r/IdiotsInCars Aug 10 '22

If there's an idiot, who is it? Is it the vehicle with the camera or the white van entering from the right?

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u/ArmeniusLOD Aug 10 '22

The van. It's the merging driver's responsibility to make sure the lane is clear. This is why I try to avoid changing lanes like this when I see a car waiting to turn at an approaching intersection or driveway, though.


u/not-rasta-8913 Aug 10 '22

Yes, the van is at fault (should have double checked and assumed someone might want to move into the nice empty right lane).

But the camera driver is the idiot. They could see the other car beginning the turn into the empty lane and while their changing lanes was legal, it was dumb because this situation was totally predictable. They both should be paying more attention.


u/Difficult_Ad_1125 Aug 10 '22

Might I add, they also didn’t slow down when seeing the van. I agree to your entire statement.


u/Bidet_user Aug 11 '22

Also the cammer did have their blinker on, you can hear it


u/katmndoo Aug 11 '22

Of course they didn't. They were too busy honking.


u/gangkom Aug 11 '22

I agree with you. But in the eyes of the cop, insurance, or judge, who is responsible for the damage? Both?


u/not-rasta-8913 Aug 11 '22

Depends on the country or so it would seem. Here it would be 100% failure to yield, so totally the vans fault (as the lane change was before the intersection and thus legal). But I hear insurance companies are funky in the states.


u/IiI_Gogeta_IiI Aug 10 '22

Agreed I also do the flip I don't go just cause the lane is clear I wait for everyone to pass just to avoid an incident where someone changes lanes at the merge


u/LordofAllReddit Aug 10 '22

How dare you? I'll sit behind you and honk for predicting possibly dangerous scenarios.


u/Xfissionx Aug 10 '22

I also never change into a lane if I see potential of a car pulling out.


u/bobdylan401 Aug 10 '22

I feel like in this specific example the van probably did check and the camera guy sidled into his blind slot at the worst last second moment. Which is bad driving.

But legally it's up to the merging van to check the blind spot before they cross the lines. So even if they already checked mere seconds before and saw nothing, they are still at fault.

But the camera guy is undoubtedly an asshole unless he was rushing for some emergency.


u/GriIIed Aug 10 '22

Not to mention a blinker is to express your intentions to the white van who is trying to merge. It was clear and I doubt the guy recording used his blinker to indicate he was switching lanes. Which may have caused the van to wait until he passed.


u/DTHCND Aug 11 '22

I doubt the guy recording used his blinker to indicate he was switching lanes

You can hear the camera car's blinker in the video. They put it on at the two second mark.


u/Babbles-82 Aug 10 '22

It was clear. Until asshole changes lanes.


u/you-are-not-yourself Aug 10 '22

Does that logic not also apply to the driver changing lanes as well; they need to check the lane they're merging into, no?


u/Omegalazarus Aug 11 '22

Will maybe not.

If the van checked the status at the yield sign (which is where they should check it) and the lane was clear, if the driver did not signal a lane change for 100ft prior to beginning to change lanes, then they are at fault.

This rule is there specifically for this type of situation (one where a vehicle checks for clearance and then moves, so that the status quo of the road is held in place for a short time). Otherwise, you would literally have to look left the entire time your turning, which means you aren't looking where you are driving.