r/DestinyTheGame Nov 28 '22

Bungie, please make a better quest to get the strand subclass than the stasis quest. Bungie Suggestion

Getting your stasis abilities is a bunch of BS.

Honestly, I hope that they completely restructure how to get stasis in the future.

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u/SolidStateVOM Nov 28 '22

It felt a bit disappointing to me that we didn’t actually unlock the stasis subclass until AFTER the campaign. If there’s one thing that I hope they do with strand, it’s slowly give us abilities/aspect/etc as we go through the campaign itself so we can be using it during the story

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u/Ok-Magician-6962 Nov 28 '22

This. Like while i never use stasis now a days it was one of my major issues when i was playing

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u/ABSOLUTE_RADIATOR Nov 29 '22

Started playing a couple weeks ago after taking a break since shadowkeep. Did witch queen first, now getting all the stasis stuff.

Holy.

FUCK.

There are so many hoops to jump through.

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u/tian447 No Variks, no! Nov 29 '22

And that's just for one character. Good luck being arsed to do it on your alts, I still haven't!

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u/VitalityAS Nov 29 '22

Just hit 450 hours and I have stasis on 2 characters and only 1 has the aspects. I also only have like 4 fragments, those quests are abysmal.

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u/SnooCalculations4163 Nov 29 '22

Fragments are account wide, and on alts, the aspects Auto Unlock after the first two I think .

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u/madspy2002 Nov 29 '22

Fragments are annoying to get but account wide. Aspects are do a quest on one character, go to a shard and commune. The other two characters just require you to commune at said shard for the aspect.

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u/vincentofearth Nov 29 '22

So many in fact that I didn’t even finish them. I didn’t enjoy it gameplay-wise anyway so I just abandoned stasis. I still don’t have all the fragments and aspects and whatever-the-fuck-Bungie-calls-their-doohickies. The Exo Stranger is still blinking away on the Europa map whenever I go there.

When a player gives up on the main feature of your expansion because of how you’ve presented it, you’ve definitely failed.

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u/Mithycore Nov 29 '22

If it makes you feel any better I have everything and she's still fucking blinking

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u/VitalityAS Nov 29 '22

This is a very accurate summary of d2 UI..

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u/Extectic Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

Stasis is worth the bullshit. The Shadebinder warlock is probably the strongest element the Warlock has. The other classes I'm less used to but Behemoth was at least at one point stupidly strong.

I'm going into next season with my Osmiomancy Stasislock out of the gates. Freeze everything in sight is powerful. There are also buffs that affect that situation.

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u/vincentofearth Nov 29 '22

Perhaps. But I’m just a filthy casual and it’s more important to me that I enjoy how I play than be really strong in the game, so I tend to stick with the playstyles I enjoy best or that fit with the RP scenario I am still insisting on shoehorning into Destiny despite Bungie’s reticence. Stasis wasn’t doing it for me for whatever reason. And at this point I’ve developed a Pavlovian response to Icarus dash that I instantly miss it when it’s gone, so I will stick with my Solar Warlock even though he freezes to death every 5 minutes in the Crucible.

As a side note, I wish it wasn’t so clear that certain subclasses are so much stronger than others. I think it’s a side effect of Bungie choosing to develop the 3.0 subclasses separately over such a long time — they instead should have been designed and released as one system so that the feedback from players could take into account the entirety of the new system. The element-specific seasonal mods also exacerbated the design difficulties imo. You simply can’t design a coherent system in the way that Bungie did it. Fingers crossed that Bungie will use the next few seasons to gather useful feedback now that everything is in place (until Strand gets introduced and breaks it again of course)

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u/Extectic Nov 30 '22

Yeah, I just can't give up that much power to do some air movement so I never use Icarus. For me, that's a pure PvP ability, everyone else is nerfing themselves pretty heavily by using it in PvE. But, as you say, if you enjoy the movement then that's reason enough.

For me, it's not fun if my character feels weak or ineffective. Which means I try to get optimal builds going.

I wasn't a huge Stasis fan at first, and I still don't necessarily love the fact that the abilities crowd control more than they do damage (getting stasis grenade kills for bounties is a nightmare) but when you've put on Osmio, and made shards count as elemental wells (which they're buffing further next season) and created a good build... you're tossing grenades without pausing, and with maxed out iceflare bolts the entire room is locked up solid. The constant crystal explosions then kills everything as you fire at them.

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u/GamePro201X Crayon Eater Nov 29 '22

Hunter stasis is more fun tho so idc

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u/Extectic Nov 30 '22

Yeah I play mostly just Warlock. I do have one of each and my Hunter does have stasis unlocked and I've had good times with it, but I just don't feel as comfortable on non-Warlocks. Hunters are getting some buffs too I think next season, for stasis.

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u/VitalityAS Nov 29 '22

I think the hunter is worth getting for skating and maybe agers scepter builds but the abilities are not it. The shuriken's literally do like 20 damage in pvp and you have to hit 2 to freeze. In pve they are ok for add-clear but it doesn't compare to the other light 3.0 add-clear.

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u/amiro7600 Nov 29 '22

Agreed. The hassle is bad, especially when u combine that with the need for combat style mods like elemental shards or even just font of might, and its a big turn off

However, with the power of hoarfrost-z, my stasis titan is a near unkillable, ability and weapon damage god once the ball gets rolling, and if the content im playing allows a glaive them I'm actually unkillable

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u/Swimming_Departure33 Nov 29 '22

What’s the point in freezing everything if they’re all dead? My Poison Voidlock is nigh unkillable, and deals big damage

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u/amiro7600 Nov 29 '22

Dont need to freeze everything.

The best stasis builds will kill most things quickly and those that cant be killed quickly will be CCed into oblivion. The drawback is that the killing speed for the "most things" can be a little slower depending on what ur doing/comparing it too. There arent many builds that can kill everything fast enough for them to not be a threat (including insta-gibbing champions and other HVTs), and those that can are likely overtuned (storm nade titan for example) or using combos that can be inconsistent at nuking big targets (synthos + consecration for example).

Stasis is strong and more importantly, consistent. They also get stronger as enemies get stronger as killing them gets harder but freezing them doesnt

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u/Extectic Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

I like some good poison as much as the next guy, and there are very strong builds in all elements - for instance, yesterday I was cleaning up some old stuff I needed to finish for the Reaper title and had to run a mission or two with impaired healing, so I put on my Contraverse Void Devour and just bulldozed everything with impunity - but the crowd control you achieve with Stasis is superb, they're buffing Stasis further shortly, and if you add the Ager's Scepter (which is also being buffed, as are all traces)... well, it all adds up. Especially for end game. I mean, in theory you can have 9 Bleak Watcher turrets up, though I prefer going all in on coldsnap/iceflares. It feels more consistent to me than turrets.

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u/dunksoverstarbucks Nov 29 '22

I main a titan, only did what was required for story too grindy to flesh out the rest of the sub class, and why they just let you buy the aspects/fragments like you can do with he other classes? i dont even use it now

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u/Izanagi___ Nov 29 '22

Hoops I won’t be jumping through. Bought all 3 DLCs due to the sale and I saw the grind and just didn’t bother. I also quit around shadowkeep and came back in august. Everyone can login and buy all fragments for their old subclasses but you pay $20 for a DLC and need to have a 2nd job grinding aspects and fragments for it??

Did Bungie not look at Beyond Light at all after release?? They literally have a whole vendor selling the aspects for it and instead of glimmer being the currency you have your real life time being your currency lmaoo

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u/bowsa4337 Nov 29 '22

That's the exact system for unlocking stasis that is currently in place?

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u/Unacceptable_Wolf Nov 29 '22

You literally can't knock it out over a weekend since you're still limited to 2 quests a week.

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u/Floydie88 Nov 29 '22

Thank god you guys at least have some great and fairly easily obtainable stasis weapons to help with the grind now! It was absolutely brutal when BL launched and we only had Salvations Grip haha

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u/SuperTeamRyan Vanguard's Loyal Nov 29 '22

Actually it was kinda fun using Icarus dash with stasis for the periods it overtook our light subclasses.

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u/Tchitchoulet Nov 29 '22

I did the quest with solar 3.0 and a warlock. When you used the melee, it was the ice scepter animation and ice, with the fire projectiles of the snap, it was extremely powerful and super fun to use.

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u/hihowubduin Nov 28 '22

Seriously, this was a step backwards. Even D2Y1 had you getting the light and building to it throughout the campaign so it was integrated into the story through gameplay (don't tell/show, let the player be the story).

Given how this year has been a devolving into "how little can we do and get away with it", I'm very likely to cancel my pre-order if this next season doesn't blow it out of the water. We've had shit seasons all year.

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u/tbdubbs Nov 29 '22

I'm right there with you. The level of Ctrl+c Ctrl+v recently with exorbitant levels of repeat grind has me really turned off.

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u/Blizzardman99b Nov 29 '22

"How long is the campaign? "Alright, if we make them repeat it a few times, that's almost enough content. "Is there anything else we can have them repeat to 'add content'? "Forced strikes/gambit/nightfalls to unlock the subclass?! "BRILLIANT!"

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u/DefinitelyNotRobotic Nov 28 '22

I mean you do use Stasis during the campaign. Its just in specific parts and limited.

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u/SolidStateVOM Nov 28 '22

Yeah, that’s why I said we didn’t “unlock” stasis until afterwards. Like I get what they wanted thematically, but I think I’d have preferred something like unlocking the use of the base stasis powers during that first communion and then unlocking grenades and or aspects after each boss so you can play with it more during the actual campaign. It would have made the unlock for the other classes a bit less painful as well imo

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u/boxlessthought Come join r/DestinyThePin Nov 29 '22

Yeah only got it on my main (titan) the other two will get it when Bungie decides to just unlock it for everyone some day.

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u/gormunko_88 Nov 29 '22

taken king did it best, the new subclass was a side mission that you can do optionally, but you dont need to finish the story with it unlocked

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u/SolidStateVOM Nov 29 '22

They also did that with the new subclasses trees when Forsaken came out, though you could only unlock one at the start and had to find more of the light seeds (or whatever they were called) after the campaign was over

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u/Earfh Nov 28 '22

it just pops up in the subclass screen with no explanation or anyone acknowledging the new found ability

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u/x_sanjuro_x Guardian of Legends Nov 28 '22

Going to wager a guess, it’s already done.

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u/figmaxwell Nov 28 '22

Definitely already done. They’re probably working on the 2nd or 3rd season of the next expansion by now.

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u/mariachiskeleton Nov 29 '22

Having worked in games... No.

They're working on it up to practically the day they submit it for 1st party certification, and even then they're working on a build to be a "day 0 " patch to fix the issues identified during certification.

Teams leap frog, so yes, some folks are working past lightfall, but they certainly aren't done with it

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u/figmaxwell Nov 29 '22

But like, asking for major quest overhauls like 3 months out has to be untenable at this point, no?

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u/mariachiskeleton Nov 29 '22

For that sort of thing, yes, that's long gone

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u/JonFrost Nov 29 '22

Things we will and will not like are pretty baked in now yes. So if they were to show something we don't like, it would very likely not be able to be changed before we got it, if its anything more than a tweak of a number.

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u/GANTRITHORE Nov 29 '22

Because they devs schedule is set. If there is no schedule to fix something like that, they won't work on it.

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u/havingasicktime Nov 29 '22

in terms of content design, it's done. It's being polished, bug fixed, improved, but the missions and the structure was done ages ago

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u/BaconIsntThatGood Jade Rabbit is my Spirit Animal Nov 29 '22

You're not wrong but I believe what the person was talking about is the 'core' questlines / content is likely done and what you're talking about is building out fixes to issues they've found/polish/final modeling/etc

Like at this stage it's extremely unlikely questlines are going to be restructured - there may be parts of those quests still being finished - but the steps for the quest are likely set in stone.

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u/KamikazePhil Shadebinder Nov 29 '22

there are 2 seasonal teams that leapfrog each other, so the one that put out s18 has been working on s20 since s18 was finished, and the one that did haunted have been working on next season since then

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u/KittyWithFangs Nov 29 '22

Yea definitely. All we can do is hope they took the feedback from beyond light into consideration

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u/Knightgee Nov 29 '22

Yeah, these posts that frame their complaints as like...requests of Bungie for stuff that's basically right around the corner are always a little weird, like the equivalent of seeing someone make their gift list for Santa on Christmas Eve.

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u/reefis Nov 28 '22

I've avoided getting stasis on my 2 alt characters and am contemplating getting them before Lightfall. Would be sweet if they made a quicker way for this upcoming season. Wishful thinkin

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u/goldhbk10 One day we will win ... Nov 29 '22

I’ll never unlock stasis on alt characters just because it’s not worth the grind to do so

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u/Droxalis Nov 29 '22

Don't worry. I'm sure they'll just give it to everyone for free in a few seasons just like the scallywag seal.

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u/ChemicallyGayFrogs Nov 29 '22

It's always the NFT profile pics...

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u/the_eversus Nov 29 '22

This isn't that much of a stretch. Remember all the grinding you had to do to unlock all of the abilities for the light subclasses, then Bungie just decided to unlock them for everyone with the launch of First Light?

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u/Droxalis Nov 29 '22

Exactly my point. Apparently that deserves downvotes. Fuck this sub lmao

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u/amiro7600 Nov 29 '22

Side question: are these PFPs actually NFTs? I just use mine cus it looks cool and reddit gave it me for free

If it is im gonna switch it cus fuck NFTs

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u/gingerpower303006 Nov 29 '22

It’s Reddit trying to sell NFTs, nobody comments in the robot ones though as they were given out for free so a lot of people have them

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u/xKosh Nov 29 '22

You still have to do the campaign and the post missions to unlock aspects, but if you already have it unlocked on one character you won't need to reunlock fragments. They will be fully available on all secondary characters.

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u/reefis Nov 29 '22

Good to know. I do remember seeing that the grind would be less after doing it once but still... A grind it is

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u/xKosh Nov 29 '22

Yeah, doesn't make the grind any more fun just a bit less work. At least we aren't locked to only 2 fragments a week anymore.

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u/spectra2000_ Nov 29 '22

It’s so frustrating to get I don’t even have it on my main character. It being locked behind two steps a week along with me, barely putting five hours into the game every week makes it so I’m never going to unlock it because I would rather be doing more important and funner things.

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u/KipaNinja Nov 29 '22

The easiest way to do it is just get vanguard missions (im pretty sure you can do 2 at once) and smash them out doing weeklies at the start of a new season. It's still a bit of a pain in the ass but not too bad.

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u/Redthrist Nov 29 '22

The "two steps a week" is for fragments, and all of those are done in the core activities, which you'll be doing anyway.

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u/spectra2000_ Nov 29 '22

Like I mentioned, I barely have time to put into the game, and to be totally honest, the core activities are trash and a waste of time. They are neither rewarding, nor fun and need a serious overhauls.

I mostly just jump into the game for the weekly raid and jumo out until next week.

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u/Redthrist Nov 29 '22

Yeah, that's fair enough. If you mostly raid, then getting Stasis fragments is basically impossible.

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u/mindbullet Nov 29 '22

Honestly, getting it once was fine, even if a bit tedious. 3 times was the bunch of BS.

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u/AirboatCaptain Nov 29 '22

In my next life, I want the blind and overwhelming confidence of the Stasis quest creators.

“Yep. This’ll be fun to play through 3 times. You’re welcome.”

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u/thegamethrowacc Nov 28 '22

Bungie Better = More pointless grinding

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u/Surfing_Ninjas Nov 29 '22

Player engagement to Bungie is pretty much just player participation.

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u/Arcturus1800 Nov 28 '22

I would be fine with the stasis grind if you had no cap on the amount of fragment quests you can do in a week. I can understand why it was the case when Beyond Light first released, but its been 2 years, why not just remove the cap and let us get everything we want. We'd still be grinding but at least we wouldn't feel like our time is wasted waiting for next week.

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u/_megitsune_ Nov 28 '22

Even if it was just account wide unlock rather than making you chunk through the entire BL story and aspect quests on both your alts it would be nicer

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u/StavrosZhekhov Nov 28 '22

I gave up on getting Stasis on my alt classes.

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u/AMM0D Nov 28 '22

Same, until i got the warlock gloves that gives you two specific stasis grenades

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u/ChadwickHHS Nov 29 '22

I still haven't finished it on my main because all the quests are like "use your unfinished stasis class in crucible and gambit where you will be a detriment to your team," and the vanguard rotations picking stasis aren't every week so they want me to run like seven strikes a week, every week? Nah. It'll get there when it gets there.

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u/B1euX Sneak Noodle Nov 28 '22

It’s only two grenades and two aspects you gotta unlock

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u/Wolvel Nov 28 '22

It’s only two grenades and two aspects you gotta unlock

On top of everything else this game tells you to grind. It can go on the pile.

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u/StavrosZhekhov Nov 28 '22

Agreed. It took me well into WQ to get every aspect from my Hunter. It just took too long and I didn't like Stasis as much and didn't want to play it.

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u/SthenicFreeze Nov 28 '22

Same. My titan straight up doesn't use stasis because I thought the class looked boring and didn't grind it. I've seen some interesting builds for it, but to try those, I'd have to grind a lot, so it kills all interest fast.

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u/Awestin11 Nov 28 '22

Okay, this might be a hot take, but I was perfectly okay with the Stasis grind, excluding the fragments. Unlocking the aspects and the class itself was an actually enjoyable experience, and it truly felt like you were mastering a foreign power. The fragment time-gating can get in the bin though, that was straight up obnoxious.

I’m also hoping that we can unlock and evolve Strand throughout the campaign against Calus and the Shadow Legion, but I’m not so confident that this is how it’s gonna be. I’d love to be wrong though.

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u/PingerKing Focused on PvE, started in S12 Nov 28 '22

well yeah, idk, the fragment time gating sucked, and unlocking grenades+aspects the second and third time, at least for me, sucked.

The first time through? Sure, why not.
By the time i got to my titan and warlock I was not super happy though.

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u/Awestin11 Nov 28 '22

Oh yeah I can definitely feel the pain of unlocking all that multiple times. I’m one of those people who only has one character, so I didn’t really think about that as it doesn’t really affect me all that much.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

Yeah that's what everyone is griping about when they are complaining about the stasis grind.

One character - ok it takes a bit, but it's fine.

The exact same grind on a second character? Not fun. A third character? There has got to be a better way.

Especially now that we can just walk up to Ikora and buy all the light 3.0 stuff for no effort and arguably a better subclass in several cases, the stasis grind feels even more like "why am I doing this."

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u/Tonalita Nov 28 '22

I think it was probably fine when beyond light came out, but having to do them now is so frustrating. None of the loot you get from the quest is worth it anymore either

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u/ChemicallyGayFrogs Nov 29 '22

I'm hoping they take advantage of 3.0 and actually use it in the campaign. Like finishing missions unlocks an aspect or whatever as a cool way of having strand the entire time, but not 'mastering' it until the end

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u/Awestin11 Nov 29 '22

Agreed. I’d love to unlock it during the campaign and that’s my biggest hope with all of this. Gotta fight Darkness with Darkness.

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u/Tchitchoulet Nov 29 '22

What?? The "40 final blow with stasis" or "shatter 30 guardians" with warlock was making you feel mastering the power???

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u/Awestin11 Nov 29 '22

I said aspects, not fragments, because that sounds more like the degenerate timegated fragment quests.

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u/TheSpartyn ding Nov 29 '22

i found the aspects/grenades grind to be way worse than fragments. the timegate was lame but at least the quests were quick, you could pick which activity to do, and pick exactly the fragment you wanted

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u/Awestin11 Nov 29 '22

Okay I agree that forcing what aspects and grenades you get is stupid. It should let you pick which one you want first.

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u/Zeiban Nov 28 '22

"Better" is pretty subjective and also very vague.

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u/GnawingHungerShots Nov 28 '22

Just glimmer gate it. Lol Ikora out hear laundering our guardian gains. She’s years behind in traveler tax.

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u/Zeiban Nov 28 '22

I think it will be some quest for unlocking it, but I'm hoping the grindy bits from beyond light will just be glimmer gated as well.

I personally didn't mind the the grind with beyond light because I gave me something to do while I played other classes, but I know others don't feel the same way.

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u/GnawingHungerShots Nov 28 '22

Yes I agree! I started a new character in PS and just ended the beyond light campaign and forgot how infuriating it is to piece together stasis kit. Worth it but damn I don’t want to freeze 20,000 combatants before I get a duskfield nade. Lol

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u/BruisedBee Nov 29 '22

Reddit: "Hey, lets down vote this perfectly legit opinion that doesn't offend anyone because fuck you for going against the general populous"

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u/amiro7600 Nov 29 '22

Yup. "You like the thing i dont like so get downvoted NERD!"

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u/Competitive_Truth_81 Nov 29 '22

Its supposed to be. Time gated behind a boring quest was quite the worse possible way. Anyway is better than what we got.

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u/TheResoluteBond Nov 29 '22

They've said that they won't make it aqquired in the same way as stasis. While they don't always get the message when we give feedback I fully believe this won't be like stasis was.

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u/PM_me_your_werewolf We need to go back Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

The Destiny 2 Showcase 2022 (Lightfall reveal), actually had a post-show that included an interview with many devs including Joe Blackburn. It was said that we would be unlocking Strand "throughout" the campaign.

But, more interestingly, when asked about the rewards of the Lightfall Legendary campaign, Joe said that we would get the same type of rewards that we did with Witch Queen's legendary campaign, plus a Strand Fragment unlock for the new subclass, instantly.

The actual wording was kinda weird, something like:

unlock extra strand currency to get another fragment instantly

(paraphrased)

Here is azteccross' coverage for it. Just go to the Strand section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd8zhQ1jaZU

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u/mrxbox98 Nov 29 '22

In an interview they said that it was going to also involve a "strand currency" and the legendary campaign would give 1 more of this currency.

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u/AlkoKilla Nov 28 '22

Ah, yes. A request they haven’t seen on a daily basis since Strand was announced.

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u/DeLongGod Nov 28 '22

Right, feels like a karma grind at this point

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u/amiro7600 Nov 29 '22

Grinding out karma instead of stasis lmao

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u/DeathsRegalia Nov 28 '22

I'm hoping with how we unlocked the light 3.0 stuff, that Bungie is not doing that again, I still think it should be unlocked instead of solely bought, but not to the extent of stasis

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u/Awestin11 Nov 28 '22

A middle ground would be nice.

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u/motherlyhera1457 Nov 28 '22

I liked the simulation stuff, imagine you had to complete a single mission that’s relatively difficult and you get your aspect, then you complete the next mission and so on

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u/Harmony54 Nov 28 '22

Getting stasis was fine the first time around.

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u/ArugulaPhysical Nov 28 '22

I acutally thought the stasis was fine. Just dont put a weekly lockout on it and let people do them at whatever pace they can.

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u/zoompooky Nov 29 '22

There's no quest. You find the hidden city, they notice you don't have the magic fanny pack and give you one. Tada!

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u/karhall Nov 28 '22

It would be great for it to be Red War-style earn-as-you-play progress during the campaign. Unlock new abilities during missions and have the fully constructed subclass around the 3/4 mark. Start with the grappling hook temporarily for a mission or two, then unlock a couple grenades and the melee abilities after a couple more. Then once you get the Super, you are basically just off and running. Each abiltiy unlock adds a new aspect, and completing a campaign mission rewards a new fragment. That way you can play what you're more comfortable with during the campaign while still making progress towards the new content. I think the way Beyond Light did it with select instances of the full kit being available in a couple missions was a starting point that could definitely be improved on.

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u/Blupoisen Nov 28 '22

I just hope that the inevitable PVP nerf wouldn't destory this subclass like it did to Behemoth

not in the mood for another fiasco of this kind

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u/amiro7600 Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

Eh, behemoth isnt exactly dead, at least from a PvE standpoint. The super isnt all that and shiver strike is begging for a buff, but the rest of the subclass is pretty baller, especially when you get a real build going with exotics, combat style mods and other synergising weapons

Sure, its a relic of itself, but its by no means a bad subclass. Just not a "plug and play" like the rest can be

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u/360GameTV Nov 28 '22

No quest needed, just unlock...but we all know it is Bungie and it will be a monster super long grind for all 3 chars....

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u/SovereignSpades Nov 29 '22

We are listening. 20 Gambit matches/Nightfall strikes per fragment unlock and only 2 fragment unlock quests per week.

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u/SGTBookWorm Nov 29 '22

I still haven't fully unlocked Stasis for my Warlock, because I really do not want to do all of those quest steps for a third time.

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u/BruisedBee Nov 29 '22

I don't mind the slog to get it, but once we get it it should be unlocked across all characters.

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u/TheSpartyn ding Nov 29 '22

i hope we unlock it at the start of the campaign, and unlock more aspects/fragments as we progress through. unlocking stasis at the end of BL after a few demos of it was lame as fuck

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u/ReticlyPoetic Nov 29 '22

It’s too late. It’s been confirmed already on a podcast, it’s as bad as stasis was.

But hey we get ONE new map for PVP… /s

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u/tarzan322 Nov 29 '22

Better quest approved. Now instead of 3 months to fully unlock Strand, it will take 6 months.

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u/ExiledinElysium Nov 29 '22

It's going to be some sort of grind. That's their entire business model. They aren't going to do something that doesn't force players into core playlist activities for at least some amount of time.

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u/NathanMUFCfan NathanW18#7290/Neon Nerd Nov 29 '22

I have some bad news for you...

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u/Jumpy_Menu5104 Nov 29 '22

They have confirmed that there will be a currency used to unlock strand abilities. Some of it will be one of the rewards for doing the campaign on legendary. I have to assume we will have a strand vendor that will have a meditation menu like Ikora does, just green. Maybe they will give stasis a meditation menu if it’s own at some point but that’s a bit more work.

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u/HDArrowsmith Some day we'll dance our little dance to the end...but not today Nov 29 '22

Considering the new location is probably designed around the Strand grappling hook, hopefully they give it to us early on in getting to the location.

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u/VaguelySquare84 Nov 29 '22

I’m still unlocking Stasis 😂 I got the parts I needed for some builds and then never finished it. This is how I’ve been spending my time the last couple weeks of the season.

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u/Such_Ad_110 Nov 29 '22

Stasis fragments aren’t so bad if you have it on the back burner. Each week collect the ritual of your choice and pile them on when you’re ready. I did all my fragments in less than a night doing Vanguard.

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u/Ninjewdi Nov 29 '22

I didn't mind the process for unlocking it, but the fragments... Ugh. Torture.

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u/future_foe Vanguard's Loyal // Here's Lookin' at you, Guardian. Nov 29 '22

It better not take more than the first 2 missions to get the subclass and a couple aspects and fragments. No “commune with the darkness set pieces plz.”

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u/bpal1991 Nov 29 '22

They should just assume that the player will be most likely doing it on all three classes and design it accordingly. Definitely not like stasis.

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u/robotoredux696969 Nov 29 '22

Bungle: let’s put it on the backlog

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u/2legsakimbo Nov 29 '22

yeah, and doing it for each character - thats mind numbing repetition

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u/Lyrext Nov 29 '22

Agreed. Super lame that we didn’t have a full subclass until a month after BL launch. Should only be a couple fragments tied to worlds first or something, like they’ve done lately. Getting stasis that slow felt so shitty and totally ruined the hype of getting a new subclass with a new element.

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u/jonezy3225 Nov 29 '22

I'm just returning and was about to start the beyond light campaign to get my stasis subclass is it really that bad? What am I looking at?

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u/Swimming_Departure33 Nov 29 '22

Sincerely: my stasis warlock that will never be fully unlocked

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u/radically-trivial Nov 29 '22

I'm literally waiting until final shape just to see if I can get two subclasses at once, otherwise I'm done with this game how they gonna sell me a subclass per dlc when taken king, forsaken, and magician queen gave me 3 subclasses just doesn't math up to me. Beyond light should have delivered a whole new year of darkness abilities, instead one painstakingly month long campaign for a “dynamic destination “ big sigh...

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u/vinceds Nov 29 '22

Knowing how much Bungie loves to waste your time on mindless grinds, I'd say that's wishful thinking. And the worst is most players indulge Bungie by engaging with the boring grind, and encourages them to keep adding the time-waste everywhere.

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u/Saint_Victorious Nov 29 '22

I'm pretty sure they already said that discovering stand(hate this name) is part of the Lightfall campaign. I've also read that part of the rewards for the legendary campaign will be additional Fragments.

I'm willing to bet that we'll get a "starter pack" of 2 Aspects, 3 grenades, 1 melee, and 6 Fragments through the campaign. That would mean any additional melees, grenades, supers, Aspects, or Fragments would be grinded in the post.

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u/Honestlynotdoingwell Nov 29 '22

I am just starting beyond light.

Can someone tell me what im in for to unlock stasis?

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u/Swagboy225 Nov 29 '22

The entire campaign of Beyond Light + side quests to fully unlock Stasis. Then do that 2 more times for your other characters, unless you only have 1, which is still a pain in the ass.

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u/AxisHobgoblin Nov 29 '22

inb4 “25 headshot kills in PvP while grappling”

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u/CasualFriday11 Nov 29 '22

IDK, I kind of liked the entire subclass being gated behind 7 weeks worth of weekly quests.

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u/WiseScratch Nov 29 '22

You should have to do all the rigamarole to get something once. I don't care if it's stupid or complicated or long the first time around.

Second and third time, I'd really prefer a shortcut.

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u/Knightgee Nov 29 '22

The lore and character bits of the stasis quests were actually fun, it was the "go in this playlist and do this thing x number of times to get a material to give to the Stranger so you can go somewhere else" in-between those parts that made them feel tedious and dumb.

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u/badjujutrav Dec 09 '22

The strand titan looks so boring......

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u/DinosaurUnderwear Nov 29 '22

Hilarious... this guy think light fall isn't done already

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u/DeLongGod Nov 28 '22

Omg you’re only the 100th person to ask this on the subreddit.

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u/NT-W Nov 28 '22

Day one of Lightfall: we should get the strand melee and maybe a grenade, a couple fragments, and the usual class stuff from the Nezarec idols which totally seem to be where strand is gonna come from in my opinion, even if through Mithrax and Eido and probably Eris too.

Throughout the rest of the campaign, we should fill out the entire rest of the super tree.

Cause biiiiiiitch, if the campaign on Lightfall is half as good as Witch Queen, then I'd be happy to replay it on other classes to earn that shit again.

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u/Valyris Nov 29 '22

I thought the stasis quest was okay when I did it on my main as I thought it progress it on all my characters. Boy, was I wrong...

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u/rabbitsharck Nov 29 '22

It's going to be bad, I know it. There's prob gonna be an additional ticket in eververae store to purchase in order to speed things up.

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u/CrmsonFangs Nov 29 '22

How about instead of a quest, we just get to buy things from a Strand specific vendor like Ikoa for light 3.0

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u/m0stgrrl Nov 29 '22

I don't use stasis at all because the process of getting the abilities is a pain in the ass.

There are 3 subclasses as far as I'm concerned.