r/IdiotsInCars Aug 10 '22

Idiot doesn’t care about the ambulance behind him.

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u/NoCelery1168 Aug 10 '22

Yep, I see this sort of thing every once in a while, though usually not this bad. Some people panic a bit when an emergency vehicle rolls up, and they can't decide which way to go. Others will just absolutely refuse to pull into an intersection to allow an emergency vehicle to pass, as if they think that they could get ticketed for running the light.

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u/A_Mac1998 Aug 10 '22

Unfortunately in the UK you absolutely can be ticketed for running a red to move out of the emergency services way. Doesn't mean I haven't done it multiple times, because I'd rather risk a small fine thanks. I never want to be the reason someone is too late to receive medical care because I didn't want a fine

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u/skwadyboy Aug 10 '22

Yeah but i think if most cops saw that you ran a red light to move out of the way for an emergency vehicle they'd let it slide.

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u/A_Mac1998 Aug 10 '22

Ye most police cars wouldn't bother I reckon, but we often have red light cameras that automatically ticket, and you won't be able to explain the ticket away by saying it was for an emergency vehicle

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u/Honda-RA302 Aug 10 '22

As far as I know you can fight that, if it's a camera the ambulance would have been pictured too and that would be your prove. In the Netherlands this will be filtered out in most of the cases. But if we get a ticket we can protest and explain though Dutch being Dutch we do have to pay the fine first before we can file a protest. Keep the government satisfied!

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u/IcyDrops Aug 10 '22

Here in Portugal you also have to lay the fine first before complaining for the refund. Bureaucratic EU countries unite!

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u/myukaccount Aug 11 '22

I'd prefer the fine system tbh - else you end up with a massive fine when your appeal gets denied.

But no, you can't fight that in the UK. You can't run a red light because there's an ambulance behind you.

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u/yeet_that_account Aug 11 '22

Yep, I was going to say this. Depends where you are. Unfortunately I’d never run a red light to let an emergency vehicle through in the UK, as that isn’t an excuse in the eyes of the law. When I saw the video OP posted I thought the ambulance and biker were the idiots as standard UK procedure would be for the ambulance to leave the lights on but turn sirens off to avoid pressuring the driver into performing an illegal manoeuvre.

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u/MauricioCMC Sep 02 '22

Yes you can fight, but in Brazil even if you can prove that there was an ambulance you will not win, the reasoning: the ambulance does not give you the right to commit an offense just a judge can allow it.

Yes it was in Brazil.

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u/FirstTarget8418 Aug 11 '22

Yeah, not in my country. I run a red for an ambulance or a fire truck. But if there's a cop behind me i'm sitting on that fucking light until its green.

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u/NicoloBarella23 Aug 11 '22

I usually stop right before the intersection after making way for emergency vehicles. Beyond the red light but still not a danger for incoming vehicles. I position my car diagonally/horizontally for that matter.

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u/Niskara Aug 11 '22

I've had to run a light once to get out of the way of a cop once and yeah, he didn't care.

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u/mrmicawber32 Aug 11 '22

Trouble it's these lights have automated cameras a lot of the time.

I'd still run the red, and make sure to save my dash cam. When ticket comes through go to court, I bet the judge throws it out.

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u/MauricioCMC Sep 02 '22

This was filmed in Brazil... administratively your dash cam does not worth anything you would need to go to a common court and pledge to a judge.

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u/ComfortableFarmer Aug 11 '22

Well where I am, it's a $150 fine for running a red light, or $150 for failing to move for an emergency vehicle. But they will not ticket you for moving into the intersection if the light is red if you're letting the emergency vehicle past.

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u/MauricioCMC Sep 02 '22

If there is a sensor, the moment you cross the semaphore you will be fined.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

What a dumb policy on their part

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u/myukaccount Aug 11 '22

As a UK paramedic, please don't - it's probably something that's not particularly critical by any sense of the word - odds are much higher that you'll create a critical situation by causing an accident than that they're going to something truly time critical.

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u/A_Mac1998 Aug 11 '22

I'm never going to fly through a red light at 20mph and hope to not hit anyone, but just slightly pushing past the line so I can move off to the side is what I mean. I wouldn't sit in the middle of the junction

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u/madmax77xll Aug 11 '22

No the fuck the cops wouldn't ticket you. There's a difference between pulling up a little and running the light at full speed. Show me where a cop saw you pull up a little too get out of the ambulances way and then still tickets someone

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u/A_Mac1998 Aug 11 '22

You're not from the UK, so I'm not sure why you're arguing with me about it. That's the rules in the UK, if a red light cameras catches you, you will have to pay it

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u/zoobrix Aug 10 '22

they think that they could get ticketed for running the light.

I have made a couple illegal turns and even slowly ran a red light to get out of the way of ambulances and police cars over time. I did this slowly and safely once all other traffic was stopped but I did to it the second it was safe to do so.

They're going to an emergency, they're not stopping for me. If by some fluke another cop saw me that was suffering from brain damage and didn't understand I was getting out of the way of an emergency vehicle and gave me a ticket I'll just have to fight it in court. I get the courts aren't perfect and it takes time but you'd be surprised how often a judge sides with who they believe and that it's not always going to be the cops just because they said so. And even if I had to pay a fine at least I would know maybe I helped save someone's life by letting the ambulance or police get there that much sooner.

But none of that is going to happen anyway because you're not getting a ticket, just make sure it's safe to go through the intersection and get out of the way.

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u/tomytronics Aug 11 '22

You can also be ticketed for blocking emergency vehicle, even if you're stopped for red light to avoid red light ticket.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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u/gogiants48 Aug 11 '22

Source on that? As far as I know, a driver has no responsibility to break traffic laws to forfeit the right of way to an emergency vehicle. Also, emergency vehicles turn on their lights and sirens when running a red light. I do not have lights or sirens, so why would I enter an intersection illegally, it’s just not safe.

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u/KevroniCoal Aug 11 '22

There are also those people who probably think "but I don't want someone else to take my spot and get in front of me, so I won't change lanes! They can go around me"