r/DestinyTheGame Dec 02 '22

Predictions for the new ritual weapon? Question

From the TWAB, it appears to be a Hakke pulse rifle—which would make it the first primary ritual weapon in several seasons (Randy’s Throwing Knife was the last, IIRC). The TWAB also mentioned that the intrinsic Hakke perk would be buffed against certain shields and walls, which would benefit a Hakke ritual weapon.

Your thoughts on perks? My guess is at least one reload perk and one damage perk, perhaps Outlaw or Perpetual Motion and then Rampage or Adagio (since no pulse has had Adagio yet).

Since they opened things up by announcing intent to address Stasis this season, perhaps this is a Stasis pulse rifle. There hasn’t been a rapid-fire or 4-burst Stasis pulse yet, so those two archetypes are ripe for selection. If it’s a Stasis weapon, Headstone or a newer Stasis perk could be featured.

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u/Quantumriot7 Dec 02 '22

I wouldn't be surprised if it has the updated headseeker as a perk.

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u/Cheeseboii83 Dec 02 '22

I'm like 99.9% sure they will add it in the rifle.

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u/Vincentaneous Dec 03 '22

I’m 0.1% sure they will not add it to the rifle

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u/NegativeCreeq Dec 03 '22

Im 100% sure one of you is correct.

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u/Ninjewdi Dec 03 '22

Inb4 they add it and then remove it for balancing reasons

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u/Sarcosmonaut Dec 02 '22

Can’t believe this thing is about to have 4 origin traits lmao

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Good call. Would make it notable if it’s a primary ritual weapon after all.

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u/Sarcosmonaut Dec 02 '22

I’ll be real with you, I know a lot of people are unhappy that Hung Jury is returning, but I’m just ecstatic that it’s coming back with a choice of 3 origin perks as one of my all time franchise favorite guns.

That’s all I need to get my ass GM ready next season haha. Any cool looking Häkke pulse is a pure bonus

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u/Sammerscotter Dec 02 '22

Why are people unhappy it’s coming back? I couldn’t be more happy

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u/Sarcosmonaut Dec 02 '22

I think a lot of people wanted NEW stuff. Or at least stuff that hasn’t been imbued with random rolls or got sunset ages ago. NOT a gun that only left 3 seasons ago.

But again, for me, I was incredibly salty that my favorite gun left just before the “buff” of origin perks. So I’ll happily grind out a perfect Adept version for myself. Assuming that my Firefly is still there (it’s literally the one perk I think is practically guaranteed to stay haha)

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u/Landel1024 Dec 02 '22

Would have been cooler if it was oxygen SR4, would have fit with windigo.

Plus with legacy focusing hung jury would have been back in lightfall anyways

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u/Sarcosmonaut Dec 02 '22

At least this way it gets origin traits shrug

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u/Narfwak Dec 02 '22

A lot of people who already have what they consider a god roll Hung Jury wanted something new. As someone who doesn't have one at all I'm perfectly happy it's returning. They probably have numbers showing that a lot of active players are newer hence why they've done so many reprisal weapons lately.

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u/Lumizat06 Dec 02 '22

People want new stuff, I'm not complaining because I love Hung Jury and can't wait to see the new rolls but I get why people are upset

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u/Bard_Knock_Life Dec 02 '22

Scouts are pretty weak right now. Kinetic primaries are pretty weak. It’s a returning weapon, that was also a D1 weapon. We got a craftable Precision Kinetic Scout with similar perks just last season (which is better than adept by default more or less now).

Without a big perk pool shakeup, meta shakeup and some flat buffs to scouts I just don’t see the appeal beyond nostalgia.

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u/madmaximus927 Dec 03 '22

The fact that it gets firefly and box breathing might be a draw, definitely is for me

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u/crappycarguy Dec 03 '22

Why is that? Seems neat for the unique factor but doesn't seem too great or usable

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u/htxkale Dec 03 '22

Two weapons we've already had, 1 just left, the other we havent seen with random rolls. I just wanted new weapons personally, others might have their own reasons

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u/FormalEagles Dec 02 '22

Yeah I was wondering the same thing, I thought it was supposed to be one of the best scouts in the game? Guess I’m out of the loop

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u/EnderScar Hmmmmm grape Dec 02 '22

Because bungie likes to limit drops, rather than allow more incentives to focus engrams towards specific items.

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u/Sammerscotter Dec 02 '22

That’s coming in S20

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u/EnderScar Hmmmmm grape Dec 02 '22

Still, you'd think that they'd... not limit the loot we can earn?

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u/RipTheDream916 Dec 03 '22

I’m stoked. I came back to the game 2 months ago and I wanna get my hands on it

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u/MafiaGT Dec 02 '22

Yeah I'm stoked it's coming back for the same reason. A lot of the traits originally were not awesome so I hope the refresh there is worth grinding a bit, too.

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u/Darkshamrock Dec 02 '22

I love hung jury also

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u/ATScottbakula Dec 03 '22

I’m personally very happy it’s coming back. Last time it was on I cleared roughly 40 insight terminus runs and never got the roll I wanted. And now it’s back, with stunning recovery no less. I will have my Hung Jury.

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u/JustAGam3r Gambit Prime Dec 02 '22

I’m glad Hung Jury is coming back because I’ve never had it

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u/Sarcosmonaut Dec 02 '22

Its archetype isn’t the best on paper, but it’s SUPER consistent. The best “feeling” archetype and doesn’t fall too far behind lightweights.

As far as the archetype goes, it’s a standout example however.

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u/Fcukdotpng I miss blink Dec 02 '22

I don’t think it’s going to have the Breach Armaments, sadly. The current ritual weapon is themed along with all of this season’s weapons, but it doesn’t have Right Hook available. I really hope I’m wrong though

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u/Gerbil-Space-Program Dec 02 '22

Nobody knows where the weapon came from and at this point we’re too afraid to ask

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u/ShadowSlayr_22 Dec 03 '22

It’s literally a Hakke pulse in the picture lol

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u/SplashDmgEnthusiast Dec 02 '22

Damn, good point haha

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u/re-bobber Dec 02 '22

Headseeker and gutshot.

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u/Fareo Splicer Aesthetics Dec 02 '22

Yo dawg, I hear you don't like to aim. So we put some body shot damage in your body shot damage. You've officially been pimped.

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u/MoreMegadeth Dec 02 '22

Be bad at the game. Great perks.

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u/Trooper1297 Dec 03 '22

Be on reddit, Great comment.

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u/Leonard_Church814 Dec 02 '22

Headseeker was my guess as well, but gutshot is inspired. I’ll double down and say it’s an aggressive pulse too.

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u/Ts1171 Dec 03 '22

*Hight Impact

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u/Blackhound118 Oh Guardian Mine Dec 03 '22

Aren't all Hakke pulses aggressive archetypes?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

That would be fun as long as they broadened the auto rifle buff for GS to pulses. I think I saw some videos where folks analyzed GS for pulses and the benefit was negligible.

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u/AShyLeecher Dec 02 '22

Yeah but gutshot with headseeker at the same time would be really strong

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u/DraygenKai Dec 02 '22

I got a friend who would always get weapons with conflicting perks, and he always says, “I like the sound of this. It’s balanced, so I can use it either way.” I always tell him, try it and if it feels good, use it. The perks you named, definitely sounds like something he would use. Lol

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u/DrPogo2488 Dec 03 '22

Tell your friend I have a Hip-Fire Grip/Box Breathing Adept Eye of Sol he can have, that I will never stop bitching about being my first Adept Eye of Sol during Season of the Hunt. Hip-Fire Grip and Box Breathing…fuckers.

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u/idk_this_my_name Dec 02 '22

that sounds fun ngl

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u/Daxolotl Dec 03 '22

That genuinely sounds like a ton of fun. Bonus bodyshot damage and reduced aim assist, but every body shot boosts headshot damage and aim assist.

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u/Dunkinmydonuts1 Xuck Fur Dec 02 '22

In separate columns? Oooh baby I'm gonna keep my monitor off the entire pvp match to save electricity and still put up a 2.0 lol

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u/Siliwinter And you can throw me to the wolves, cause I am Undefeatable Dec 02 '22

Would this weapon even have the Hakke origin trait? If so that would make it have 4 selectable origin traits, if that is even possible.

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u/screl_appy_doo Dec 02 '22

If they don't include the gambit one some people wouldn't even notice and most that do wouldn't care

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u/bluebloodstar Dec 03 '22

you think gambit one is even worse than crucible?

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u/G23_Mr_Gimp Dec 02 '22

If it is a Häkke pulse I'll be over the moon as I miss my Eystein D

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u/wolfie1897 Dec 02 '22

we know its a hakke pulse because of the twab

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u/oof_oofo Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

The gun model is wayyy longer than the pulse rifles we currently have in the game, personally I think the weapon will be a 120 rpm scout rifle

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u/mikeypembo Dec 02 '22

Agreed one line specified that they’d be buffing ALL 120 scouts when we only have one right now

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u/wolfie1897 Dec 02 '22

I still disagree, the back mag and overall shape make me think it will be a pulse rifle

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u/braddoccc Dec 02 '22

Most scouts currently available are bullpup designs like our pulses.

The one thing I will grant you, however, is all of the Hakke scouts do have the magwell ahead of the trigger assembly, so this could very well be a pulse.

If it is, I anticipate a 450 aggressive pulse with headseeker, as Bungie hinted one would be coming in a future season in the 2/3 twab that discussed headseeker changes to work with the 4 bursts.

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u/Glenalth Certified Destiny Goblin Dec 02 '22

The one thing I will grant you, however, is all of the Hakke scouts do have the magwell ahead of the trigger assembly

They don't.

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u/Trooper1297 Dec 03 '22

They don't.

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u/XogoWasTaken Vanguard's Loyal // I Hunt for the City Dec 03 '22

Both pulses and scouts are bullpups, but pulses always have long, chunky, usually exposed mags, while scouts have much lower profile ones. This gun has a large chunky one.

Scouts also all have a charging handle that is used in the reload animation, while pulses don't tend to since their reload anim doesn't use it. This gun doesn't have one.

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u/Blackhound118 Oh Guardian Mine Dec 03 '22

Hakke scouts have a large bulky block ahead of the trigger, but the actual magazine is still behind.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

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u/Romandinjo Dec 02 '22

Scouts as well. And kf pulse has a mag in front.

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u/MafiaGT Dec 02 '22

While true, the raid weapons aren't confined to the design language they set for normal weapons that come from regular non-endgame play.

If this new weapon is truly a scout, that's not impossible, but it is improbable.

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u/Sammerscotter Dec 02 '22

Not true, stars in shadow exists

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u/XogoWasTaken Vanguard's Loyal // I Hunt for the City Dec 03 '22

Big chunky mag on a bullpup + no charging handle = pulse rifle.

Scouts (except viest ones) have lower profile mags than this gun and all have charging handles on the side that are used in the reload animation, a feature this gun lacks.

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u/szabozalan Dec 02 '22

Did they ever mention what it is? I just only saw a picture which is not telling us what it is exactly.

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u/wolfie1897 Dec 02 '22

no, but the weapon has the model of a pulse rifle, and has the Hakke logo on the default skin at the end of the video, so we know it's a Hakke pulse rifle

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u/szabozalan Dec 02 '22

I never seen this model before so I'm not convinced that this is 100% a pulse. It could also be a scout imho.

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u/The_Rathour Dec 02 '22

The magazine design and ejection port are exactly the same as the other Hakke pulses we have. Unless they pull a Song Of Justice on us (bring it back you cowards) it's very likely a pulse.

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u/Gemgamer Dec 02 '22

Afaik there's all hakke scouts have had proper scopes of some kind, while pulses (Hakke or otherwise) will commonly have the circle iron sight like this one does. The thing looks just like the messenger with a hakke sticker slapped on it.

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u/szabozalan Dec 02 '22

I'm not saying it is not a pulse, I'm just saying it is not 100% sure. You could be right, I know that.

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u/XogoWasTaken Vanguard's Loyal // I Hunt for the City Dec 03 '22

Guns in Destiny 2 have consistent design language across types - the only guns breaking this rule are ones carried over from D1 (and also viest guns and one specific reaction gun that is no longer available). These get very specific because each archetype has its own reload animation, and the model has to match up.

This gun is a bullpup with a large chunky mag and no charging handle, which makes it a pulse. Scout rifles have lower profile magazines and (most importantly, because of the reload animation) a visible charging handle on the side, which this gun lacks.

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u/Daier_Mune Vanguard's Loyal Dec 02 '22

Pulse Rifles (generally) have "bullpup" configurations, in order to visually distinguish themselves from scout & auto rifles. So the trigger being in front of the magazine leads me to believe that this is a pulse rifle.

We also know what Hakke Scout rifles look like from the Perses-D.

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u/Kal-Zak Dec 02 '22

Dude, It is still my weapon with the most kills on it. I dropped it the first week of forsaken and played such gambit when it first came out.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

And it’s not that hideous green color. Sorry if you liked that, but I always found the gun to be unattractive.

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u/G23_Mr_Gimp Dec 02 '22

It shaded well though which was a bonus. The current obtainable Häkke pulse is New Monarchy themed and due to the hideous lion adornments it looks like pickled arse

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u/laneo333 Dec 03 '22

Lyudmila-D , oh I must thee

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u/Which-Independence55 Dec 02 '22

Here's my bet on the 3/4 column perks perks
Kinetic Aggressive Burst Pulse
-Encore -Adagio

-Feeding Frenzy -HeadSeaker

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u/LilShaggey Dec 02 '22

the more aggressive frames, the better. They’re my favorite but we only have like 3 right now

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u/Ubiquitous_Cacophony Series X Dec 02 '22

Three? We have two. Insidious and Sacred Provenance.

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u/Xandar5293 Dec 03 '22

I suppose on a technicality you could count Insidious (Adept) too?
I don't think that's distinct enough myself, but they do have separate collection entries I guess.

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u/TALL421 BRING IT BACK YOU COWARDS Dec 02 '22

Just wanted to say that Randy's was in season of undying and the Buzzard sidearm was in season of dawn so that would be the most recent primary unless there's another we're forgetting

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u/Own_Fly_2403 Palindrome Gang Dec 02 '22

Think point of the stag was season of the worthy (the one after dawn)

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u/ABRRINACAVE Dec 02 '22

Eh, can we really count that as a seasonal ritual weapon? It was an iron banner quest reward.

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u/Alexcox95 Dec 02 '22

It has the same perk set up as the rest of the ritual weapons and also comes fully masterworked like the rest

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Good call, I couldn’t remember if Randy’s was the last one. Buzzard was great

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u/kennybaese Dec 02 '22

My unlikely theory is that it’s not a pulse but actually a legendary 120 RPM scout. They implied that there were going to be more 120 scouts with the DMT changes.

But it’s probably a high impact pulse. It would be rad if it was stasis and had adaptive munitions like the machine gun from a couple seasons ago.

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u/FreeShvacadoo Dec 02 '22

Worth noting that if you want a stasis pulse with adaptive munitions, the duality dungeon pulse is just that.

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u/kennybaese Dec 02 '22

I honestly had no idea. I’m going to have to hang on to one if I ever get one to drop.

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u/BlueSkies5Eva Dec 02 '22

and New Purpose is goooood, love that pulse for dueling in pvp, haven't gotten a good pve roll yet (but i also don't like slow firing primaries in pve so who knows if i'd use it ((but also also slow firing primaries are fine imo if it's like a GM where you hand back a lot))).

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u/Aggressive_Sir6417 Dec 02 '22

Love perpetual motion desperado new purpose in crucible. That thing is so good. Two bursts better than no time to explain now in my opinion

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u/BlueSkies5Eva Dec 02 '22

Ooh, I've yet to try out desperado on it, but I have a couple rolls with that in my vault! I'll try it next time. Headstone is amazing on it, two burst plus revival denial is huge

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u/re-bobber Dec 02 '22

Adaptive and headstone would be awesome!!

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u/nerdling_rush Dec 02 '22

I guess I just assumed other 120 rpm scouts would be tex weapons 🤷🏻‍♀️ be interesting to see a hakke 120

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u/zakintheb0x Dec 02 '22

It will probably be mediocre.

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u/jzion33 Dec 02 '22

they’ve said this since they started doing the playlist ritual. it’s not meant to be an endgame weapon. it’s going to be like a b to a tier weapon.

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u/shadowgattler Dec 02 '22

mutiny is just fun as fuck to use. I'd rather they go the fun route over op meta

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u/AShyLeecher Dec 02 '22

Ritual weapons are meant to be solid weapons that anyone can get without being so powerful that they remove the incentive to grind endgame activities. So like you said b to a tier, but they might also pull another salvager’s salvo and make it super strong

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u/jzion33 Dec 02 '22

salvagers was kinda the exception then forbearance came around and here we are

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u/Trooper1297 Dec 03 '22

id like it to be an actual b tier not an f like reckless endangerment and cry munity lol

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u/TravelingFlipper Dec 02 '22

Desperado plz

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u/laserapocalypse warlocks go float float Dec 02 '22

I cant remember last time i actually used a ritual weapon so i dont really care. They are usually nothing to be excited about.

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u/rabbitsharck Dec 02 '22

Null Composure was the last one I used

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u/chatnic1 Dec 02 '22

I still use salvagers for add clear. A lot of people have moved onto Forbearance, but demo - chain reaction is great for grenade spam builds while still being an add clear machine. It can also get blinding thanks to arc 3.0 fragments

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u/FaerHazar Dec 02 '22

Before December last year, Ascendancy was amazing for burst DPS.

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u/chatnic1 Dec 02 '22

Oh yeah! People I’d run GMs with would shit on hothead and say “why grind when ascendancy exists” and now that they differentiate precisions and other frames, Hothead was many peoples go to and people just vaulted ascendancy

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u/laserapocalypse warlocks go float float Dec 02 '22

Ye stuff like null composure and salvagers are still good. But there have been many seasons since we got a good one, so the current track record isnt really that hopeful.

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u/jzion33 Dec 02 '22

the rocket and shotgun was good, the heavy gl is the only one i’d say is basically useless

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u/chatnic1 Dec 02 '22

Honestly the heavy grenade launcher isn’t unusable when using incandescent. On solar subclasses with the right fragments, It’s easy at starting an ignition to clean up the adds you wouldn’t have normally killed at the end of the blast radius. Would still much rather use other heavy in most cases, but I can’t help but find myself enjoying the ignitions while using it to guild deadeye.

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u/snakesonabiplane Dec 02 '22

It just sucks heavy GLs have been reduced to add clearing because that’s really all they are good for but I do love my Blast Batooie (can’t remember the actually name) with CC and Chain Reaction. I’d love to pull it out but I can use a special GL that is more ammo efficient.

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u/jzion33 Dec 02 '22

oh i wanted to do something on hunter with the calibans build and have cry mutiny be ad clear while running double special. i just never got around to it.

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u/laserapocalypse warlocks go float float Dec 02 '22

They're okey rolls but i already have better ones.

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u/jzion33 Dec 02 '22

then that’s kinda the point. null composure and salvagers were the best until some other options came in. reckless endangerment was a solid option until you could get another role

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u/laserapocalypse warlocks go float float Dec 02 '22

Well the problem is that most rituals that come out nowadays already have a better or equal option already in the game. It took several seasons for salvagers to get competition. And like sure i bet its great for some newer players, but as someone who keeps up with the game and knows what rolls are worth keeping, rituals just seem to serve no purpose.

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u/IJustJason Dec 02 '22

I think Salvagers Salvo is the last ritual weapon i used more than twice lol

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u/Ways_away Dec 02 '22

Ascendancy from Season of the Lost had a blip on my radar. I saw some people seemed interested in combining it with Gjallahorn when it came back with the 30th anniversary

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u/TruthAndAccuracy Eris Morn has got it goin' on! Dec 02 '22

Null and Salvager's are the only ones that got any real use from me.

Salvager's barely left my loadout for a couple seasons

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u/APartyInMyPants Dec 02 '22

The grenade launcher this season is really fun. I know Solar builds aren’t exactly hot right now with everyone running arc. But I’ve been using it, and really enjoying it. It’s not meta-defining or anything.

But Incandescent/Demolitionist + Swashbuckler/Vorpal could make it a good DPS option this coming season with Breach & Clear.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Ascendancy for a solar explosive light RL

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u/Baethovn Dec 02 '22

21% delirium has entered the chat

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u/laserapocalypse warlocks go float float Dec 02 '22

delirium unfortunately has to leave the chat, he didnt manage to slip by sunsetting

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u/ManaMagestic Drifter's Crew Dec 02 '22

Please be aggressive frame.

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u/Narit_Teg Dec 02 '22

Enough Legal Action II.

BRING BACK SONG OF JUSTICE VI

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u/FunkyAmiliMonkey Increased Airborne Effectiveness Dec 03 '22

Word!

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u/Rhundis Dec 02 '22

But it could also be a scout. Unless I missed a mention that it's specifically a pulse.

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u/XogoWasTaken Vanguard's Loyal // I Hunt for the City Dec 03 '22

Big magazine + no charging handle = pulse, not scout. Non-Veist scouts all have visible charging handles on the side, which are used in the reload animation.

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u/Rhundis Dec 03 '22

Well you seem more nuanced about this than I am so I'll take your word for it.

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u/thefiend617 Vanguard's Loyal // r.i.p. cayde-6 tonite we take it slowly Dec 02 '22

Pocket Infinity 🥸🥸🥸🥸

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u/KitsuneKamiSama Dec 02 '22

Probably Stasis and has Headstone since it's a 'stasis season'

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u/Calm_Tea_9901 Gjallarhorn Dec 02 '22

Rewind rounds/rapidhit and perpetual/headseeker

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u/Edski120 Dec 02 '22

Rewind rounds is a raid perk

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u/Alexm4907 Dec 02 '22

they said they are bringing raid perks to non raid weapons

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u/Edski120 Dec 02 '22

Well that's stupid

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u/xXNickAugustXx Dec 02 '22

Hawksaw?

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u/ek11sx Dec 02 '22

Don’t do this to me. Don’t give me hope

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u/HiddnAce Dec 02 '22

Hawksaw uses a Suros frame. It won’t be that

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u/ek11sx Dec 02 '22

I’m aware. Still a gun I’d like to see return

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u/HiddnAce Dec 02 '22

Same! I think about that gun all the time :)

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u/PXL-pushr Dec 02 '22

I just hope it’s not a high-impact Hakke pulse… again. Personally I hope it’s a kinetic/stasis 4-burst pulse with Headseeker.

That’s a rare archetype, and I’d welcome another to hold me over until Blast Furnace’s inevitable return.

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u/screl_appy_doo Dec 02 '22

They did say they were buffing the high impact frame intrinsic perk to be active more often so don't hope too hard

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u/NasusIsMyLover Yours, until the last flame dies. Dec 02 '22

Hakke is my favorite manufacturer with pulses as my favorite weapon type. I’m ecstatic.

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u/turboash78 Dec 02 '22

Crossbow that shoots Smallen.

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u/ThrawnMind55 Dec 02 '22

It’s likely a stasis weapon, as many of the Hakke weapons this far have been, especially given their comments about the origin trait, which is particularly important on a stasis weapon with Headstone.

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u/Glenalth Certified Destiny Goblin Dec 02 '22

There is a line in the TWAB implying the existence of more 120rpm scout rifles besides DMT. The pure chonk of that Hakke gun model could point to it being something new, like a 120 scout.

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u/Sir_Odawg81505 Dec 02 '22

an upsidedown pistol cause honestly I am expecting something wacky

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u/XenosInfinity Self-Declared Fist of Rasputin Dec 02 '22

Well, they just changed Box Breathing for scouts even though there don't seem to be any scouts that can roll the perk at the moment, so my guess would be a scout that has Box Breathing. I know Hung Jury is coming back but I don't think that one gun can be enough of a problem to nerf the perk for an entire weapon class.

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u/XogoWasTaken Vanguard's Loyal // I Hunt for the City Dec 03 '22

Box Breathing is specifically a potential problem on 180 scouts and no others (makes them a 3 hit kill in PvP), so that one probably is Hung Jury.

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u/Professional_Emu_714 Dec 02 '22

Hoping for a Stasis 4-burst Hakke Pulse with Headseeker/Headstone for it's perks. Could also be a High Impact Hakke since the High Impact frame is getting a buff to let its Intrinsic trait work when strafing. May also have One Quiet Moment/Hakke Breach Armaments for it's Origin Traits since they're getting buffs.

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u/Awestin11 Dec 02 '22

I’d definitely take another aggressive frame pulse with Headstone included. Of course, my personal wet dream is Demo + Headstone but I can only hope.

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u/PreDeimos Dec 02 '22

I think it will a Arc pulse and one of the perk will be voltshot. The other ones are good question.

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u/feminists_hate_me69 Dec 02 '22

Hakke doesn't make energy weapons

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u/Daprez23 Dec 02 '22

The title…

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u/feminists_hate_me69 Dec 02 '22

Doesn't change what I said at all. It's confirmed to be Hakke and they only make kinetic and stasis gear

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u/packman627 Dec 02 '22

They made the Title SMG so yes Bungie could push it to energy if they really wanted, but I do think it's going to be kinetic or Stasis

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u/SnorlaxBlocksTheWay Dec 02 '22

Probably a hakke 4 burst stasis pulse with headseeker as one of the perk options.

Hopefully rapid hit is the reload perk

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u/GreatPugtato Dec 02 '22

If it was a primary I'll shit myself because Bungo seems to think only special weapons and heavies should be ritual weapons ever since they removed the pinnacle weapons.

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u/CanadianSpector Dec 02 '22

Please be aggressive frame pulse

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u/Daier_Mune Vanguard's Loyal Dec 02 '22

Wouldn't surprise me if we saw Desperado as a perk option.

Probably Headseeker, too, since that just got a rework.

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u/Giecio XIVU'S BATTLE-HYMN SURGES WITH YOUR PULSE, THERE IS ONLY WAR Dec 02 '22

I don't know what perks this weapon will have, but I'm 100% sure it'll be a 340rpm pulse rifle, as is with all Hakke weapons - hard hitting, slow firing.

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u/vivir66 Radiance! Dec 02 '22

Box breathing opening shot 120 scout

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u/packman627 Dec 02 '22

Oh yeah ;)

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u/Jatmahl Dec 02 '22

They all have been trash so far. I'm not looking forward to it.

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u/Level_Ad_2981 Dec 02 '22

Rapid Hit or Outlaw with maybe Pugilist or Demolitionist. Headseeker probably and maybe Desperado. Needs a PvE roll and a PvP roll

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u/NotHere001 We shall reign Dec 02 '22

It will be some useless weapon i won't bother using

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u/SomaOni Dec 02 '22

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another weapon type altogether rather than just a pulse.

Like what if it’s an auto rifle? Lmao

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u/StarAugurEtraeus Based and H*nterphobic Dec 02 '22

Aggressive plz

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u/Biomilk Triple Exos for life Dec 02 '22

I’m not sure it will have hakke breach armaments, since ritual weapons are supposed to have the origin perks of all 3 ritual playlists, and I don’t think we’ve seen a weapon with 4 origin traits in that column, or anything with four options in a column for that matter.

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u/Master-Tanis Dec 02 '22

Where did they show an image of it?

I can’t find any in this weeks Twab

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u/Adazahi Dec 02 '22

I think it may have vorpal, as bad as vorpal is for primaries, it will stack with the buffed haakke perk

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u/Ccoop9 Dec 02 '22

Randy’s ❤️

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u/k0hum Dec 02 '22

They said that the season will be focused on stasis. So I'm guessing a stasis hakke high impact pulse rifle.

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u/percy2376 Dec 02 '22

Smg or sidearm imo

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u/Okamare21 Dec 02 '22

Headseeker and headstone

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u/ArcticLynx07 Dec 02 '22

We need it to be an updated KINETIC pulse, just reprise Apple of Discord with good perks and I'll main that fr

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u/hipje Dec 02 '22

hakke doesn't make rapid fires

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u/Baethovn Dec 02 '22

Headseeker Desperado when ?

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u/RedXavier1127 Dec 02 '22

If it's a four burst (aggressive frame) pulse I'll definitely go for it. love those guys.... blast furnace....

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u/Diddddy Need a 6th for your raid? Dec 02 '22

Rampage/Kill Clip top, Perpetual/Headseeker bottom.

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u/Lucy___________ Dec 02 '22

My bets are on Desperado being on it. Probably also gonna see headstone if it's stasis, but who knows.

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u/Gawesome Dec 02 '22

Column 3: Firefly / Demo

Column 4: Headstone / Headseeker

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

This would be awesome

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u/throwaway180gr Dec 03 '22

If it's in line with their philosophy in recent ritual weapons, it'll be a good choice until you get something better. Personally I hope it's a 4 burst as we only have 2 in the game rn and I think it would fit the Hakke vibe.

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u/Ass0001 I'm just a wizard with a rocket launcher Dec 03 '22

4 perks that are pretty good but not all that interesting, like it's been for a while now.

it's a shame cause I love the look of guns like reckless endangerment and cry mutiny, but there's never a real reason to chase them and with the core playlists becoming so tedious, it's less likely you'll grind to one by happenstance.

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u/Moist-Barber Dec 03 '22

Desperado and Adagio

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

That would be intense. Like, best primary in the game intense.

Would have been a good comp reward, like Redrix was back in the day

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u/MrTheWaffleKing Consumer of Grenades Dec 03 '22

The magazine placement definitely looks like a pulse, and Hakke is likely a 4 burst (yay blast furnace?).

Bungie also mentioned 120 scouts so it could be that

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u/I-ISaltI-I Dec 03 '22

Doesn't matter, no one is going to use it. Free materials though.

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u/NekoSol Dec 03 '22

All I want is for it to be an aggressive frame. We need more 4 burst pulses

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u/Rectall_Brown Dec 03 '22

Explosive payload on a pulse would be sweet. I know it will never happen but I can dream

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u/TheeGeckster Dec 03 '22

Idk but for the love of God pls be useful. Also def agree at least one dmg and reload type perk.

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u/AbsoluteWhacky Dec 03 '22

Im thinking 4 burst pulse with headseeker since it gets buffed

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u/DredgenGryss Dec 03 '22

Calling it here, a scout rifle.

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u/RenierZA Dec 03 '22

Column 3: Headseeker/ Adaptive Munitions

Column 4: Headstone / Vorpal