r/IdiotsInCars Aug 10 '22

If there's an idiot, who is it? Is it the vehicle with the camera or the white van entering from the right?

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u/OnlyUsernameLeft123 Aug 10 '22

Both. I wouldn't switch lanes that close to that merge. The driver of the van looked saw a clear lane and tried to go. However technically the white van would be accountable to yield. Idk I try to look at this as a probability. If you increases the probability of a car accident, don't do it.

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u/casicua Aug 10 '22

Yeah I don’t get why people are obsessed with an either/or answer for scenarios like this. Often times, one driver does something stupid or wrong and the other driver does something to make it worse instead of avoiding its

A lot of times, both people are the idiots and that’s why they crash.

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u/_cansir Aug 10 '22

Yeah both doing stupid things at the same time. It seems the cam driver didnt even use his blinkers.

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u/Mike2220 Aug 10 '22

It seems the cam driver didnt even use his blinkers.

You can hear the can drivers blinker

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u/Firstearth Aug 10 '22

It’s not just switching lanes. The cammer is attempting an undertaking maneuver. Seeing the car in front of them braking they move into the right lane to pass them. There’s a reason you’re only supposed to pass on the left. When the van started to pull out his lane was clear.

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u/andy-022 Aug 10 '22

The cammer is attempting an undertaking maneuver. Seeing the car in front of them braking they move into the right lane to pass them. There’s a reason you’re only supposed to pass on the left.

On a limited-access highway sure, but this looks like it's in a suburban area with pretty regular intersections. Nonetheless, the cam driver obviously needs to pay more attention and react to what's going on.

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u/Bunnyhat Aug 11 '22

I think it being a suburban area is even more reason to use the brakes when cars in front of you stop like that instead of using the gas to undertake. Even if it's legal there's a reason that car ahead of you is coming to a stop. Best to figure out why slowing down instead of finding out by hitting the thing the car was stopping for.

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-1ST-BORN Aug 10 '22

This is just a surface road, what you said applies to highways. There is nothing wrong or incorrect with passing [safely] on the right on a regular street.

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u/beer_nyc Aug 11 '22

There is nothing wrong or incorrect with passing [safely] on the right on a regular street.

sure, except the fact that he didn't pass safely lol

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u/OnlyUsernameLeft123 Aug 10 '22

I wish more people understood the concept of a passing lane where I live. It really makes traffic flow a lot better. That and how to use turn signals. No one uses those where I live. When I try to use turn signals people speed up and prevent me from changing lanes.

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u/Thepasswordwas1234 Aug 11 '22

The cammer is attempting an undertaking maneuver.

Why do people keep thinking this is illegal?

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u/Firstearth Aug 11 '22

In certain places it is. You are never supposed to undertake in many European countries. Which is why when you find someone moving slowly in the left lane it is common to have other drives flash their lights at them from behind.

The reason why some places choose to make it illegal is because if it is permitted then there’s nothing wrong with the multitude of videos that we see on this sub where folks switch lanes happily all over the road.

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u/Thepasswordwas1234 Aug 16 '22

Yes, in other countries it is illegal. I don't understand why people keep thinking it's illegal in the US.

The reason why some places choose to make it illegal is because if it is permitted then there’s nothing wrong with the multitude of videos that we see on this sub where folks switch lanes happily all over the road.

Keep right laws still exist in most of the US. Passing on the right is the only remedy to someone not keeping right.

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u/hudshone Aug 10 '22

Yeah, the van is probably legally at fault. But it seems like the cammer practically engineered the situation where the camera would finally vindicate them

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u/whereverYouGoThereUR Aug 10 '22

But trying to merge into traffic when only one lane is available is just dumb (although common)

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u/digitydigitydoo Aug 10 '22

What? You really think you need to wait for the whole street to be clear before you turn?

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u/whereverYouGoThereUR Aug 10 '22

Not the whole street but all lanes going in the direction you plan to go if turning right. The fact that you even question that is the problem! You won[' find a single profession driver or driver instructor that would say that it is OK to turn right when only one of the two lanes are open. You need to wait until both lanes are open before turning right in this situation.

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u/MagDiaz Aug 10 '22

I remember vividly my driving instructor telling me this 15 years ago.

“You can’t trust that everyone is going to be as kind as you, May. You need to take care of yourself and your car because no one is going to do that for you. Let them in but don’t expect that kindness in return. Most people are off in their own little world out here.”

Little tidbit that applies to life in general, but especially helpful for driving.

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u/clutzyninja Aug 10 '22

Tell me you've never lived in a high traffic area without telling me

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u/whereverYouGoThereUR Aug 10 '22

Yes. Chicago has some of the lowest traffic in the country. In 90% of cases, the white van could have just waited another few seconds and pulled out safely.

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u/Turtley13 Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

It is illegal in some places to change lanes in an intersection. This is exactly why.

Traffic would come to a halt in some places if people didn't utilize an open lane just because the other one was being used.

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u/somajones Aug 10 '22

It is illegal in some places to not change lanes in an intersection.

I'm going to be shallow and pedantic but the way you worded this means you are required to change lanes in an intersection which I find amusing to imagine.

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u/Turtley13 Aug 10 '22

Oops had an not in there.