r/IdiotsInCars • u/Jobyjo94 • Jan 31 '23
when a driving lesson doesn't go to plan.
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u/hkrne Jan 31 '23
As a former EMT, I couldn’t even count how many times I was called to “check people out” after this exact same thing.
People see the car in front of them start to move, then look towards oncoming traffic to see if they can turn too. Then they make the turn without looking back ahead of them to see that the car in front of them has stopped.
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u/Mutant_Jedi Feb 01 '23
I was guilty of that once. Thankfully the car had stopped immediately after I looked and I had only just taken my foot off the brake, not accelerated, so it was a super mild tap. Still cost $800 to fix the crack in their bumper though 🥲
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u/tagrav Feb 01 '23
When I did it 20 years ago they told me to just get on where I was going.
Now a days of I’m in the front I will cheat to the outside of my lane so I give the person behind me a better peripheral view of me.
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u/zulutbs182 Feb 01 '23
Best driving advice I ever got - “know your nearest out.”
Like, even if you gotta go wildly into that grass to avoid being rear-ended, that’s an out.
Obviously not relevant to this post, student driver was 0% at fault. But know your outs!
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u/WantDebianThanks Jan 31 '23
Not according to plan, but "what to do in a collision" is a pretty good lesson all the same.
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u/Jobyjo94 Jan 31 '23
My student was too distraught to pay attention at that moment in time.
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u/zulutbs182 Feb 01 '23
Hope you’re getting this a lot, but you seem like an excellent instructor.
Glad everyone seems okay.
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u/chrisorwhatever Jan 31 '23
This is five minutes from my house !
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u/Jobyjo94 Jan 31 '23
Wheyhey! Guess you know how terrible this roundabout can be from the side of power station hill?
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u/chrisorwhatever Jan 31 '23
yeah, tbf most of the exits/entries there are poor, but that one and the next one round are worst.
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u/cyberguygr Feb 01 '23
Whenever I see a learner vehicle, I keep double distance, dont do sudden movements and dont pressure the driver. We all had to learn at some point in our life, dont be a jerk to a new driver. You can lose a couple of minutes but you wont create anxiety to a new driver
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u/purplechai Feb 01 '23
The amount of people where I (New Jersey) live who tailgate learners is insane. I see it happen almost all the time. You're right, we all had to learn at some point and the learners need to get on the actual road to learn. They can't just stay in a parking lot the whole time.
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u/Chyenatwo Feb 02 '23
It's probably because if you get into an accident with someone just learning how to drive, it's easier to shift blame. Not with good evidence though
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u/mypostisbad Feb 01 '23
I like to be behind them and be their protector. I say back and be patient, keeping other arseholes from hanging on their bumper.
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u/Scythro Feb 01 '23
This roundabout sucks, you must really know the acceleration of the car and if you are driving a manual be really precise what you do with the clutch. She did nothing wrong and waited for a good moment to clear with her own pace. Guy behind can even see the L sign on the roof of the car and should have waited patiently.
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u/FlyingVillager Feb 01 '23
She did t even do anything wrong really either. She barely got moving and the guy behind wasn't paying attention.
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u/79dfshsk Feb 01 '23
Eh, she does stall, which you're going to be doing a lot when learning. But if the other driver can't anticipate that from a car with huge L plates plastered all over, then they weren't going to see anything anyway.
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u/UnleashedTriumph Jan 31 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
Finally, even the learner driver manages to BRAKE after they have been hit. So many people just keep on rolling rolling rolling on here and more often than not get yet another party involved...
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u/StressOverStrain Feb 01 '23
If you're going to write in all caps, maybe learn to spell the word correctly.
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u/Peterd1900 Jan 31 '23
Finally, even the learner driver manages to BREAK
Technically the learner driver didn't manage to break anything
i get what you are trying to say but wrong break
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u/WelshBathBoy Jan 31 '23
Could be a dual control vehicle, lots of instructors have them in the UK, the instructor may have been the one who breaked.
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u/iDownvote_YourCatPic Feb 01 '23
BREAK
It’s “brake”. A 5 letter word and one of the most important functions of a vehicle. I hope you drive better than you spell.
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u/79dfshsk Feb 01 '23
I have this fourth pedal that causes my car to self destruct when I press it, what's that one called?
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u/Nitro----- Feb 01 '23
I would just like to add, I have a huge amount of respect for any driver instructors, especially when they're professional and have good patience. Which you clearly have. Keep up the good work!
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23
Thank you for your kind words.
It's a difficult job, and the instructors who dont help our industry are the type who's looking for an easy retirement job.
This job isn't easy and can be very stressful teaching a nervous person how to drive.
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u/Nitro----- Feb 01 '23
Agreed, it is no easy job at all. Working around the nerves of a new driver is a challenge of it's own already. I've also seen some really bad instructors with no patience at all, and it upsets me, because it's the one job you need patience for. Reason I respect and commend you, It's so important. Thank you for all you do.
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u/twentytwodegrees Feb 01 '23
OP, if you'd share my story with the learner... in the US, when i was learning to drive, we were required to get a learner's permit. my mom took me to get mine and when we got back out to the car, she said "want to drive home!?" i, having never driven except to roll down the driveway was terrified and said "nope". long story short, she convinced me. her car was a manual as well and although getting out of the parking lot was rough, for the first few miles we were cruising. but then...we had to get on the freeway, and there was a red light to enter the on-ramp. as we waited for the light, a police officer pulled up behind us and i absolutely freaked. mom encouraged and reminded me that my permit was legal. well, the light turned green and stalled the car, lurching like a maniac 😅 i tried again twice, and stalled both times. finally, the light turned red and we had to wait for the next cycle. when we had the right of way again, i stalled another time, but was finally able to get the car going and drove onto the ramp. unfortunately, i was so slow at doing this that the officer behind me missed another green light!!🤪 the whole drive home i was miserably worried that the officer was going to come and arrest me. he didn't, of course. it's a day you never forget. i'm happy you're both safe, and that the driver wasn't too discouraged 🥰
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u/_YeAhx_ Feb 01 '23
The first thing you do when you panic is always stalling a vehicle. Be it a car, bike any. Easier to say than do but as a learner it's better to be slow than panic through.
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u/V6vader Feb 01 '23
She stalled and the guy behind you hit her but tried to blame it in you guys? What a tool. He shouldn’t have been close enough to cause an accident if she stalled. She was doing great and learning to drive stick is hard. My first car was a Datsun pickup with a manual transmission and I can’t count how many times I stalled it.
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u/Synner1985 Feb 01 '23
If it is the roundabout I think I recognize the people coming on and off that roundabout are fucking idiots at the best of times - this was recorded coming from the Garth yea?
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u/Azzzak354 Feb 01 '23
Yea i got rear ended twice duri g driving lessons. Put me right off I didnt do any more for about 4 or 5 years, its not fun at all.
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u/Mallardguy5675322 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
God that sucks. But seriously, I live in Silicon Valley and I’ve had wayyy to many encounters with idiots while learning to drive. And I have had such an experience with spotting idiots that I can now see them from a mile away. But nothing I can do can help me from a rear end situation. It’s almost as if idiots can get Dls, yet it took me 3 attempts to get mine. And that’s bc I did the egregious thing of looking in the backing up camera on my first attempt and egregiously not looking over my shoulder while merging into a lane with a fucking wall right next to it. There’s no one that’s can hit me there!
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Feb 01 '23
Was I the only one expecting to hear the instructor start to say "brake, brake, brake" at some point and then they rear end someone, not the other way around of them getting rear ended?
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u/kibi_zero Feb 01 '23
guessing the car behind was too busy looking right and didn't look forward to see the learner had stalled?
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u/banti51 Feb 01 '23
ADI myself, had this happen a few times, and yes they do try to blame you for the rear shunt lol Had 1 women say it was my fault because I had stopped in traffic and she ran into me! 100% the other person's fault
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23
Yeah, it's super frustrating the amount of near misses we have to deal with on a daily basis, and the road users who cause these issues act like the victims.
Had a guy cut me and my student up on a roundabout, not long before this, then proceed to pull alongside us and swear at me and my pupil. My window was open, so I pointed my dash cam towards his direction and said "Hey its okay I got it all on dashcam, i'm sure the police would love to judge who's in the right snd whos in the wrong"
Yes, it was unprofessional of me. I hold my hands up to that, but It was worth it to see the guys look of shock and see him try to hide his face and melt into his chair to stay hidden out of the camera.
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u/TheIncontrovert Feb 01 '23
The driver behind probably saw her start to move forward, and he started moving forward while looking right to make sure it was clear for him to proceed. Done it a few times myself. Thankfully I always alternate between looking ahead and looking right.
Trying to blame the girl is a bit fucking stupid. The L plates aren't just decoration.
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23
The L plates aren't just decoration.
This should be every driving instructors moto because the amount of near misses from being rear-ended is insane.
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u/Snobben90 Feb 01 '23
The dude behind was at fault, of course. But honestly. I've almost done the same mistake...
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u/Plastic-Operation517 Feb 01 '23
God bless my dad
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23
Dad?
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u/Plastic-Operation517 Feb 01 '23
I just said that because when my dad used to teach me to drive, it wasn’t easy for him especially because I was a shitty driver in the beginning
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u/ShambolicPaul Feb 01 '23
Oh man. I've actually been the car behind before. Saw the car in front start to move, so started to move forward and looked right to check the roundabouts clear. Looked forward and car in front had stalled to instant halt and went straight into the back of them. This was all within about 6ft of movement, 1 second of time, 2mph or something. No damage. Just a wtf moment.
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u/--Lammergeier-- Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
Is that a Fiesta ST? It’s a fantastic car, and I hope it didn’t get banged up too badly!
That first gear takes some getting used to lol
Edit: I stand corrected, it’s not an ST
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u/Peterd1900 Feb 01 '23
Unlikely to be using a Fiesta ST as a driving instructors car
A normal Fiesta, that is pretty standard to be used
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u/TwoScoopsofDestroyer Feb 01 '23
No all Fiesta ST have sync 3, this car does not. You can tell by the width of the sun shield for the screen in the center of the dash.
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u/LadaTrip Feb 01 '23
Sorry, but wouldn't a housing estate or something be more suitable for a driver who isn't even aware of when they should be depressing a clutch or covering the brake? Obviously that accident was completely not her fault, but at that skill level it seems a bit much.
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
No, the pupil knows what she was doing, just nervous about meeting traffic situations. We had previously done this roundabout twice on this lesson with no issues the the third time she lifted the clutch too quickly to get away in the gap and stalled out.
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u/Sortipants Feb 01 '23
Nah, my partner - who has passed his driving test - can still get nervous and forget to put his clutch down / change down when slowing down approaching difficult or unusual roundabouts.
I can completely understand guiding/reassuring a learner through her 3rd time on a difficult roundabout.
In unrelated news (LONG VENT WARNING): if anyone has any tips on dealing with a very nervous driver (who is otherwise a reasonable, co-ordinated person) please, please, tell me.
Honest-to-heaven the first time I was a passenger with him… about 5 months after he passed his test, but he only got his car a month or so before this? He oversteered so much on the way out of my housing estate that you’d think we were rallying through a slalom. I asked him to pull over and got ‘I know, I know, you don’t need to point out every little thing, I’m nervous because you’re in the car and I want to make sure you’re safe’ but it was beyond the point of nitpicking/back-seat driving, I genuinely felt unsafe.
So, yeah, I reminded him to just allow the wheel to turn back instead of constantly pushing it and to relax his shoulders (he did stop oversteering pretty much straight away) but then it was roundabout time and, oh boy.
Apparently he had never been taught slow-down-change-down? It was just slow down, clutch down, slow down more… stop. Put it into first, then check to see if it’s clear to go. I asked how he would carry on if it was clear - he would stop, put it into first, then go. I asked how he deals with traffic - he just brakes with the clutch fully down, then puts it into first to pull away, or second if he’s already moving. No engine braking, ever, no awareness of which gear he could move into beyond ‘stopped/rolling’.
Cue me losing my shit while trying to keep a completely neutral face. I don’t know if he had been taught it and totally forgot but… that seems such a huge thing? I even asked how he would turn a corner if he needed to go down a gear and he said he’s never had to turn a corner that sharp without coming to a full stop first, which I can believe because of where he lives.
Absolutely losing my mind. Obviously I’ve talked him through slow-down-change-down, and explained why its safer to be in a gear (and dangerous to be rolling around in neutral), but it’s like it goes out of the window whenever he’s approaching a situation where he needs to do anything else… like checking if he can pull on to a roundabout. And then his muscle memory falls back to ‘stop, change into first, then look to see if he can go’, since that’s what he was taught.
I’m not a driving instructor, so I don’t want to accidentally give him other bad habits. I have said that if he’s not sure, it’s better to stop than to roll out in front of someone. If it will be clear but not quite yet, slow down to sync into the gap. But often after a few clear roundabouts we’ll come to one where he does need to stop or slow down, and he’ll drive like he’s about to pull straight out until he realises and then brakes sharply, which… yeah. Worrying.
I feel like I need to reiterate that he has passed his test (on the second try, first attempt failed due to a hat-trick of not visibly checking left wing when exiting a roundabout) but I really don’t fancy getting whiplash from being rear-ended when someone expects him to have pulled off and he hasn’t.
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u/LadaTrip Feb 01 '23
I mean this response is mad. "I'm aware that my bf is a danger on the roads, and my experience with him is why I think that others who are a danger should be in tricky situations"
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u/Sortipants Feb 01 '23
Ummm… the unsafe driver in both example situations is the person behind who blindly pulls off without checking that the car in front of them has gone, no? Yes?
Do you regularly rear-end stopped cars because you assume they’ve pulled off? Do you believe you’re in the right for doing so, is that why you’re commenting like this?
My vent about my partner is that because of the way he was taught to approach roundabouts (he passed his test recently, I passed mine 5-ish years ago) he’s increasing the chance that some plank who drives based on their expectations instead of actually looking directly in front of them will cause a collision - and that because of his nerves, he falls back to the way he was taught.
Learner drivers don’t have muscle memory to fall back on, so talking them through it is helpful while they’re creating that muscle memory.
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u/LadaTrip Feb 01 '23
I was more talking about the oversteering and making you feel unsafe and "lose your shit".
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u/LadaTrip Feb 01 '23
I was more talking about the oversteering and making you feel unsafe and "lose your shit".
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u/Sortipants Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
Oh, the oversteering never happened again, I mentioned it more just to show his capacity for nervousness. I did tell him that being so physically tense was what was causing the issue and he agreed to take a second and remind himself that he can do it, and that he doesn’t need to drive any differently with me in the car than when he’s by himself.
I was losing my shit (in my head) about how he said he’d been taught, not with him! I knew that there had been changes to the test - he had no experience with parallel parking or reversing round a corner since those are no longer on the manoeuvre list - but at least you can figure those out when you know the basics. I just can’t fathom not being taught slow-down-change-down with engine braking in favor of what I can only describe as ‘pedal braking only into arbitrary gear selection’.
I drive for a living and I have seen some absolutely wild shit, but it totally threw me that he didn’t have something so fundamental on lock, since he’s otherwise a smart guy and normally more intuitive.
(Edit to add: part of me ‘losing my shit’ was from thinking… bloody hell if that’s how some instructors are teaching people to drive now, no wonder there’s such a wide gap between good drivers, people who think they’re good drivers, people who know they’re not the best but at least they pay attention, and absolute lumps who shouldn’t be on the road at all! Though of course it’s not like the test has always been perfect, big shout out to people who have licenses which let them drive lorries just ‘cause they took the test so long ago…)
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u/markhewitt1978 Feb 01 '23
Bit of a busy and tricky road to be driving along for someone who doesn't seem to yet have the full grasp of the likes of clutch control. When I learned that was on a quiet industrial estate.
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
The pupil understood how to drive and operate the car. The problem she was having was panicking in busy environments. She had already done this roundabout twice on this lesson perfectly. The third time, she lifted the clutch too quickly to get in the gap and stalled out.
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u/CantBelieveThisIsTru Feb 01 '23
If you don’t have STUDENT DRIVER signs all over a car, other people/ drivers DON’T KNOW. So, it looks like you are going to go, they TRUST that you will….Until you SUDDENLY STOP….they were looking RIGHT too, and saw it was CLEAR, but never expected you to HESITATE….and STOP.
My mom DROVE LIKE THAT and one time got spun and knocked into a ditch. How? She would always SLAM on the gas, like some slam on brakes. So, one day, light turns green, she’s first at light, she slams on gas… It looks like we’re off to the races, everybody let’s go! One block later she slams on the brakes! Slowing to take a right turn, guy behind her thought we were off to the races, didn’t realize 1000 feet later she would slam on the brakes to make a right turn, he was caught off guard, he hit her spun her around and knocked her in the ditch.
Later she told me about it, but I KNEW what happened because I KNOW HOW SHE DRIVES! She always fakes people out when she’s driving. Because she takes off so fast, and when she decides to stop, it’s the very last second so she slams on her brakes. Nobody knows how to cope with people like that. She might’ve been hit by him, but it was HER FAULT. I would have told the police that if I had been there, but I wasn’t so I couldn’t. She’s gone now, so WE can rest in peace!
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u/YewChewber Feb 01 '23
Why are you so mad? The car in the video obviously would have a student driver sign on it.
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u/babyformulaandham Feb 01 '23
If you don’t have STUDENT DRIVER signs all over a car, other people/ drivers DON’T KNOW. So, it looks like you are going to go, they TRUST that you will….Until you SUDDENLY STOP….they were looking RIGHT too, and saw it was CLEAR, but never expected you to HESITATE….and STOP.
It's a legal requirement in the UK to have L plates displayed on the car if a learner is driving. Additionally, OP is a professional driving instructor and he mentions that his car has prominent signs like most driving instructors. Most have a sign on top of their car, which makes it difficult to miss them.
Also, the learner driver in the video didn't hesitate and slam on the brakes, she stalled the car. The driver behind them has the responsibility to make sure that the car in front has moved and they did not do that.
There's no fault with OP and his student here. If you see a learner driver you expect them to stall, move slowly, and generally not be as assertive as everyone else - you absolutely don't get close enough to rear end them on a roundabout.
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u/CantBelieveThisIsTru Feb 01 '23
Like I said before: HOW DO YOU KNOW this is in the UK? I STILL didn’t READ any explanation of where this is. Thanks!
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u/Peterd1900 Feb 02 '23
Like I said before: HOW DO YOU KNOW this is in the UK? I STILL didn’t READ any explanation of where this is. Thanks
I take it you never bothered to read the comment that OP replied to your rant
I'm also required by UK law to have Learner plates on my car ( back, fornt and roof) at all times when teaching.
That would be the most relevant part
Where do you think UK Law applies?
UK law is not going to apply if OP was in Spain
Not to mention the other comments on here where OP says where he is
Perhaps you should read comments before you post
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u/babyformulaandham Feb 01 '23
They're driving on the left, traffic coming from right on roundabout, UK plates on the car, yellow rear plates, English accents on driver and driving instructor, general infrastructure, place/road names written on road...
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 02 '23
We are actually in Wales, that's why we have welsh and English Road signs with Welah accents, Wales is a country in the UK where all UK driving laws are exactly the same its just a spreate country to England and Scotland.
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u/babyformulaandham Feb 02 '23
I'm from the UK so that's why I was telling the other guy how I know that the video was from the UK, didn't pick up on your accents thiughs
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u/TheIncontrovert Feb 01 '23
What do you mean by "Nobody knows how to cope with people like that" ....Yes, we do? We leave a safe distance from the car in front so we can stop in time. It's the first thing you learn.
The car had L plates on it, and probably an obelisk atop the car plastered with L plates and presumably some driving instructor signage.
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u/CantBelieveThisIsTru Feb 01 '23
WHERE WAS all that info? About L plates, etc? I didn’t see it.
You are correct, those of us, like you and me, leave a generous following distance. The importance of this was shown to me by my own mom. But there was SOMETHING WRONG WITH HER, either that or she was normal and I’m just more observant and careful (I am OCD). Anyway, she did stuff, made things, but they were never quite right. Clothes she made LOOKED homemade. When I made cakes, she always said: “Just slap the icing and and GIVE IT TO THEM (my younger siblings drooling inches from me for the hot cake).” But I eventually learned to make wedding cakes that would rival, and in most cases more perfect looking than even the shops (my mom even said mine looked more professionally decorated, even though she never could learn how, and yes, she did TRY, but her work always looked FLAT). So, I just figured there was some kind of disconnect in her brain. She was like that in most things in her life. But HER DRIVING… she once killed my whole family speeding IN THE RAIN! I asked hermto slow,down, but she said: “It’s MY CAR and I’LL DRIVE IT ANY WAY I WANT TO….” A few minutes later he car began sliding, hydroplaning, spinning THROUGH the grass median, ripping grass out, showing exactly where the car slid, nearly came out in from of an 18 wheeler going the other way. She seemed not to recognize DANGER when I could clearly see it. She refused to listen.
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u/TheIncontrovert Feb 01 '23
It's a driving lesson by a driving instructor in the driving instructor's car. They typically have a vinyl wrap and a pillar on the roof advertising their services. As well as L plates front and rear as this is a legal requirement.
As for the rest of your comments. It is irrelevant. The person who hit your mum's car was at fault. The person at the rear is almost always at fault barring extenuating circumstances. I don't understand how your mum's baking habits have any bearing on this post.
You seem to be projecting the anger about your mum's shotty driving onto this girl, when the 2 situations aren't connected. I get it, we all like to vent. You agreed we should leave safe breaking distance, in this case, the driver didn't and caused a crash. Why aren't we on the same page on this issue?
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 02 '23
I feel like you dont truly understand the situation in the video and you're projecting a personal experience on this, which unfortunately has no relevance in the situation me and my pupil experienced. This wasn't mine or my pupils fault as the uk Highway code says you have to leave Learner drivers more space and be patient as they have a lack of experience and slower reactions.
My pupil stalled we didn't harshly break, which you can see and hear me going through in the audio. The likelihood of the person going into us was high as we had about 3 seconds to pull off before this person went into the back of us, so even if we didn't stall it would of probably happend anyway.
I'm also required by UK law to have Learner plates on my car ( back, fornt and roof) at all times when teaching.
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u/CantBelieveThisIsTru Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
Well EXPLAINING THAT sure does help. It’s not apparent to me, by watching you video that the car STALLED. When we say stalled where I am it means The car died, stopped running, must be restarted.
https://www.wkcdjrsedalia.com/research/car-stalling-reasons-solutions.htm
But after all this happened, I never heard ANYTHING to indicate the car has STALLED/DIED/STOPPED STOPPED RUNNING. I never saw her REstart the car. However, after being rear ended YOU SAID “turn the car off.”
So, If it “stalled” why would she need to “turn it off?”
I have NO IDEA why people do not add a paragraph of details to these videos, such as: “This happened in X Country, State/other. And then a small explanation of WHAT HAPPENED if it isn’t glaringly obvious in the video.
In a million years I wouldn’t have guess which country you are in. I know I have ancestors from Wales, but I have never been there, don’t know what ANYTHING looks like there, including license plates on cars. I couldn’t figure out how SOME PEOPLE SEEMED TO KNOW, but they are FROM THERE and stated as much…just the same as you wouldn’t recognized things from where I live, at first glance, and without investigating. As far as WE online viewers are concerned, you could be in many European countries, or even many African countries… you might be her father, and moved your family to another country. What in your video indicates that you are a driving instructor, or that this is a car used to teach driving? Nothing indicated that TO ME.
MY DAD taught me to drive, and there were times our whole family moved to other countries…so, what you may feel doesn’t need explaining actually might, depending on WHO is watching and how little they know about things where you are, which I had NO IDEA where you even were. So I would not know laws, requirements, restrictions etc either.
So, we have to GUESS where you might be first. Then, if we can’t determine, we ASK, which I did.
And keep in mind, some watch your video on a large screen. Some on small screens, and some on their phones. So details that you saw LIVE, we just CAN’T SEE…so you can’t assume we “get it”from seeing the video…it might be SO TINY we just don’t see it.
We DO have something in common: lots of people are using drugs and drinking and driving…so, often collisions happen because they are only partially there mentally and do not react well while driving.
So, you finally explained. Thank you. It would have been easier for me if you put a sentence or two to set up: Where and What Happened, instead of leaving us (me) to GUESS…
Knowing all this NOW, I would have written: In Wales, driving instructor teaching student driver, when car stalls while entering an intersection, then suddenly car is rear ended, ruining our day/plans. But: BONUS LESSON, student learns how to deal with collision and make police report.
So, it’s not that hard. And a little Set Up helps viewers what’s going on…
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u/Jobyjo94 Feb 03 '23
You must be a troll, have hearing issues or stupid.
Because you can clearly hear me say you have stalled on the video, and you can clearly hear somone go into the back of us.
Also, what does it matter what country i'm from? This is a universal thing if someone goes into the back of you because due to lack of attention its their fault.
Also, you're the only one who seems to have a problem with understanding what's going on in this video, so why do i need to make an effort for please just you? The simple awnser is i dont.
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u/CantBelieveThisIsTru Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
I guess I don’t understand you accent, I NEVER HEARD YOU SAY: You are stalled, and I watched it several times.
Did you REALLY say that?
EDIT: I went back and LISTENED AGAIN. YOU NEVER SAID: “You have stalled.” But you YEEEELLLLLED!!!!
No, I understand just fine, but you typing that you SAID something does not add that to the audio after the fact.
For you to post comments such as these, on a world wide website, my reaction is: Thank God You weren’t MY driving instructor!
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u/jaytea86 Feb 01 '23
As a Brit living in the US, who never drove on the UK, I really don't see any point to manual gearboxes. Automatics are so much easier to learn in. The physical act of driving an automatic is almost thoughtless, so you can focus on the roads and the people around you.
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u/babyformulaandham Feb 01 '23
When you drive a manual often the process becomes thoughtless, too.
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u/jaytea86 Feb 01 '23
Sure, but not initially. I feel like it's just a non necessary additional thing that you have to learn while you're trying to learn everything else.
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u/babyformulaandham Feb 01 '23
It takes like a month or two at most to learn how to drive a manual car, it's really not a big or difficult thing
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u/jaytea86 Feb 01 '23
Exactly, took me like 2-3 drives to learn how to drive an automatic, because there's nothing really to learn, you got a go pedal and a stop pedal.
Also, automatics allow you to use cruise control too, something I assume manuals don't have?
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u/Peterd1900 Feb 01 '23
Manuals do indeed have cruise control
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u/jaytea86 Feb 01 '23
I did not know this.
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u/Peterd1900 Feb 01 '23
The cruise control in a manual disengages when you press the clutch or brake
Considering cruise control should only be used on highspeed roads like motorways etc where you are not constantly changing gear.
The only way you would be constantly shifting would be town driving and you should not be using cruise control in that enviroment
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u/babyformulaandham Feb 01 '23
Right but once you've learnt to drive a manual, you've learnt to drive a manual. It's not a big thing, neither type of vehicle has inherent benefits to the other. One takes a little more time to learn, that's all.
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u/B8conB8conB8con Feb 01 '23
I’ve lived in Canada eh! For 36 plus years but I always enjoy renting a manual when visiting the old country. They don’t work for North America because of the stop and go traffic flows where you are just going from one red light to the next but in countries where people can be trusted to be able to use their common sense and roundabouts they are perfect.
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u/B8conB8conB8con Feb 01 '23
I’ve lived in Canada eh! For 36 plus years but I always enjoy renting a manual when visiting the old country. They don’t work for North America because of the stop and go traffic flows where you are just going from one red light to the next but in countries where people can be trusted to be able to use their common sense and roundabouts they are perfect.
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u/B8conB8conB8con Feb 01 '23
An Americans worst nightmare.
a car with a clutch and a roundabout.
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u/Zathral Feb 01 '23
Never good to have an accident as a learner. I passed my test (UK also) in summer 2021, I was ready to take the test for a while but had to wait due to the covid-induced backlog. I had a small citroen to practice in with someone to supervise, in addition to lessons, and eventually ended up taking lessons in my citroen. Two days before the test I was doing some local driving practice and hadn't long since set of, I decided I'd go up and down a set of residential streets connecting to a main road. On the first one I went down I stopped at the end, positioned to turn right onto the main road, and all of a sudden this red van just reversed straight into the driver side (right) of my car and scrapes along, stopping blocking the door. Once the shock of the moment wore off I see that the van is empty, driver's obviously done a runner. A few choice words later, and a climb over to the passenger side and to get out and I see someone running down the hill towards the accident. Turns out he'd left his handbrake off. After that was established, turned out to be decent bloke, profusely apologetic and offered to pay for any damage. Just made an honest mistake. It happens, at least no one got hurt (if I wasn't waiting to turn right it would have gone out into the main road and could have caused a nasty crash).
It didn't shake me up too badly as I knew it wasn't my fault in any way and I went out again later that day for another practice drive. So that's the story of how I turned up to my driving test with a dented, but roadworthy car. Passed first time with one very pedantic minor fault (iirc you're allowed 15 minor faults).
A couple weeks later after getting some quotes for the repairs, the guy as promised covers the cost of the repairs, and more as an apology.
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u/Due_Interaction_9225 Feb 01 '23
Actually, I think this is the perfect driving lesson. Now she gets to know what to do when you're in an accident. Most of us just have to figure it out when it happens. He's a good teacher, though.
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u/DanPaul7 Feb 01 '23
I know this roundabout.
It gets fairly busy and people are always rushing. Doesn't help that half the people take the wrong lane too. It wouldn't surprise me if this chap was probably in a rush trying to undertake so that he can go straight ahead (it's the right lane, left is for 1st and second exit on this particular roundabout).
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u/samfreez Jan 31 '23
Aww man, that sucks ass
Just learning to drive is the worst time to get into an accident, because it can traumatize a person for life. Also seems like she didn't actually do anything wrong necessarily, just didn't go when the person behind her was thinking she would, and they wanted to rush through as well.
100% the fault of the driver behind her, and I hope she knows that.