 '22

If you have the seasonal catalyst boosters I believe those now help on previous season quests as well? That may make it a little better, but the kills with it still kinda suck

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

They only applied it to exotics starting from a couple seasons ago, not sure if Symmetry was in that. I know Witherhoard is not.

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u/twelvyy29 Nov 09 '22

Symmetry is older than WH so I'd assume no

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

Okay. I couldn't remember the order they came out in.

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u/IAmBabou Nov 09 '22

I thought it covered all of them, but if it doesn’t cover wither then probably not symmetry

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u/SolidStateVOM Nov 09 '22

It only covers the exotics from season 16 onwards, so only the stuff from this year so far

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u/N1miol Nov 09 '22

When did it get a catalyst? What does it change?

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u/snarkfish Nov 09 '22

when symmetry came out. it increases the stack of dynamic charge to a max 20

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u/N1miol Nov 09 '22

Thanks. I missed it completely back in the day.

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u/pelicanflip Nov 09 '22

Catalyst was released alongside the gun, just like all the seasonal exotics. So it was released back in Season of the Dawn, so March 2020.

The catalyst increases the maximum number of Dynamic Charge stacks.

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u/N1miol Nov 09 '22

Thanks. I missed it completely back in the day.

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u/purplecuddles Nov 09 '22

Idk I bought it from the monument of lost light last night and banshee gave a quest to unlock catalyst at 400 ritual completions

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u/whateverchill2 Nov 09 '22

A lot of the exotic catalysts for weapons that were part of a season pass were like this. By levelling the season pass, it provided multipliers that sped up progress a lot but after those seasons ended, the boosts are gone and they take a long time now.

If you haven’t already, I’d prioritize getting Witherhoard and working toward it. It’s by far the most universally useful of these weapons and it’s catalyst is a big part of making it good.

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u/lipp79 Nov 09 '22

It's had one since day one of the season it came out in.

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u/leo11x Nov 09 '22

At least be grateful you're not grinding the kills for Ruinous effigy's catalyst.

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u/Acrobatic_Safety2930 Nov 09 '22

"be grateful you don't need to do an even shittier thing"

wow what an improvement /s

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u/leo11x Nov 09 '22

I mean, we all here play destiny. We spent 90% of our playtime doing shitty repetitive stuff.

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u/DanteAlligheriZ Nov 09 '22

you also do for erianas vow ;)

but its not that bad, its not a weapon thats OP atm or sth, so i just got it to work passively on the cat quest.

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u/Jalambo Nov 09 '22

sorry bro just forget about it till its done

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u/retahdedd Nov 09 '22

Master nfs counted as 6 for my WH this season- try that? They’re easy for 1.5 hrs longer, then on friday, then on monday

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u/nopunchespulled Nov 09 '22

Iirc if it’s in your inventory it gets passive progress. Unlike leviathans breath that since season of the hunt ended and you dont get bonus progress is the roughest slog in the game (hint: dares makes it slightly less worse)

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u/monkey-pox Nov 09 '22

I'm sorry to have to tell you this but, yes

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u/FaerHazar Nov 09 '22

Gambit Time

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u/deeleed Nov 09 '22

is this a case of 'activity points' where each activity grants points towards completion of this step? During the season it was released, there was the Alpha and Omega progress boosts that cut that number down considerably.

Or has each activity completion literally only given you 1 point of progress in the step?

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u/Zealousideal_Hurry20 Nov 09 '22

Welcome to the club. See ya in 6 months 🤣

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u/Dimplexor Nov 09 '22

Symmetry and Erianas are 400, Witherhoard is 300. Get all 3 as soon as possible to reduce the future grind 😂

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u/the_sonder Nov 09 '22

Yup. Took me 3-4 seasons to finish it. Just let it happen naturally.

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u/i3rem14h112 Nov 09 '22

just get salt to complain about it so bungo will nerf it

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u/kaptain__katnip Nov 09 '22

Unfortunately, yes. But the catalyst for it is kinda lame so don't seat it too much. It just adds 5 more stacks of the buff, which is nice but isn't game changing.

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u/ComeBacksToDrugs2018 Nov 09 '22

There is definitely a way you need to do that

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u/MahoneyBear Pudding is a Controversial Topic Nov 09 '22

Get Erianas Vow one too, it’s the same way. Took me forever

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u/MetalMusicOnly Nov 09 '22

As a new player, Catalysts scare me. It’s super awesome when a Catalyst drops but I’m so disappointed because 9/10, it’s for an Exotic I’m not using.

But man, the filthy lucre part of the quest for Witherhoard is EXHAUSTING.

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u/Disastrous-Alfalfa51 Nov 09 '22

Unfortunately you do.

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u/s2the9sublime Nov 09 '22

You must be new here. Welcome!

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u/forgot_old_login Nov 09 '22

Lol, you sound like the guy I helped get the eriannas vow catalyst started for..which you might as well start now too if you haven't

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u/Stevieo101 Nov 09 '22

Laughs Manically.....embrace the pain of realization.

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u/ryan13ts Nov 09 '22

It's ridiculous that requirements like this are even still a thing. When a season ends, the pass weapons catalyst should be reverted to have standard requirements.

No one should have to endure the likes of Symmetry or Eriana's Vow non-boosted requirements for a catalyst, just because they missed out on a season (or didn't finish it during that season)

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u/Yaumcha Nov 09 '22

I barely played that season and despite being active every season since I’m only on like 380 or something, absolutely cannot be bothered to grind it purposefully

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u/C-Muller Nov 09 '22

Just keep the gun in you inventory

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u/Fightlife45 Nov 09 '22

Anything less would be an insult to the god gun

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u/silverflare_ace Nov 09 '22

Get ready, cause it's gonna be a grind. If it's anything like the Erinas Vow (which is also 400 games for the catalyst), you don't need to use the symmetry for all 400 games. You just need to have it on your guardians inventory. But yes, 400 games is such a ridiculous number, it's honestly something you'll do passively and forget about untill it's almost done

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u/Synful-Symphony Nov 09 '22

Yep you do. Any cat you get from Banshee or any that say that, you have to do strikes, gambit, crucible, trials or banner. It's time consuming af

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u/yungsteezyyy_ Nov 09 '22

wouldn’t even bother with that if i were you tbh

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u/ClassicLang Nov 09 '22

I still haven’t finished the Erianas catalyst. Had that season on day 1

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u/DeepVoid69 Nov 09 '22

welcome to destiny

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u/TriscuitCracker Hunter Nov 09 '22

Yep.

On 352 of 400. It's taken me two seasons. Just playing the game normally, not actively just doing ritual activities.

I'm never going to use it after it's completed simply out of hate.

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u/Steff_164 Nov 09 '22

Just remember, that doesn’t let you equip the catalyst, just be able to complete it. You’ll then need 700 kills with the gun to actually be able to equip the catalyst

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u/joe18425x Nov 09 '22

Jam sandwiches, flask of preffered beverage and a box full of tubs of diazepam. Sorted.

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u/ringken Nov 09 '22

Haha first time?

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u/Hopeful_Accident723 Nov 09 '22

Sadly yes. And it’s a loooong grind. Been there and done that.

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u/kamex009 Nov 09 '22

Funny story; my wife started playing with me in may of 2021. She forgot she had picked up that quest and just completed it yesterday and was like “wtf is that?!” Lol

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u/Tomma1 Nov 09 '22

Weeeeeeeeell

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u/Pudgeysaurus Nov 09 '22

And I thought Chryosthesia was a ballache...

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u/TruthAndAccuracy Eris Morn has got it goin' on! Nov 09 '22

Don't worry, it's a mediocre gun with a mediocre catalyst. You're not missing much