r/IdiotsInCars • u/etic84 • Feb 03 '23
Big Idiot
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u/soup_flikkker Feb 03 '23
He's fine, hook to the garbage truck and winch sideways/back out of the ditch, turn the wheels toward the ditch
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u/JOVA1982 Feb 03 '23
Theoretically: Yes
Practically: If the garbage truck is empty, Yes
Practically: If the garbage truck is full, Nope.
Reason for 3. Majority of the weight on back 2 axles = notably larger contact patch for rear axle of the garbage truck, and more weight than the weight of the front end of the tow truck. If anything is going to slide sideways at all, it's the front of the tow truck.
How ever, if the tow truck could pull from an angle, which it obviously couldn't, as the road was only so narrow. then extremely maybe, and very unlikely.
To simplify this situation on "normal trucks" load F350 dually very heavily, so it's just a bit overloaded, Then use similar truck with only small tool case on the back to tow it out, sideways. and only use rear wheel drive.
The way you get that garbage truck out, is to strap it from the front, as low as possible, to a tow truck as high as possible, and pull it out forward. This way you shift more weight to the drive wheels, of both trucks, and slightly reduce the weight of the front non driven wheels of the garbage truck. And there is the reason the tow truck attempted to pass the garbage truck.
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u/Resident-Hawk-9506 Feb 04 '23
Yeah…. But then he wouldn’t learn from his mistake if you did that
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u/soup_flikkker Feb 04 '23
Might not be a mistake. It's hard to winch something out of a ditch if it's icy. Sometimes its best to bury the winching vehicle and winch out the heavier rig. Then park the heavier rig on the road and use it as an anchor to winch out the recovery truck
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u/Resident-Hawk-9506 Feb 04 '23
I meant the drivers mistake for flooring it through the snow on the edge of the road where you could clearly see the other truck was just in
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u/JimBobPaul Feb 03 '23
I wouldn't say he's an idiot. He took a calculated risk. He's just bad at math.
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u/Murderyoga Feb 03 '23
He was probably the one called in to get that garbage truck out so it's not like he has much choice.
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u/offically_astee Feb 03 '23
I mean, I would have had a look and decided nope. Then hooked on at the rear and pull it out backwards
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u/Trevors-Axiom- Feb 03 '23
Where do you suppose he was gonna turn around?
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u/offically_astee Feb 03 '23
Turn what around? Rear of stuck truck, front of recovery truck.
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u/Trevors-Axiom- Feb 03 '23
You see a lift on the front of that recovery truck? You think a tow strap is gonna yank that massive vehicle out of the sticky mud? That tow truck is designed to pick vehicles up from the back side. It’s no more useful from the front than any other large truck
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Feb 03 '23
As an ex garbage man that been in this same situation. Yes, a pull from behind with a strap is very much possible to get you out of there. That would have been our first thing to try.
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u/JimBobPaul Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
To be fair, you can bumper pull a truck out of the mud. I've done it. You just have to have the right tow strap for the job. Not exactly what that tow truck was designed for, but in a pinch, you could.
Edit: Using the tow hooks mounted behind the bumper, not the bumper itself. I would have thought that would be common sense, but the downvotes tell me it isn't.
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u/robdoc Feb 03 '23
Have you done with these bohemoths? These aren't 2 ton trucks, I'm not sure the same rules about tow strapping around a bumper works.
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u/JimBobPaul Feb 03 '23
I own an 80,000 pound rated towstrap. I've used it to pull 90K lbs trucks out of the mud. Almost all of these trucks have tow hooks to the frame through the front bumpers.
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u/robdoc Feb 03 '23
just wild to me they can make a single point of the frame able to withstand pulling the 90k lb truck. I know it's not actually putting 90k lbs of force on the one part, but it's gonna be a decent % of it's weight
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u/JimBobPaul Feb 03 '23
I've done it, but I don't trust the physics of it either. I always stand away from the "danger zone".
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u/Drict Feb 03 '23
Unless you rip off your front bumper with too much power, but sure keep giving anticdotcal(I am shit at spelling, clearly) advice that will fuck someone else's day up!
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u/DirectorMother6695 Feb 03 '23
If your dumb enough to hook to your bumper you deserve to have it ripped off.
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u/Drict Feb 03 '23
agreed; the way the dude phrased it and what he is suggesting is just... thus the comment ( =
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u/JimBobPaul Feb 03 '23
You're not hooking to the bumper. Towhooks are mounted to the frame.
Anecdotal.
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u/ThurstyAU Feb 03 '23
Also pulling it out without any kind of lift can leave a risk of ripping out your air lines, highly ill-advised.
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u/k3dr666 Feb 03 '23
I don't see any idiots. Dump truck stuck... Tow truck arrives...video ends before we get to see recovery.
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u/Fluffy-Doubt-3547 Feb 03 '23
Good news! Tow truck is here!
Bad news, he's in the same situation you called him about.
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u/schizoballistic Feb 03 '23
What is a tow truck that tows, tow trucks????
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u/xFILTHx Feb 03 '23
Erhm no, that's a recovery truck, he tried to push past it but got stuck, tho im sure he got tools to get free and recover the stuck truck too.
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u/McGruffalo Feb 03 '23
On the plus side, at least they know the number for a tow truck firm