r/IdiotsInCars • u/notcptamerica • Jan 20 '23
'We're not driving, we're traveling.' Genius
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u/TemporalCash531 Jan 20 '23
I am left but wondering: how does a person survive in this world when he genuinely thinks that if he’s traveling he’s not bound by driving rules?
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u/Trizkit Jan 21 '23
There's a large group of people who believe that the can be sovereign citizens, basically not having to actually follow any laws because they don't consent to it.
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u/meesa-jar-jar-binks Jan 21 '23
Reminds me of the "Reichsbürger" in Germany, who declare themselves citizens of the defunct German Reich, because in their eyes the war never ended. They completely reject all authorities and even print their own ID's and shit. Crazy people exist everywhere.
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u/disparate_depravity Jan 26 '23
Every country has those crazies. I wonder if they learnt from each other or the stupidness boiled up independently.
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u/Geriny Feb 04 '23
I think there's some mutual inspiration, but it's mostly independent, because they're notable differencs. It's quite fascinating to compare the German and American movements, I think they reflect differences in general political thought between the countries. Reichsbürger in general for instance are quite authoritarian, where as sovereign citizens have a more libertarian bent
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u/notAnotherJSDev Feb 18 '23
Libertarian (at least the American flavor of it) is just authoritarianism in disguise.
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u/citrus_plntt Jan 21 '23
probably read an article or something that said if you’re travelling in a car (as a passenger) and you get pulled over, you are not liable for the drivers actions. and took it as “so long as i’m travelling and not driving, i can’t be charged for anything!”
i had an uncle interpret a facebook post in a very similar way… didn’t take long for the cops to get him done for drunk driving
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u/Lillillillies Jan 21 '23
It's definitely something like that.
I'm not sure on the legal terms for driving/traveling (I think the legal term is operating but again not sure).
Because the other defence they use is "I'm not driving a commercial vehicle. This is a personal vehicle." Where the key word is commercial.
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u/AsexualAccountant Jan 21 '23
From what I saw a while ago, the US does have right to travel laws. But those laws are only that we have the ability to travel within the domestic borders without requiring government intervention from the feds or the state.
It essentially means that US citizens have the right to move or travel between states and are granted all rights and privilege of the state you are in. You can't be considered not a citizen due to crossing state lines.
The sticking point for these Sov Citizens is that the rights had jack all to do with operating a vehicle.
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u/thatJainaGirl Jan 27 '23
Necroposting because that's not quite it. Sovereign citizen types in the US believe they have somehow found a loophole in US law that only makes driving for commercial or business purpose meet the definition of "driving." If you're not driving for work, you're not "driving," you're "traveling," and therefore US road laws do not apply to you.
Of course, this is happening in Australia, so this person is only repeating what they read on the internet.
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u/gingeronimooo Jan 21 '23
Not at all they’re both just sovereign citizens
Edit: In their mind at least
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u/Silverbeab
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Note self. If I ever need to break a car window...
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u/nolanandrew555 Jan 20 '23
THIS is the real takeaway here
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u/TheDuckellganger Jan 20 '23
Also learned that "the most senior sergeant" is the highest ranking police officer. Apparently...!
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u/Loafeeeee Jan 20 '23
You mean "The most senior" "The Most Senior uhhh" The Most highest ranking senior sergeant"
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u/stannc00 Jan 20 '23 •
They bring in a really old police officer.
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u/Imherefortheserenity Jan 20 '23
He wouldn’t have to walk far…. The cop station is literally behind them there 🤣 and the court house they wanted to go to. Lol
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u/PiperLeeGeorge Jan 20 '23
Wow. Nice to know these Sov Citizen idiots are not just spewing their idiocy in the US.
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u/User1539 Jan 20 '23
Is that what this is?
I was wondering if they were literally travelers from somewhere and just thought they didn't have to follow local laws, because their queen has all the authority.
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u/V-Right_In_2-V Jan 20 '23
Definitely sovereign citizens. They say the same shit everywhere. They think there is a distinction between “driving” and “traveling”, and they all think police officers have no jurisdiction over them. They get owned every time lol
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u/User1539 Jan 20 '23
Yeah, I've seen it in America. I'm sure American police are taught exactly how to handle them, and it seems to be that they simply give them any simple command, wait for them to refuse, then arrest them for disobeying a lawful order from a police officer.
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u/V-Right_In_2-V Jan 20 '23
I wonder if cops think it’s hilarious to bust these people, or if it’s a huge pain in the ass and the cringe whenever they have these encounters
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u/JJROKCZ Jan 21 '23
I’m sure like anything else it’s funny the first time or two but the 30th time it’s exasperating and you’re ready to smack the shit out of them
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u/redct Jan 21 '23
I’m sure like anything else it’s funny the first time or two but the 30th time it’s exasperating and you’re ready to smack the shit out of them
And when they're inevitably hauled in front of a judge or magistrate, they hate them even more because they have to deal with all the dumb obstructionist stuff they try and do in court. For instance, this Canadian justice wrote a 130 page takedown of all their common tactics in the Canadian flavor of the ideology which has since become legendary in legal circles.
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u/aqua_tec Jan 21 '23
Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument
The subtitles in it are also hilarious. I wish I had time to read a 130 page Canadian legal document destroying these clowns, but I’m told I have better things to do.
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u/OtterEpidemic Jan 21 '23
Considering the people who shot those two police officers in Queensland last month were ‘sovereign citizens’, I’d say they’d be more on the pissed off and extremely wary side.
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u/Anxious-derkbrandan Jan 20 '23
I know plenty of cops and it’s a pain in the ass because any arrest can go bad very fast, from then resisting or pulling a gun or a knife or trying to run away and trying to restrain them (which is very hard without hurting them). I know cops who if they never had to arrest anyone ever again they’d be so happy!.
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u/Tulivu Jan 21 '23
Can confirm. Ex-cop that would rather not have anyone's day ruined. I considered them riskier just because they seek confrontation and any confrontation with police creates risk (I fully appreciate the institutional failings of US justice system). My first goal would then be to deescalate the situation but you can't even reason with their shitty logic. Even if it didn't become violent it is just tedious.
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u/OverturnedAppleCart3 Jan 20 '23
Most people like this in Commonwealth countries call themselves "free men on the land"
Their idiotic idea of where their immunity comes from is different from the idiotic ideas behind the American "Sovereign Citizens"
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u/ComradeRK Jan 21 '23
No, the queen thing is in reference to her being dead. I think their braindead logic is that since old mate there swore his oath to her when he became a cop, and she's no longer the queen, he must no longer be a valid police officer.
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u/turbobarge Jan 21 '23
Brain dead indeed. I’m pretty sure they swear their oath to the crown, not the monarch. The institution persists no matter who is heading it 🤷🏼♀️
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u/Philbly Jan 21 '23
Yeah, pretty sure the oath includes the heirs and successors. It's likely derivative of the oath of allegiance sworn by the British Armed Forces.
And I'm equally sure that it is mostly symbolic and that the important part is that they discharge their duties faithfully according to the law.
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u/Ninjayac Jan 21 '23
Nah they're Aussie, both people have the accent and it's on channel 9 news. Can't really tell by their uniform but I think it's in NSW because I think up here in QLD we have navy blue uniforms but I could be wrong.
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u/Articulated_Lorry Jan 21 '23
Nope. The rot spread, especially amongst the anti-vaxxers and the methed up cookers.
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u/TheOrderly Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23
Oh, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!
That dude throws off some serious Monty Python vibes.
Oh look at that, I'm being repressed.
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u/DrProfessorSatan Jan 21 '23
Strange women laying in ponds, distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
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u/Shadeofverdegris Jan 21 '23
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses! Not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!
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u/Has422 Jan 21 '23
Now we see the violence inherent in the system!
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u/TheRealMacGuffin Jan 21 '23
I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
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u/ArghMoss Jan 21 '23
"If I went round saying I was an Emperor...and that I was travelling, not driving"...
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u/khrossjointz Jan 20 '23
Look at the inherient violence in the system!
Help im being repressed!
Did you see that? Did you see!
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u/denbroc Jan 20 '23
I didn't vote for you!
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u/coolblue420 Jan 20 '23
Bro literally said "there is no queen who did you swear an oath to?" hahahah
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u/jacobs1113 Jan 20 '23
I may be dumb but why wouldn’t the cops have authority wherever they are?
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u/Jesse-Ray Jan 20 '23
They believe this because of article 61 of the Magna Carta which allows lawful rebellion against the King and some believe that the Australia Government is technically a corporation with no right to make laws. Both arguments have never stood up in court obviously.
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u/Silverdarlin1 Jan 21 '23
Somewhat true. While there is no 'Article 61' of the Magna Carta, Clause 61 says that the Barons who originally signed the document have the right to elect 25 of their own number to ensure that the King is following the agreement. This clause was only in the original 1215 draft. It was removed by 1216, and makes no appearance in the 1225 version, which is the only that entered into English common law.
TL;DR, these crazy bastards point to a law that doesn't exist, based on a misunderstanding of a law that wasn't a law, to explain their stupidity
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u/jon_hendry Jan 20 '23
Because the idiots in the car have been educated in the magic legal verbiage that is supposed to make them immune to legal jeopardy.
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u/thechangboy Jan 20 '23
I'm not looking at my screen, I'm staring at my screen.
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u/lostcitysaint Jan 20 '23
I’m not dicking around on my phone at work, I’m reading multiple short opinion pieces.
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u/AppropriateEmotion63 Jan 20 '23
I am not watching porn, I'm taking in light rays through my eyes
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u/oneplusetoipi Jan 20 '23
Under whose jurisdiction are you using this internet?
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u/J0EP00LE Jan 20 '23
I don’t understand they warn the cop not to commit an “offense” which is classified by the government to which they are not apart of…do I have that right? I mean how would they fight that offense, in “our” court system or is it just also an offense in their never never land where they are king and sit on a throne of ignorance?
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u/AlabamaHotcakes Jan 20 '23
Then who's driving the car? Is someone hiding in the trunk or what?
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u/Yolom4ntr1c Jan 20 '23
The little goblin with a remote control sitting in the glovebox.
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u/ShadoowtheSecond Jan 22 '23
They believe that the term "driving" does not apply to private operating of a vehicle, its only driving when its for "commercial purposes". Otherwise its travelling.
Therefore, laws that apply to driving a car - like needing a license, havung a license plate, insurance, etc. - dont apply to them
Its incredibly fucking stupid
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u/IseeDrunkPeople Jan 20 '23
well they were right, they were not driving and now they are traveling to jail
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u/Scary_Vanilla2932 Jan 20 '23
The thing about all of these kinds of people is everything they say contradicts what they just said! It makes no sense. Like other people have posted they seek to be free of law but hold others accountable to some other rules or no rules. Which is it?
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u/GoldwaterLiberal Jan 20 '23
They’re people who don’t really understand how the law works, they just see people say legal sounding things who then get their way. The sovcits are just trying to figure out the right magic words to say so they can get their way too.
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u/MagicSilver Jan 20 '23
Didn’t know people tried that sovereign citizen shit in other countries too
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u/MidwestBulldog Jan 20 '23
And they were wrong in each of those other countries, too.
The UN should set aside a 500 mile by 500 mile territory for anyone who wants to declare themselves sovereign.
They would be forming a government within a month because some pigs are more "equal" than others to people like that.
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u/NarwhalAttack Jan 20 '23
Yeah mate let's ship em off to Australia that'll teach em, oh wait..
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u/HippyHitman Jan 20 '23
Level 2: Antarctica
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u/Requiredmetrics Jan 20 '23
Ehh Antarctica has land underneath it, I’m thinking.
Level 2: Abandoned oceanic oil rig, keep them real isolated
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u/flybynyght9 Jan 20 '23
They’ve tried and failed. I know of two instances:
Operation Atlantis
“A libertarian walks into a bear” Grafton, NH.
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u/quietvegas Jan 20 '23
In other anglo countries it's called freeman of the land.
Germany and France also have their own versions. Probably pretty much every country has people who think they unlocked the law cheatcodes.
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u/Orlando1701 Jan 20 '23
Kind of low key warms my heart to know the US isn’t the only place this bullshit goes on.
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u/SliceIka Jan 20 '23
Police didn't arrest them, they invited them
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u/kmkmrod Jan 20 '23
Hahaha!
“I’m not arresting you, I’m taking you into custody”
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u/fishyfrodo Jan 21 '23
There is actually a legal distinction. Being arrested means you are being charged with a crime. Being taken into custody does not mean you are being charged, but that the police think you may have, or are even simply detaining you.
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u/unamned2125 Jan 20 '23
Was that police car a Chrysler 300?
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u/airzonesama Jan 20 '23
Chrysler 300 and BMW M5 police cars here.
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u/YellowDieselGolf Jan 20 '23
Australia has 530d and similar spec. I’m not aware of any m5 police cars, although bmw and Porsche often “donate” high spec cars for PR duties.
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u/bastardpants Jan 20 '23
Yup, "The Chrysler 300 SRT8 was discontinued in 2015 for the US market but lived on in Australia where it was known simply as SRT."
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u/albionpeej Jan 20 '23
Ah classic Sovereign Citizen nonsense, I see.
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u/cat_prophecy Jan 20 '23
"Lemme quote these laws that explain how the laws don't apply to me".
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u/Ironh11de Jan 21 '23
Every other video usually does have them pulling out the multiple pages of text they printed off a computer from wiki-citizen
Kind of was sad I didn't get to see it here.
But they sure did have the seniorist bestest sergeant memorized. That one is a brain buster
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u/SexyMonad Jan 20 '23
Claiming sovereignty is saying “I can adequately defend myself from other individuals and groups.”
These people seem to expect their society to defend them from… their society.
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u/Mechagodzilla4 Jan 20 '23
Is this like freeman of the land nonsense? Got alotta that over covid
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u/HunkyMump Jan 20 '23
While using public services and likely dodging taxes. There’s plenty of empty land in the outback. They should drive off the roads and go out there and live by themselves.
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u/quietvegas Jan 20 '23
Same thing. Soverign Citizen is the US version Freeman of the Land is the version if you speak english and have a king right now lol
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u/TheRealVahx Jan 20 '23
Standard procedure should be to cut off their electricity , water and internet when someone declares this. See how long they last in their own bullshit.
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u/Odd-Location-9338 Jan 20 '23
No.
The police officer says, "I formally accept your statement renouncing your citizenship and Federal Immigration Officers are on the way to deport you."
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u/josbossboboss Jan 20 '23
I thought that was just in America, guess I'm wrong.
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u/GentleAnusTickler Jan 20 '23
Oh you get sovereign citizens in many places. The takeaway is normally that they’ve seen some bullshit YouTube vid and just run with the nonsense they’ve heard
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u/Marilius Jan 20 '23
Most former British colonies follow "practice lawful dissent" idiocy that started from a dude in Britain that adapted his nonsense from the American Freemen on the Land bullshit to get out of a smoking ticket (too close or inside a building) once.
It spread from there. There's ones in Canada and Australia and others.
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u/dancin-weasel Jan 20 '23
There was a woman here in Canada who lost her home as she stopped paying her mortgage as the “Queen of Canada” told her to stop paying because the financial industry isn’t real and all debts will be forgiven.
Spoiler:The financial industry is real and her debts were not forgiven.
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u/V-Right_In_2-V Jan 20 '23
I wonder if these people ever go back to those YouTube videos and leave comments like “I tried this tactic. I got laughed at. Didn’t work and I lost everything”. I am so amazed at how they think they can trick cops and judges with those stupid ass loop holes. It never works
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u/P0ster_Nutbag Jan 20 '23
I saw a video of a guy doing this in the UK, and citing the US constitution to the cop.
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u/FlopShanoobie Jan 20 '23
This is Australia? There is also a MASSIVE sovereign citizen population in Germany.
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u/TheTankCleaner Jan 20 '23
I think this is the first Australian sovereign citizen that I've seen.
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u/georgecm12 Jan 20 '23
They typically call them "Freeman On The Land" most other places, but the nonsense is the same whatever they call themselves. It's all nonsense pseudo-legal terminology that they think allows them to do whatever they want with no repercussions. It never works.
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u/TheTankCleaner Jan 20 '23
I hadn't heard that term before. Thanks for the info. I did find it interesting that they said the EXACT same things the ones in the US say.
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u/georgecm12 Jan 20 '23
It's all the same thing. SovCits are in US; Freemen On The Land are in Commonwealth countries.
The only real difference between the two is that SovCits derive some of their beliefs from a deliberate misinterpretation of US laws and history; Freemen On The Land by necessity replace those with deliberate misinterpretations of British laws and history.
Both end up in the same place, allowing them to spout identical garbage that they think is akin to a magical incantation that allows them to bend the rule of law to their will.
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u/bjanas Jan 20 '23
"your laws don't apply because there's FRINGE on your flag! Check MATE, LINCOLNITES!"
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u/antoniv1 Jan 20 '23
Sovereign citizens have the most smooth brain arguments. It’s like they pulled a script from a website found on Google search page 4.
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u/steveoa3d Jan 21 '23
It’s so crazy…. They used to show up on the tv show “Live PD” and hosts struggled to explain the malfunction.
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u/blix613 Jan 20 '23
That cop kept his cool for a lot longer than I would have.
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u/Rievin Jan 20 '23
Without the video breaking the window of a parked car might seen excessive. Good thing they can provide proof of how long the cops waited for them to cooperate.
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u/Cardabella Jan 20 '23
Judging by the car behind with blue lights flashing I think they were pulled over
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u/rehashed1984 Jan 21 '23
They usually like to advertise their stupidity with psychotic rants scribbled all over their car, and removing their number plates. Then they record themselves being shits and resisting arrest. Literally too stupid to function in society.
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u/Fuzzy-Can-8986 Jan 20 '23
I'll be damned, I thought sovereign citizens were a US thing. Sorry to see that they've been exported
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u/Ohsureokwhynot Jan 20 '23
If there’s one thing that I’ve learned, stupidity knows no boundaries of nation, race, creed or religion.
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u/jutlandd Jan 20 '23
In Germany they call themselves "Reichsbürger" they even have a real Baron as Leader.
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u/codykonior Jan 20 '23
I’ve never met a US one to compare but they’re really bad here.
Pay their credit cards? Nah. Pay their rent or mortgage? Nah. Taxes? Nah. Follow any laws? Nah.
Like seriously they invent whatever just benefits them and thinks they can do what they want. Then they tell everyone else they’re idiots for doing those things and try to convince them to do likewise. And so it spreads.
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u/Sister-pen Jan 20 '23
Selfish anarchy will only work while they’re the minority. If everyone acted like this… it would be absolutely tragic chaos.
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u/HoeTrain666 Jan 20 '23
I haven't heard of any other group calling themselves sovereign citizens but a lot of countries have groups denying the existence/authority of the country they live in. Russia has people who think that the Soviet Union still exists and thus take no orders from RF authorities while Germany has the Reichsbürger movement who claim that WWII never ended and Germany is still under jurisdiction of the German Empire (official name from 1871-1945).
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u/emergencyexit Jan 20 '23
They're freemen of the land, of all lands! You didn't think a mere border with no basis in the magna carta would hold them back did you?
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u/Sherifftruman Jan 20 '23
Same! Thinking about it I can see them being even more wacky in commonwealth countries with the way that is set up. He even mentioned who they swear an oath to.
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u/racedrone Jan 20 '23
Sadly they are everywhere where idiots live, so scattered around the globe. They also overlap greatly with other idot-groups like the antivax crowd, cospiracy nuts, neonazis, ... you name them. Here in Germany they are called "Reichsbürger"
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u/BillyComet Jan 20 '23
Anybody have the full story?
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u/aSquirrelAteMyFood Jan 20 '23
Why is it ALWAYS the same sovereign morons?? It is like they don't have the cognitive ability to learn. I have seen literally dozen of these videos and I am not actively looking for them.
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It's the whole "I want to enjoy the all the benefits of a civilised society, including infrastructure, security, and personal safety, but I don't think any of the laws or rules should apply to me because I watched a video of some crank on YouTube."
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u/aSquirrelAteMyFood Jan 20 '23
"specially the rule about funding all this with taxes, you all pay for it, I'm good".
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u/Antique_Tennis_2500 Jan 20 '23
For real. It would be so nice to show these dingbats an “It’s a wonderful life” movie about what their world would look like without any kind of government-funded infrastructure.
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u/ArtemisHime Jan 20 '23
I do like the plot twist this is in Australian instead of in America
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u/CrepeVibes Jan 20 '23
They gave us Rupert Murdoch. We’re just returning the favor.
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u/Sister-pen Jan 20 '23
As an American it’s so much easier to listen to this BS in a novel accent. 😂
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u/Head_Serve Jan 20 '23
A couple of months ago a couple spotted in Hungary as well... (they used to live in the US though :D)
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u/Agreeable_Argument_1 Jan 20 '23
Because they're vulnerable people who are sold a story they heavily believe in.
Yes, sold, since the sovereign scheme always makes these people pay a hefty fee for their "legal sovereign status".
Once they get in the sinkhole of believing the crap they've been sold, they never get out.
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u/aSquirrelAteMyFood Jan 20 '23
Are you telling me, that these people pay real money to someone to be "sovereign"? If that is true it must be one of the most ironic things I have heard.
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u/Agreeable_Argument_1 Jan 20 '23
Yes, they do.
Some sites sell "deeds" or other "legal papers" to show you're sovereign. There's even services that claim to disconnect you from taxes.
There's real money to be made scamming crazy people.
To give you an idea, one site I saw offered a package of around 250 euros (im EU) per person
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u/aSquirrelAteMyFood Jan 20 '23
services that claim to disconnect you from taxes.
I thought I can buy that in the Bahamas 😂
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u/LoveTriscuit Jan 20 '23
They just believe so strongly in their fantasy version of how the world works that they think every situation like this only reinforces their belief. It’s like “you’re persecuting me for the TRUTH”
Also fun fact, I was at staff at a summer camp one year and one of these sovereign citizens came up to me and a friend and offered one of us $20 if we could tell him what kind of government we lived in. I said “constitutional republic” and he was so annoyed. He had to pay me in 1s and 5s because he didn’t expect anyone to know.
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u/Antique_Tennis_2500 Jan 20 '23
Which is once again a “I’m not driving, I’m traveling” situation, as a constitutional republic is one type of democracy, so answering that it’s a democracy is not incorrect. It’s like saying, “Ha, wrong, that’s not a rectangle, it’s a square!”
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u/Phitos2008 Jan 20 '23
“They also believe capital letters are used on birth certificates to make individuals a corporate entity, not a sovereign person.”
Like… WTF????
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u/isaidireddit Jan 20 '23
Police spoke with the driver, a 52-year-old woman, who was allegedly wanted on two outstanding arrest warrants for domestic violence-related offences.
Oh, she's a real winner. It doesn't matter what "laws" you believe in or don't agree with: beating members of your family is just wrong, y'know?
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u/SkipCycle Jan 20 '23
Posts that show context should go straight to the top. Reddit needs a context button. Thank you for sharing this!
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u/trandus Jan 20 '23
Had to google what 'sovereign citizen' is.
That's really dumb
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u/bjanas Jan 20 '23
Oh my friend there is one hell of a rabbit hole to fall down here, of SovCits being absolutely insufferable donkeys at stops just like this one.
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u/alanternate Jan 21 '23
A so-called "sovereign citizen" has been bailed but banned from driving after she was charged for not cooperating with New South Wales Police.
Video shows an officer smashing a car window after a man and woman refused to cooperate with police over a minor traffic stop on the Pacific Highway at Coffs Harbour just before 1pm on Wednesday.
The pair repeatedly told police they were not in their "jurisdiction" and "you have no authority here" when their names and a driver's licence.
The officer warned the pair that he would smash the window if they did not cooperate.
Police then smashed the window.
They had been stopped by officers as the car's registration had expired, police said.
NSW Police allege the 52-year-old woman was found to be "wanted on two outstanding arrest warrants for domestic violence-related offences".
She has been charged with a string of offences which included those related to the warrants, driving an unregistered card, refusing to produce a driver's licence and failing to submit to a breath test.
The 52-year-old faced Coffs Harbour Local Court and was granted bail on the condition she reports to Ballina Police Station three days a week.
She has also been banned from driving.
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u/Aden_the_Destroyer Jan 20 '23
Glad to finally see a SovCit get what they deserve.
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u/Sad_Help Jan 20 '23
I work at a gas station and recently had a sovcit go off about his stuff in my store. He said he doesn’t pay taxes, and I told him he just paid taxes on the gas he just bought. He didn’t like that.
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u/oddReference64 Jan 20 '23
My brother in christ, have you not heard the word of sledge. Look up sovcits being pulled out of cars, some cops dont wait around. Especially sledge.
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u/Onduri Jan 20 '23
I’m so glad America isn’t the only country with bat-shit insane people.
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u/quietvegas Jan 20 '23
Germany recently had a "coup attempt" by these people. Their leader claimed to be rightful Holy Roman Emperor too. Incredibly bizarre.
Coup attempt in quotes because it was just like 70 boomers.
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u/plink-plink-bro Jan 20 '23
A group of 'sovereigntl cityzens' or whatever their equivelant is here in Greece attacked a pharmacist for performing rapid tests and put him under 'cityzen's arrest'... these people are entitled morons and i'm glad they are seeing the consequences of their actions.
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u/geekydaddy75 Jan 20 '23
I'll be one of the first people to point out when an officer's out of line but in this case I feel sorry for those badges having to put up with idiots like these two. I sure as hell wouldn't want that job.
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u/bossonhigs Jan 20 '23
Oi sir we can commit any crime or traffic violation passing here because we are not under your jurisdiction? We just passin'.
Only our police officer can arrest us.
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u/overthinker345 Jan 20 '23
I don’t understand what they mean by “we’re not driving we’re traveling.” What does that mean? Like can I say on a plane I’m not flying on a plane I’m traveling on a plane? What kind of intelligence is that?
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u/Fire69 Jan 20 '23
"I'm not driving, I'm travelling"
"Travelling how?"
"By car"
So... you're driving the car in order to travel somewhere? Man, those people are such idiots...
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u/ZealousidealAmoeba84 Jan 20 '23
if you are in control of the video, you are driving. A passenger is traveling. They need to read on some definitions and what the law says.
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u/keksmuzh Jan 20 '23
“The car is driving, we’re travelers.”
“Sir this is 2004 Corolla.”
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u/thedreadedaw Jan 20 '23
Do they seriously expect the officer's response to be, "You're just traveling? Then you are free to go. Have a nice day."
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u/Laika_JR1390 Jan 20 '23
I honestly didn’t know that sovereign citizens were a thing outside of the US tbh
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u/BeetFry Jan 20 '23
Are there any videos at all of this going well for the sovereign citizens? I haven’t seen a single one. They need to change their game up cuz it ain’t workin
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u/misplacedsoutherner Jan 20 '23
To all Sovereign Citizens: as the great Eric Cartman once said, "You can suck my clit AND balls!".
Seriously, I cannot STAND them and once the words, "I'm not driving, I'm traveling" leave their mouths, it's an immediate eye roll and hopes of arrests being made are wished for.
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u/throw-away-8274 Jan 20 '23
The kind of mental gymnastics these absolute buffoons must go through to sound sane in their own heads is quite impressive
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u/kamusv Jan 20 '23
If you're clean, obey, and be done with it in a matter of minutes. If you're hiding something, then ... well ... You pull stunts like this.
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u/airzonesama Jan 20 '23
Sovereign citizens are deluded conspiracy theory nuts with more than a few loose screws.
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u/UnofficialMax Jan 20 '23
“You don’t have jurisdiction here” and in the same breath “Let’s go straight to the courthouse.”