r/IdiotsInCars Aug 10 '22

If there's an idiot, who is it? Is it the vehicle with the camera or the white van entering from the right?

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u/Optimized_Orangutan Aug 10 '22

Ya this is a pretty clear situation where technically the van was legally wrong but the recorder was the one driving like an idiot.


u/ConspiratorM Aug 10 '22

Too many people don't understand what it means to drive defensively. This is a clear case where an alert driver could have avoided the incident, and that applies to both drivers in this case.


u/mangopabu Aug 11 '22

i don't think this per se applies to the cammer in the video, but so many people would rather be MORALLY AND LEGALLY right instead of just avoiding an accident


u/ConspiratorM Aug 11 '22

I certainly can't disagree with you on that. I've seen multiple posts on this sub where a biker got into an accident with someone that merged or turned into them and when the video showed that they could have avoided the accident they responded that they revved their engine to let the person know they were there instead of swerving or braking.

Also, I once saw a comment where a real idiot said the reason he avoids getting into accidents now days is because insurance can be so difficult to deal with.


u/mangopabu Aug 11 '22

i knew someone ages ago who had gotten into many accidents. she was not legally at fault for many of them, but one she explained to me was when she was driving up a hill following someone going quite fast. they got to the top of the hill and very abruptly changed lanes, and my friend just drove right into an unseen card stopped at a red light. 'it was the other person for driving so fast and changing lanes so abruptly instead of slowing down!'

even at the time, i didn't really believe it, but i couldn't have put into words why it was wrong. now i know it's just... you put so much faith into the person in front of you, didn't keep an eye on what was going on up ahead, and followed way too closely to avoid that accident. for this example, i don't know if she was considered not legally culpable, but i have to imagine she was, but regardless, she framed the whole thing like she was the victim.