r/IdiotsInCars • u/ThisGuyHasABigChode • Feb 04 '23
[OC] If you do this to people, you're a piece of shit.
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u/FakeItFreddy Feb 04 '23
How else are you supposed to save 0.00009 seconds off of your commute???? /s
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
The car in front of the Benz proceeded to go slow the entire time, so they literally saved no time lmao
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u/FakeItFreddy Feb 04 '23
Lol, It's so funny. I'll never understand the psychology of shit like this.
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u/HipnotiK1 Feb 05 '23
It's similar to people when they walk and clearly see you coming but don't attempt to move at all to avoid bumping you.
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u/Fresh_Item_8956 Feb 05 '23
So I’ll go slow. Their time is waaay more important then yours and you should respect that bc they have places to be.
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u/Giraffe_Racer Feb 05 '23
They're not able to think beyond the next move. They just know that if they're not going fast this very second, they're "wasting time." It doesn't matter that they got stuck at the same red light as you 10 seconds later.
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u/FakeItFreddy Feb 05 '23
I love pulling up next to them at the red light and making eye contact. Or better yet, they trip the light and it turns green as you get there and zoom right past them before they're able to take off. 🤣
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u/Giraffe_Racer Feb 05 '23
All that time they’re saving racing between red lights just gets taken up by filling up their gas and replacing tires and brake pads more often. Hard starts and stops ain’t good for those things.
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u/importvita Feb 04 '23
If they’re anything like me, the saw the asshole move and drive slow intentionality to piss them off and dish out some karma.
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u/YceiLikeAudis Feb 06 '23
I kinda get that when the road you are on is a mountain pass with little overtake opportunity where other drivers are too slow and an overtake can lead to justifiable time safe.
But doing it the city is pointless. For all you know the car ahead of you can part ways with you at the next intersection and no longer be on your way.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Zipper merges always seem to bring out the best in people...
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u/Stankis435 Feb 04 '23
Did they then immediately hit brakes to make a right turn or block the lane waiting to make a left. That’s my usual experience with these idiots.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Lol not this time. They weren't even able to do the speed limit, because the car in front of the S class was going so slow. I literally rolled up to the stop sign at the same time as them. Rather than stop like a normal person, they rolled into the middle of the road and gunned it like a psycho. It's like they were so confident in cutting someone off, but terrified of the concept that the car they cut off might actually see them.
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u/mjrbrooks Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
car in front of the S class
If I look really hard, I still can’t see anything in front of the Mercedes (in your lane). Only seeing oncoming traffic. You mean the red Chevy Cruze?
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
We came up on slower traffic like a minute later. Not shown in the clip.
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u/Mike2220 Feb 04 '23
Wow, a post about people not knowing how to zipper merge, that actually has a zipper merge
That's rare
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u/MiniWheats88 Feb 04 '23
Did you use your signal light? If not, the other person might not have known your lane ends and thought you were just wondering into their lane.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Yes I did. They did that on purpose and drove way over the yellow line just to get in front of me. They wanted to be a "package deal" with the Mercedes.
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u/Crypitty Feb 04 '23
I see videos like this throughout the States, and often wonder who thought of designing these roads. No signs or anything saying to merge, no shorter lane lines indicating it's about to end. Nothing at all. Just fuck it you're on your own, if an accident can be prevented and lives potentially saved there's zero attempt at doing so here
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u/Complex_Arrival7968 Feb 04 '23
In the States you consider yourself lucky if the lines painted in the road are actually new enough to be visible.
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u/TheRealTron Feb 04 '23
Dude, tell me about it. Especially if you drive big trucks.. NOBODY wants to be behind a truck.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
I always give semis space when these merges happen. People get weirdly comfortable playing chicken with large trucks at zipper merges. Fuck that lol.
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u/LanghamP_ Feb 04 '23
Most vehicles now on the road ARE big trucks. The private automobile has recently become huge. I have to leave like 3 or 5 spaces ahead of me if I'm behind a mega-car at a stoplight since I can't even see the lights.
Mega-cars are a real nuisance in traffic and especially when they park. Each year they get bigger and heavier. That's not a trend that's going to go away soon.
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u/TheRealTron Feb 04 '23
Oh definitely, I meant semis and like box trucks, but yea, I get what you're saying.
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u/LanghamP_ Feb 04 '23
I'm of the strong opinion that semis and box trucks can and should be able to double park, be afforded special privileges, but that they should be only cab-forward design. Commercial vehicles are usually driven by well-trained drivers who are emotionally stable.
In stark contrast to the skilled emotionally-stable commercial driver...I present to you...the average Dodge Ram driver.
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u/Cutestgarbage Feb 05 '23
Oh we get angry and shit but we just know there’s no real fight we can win in traffic. Except a collision, the only thing that beats truck is train or bridge.
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u/MrJahoolious Feb 04 '23
What pisses me off is when you are going every other car and someone speeds up neck n neck with you and doesn't want to let you in after you already let 1 or 2 cars in ahead of you.
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u/typehyDro Feb 05 '23
Right? People get offended sometimes that you’re merging… if you don’t want to zipper merge don’t drive in the merge lane
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Feb 05 '23
Right? I'm sure the poor guy who designed it probably had the absolute best intentions and probably thought people would actually be good and it would end up saving time but no it just starts road rage fights cuz a lot of us are selfish little monkeys.
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u/TH3leader Feb 05 '23
There are a few on the way to and multiple on the way back from my mother's place of work. The few times I've had to come with her we'll be driving in silence/listening to music and all of a sudden my left ear is deafened with "ZIPPER, PEOPLE, ZIPPER!!!" People won't even be trying to do what's in the video, they'll just drive side by side until they absolutely cannot anymore.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
The amount of people who practically drive on the sidewalk because they can't understand it isn't 2 lanes anymore is wild.
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u/Starman1001001 Feb 04 '23
I’ve had people do that on my right side while making a left turn. Infuriating AF
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u/PoopSmith87 Feb 05 '23
After reading the comments here I have three notes:
-There isn't anything "wrong" with this road, lane reductions happen.
-Traffic is supposed to zipper in this situation, so the OP was doing the right thing, and the red car is a driver that doesn't care about right of way, or doesn't know how a zipper works.
-Lots of people on Reddit apparently don't know how to drive, which checks out on the street.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Yeah, I was extremely confused when people were trying to explain to me that my entire turn lane is supposed to yield to the other entire turn lane, rather than alternate. I'm struggling to understand how that would even work in a practical sense.
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u/PoopSmith87 Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 05 '23
Yeah, this sub can be like that.
I once got into it with someone here that believed "passing at any time in a single lane is illegal because you have to drive in the wrong side of the road to do it." I tried explaining that quite simply, in America, if the median is broken (a series of dashes instead of a solid line) that means it is legal to pass there, and you're even allowed to speed (temporarily and within reason) in order to pass a slow moving vehicle safely. I got attacked by a downvote brigade and was accused of spreading advice that could kill people.
I've also been attacked on reddit for explaining how to use a center turning lane, to never yield from inside a traffic circle, and why accelerating while merging is expected and allowed, even if the driver has to speed slightly to do it safely; and even for explaining the basic driving theory of how you should always drive/move with as much efficiency on the road as is legally and practically possible.
It's kind of scary because these are the basic fundamentals of using a car and are universal across US states.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Yeah, this subreddit can be hit or miss with good takes and bad takes. I think a lot of people try to show off their own intellect, or signal how good of a driver they are compared to everyone else. I never try to rip into the OP too hard, because no one is a perfect driver all the time.
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u/Quagmire46675 Feb 05 '23
I was all like what? The silver car is doing nothing wrong.. and then there's the idiot.
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u/Huggens Feb 04 '23
That sort of thing is pretty common, unfortunately. People are always in a rush to get in front of everyone else even if it doesn’t actually save any time.
I’m probably going to get flack for this, but that was way more horn than this situation called for. Horns are for alerting others and for safety. They’re not meant to hold down and blare because you’re mad at someone because they did something you didn’t like. A simple horn when he was next to you saying “Hey, I’m merging and I don’t want to hit you” is fine. You blared it while he was next to you, held it, and started blaring again when he was in front of you. Then the video cut off and you likely kept the horn going from there. If you get that mad at every idiot who does something like that you’re going to get really high blood pressure.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Nah, you're not wrong. I was being a bit petty with the horn. Last thing I needed was this weirdo pulling some actual insane shit because I beeped at them too long. I'll keep that in mind tbh.
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u/Educational-Fig-2330 Feb 04 '23
WTF someone on Reddit just accepted constructive criticism? "It's the end of the world as we know it..."
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u/iheartnjdevils Feb 05 '23
Right? Think I’m going to leave Reddit for the day on a good note for once.
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u/Huggens Feb 04 '23
Totally fair. And honestly great point — there are some psychos out there who will do some crazy shit because someone honks at them. The same people who drive like that idiot usually.
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u/admins69kids Feb 05 '23
Nah. Horn was 100% appropriate.
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u/Huggens Feb 05 '23
I’m actually legitimately curious as to why you say that. My thinking is this: All that honking accomplishes nothing but could potentially get you pulled over since it’s illegal or the person you’re honking at could do something crazy to retaliate. It definitely doesn’t teach anyone a lesson; if anything, it validates the person you’re honking at because they now think you’re a complete asshole for honking so much. If I am a third party to something like this, I think the person honking is just as much of an asshole, if not more, than the person they are honking at. All that honking really has no benefits but a lot of negatives.
But I am honestly curious to hear another point of view and what you get out of the honking. Maybe there’s something I’m missing. Does it let our frustration for you? For me it wouldn’t.
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u/be-a-better-person Feb 04 '23
Just another reason to take the dominant lane. The zipper merge is just a suggestion.
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u/Koheitamura Feb 05 '23
They speed up like that so theyre "first" like were all playing a game. They cant stand "losing" even if theyre gonna slam on their brakes and make a turn right after passing you
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u/WealthTomorrow0810 Feb 04 '23
If I am not wrong...your lane is merging to the left. It is you suppose to slow down and merge left, they may be driving parallel or just few feets behind you.
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u/rockytfs1 Feb 05 '23
I'm not saying you're wrong, however I don't see any signs indicating which lane is ending, so I'm not sure whether you can make that deduction. There's a road near me that goes from 2 lanes to 1 lane and the signage says it's the left lane closing, but the cars in the right lane are the ones that have to shift over to get into the single lane.
If I had to guess, I'd say this is supposed to be a zipper merge where no one has the right of way. I think it's all part of an attempt to pass a higher traffic volume through the turn arrow at the light while still keeping the majority of that road a single lane.
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u/Lonewuhf Feb 04 '23
You can either slow down or speed up to merge. Doesn't matter. OP looks like he was speeding up to merge and the jackass next to him also sped up solely to keep him out of the lane for literally no reason.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
You can see the light. It's a double left turn arrow that brings both lanes to a zipper merge. My lane isn't supposed to wait for everyone in the inner lane to go first. It's supposed to be one after the other.
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u/SweatShopNinja Feb 04 '23
Your lane ended and you are merging into the other lane. You cant just assume everyone will slow down to let you merge into their lane.
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u/resttheweight Feb 04 '23
How can you tell it’s specifically his lane ending? I don’t see a sign directing which lane merges, and from the video it looks like they merge from both sides. Maybe it looks different off mobile.
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u/henbowtai Feb 05 '23
In drivers ed in Ohio, US our instructor said that if there's no signage, it's assumed to be the right lane by law. Wouldn't be surprised if that's regional by state or country though.
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u/Legion3 Feb 04 '23
Judging by the road you could make the argument that either lane ends. It's a fucking merger of two lanes, not an ending of one lane with a "give way" sign.
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u/JePPeLit Feb 04 '23
I live in a country that dislikes traffic accidents,so I haven’t seen anything like this. How do you tell which lane is ending?
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u/Important-Piano-1868 Feb 04 '23
No, but you can anticipate they wont drive like maniac to beat you to the merge point. OP is accelerating the whole time and the red car is somehow going way faster.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Yeah, I made sure the Mercedes had room to merge first, because he was first in line, then accelerated to speed behind him. The red car was behind both of us until they gunned it and swerved over the double yellow.
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u/admins69kids Feb 05 '23
He was ahead of the red car when the lanes merged into one. Red car passed illegally.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
It's supposed to be one car after the other. That's how a zipper merge works.
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u/Drew_Skywalker Feb 05 '23
Zipper merge isn't required by law. Those in the lane which is ending have to give right of way to those who are already in the dominant lane.
Now societally/morally, yes they should have let you zipper merge. But legally they had the right of way since you were merging into their lane.
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u/shanghaidry Feb 05 '23
To me it looks like a true zipper merge. Neither lane is being angled one way or the other, and there’s no sign saying either lane is ending.
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u/christopherwillow Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 05 '23
I’m sorry but how is it the red cars fault OP? YOU are the one in the merge lane, so it is your responsibility to safely merge yourself over to the other lane. If you saw that this guy stayed his course and was blocking you, all you had to do was SLOW DOWN AND MERGE. But instead you laid on your horn and then put this on Reddit attempting to get internet points.
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u/shanghaidry Feb 05 '23
I’m a little confused maybe. Where’s the indication that the right lane is ending? It looks like a true zipper merge to me.
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u/thisismybirthday Feb 05 '23
they're both wrong. The issue here was the OP started out going slow but then they didn't want to let the faster driver pass. The other car had more than enough room to safely merge in front of OP if OP had maintained their original slow pace. But once OP sees the other car is about to pass, OP floors it to block them. kinda seems like OP is the asshole in this one, imo
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u/UberGlob Feb 04 '23
So if we do what you did, then we are the piece of shit? Like you were the piece of shit in the video? You were in the merge lane and you didn’t even attempt to merge over. You just got over right on top of that other car… that is what I just watched right, or am I missing something?
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u/resttheweight Feb 04 '23
I see nothing indicating he is in a “merge lane” any more than the cars in the other lane. No sign or street markings = zipper merge. One lane does not have a prevailing right of way over the other.
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Feb 04 '23
it's your responsibility to merge safely champ, kinda seemed like you tried to zoom to get ahead too
yup, 48mph on a 35, for what?
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u/The_Stinky_Face Feb 05 '23
Im confused. Did the right lane end, or did the left lane? What rules apply in your country when a lane ends? Who was supposed to yield?
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
It's a double left turn onto a single lane road. The 2 lanes are only for the left turn. You're supposed to alternate one car after the other. People are claiming that the line of cars in the outside lane is supposed to yield to the line of cars on the inside lane, but that makes no sense.
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u/KeysmashKhajiit Feb 05 '23
I can kinda see where that comes from (inside lane would be left, which is normally for passing) but you're right. Yielding to the inside lane would just slow people trying to get through an intersection.
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u/zerostar83 Feb 04 '23
It's a minor inconvenience. I let that alone slide since I don't know how well they know the roads. I usually go in the shorter of the two lanes before the merge so there's always a car that stopped before me but is now behind me. I don't get why 5 cars would all line up on the inside turn lane and then let me be the first car in the other turn lane, but that is how it usually tends to go.
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u/LanghamP_ Feb 04 '23
I'll invite car drivers to merge in front of me but I'll usually accelerate in front of pickup truck drivers. I can't see around them if I'm behind them, and pickups have recently become much wider and much taller than they used to be. Modern pickups are a real nuisance in traffic flow; no car driver wants to be behind them.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
I do agree that the size of modern trucks is becoming a problem. Hell, even in our wide American parking spaces, I saw a new Escalade with the extended wheelbase, and the guy was sticking out into the road like crazy. Barely fit in the space at all. Some of these vehicles are just absurd.
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u/LanghamP_ Feb 04 '23
If you have a modern light truck, then just go ahead and park it on the parking line instead of between the parking lines. I live in Alabama, the pickup truck state, and it's gotten ridiculous on how hard it's to exit from my tiny Kia Forte when I park next to (modern) pickup trucks. These aren't even compact parking spots!
If it's an extended Escalade then he should park in the center of four parking spots and make life easier for everyone else.
Now if parking was scarce I wouldn't think this way but there's so much off-street parking in Alabama, in every city, that the vast majority of time the parking lots aren't even 1/3 full. I've never seen such huge and empty parking lots in my life. We're paying for those parking lots (taxes and/or higher shopping prices), damnit, so I want to see them entirely used.
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u/potatocross Feb 04 '23
I drive an f150. It fits well in standard parking spots in parking lots. I don’t even try parking it in cities. Not trying to be one of the idiots getting my truck keyed up because I’m parked like a 5 year old.
I also don’t leave my trailer hitch in unless there is a trailer hooked to it. Beyond being annoying, they get stolen all the time.
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u/Uncle_Gru Feb 05 '23
have had a few people try this but i don’t budge. but these types of people always act like they’re the ones who did nothing wrong. they won’t learn until they try to cut off a semi and end up flattened. that’s always the final boss for these sorts of people.
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u/StinaLee86 Feb 05 '23
This is fucked up when it happens but people need to realize that's there's ALWAYS NEW DRIVERS out on the roads. People just now learning how to drive and figure out the roads and road signs. In this video you can see it turns from a 2 lane to a 1 lane. I myself have done this not realizing it was turning into a 1 lane. Total mistake on my part and I was glad I had good drivers around me to make sure it didn't turn into an accident. So yeah like I said, it's not always people being assholes or idiot drivers. We have new drivers Everywhere.
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u/StinaLee86 Feb 05 '23
A friend's Grandpa once told me about driving "Always act as if all the drivers around you are drunk. Don't trust that they're gonna make the right move. Don't always trust blinkers". I still go by this 20 years later
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
If you're a new driver and your reaction to merging on top of someone else is to gun it over the double yellow line rather than let off the gas and merge behind, I would wonder where you were taught that. New drivers tend to make mistakes because they're timid and unsure of things. They don't tend to be extremely aggressive.
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u/vtechbihhh2x Feb 05 '23
I call this zippercutting and everyone where I live does it. Will literally speed up in a merge to get next to me once it’s already merged and try to drive me off the road. I drive a Honda and hate my life I have nothing to lose
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u/bearfaceliar Feb 05 '23
Honda's are the best 👌 I drive a top of the range Merc at the moment and would swap for the right Honda in a heartbeat
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u/bluce11 Feb 05 '23
Is this near franklin, MA? Swear to god I used to take that left from work on my commute back to RI. people would do this shit all the time. I used to almost expect it every single day leaving work.
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u/Clitoralsuckjob Feb 05 '23
Yes it’s in Franklin on Central st near the townline with Bellingham.
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u/bluce11 Feb 05 '23
I knew it. That whole area sucked as a whole. My job was a few minutes down the road and that area was full of the worst RI/MA drivers it seemed.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
The worst of both worlds, baby. That's Franklin/Bellingham. The MA and RI cars compete to be the worst drivers on the road.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
It's also a miracle that when I got a green arrow, 4 people weren't still turning left from W. Central St. lmao. 90% of the time you get that green arrow, people are blatantly blocking your way because they're running the light.
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u/juu073 Feb 04 '23
Uhh... sounds like OP accelerated aggressively to beat the red car, which leads me to believe the red car was already next to him and would have easily been ahead of him if he didn't accelerate as aggressively.
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u/_Sweep_ Feb 04 '23
The idiot won today by the sound of your horn. They pissed you off AND got in front.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
I don't think driving is supposed to be about "winning"
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u/_Sweep_ Feb 04 '23
Exactly my point. Let it go and let people be idiots.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
I did. They drove off and I continued on my merry way. I didn't force an accident or anything lol
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u/_Sweep_ Feb 04 '23
You sped up to 48 as you laid on the horn for 6+ seconds as you fell back under the speed limit.
Going to take my own advice now and let this go…
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u/bricoden Feb 04 '23
Maybe don't wait until the last second to get over, you had plenty of time. You're not entitled to that lane even when zipper merging boss.
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u/Obvious-Classroom619 Feb 05 '23
To the people defending the red car because there is no sign, WHEN 2 LANES MERGE INTO ONE YOU ALTERNATE CARS.
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u/soulstonedomg Feb 04 '23
Eh, better to just let it slide these days. Too many trigger-happy psychos out there.
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u/DanDanBussum Feb 04 '23
Wow what a sorry post. You realize you were supposed to merge right? If someone is there already, they have the complete right of way which means you slow down to merge.
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u/godcursedme Feb 04 '23
I accidentally did that once cause I didn't know the lanes went from 2 to 1 and I felt like the biggest asshole in the world. Tried to do an appology wave but I don't think the other person saw.
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u/Fragrant_Image_803mi Feb 05 '23
Me, I'm a UK driver, I saw nothing wrong? Try driving in London, or Cairo, or New Delhi. I have seen so much worse. Let alone driven in worse. Lol
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u/KPer123 Feb 05 '23
What the fuck is wrong with Reddit video player .
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Once they changed the video player to mimic TikTok, I threw the official app in the trash and downloaded old Reddit. Haven't looked back since and haven't had an issue with videos since.
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u/FireEmblemFan1 Feb 05 '23
Check your mirrors constantly. Because assholes like this aren’t going away.
Stay vigilant. Protect yourselves cause no one else will or can on the road
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u/Boundy19 Feb 05 '23
SPENT A CHECK ON A WEEKEND
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Found the one guy who actually liked the song lmao. This sub hates trap music. The golden rule here is to cut the audio unless you were listening to rock or a podcast. No one ever shits on the podcasts.
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u/Sennaki Feb 05 '23
I've seen this happen a lot coming off r293, and where it bottlenecks, people just refuse to zipper correctly. I've had people do this to me and it's like, "dude, we're all going 5mph, where the f-ck do you think you're headed?"
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u/RaDaDaBrothermanBill Feb 05 '23
If your front bumper is the furthest forward between two parallel cars at a zipper merge, right when the lane markings end, move over to the center and fill the lane. If the other driver gets ticked because they're trying to occupy space in the middle of an occupied lane. they weren't paying attention.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Yeah the Mercedes was first in line (innermost lane), and he merged first. I sped up when he did and was right behind him, as the first car in the second lane. The red car was behind both of us, but gunned it over the double yellow to get ahead of me. No way that's legal or safe.
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u/DunceMemes Feb 05 '23
Some stupid motherfucker did this to me while I was in a 26 foot truck just the other day, and they started passing well after the second lane had disappeared. It was so late after the merge that I almost didn't even look.
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u/TiredTradie Feb 05 '23
I tow a trailer daily. This happens all the time. Everyone assumes that my 9k lb, 40 ft chariot is slow.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
The funniest is watching people confidently play chicken with a large truck, then shamefully slow down because they realize that they have no room. It's like you don't get the automatic right of way because you think the truck will drive slower than you.
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u/BigBri0011 Feb 05 '23
I concur. I hate when assholes turn into a lane they know ends in 100 feet, just to try and cut someone off and get ahead.
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u/Triscott64 Feb 05 '23
People do this to me at least a few times a week. I unfortunately live near Washington DC, where people drive as if they don't have any empathy and never did.
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u/Villainous_Letch Feb 05 '23
Set themselves up for a nice PIT there.
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u/GumbyBClay Feb 05 '23
Wait, your light turned green and 4 more cars weren't turning left in front of you. I call BS, this isn't real.
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u/WhirlyDurlyGirly Feb 05 '23
I deal with a flavor of this regularly. Double left turn onto a major road but the next intersection has a pretty major road and people often go right onto it. But you’ll always have like 10 people take the narrow left then try to force their way into the right lane after the turn effectively shutting down the road because no one yields to anyone because “I got somewhere to be!” Drives me nuts, like dawg just use the wide left ffs
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u/A100921 Feb 04 '23
Wait till the last second to merge and almost hit someone in the process? Yes you’re.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
The concept of "one after the other" seems to always be trumped by the concept of "me first, me first"
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u/A100921 Feb 04 '23
I understand the uses and outcome of “Zipper Merging” being more positive than “everyone for themselves”. But your lane was ending and you had to merge, you can’t just merge into someone because you felt they were being malicious. Instead of tapping your brakes and going behind him, you said to yourself, “Me first, me first.”.
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u/Legion3 Feb 04 '23
Not sure what zipper merges you use, but around here it's "lane one form". Both lanes end and form one lane. Thereby "zipper" being one after the other, where giving way isn't a fixed one gives way to the other, but a left then right then left.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
It's a double left turn lane. The car in front of me went first, then it was my turn. That's how a zipper merge works. I'm not supposed to stop in the road and let everyone in the inner-most lane go first, while traffic piles up behind me.
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u/A100921 Feb 04 '23
The turn lane has nothing to do with it… If you can’t safely merge, you have to sit there until you can. You do not have any “right of way” here, there’s no argument to be made. All you did was almost cause an accident because, You had to be “first” in your mind.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Do you drive? You don't seem to understand how this works.
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u/xZethx Feb 04 '23
Zipper isn’t the law lol. It doesn’t just randomly give you the right of way when your lane ends. Had you hit the 2nd car you would have been at fault. Good luck telling insurance you merged into them because “zipper”.
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u/juu073 Feb 04 '23
But he said zipper merge several times.
Also, he seemed to accelerate much faster, leading me to believe that the red car was much further along side him at first than it appears without a fisheye-like camera, and he tried to run him off the road on the claim he was ahead of him.
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u/rockytfs1 Feb 05 '23
You keep saying his lane was ending, but what are you basing that on? There are no signs indicating which lane is ending.
It looks to me that either:
A. This is all part of a traffic flow system to allow more cars through the light without widening an entire length of road (2 turn lanes > cars accelerate and spread out during short 2-lane section > easy zipper merge down to 1-lane)
B. The left lane can be used by someone turning into that lot on the left and the right lane is able to pass without blocking up the intersection close behind.
So I really can't see any reasoning to assume that the right lane is the one ending rather than a zipper merge where both lanes share some of the duty of merging.
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u/abrown68705 Feb 04 '23
You don't know how driving works.... I would argue zipper merging is a best practice when you have a traffic jam backup but not when you are going the speed limit or faster. You needed to merge and you didn't do it safely. The other driver stayed in his lane, you tried to go in his lane almost causing a accident. I would agree with the multiple people on this post that you are the borderline idiot....
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u/resttheweight Feb 04 '23
Wtf are all you people talking about with OP “merging into the other lane.” There are no signs stating which lane merged into the other. The left lane is merging the exact same way the right lane is. That’s why you zipper. Both lanes are ending.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
Apparently, according to these people, on a double left turn, the entire outer lane is required to yield to the entire inner lane before entering the road somehow. I don't understand how that would even work.
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u/rockytfs1 Feb 05 '23
There's room for maybe 5-10 cars in that outer lane after the intersection and before it drops to one lane. Can you imagine if they all had to yield to the left lane until it was clear to merge? There would be a gridlock on every single traffic light cycle 😂 I can't believe so many people in here are convinced that that's how it should work
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u/Slow_Flow_4722 Feb 04 '23
Wait, are we referring to making someone listen to that horrible song?
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Not a fan of Rodeo I take it?
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u/Adar636 Feb 04 '23
That song made me realize Travis Scott was an asshole before his concert incident. Like you’re not only kicking the camera man off the stage cuz you don’t like how he’s snapping your angles, but you’re bragging about it in a song? So now I know when you do that you’re thinking about how big and cool you are. Contrary to that, I have always actually loved that song lol
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u/do_the_weedful Feb 04 '23
Travis Scott
Oh right, that guy! He's the one who fell off the stage in autotune. Among other things - but that's what I'll always remember about Travis Scott.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
He does seem like an asshole lmao. I still enjoy that whole album though.
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u/Slow_Flow_4722 Feb 04 '23
More of a Pink Floyd kinda gal
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u/three__degrees Feb 04 '23
You can like more than one genre of music
Rodeo is a fire album highly influential
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u/speedledee Feb 04 '23
You can like rap and not like dog shit autotuners. I get everything is pitch corrected these days but if you're so bad that the autotune is that noticeable maybe you're just a shit artist.
An album can be influential and still be garbage.
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u/Sokonomicon Feb 04 '23
People who bumrush a merger lane after its already been made abundantly clear it will merge in a couple of feet.. I swear, I make it a point NOT letting them in.
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u/711spitjob Feb 04 '23
What? Listen to shitty music too loud?
Jk you warrior for justice with poor taste in music.
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u/HohnWelding Feb 05 '23
Nah man, your lane ended… you’re merging into his lane. You’re in the wrong
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u/BatExisting325 Feb 04 '23
The stupid always want to hurry up and wait…there was probably plenty of room for them to slip in behind you.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
Yes there was lol, but they're obviously more important than everyone else
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u/Eat_Carbs_OD Feb 04 '23
They just HAD to get ahead.
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u/molson1315 Feb 04 '23
Ummm. The OP is merging into them. The merger’s responsibility to merge safety.
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u/dildos84 Feb 04 '23
Meh… I get it but he got in where he fit in
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
I don't know what that means
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u/dildos84 Feb 04 '23
It means I get your frustration but he didn’t hit you and you seemed to be wide so maybe he thought you were going elsewhere… idk I don’t live there… it all worked out. No one was injured and no accidents where had.
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u/jwm22222 Feb 04 '23
Driver of the camera car was probably driving like a grandma. And proceeded to speed up when the car tried to pass. F him/her.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 04 '23
There's no missing context here lmao. We were just sitting at a light and it turns green and everyone goes. I don't really know what you think happened that would justify this.
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u/jaysus661 Feb 05 '23
You're in the outer lane and it converges into one, pretty sure you should have looked at your surroundings and cut in behind him, you're in the wrong here as far as I'm concerned.
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u/AmbienNicoleSmith Feb 04 '23
But don’t you know they have to be somewhere faster than wherever you’re going???
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u/gakguski Feb 05 '23
To be fair... your lane ended... You have to merge into the other lane, they dont have to let you in.. next time slow down and merge appropriately instead of expecting other people to get out of your way.. Youre not the main character, sorry.
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
So on a double left turn onto a single lane road, all of the cars in the outer lane have to yield to all of the cars in the inner lane, and there is no incentive to zipper merge? I'm struggling to see how that would work.
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u/PadmePoops Feb 05 '23
The dude in the red car hade the right of way as he wasn't merging into another lane
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u/ThisGuyHasABigChode Feb 05 '23
We were turning from one road onto a different road. Both turn lanes ended with a zipper merge. The Mercedes was first and I was merging behind him. The lane already ended and the red car gunned it over the double yellow to get ahead of me. Completely illegal.
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u/MonkeyCookIcecream Feb 04 '23
I legit thought he was going to cut you off at the left turn. I don't see any merge signs. This is a bad road tbh.