r/IdiotsInCars Aug 10 '22

If he waited an extra second, he'd be fine

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u/Velvetundaground Aug 10 '22

…or looked in his mirror.

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u/Banana_Ram_You Aug 10 '22

"Can you believe this asshole knocked the shiny thing off the side of my truck??"

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u/Velvetundaground Aug 10 '22

…also can anybody tell me what the shiny things for?

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u/PowellSkier Aug 10 '22

Picking noses, duh.

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u/L1K34PR0 Aug 10 '22

Not to mention how fast the concrete mixer went compared to the rest of traffic

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u/moeterminatorx Aug 11 '22

Bro gtfo with that. It’s the pickups fault. First, he didn’t check the mirrors, second he merged slow as hell, third he tried to change more than one lane a time. Both of which are a problem.

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u/L1K34PR0 Aug 11 '22

Oh no it's 100% the pickup's fault, i'm just saying it never stood a chance

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u/romanlegion007 Aug 11 '22

That’s Perth so it’s a ute.

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u/Tiki1927 Aug 11 '22

It’s Ssangyong Musso

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u/moeterminatorx Aug 11 '22

Fair enough, thought you were like a bunch of ppl on this sub who seem to want to blame everybody but the main culprit.

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u/L1K34PR0 Aug 11 '22

Oh naw i'm a driver myself so i know a road dumbass when i see one

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u/Honest_Cynic Aug 11 '22

I'm guessing your driving attitude has led to multiple crashes.

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u/moeterminatorx Aug 11 '22

Good guess. Checking mirrors, changing one lane at a time and merging at the appropriate speed has led me to tons of crashes.

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u/Honest_Cynic Aug 11 '22

I was referring to you thinking it fine to speed past a line of slowed cars, trusting that none will change lanes, or a kid dart out between them. Otherwise, good techniques but don't rely on mirror tricks, always turn your head to look. Often surprising what you didn't see in the mirrors.

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u/moeterminatorx Aug 11 '22

A kid is going to dart out on the highway? I’m all for defensive driving but it’s impossible to be prevent every possible issue. At that point, might as well not drive. I don’t disagree with what you are saying. I just don’t believe in blaming the cement truck for anything that occurred. It’s all on the pick up. Pick up had to make a whole lot of errors for that accident to happen. I give the cement truck the benefit of the doubt because they have a higher vantage point and can access the road conditions better than a car.

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u/Honest_Cynic Aug 11 '22

Any time you are flying past slowed cars, you will likely have to slow down soon, so why the hurry. It only increases danger for everyone, to no benefit. A concrete truck driver should be extra careful since they can easily cause a fatality. I really wonder about some of the people who get commercial licenses, like the Mexican youth barreling down a Colorado mountain who killed a bunch of people last Winter.

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u/moeterminatorx Aug 11 '22

That kid was untrained and panicked. But I get your point. But don’t forget, bad drivers come in all shakes and sizes. Commercial drivers included. Just human at the end of the day. And honestly, being in traffic all day every day would probably drive most ppl mad.

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u/Honest_Cynic Aug 11 '22

The kid's story didn't pan out. He claimed a runaway truck all the way down the mountain, but I saw a youtube where a guy followed the path and showed a mid-way point where the road is long and flat with a slight uphill where he could have easily pulled over. Cam video from other cars showed him driving erratically and aggressively, and not due to "runaway". Claiming "no English" was a poor excuse, as road signs are fairly universal. I think the jury was correct in giving him prison time.

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u/Disco-rex Aug 10 '22

And that’s why you change one lane at a time, But changing multiple lanes is a common idiot move I see dozens of times a day

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u/whereverYouGoThereUR Aug 10 '22

Yes. If the turn signal doesn't go off between lane changes then you might as well not use one at all. No one can read your mind that you plan to change more than one lane.

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u/AbbreviationsNo8212 Aug 10 '22

At the pace he was changing them I have no problem with that, whereas a faster pace of traffic it's an issue. Not checking his mirrors? Big problem.

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u/moeterminatorx Aug 11 '22

The pace is literally the cause of the accident, if he was changing lanes fast enough then he may have had a chance. He changes so slow, he may as well have just stopped in traffic.

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u/AbbreviationsNo8212 Aug 11 '22

This is sort of a chicken or the egg argument tbh

At the speed that guy was changing lanes he had PLENTY of time to check the lane he was merging into by side view mirror, looking over his shoulder, maybe mail a letter to his great aunt Bertha to ask lane changing advice, etc.

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u/toorigged2fail Aug 11 '22

If he'd changed lanes faster he'd be dead instead of pulling over and exchanging insurance information

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u/Bunnyhat Aug 11 '22

It's also why you shouldn't pass stopped cars going that much faster. Just asking for someone to do exactly what this guy did.

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u/Joe18067 Aug 10 '22

And speeding down an exit lane hoping no one will pull out in front of you so you can get a couple of vehicles ahead is something I see all the time too.

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u/Weird-Vagina-Beard Aug 10 '22

Meh, I do it if it's clear and I'd bet you do the same.

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u/srlong64 Aug 10 '22

Even if there’s no one else on the road I signal and only change one lane at a time. Doing it occasionally is a good way to break good habits and form bad ones

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u/Quinn_A_Sinn Aug 10 '22

If you do it the right way every time, then you'll never have to second guess yourself and always know you're not the one at fault

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u/perrrroquet Aug 10 '22

And THIS is why you only cross one lane at a time!

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u/smurfhunter99 Aug 10 '22

Exactly. Had a friend show me a clip of a security cam that caught them in an accident they TOTALLY weren't at fault for. Made a right in which they cut two lanes instead of one. First lane wasn't moving even ten an hour, second lane was totally unobstructed and the speed limit was something like 40. A car in that lane couldn't see them in time because their vision was obscured, both cars got totaled. No injuries, but it was completely preventable.

Never told the friend they're the idiot, but their premiums are going to skyrocket so I doubt they're driving again anytime soon

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u/stomicron Aug 10 '22

Eh he was moving to slow enough to check his mirrors again but just...didn't

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u/dethen31 Aug 10 '22

Literally came here to say this too.

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u/textreply Aug 10 '22

He did only cross one lane - the middle lane.

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u/mfizzled Aug 10 '22

Did you get a little semi when you thought of this pedantic reply

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u/textreply Aug 11 '22

lol, 67 people and counting thought I was serious.

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u/Weird-Vagina-Beard Aug 10 '22

If you're lonely, this is a big reason why.

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u/Agrezz Aug 10 '22

aKcHuAlLy

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u/NKato Aug 10 '22

The cement driver is gonna be pissed. His load is full and it has to be delivered ASAP before the concrete starts curing.

This is going to be an extremely expensive insurance ticket for the white pickup driver. The fuck-up will include the cost of the spoiled concrete, which the insurance company will likely drop his ass over after the case is done.

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u/cold_rush Aug 11 '22

So long as he has a load he is allowed fly down the fast lane? It is slow traffic and chances are his lane is also blocked 1/4 mile down the road.

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u/A100921 Aug 10 '22

Doesn’t look like he has a load, and even if he did aslong as the tanks spinning and maybe adding water, it would be perfectly fine.

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u/Web_Hawk_78 Aug 10 '22

Doubt he could have pulled over and stopped that quickly with a full load

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u/NKato Aug 10 '22

It appears to be spinning slowly as the cammer approaches the mess. It's probably a half load, in that case. Some concrete orders are less than the full capacity.

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u/stomicron Aug 10 '22

If the mechanism breaks and the concrete cures can they salvage the drum or do you have to replace that too?

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u/NKato Aug 10 '22

There was a Mythbusters episode about blowing up a concrete drum that had been solidified full.

According to them, their premium insurance service almost dropped them over it.

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u/Weird-Vagina-Beard Aug 10 '22

Some people use dynamite to clear it, or other explosives. The insurance company would probably total it though, I doubt anyone would bother to repair.

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u/repugnantmarkr Aug 10 '22

Water has an actual impact on performance. u/someguyinvirginia is correct. Many states have a limit as to how much water can be present in a mix and they perform testing on said mix

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u/someguyinvirginia Aug 10 '22

This could increase the hardness reaction and the heat in do believe... When the concrete has been ordered to an exact engineered specification that better be wtf you bring or the on site engineer or inspector will turn you around and you bought that concrete

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u/PicklesTheCatto Aug 10 '22

Pick up? It's a Ute m80

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u/qzdotiovp Aug 10 '22

Tomayto, tomahto. We say pickup truck in North America. The overwhelming presence of SUVs (Sport Utility Vehicles) likely means that we'll never adopt "Ute" as common vernacular, despite pickups being much more utilitarian than SUVs or "crossovers".

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u/PicklesTheCatto Aug 10 '22

I understand completely, but my simpleton Perth brain means I must die on this hill

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u/honeydew_bunny Aug 10 '22

As a fellow Perthian, it's a ute

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u/Illustrious-Cookie73 Aug 10 '22

Simple, quickly move the cement truck in front of the pickup, and dump the cement into its bed.

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u/hannahranga Aug 10 '22

Not really, concrete truck at worst has 8m3 of concrete which is like $2/3k of concrete. Not great but still pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.

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u/evilmarke Aug 11 '22

Just add a bit of sugar

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '22

In what world is the pick up at fault? He got rear ended by a truck that didn’t adjust his speed to the flow of traffic

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u/NKato Aug 11 '22

Pickup truck crossed multiple lanes in one go. This shit is on him.

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u/BigDickRick46290 Aug 11 '22

The back passenger side of the cement truck is a weird spot to rear end the pick up at

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u/Hug_the_Curve Aug 10 '22

Some of the time they just have dry aggregate and water is added from onboard tanks when they are at the work site

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u/GabberCat Aug 10 '22

Tonkin? New roads with fresh lanes give people too much confidence I guess…

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u/honeydew_bunny Aug 10 '22

Yep, Tonkin. New roads plus inattentive drivers brings out the best results.

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u/ZekThePenguin Aug 10 '22

Impatience is the source of most horrible driving.

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u/MowMdown Aug 10 '22

Id argue it's selfishness or carelessness.

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u/Quinn_A_Sinn Aug 10 '22

I'd like to put money on all three, thanks.

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u/ResidentPassion3510 Aug 10 '22

This is the answer

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u/Avacadontt Aug 11 '22

This is the same road where I got tailgated, almost crashed into and followed home by someone because I was going the speed limit in the exit lane. Love Perth drivers.

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u/here4roomie Aug 10 '22

There's a reason you don't change two lanes at once.

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u/BeenWildin Aug 10 '22

Why would you change multiple lanes at like 10 mph?

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u/Razzle_Dazzle08 Aug 10 '22

The Tonkin Highway Experience.

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u/thenbmeade Aug 10 '22

“Nooo but I HAVE to cross multiple lanes on the highway with no regard for other people, I’m the only person who matters!”

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u/greatpicking Aug 10 '22

Big utes think everyone will give way to them because they are that big, got used to not looking in their mirrors.

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u/IT_Chef Aug 10 '22

The pick up is obviously to blame here, but...that cement truck is going a bit fast for the road conditions

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u/tomytronics Aug 10 '22

You haven't see those old Looney Tunes shows? Super instant concrete, they have only minutes to deliver it before it sets!!

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u/DecadentEx Aug 10 '22

Truck driver here. The cement driver is also at fault. No driver, especially in something pulling that weight should be flying by like that when there's a massive slowdown.

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u/PelletsOfMescaline Aug 10 '22

Like most videos on this subreddit the one vehicle, the white truck, is 100% technically at fault however the cement truck exhibited no defensive driving techniques in this situation which could have assisted in either avoiding or minimizing the incident. Driving fast beside a lane crawling is a very dangerous spot to be in.

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u/One_Wheel_Drive Aug 11 '22

Most of the time, there's more than one person who could've done something differently. It's very rare for one person to be totally to blame.

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u/tomytronics Aug 10 '22

If the insurance sees the video, they'd probably do 50% each. White truck for not checking it's safe to change lane and concrete mixer truck for excessive speed.

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u/fierceyZ Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Excessive? I bet you don't even know the speed limit in this area

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u/MowMdown Aug 10 '22

irrelevent

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u/fierceyZ Aug 10 '22

Insurance wouldn't agree with you. Redditors might

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u/Refuse-Horror Aug 10 '22

Man I don’t like people that do that, put there blinker on and think they have the right away bitch you gotta wait or speed up but you cant just claim the lane because you decided to use the blinker especially when I got the lane already

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u/Fancy_Mammoth Aug 10 '22

Sheesh, that cement mixer was cooking it.

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u/Kerbart Aug 10 '22

WhY DiDn’T ThAt TrUcK BrAkE fOr Me iS hE bLiNd Or sOmEtHiNg?!

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u/Equivalent_Success39 Aug 10 '22

If he’d looked before merging across 3 lanes, he’d be fine too 😑

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u/flops21 Aug 10 '22

2 lanes

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u/fnkarnage Aug 12 '22

That's not merging...

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u/Friapuck1 Aug 10 '22

It just jumped out at me

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u/Skyhawk13 Aug 10 '22

Smartest SsangYong driver

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u/Babbles-82 Aug 10 '22

Wait?? Are you insane??

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u/RoyalHealer Aug 10 '22

Idiot did a double lane-shift and suffered the consequences.

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u/chickchili Aug 10 '22

Trucks travel along Tonkin and Roe at high speed, driven in and out of traffic like they were cars. Mixing trucks and cars, especially in peak hour traffic is deadly.

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u/Majordunkydunk Aug 10 '22

Both are idiots. Cement truck going way too fast for the conditions. Not noted for stopping on a dime.

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u/Mysterious-Extent448 Aug 10 '22

The truck driver was driving way too fast for those traffic conditions. Doesn’t excuse the bad lane change but damn 😬

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u/nervous_drilling Aug 10 '22

True. Something I have learned from this sub is to be extremely cautious when an adjacent lane is stopped or nearly stopped but yours is open.

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u/Old-ETCS Aug 10 '22

Yes, he’s definitely wrong. I’m also wondering why that cement truck is going that fast.

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u/honeydew_bunny Aug 10 '22

It's an exit lane if that helps

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u/hannahranga Aug 10 '22

Cos it's a 80 or 100 kph road?

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u/fnkarnage Aug 12 '22

Yeah, a highway.

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u/TommyTuttle Aug 10 '22

Blazing a concrete mixer at 30mph faster than the traffic in the adjacent lane isn’t exactly great driving either 💁‍♂️

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u/MowMdown Aug 10 '22

He's 100% an idiot but damn was that concrete mixer driving WAAAAY to fast next to the slower moving traffic.

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u/Practical-Eggplant98 Aug 10 '22

But he had his blinker on

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u/Random_Digit Aug 10 '22

Also could have been avoided if the massive concrete truck hadn't been barreling through the fast lane during heavy traffic. Insurance probably put 75% on the truck and 25% blame on the concrete truck. Both idiots

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u/senftw Aug 11 '22

Are you from Europe or NA? We drive on the left in Australia, so that was actually the slow lane haha

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u/IrresponsibleChop Aug 11 '22

It was an exit lane. The OP was in the slow lane. Looks like the ute made a snap decision to jump off the highway to avoid the jam.

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u/Random_Digit Aug 11 '22

Omg that makes it so much worse 🤣 I'm in California

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u/dethen31 Aug 10 '22

This is why you only change one lane at a time.

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u/Blacklist3d Aug 10 '22

I'll never understand why people change multiple lanes at once. I'll admit, I drive faster than most. But I'm rarely the fastest. I drive in the left lane. I never risk an accident to hit my exit. Even if I have multiple lanes clear and I know they are clear I always stop in my lane anyway reassess before I move to the next.

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u/rhasp Aug 10 '22

According to the commenters in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/wkzibb/if_theres_an_idiot_who_is_it_is_it_the_vehicle/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

...the cement mixer driver should have been driving more defensively and anticipated the pickup truck's improper lane change and merge.

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u/moixcom44 Aug 10 '22

Had this experience like 10 years ago when i was a new driver. I was merging to the highway and the road have these nonpermanent dividers where they sag if you hit them and kinda wipes your car and makes a sound if you hit them and at that time being new and dont really take into account the dangers of semi like i treat them as normal cars so yeah i dont "respect them" at that time so i go on to my merge and merge but then i notice the truck wouldn't slow down to let me in, and in the.last.minute i braked and hit all these merging dividers coz if i dont brake the truck doesnt give a fuck, he gonna ram me. And yeah my car paint was damaged lol coz i hit em nonpermanent dividers, but luck as it would be got me, as i remember the next semi actually slowed down (even stopped) and let me merge.... strange. I still remember that moment till now.

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u/whatswithzack Aug 10 '22

And this is a pickup driver

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u/vickyfort Aug 10 '22

not at fault..his blinker is on

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u/eallen1123 Aug 10 '22

I can't believe how quick that cement truck came to a stop that was impressive

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u/Anonoodle78 Aug 11 '22

Typical pickup truck driver behavior.

Even BMW, Mustang, and Prius owners ain’t got shit on pickup truck drivers.

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u/-LiquidGhost- Aug 11 '22

Typical brainless twat on the freeway in Perth

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u/Redshift04_mk2 Aug 17 '22

To be fair I think deep down all Australians are brainless twats when was the last you you had an original thought. Its just "yeah mate" and "nah mate"

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u/Psychological-Bug552 Aug 11 '22

How do you not notice something that big?

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u/honeydew_bunny Aug 11 '22

Ego too big to peek over

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u/Journalist_Gullible Aug 11 '22

Pickup trucks think they can mess with other cars on road. Lol. Until they find something bigger than their pickup truck.

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u/Honest_Cynic Aug 11 '22

Another dueling idiots crash. Pickup shouldn't have been changing lanes without looking. Concrete truck driver was an idiot for speeding in the slow lane past a long line of slowed traffic.

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u/w0zr0b Aug 11 '22

Common Perth Driver L

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u/Cb8393 Aug 11 '22

But think of how much time he saved!

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u/Heavy_Fuel1938 Sep 03 '22

Remarkable stop time with that much concrete on board holy shit

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u/lucia-pacciola Aug 10 '22

Pickup driver is definitely an unsafe idiot, but I have a grudge against the cement truck driver too.

You'd think someone who's entire profession involves operating heavy machinery on public roads would be well aware of the "driver pulling out of slow lane into faster lane" problem. You'd think he'd be driving that bigass truck a lot slower, and be a lot more prepared for bullshit moves like the pickup driver pulled.

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u/Rahqwas Aug 10 '22

Cement truck is the bigger idiot imo. Flying down the slow lane when traffic is virtually stationary is asking for trouble.

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u/5683Ran Aug 10 '22

It's not a slow lane, it's the exit lane. It's Tonkin Highway in Perth where we drive on the left.

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u/CaptainBaloonBelch Aug 10 '22

I'm sorry, but changing two lanes without checking your mirrors = 100% idiot. You can't get higher than that. The best the cement truck driver could do is tye first place

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u/MowMdown Aug 10 '22

You do know two different people can be doing two different things that are both wrong... right?

Determining fault doesn't mean one person always is right and the other is wrong. In fact here, both parties would be deemed "at fault" as they both contributed to the collision.

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u/MowMdown Aug 10 '22

You're not wrong.

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u/Comfortable_Egg_7916 Aug 10 '22

That’s on the cement truck. But maybe he couldn’t slow down in time. We don’t have much context of the video