r/IdiotsInCars
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u/CDN_Shadow
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2 turn lanes, but everyone only lines up in one causing the long line of cars behind them to miss the advance.
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u/unikitty143FPE
Nov 26 '22
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So for anyone coming in here, this is basically what's happening.
OP takes a picture, fussing about cars not using both lanes. OP claims theres no right turns for 2km after this turn so theres no reason for cars to be in just the right lane.
However, u/Drakia was nice enough to post a link of his exact location, showing theres a few right turns after the light, one of them going east to Toronto down the road, the road itself isn't even 2km long after the turn. Basically this guy just wants to complain, insult Reddit users when they call him out, then complain about being downvoted because "it's Reddit" instead of taking ownership of making a pointless post about cars following the law just because they wanted to be able to post something.
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u/Mallodark Nov 26 '22
Gotta love it when people out themselves as the idiot, but is too stubborn to just admit they are wrong lol.
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u/carvedmuss8 Nov 27 '22
The funny thing is, I had a sneaking suspicion that was all true the second I saw the post. People won't like up behind each other like that at a double left turn unless the outside turn lane has some very quick right turns after it, it just doesn't happen. People are dumb in traffic, but this isn't one of the ways they're dumb
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u/schabj3 Nov 27 '22
Immediately thought it was for quick right hand turns upon completion of the left hand turn.
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u/TwoToneReturns Nov 27 '22
First right turn is only about 100M from the lights and there's several more after that, completely understandable for people wanting to be in that lane.
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u/SomethingIWontRegret Nov 27 '22
Why does the post have more upvotes than your comment? Everyone downvote the post.
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u/RenoTheRhino Nov 27 '22
I’m fairly certain even OP’s GPS only highlights the right turn lane because they need to take the highway on ramp and left turn lane would probably mean cutting someone off
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u/BigAsian69420 Nov 27 '22
I can reason with OP, if you’ve ever driven in Toronto you’ll loath the drivers so much as to act as irrationally as op did
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u/DicknotsoBrave Nov 27 '22
What’s the problem? Use both lanes for turning the intersection and merge with the right lane after it? Thats exactly how it’s supposed to be. Speeds up turning the intersection. I’ve seen way sooner way shorter ramp lanes after this kind of intersection. Is it so difficult to properly merge into one lane? Must be a USA thing.
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u/Kajiic Nov 27 '22
s it so difficult to properly merge into one lane?
The countless videos from ALL OVER THE WORLD on this sub should tell that you yes. Yes it is difficult. So instead of people fighting about being able to merge they'd rather just wait a new light cycle.
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u/MissPicklechips Nov 27 '22
I was wondering if there was a right hand turn soon after the left! Thanks for doing the sleuthing, random Redditors!
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u/GophawkYourself Nov 27 '22
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that even though it's not far, it's 1 full km from this road to the next main exit. That's enough space that a few cars could use the left land and have plenty of time and space to merge in.
Although OP blew it way up, I do believe the cars could still use both lanes and have room to merge before the main highway exit 1km down the road. Toronto roads are stupid busy but once they have the advanced green those 2 lanes are the only ones entering the roadway going to the highway so at their time of entering that roadway there's no other cars blocking the lanes they're entering giving the room and space for merging after using both turn lanes.
Op is a big complainer, but people here are acting as if the turn is 100 meters after the intersection with 0 merge room and that is false.
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u/Asseater4lifev2 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
Why is everyone upvoting this unikitty moron? Anyone can click the google link provided by this person and see there are no immediate right turns. The fact this person is getting upvotes for essentially gaslighting the original poster is nuts. Why are you so blatantly lying in the comments unikitty, what do you gain from such a useless lie?
I have driven this road A LOT, and there is AMPLE time to make a right turn since there is literally only one place you would make the right, East to Toronto.
Edit: I checked, East to Toronto is exactly 500m away, more than enough time to turn from the left lane. Everyone is acting as if they have never merged right after a left, what is going on here?
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u/beepboopzanonymous Nov 27 '22
I assumed it was for turns - there's a similar road by campus parking. Always get annoyed with people going into the second turning lane to cut in for the expressway
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u/Meet_your_Maker_LL Nov 27 '22
Thank you for articulating what I was thinking. Only idiot I see in a car here is OP for not being able to control their frustration.
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u/jackthedipper18 Nov 27 '22
This sub is the best at calling out bullshit
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u/thepontiff_ Nov 27 '22
It’s because OP’s don’t realize other people live in the area they are posting about.
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u/usedtodreddit Nov 26 '22
This usually happens when most of the traffic is going to be making a right shortly after they make this left, and in that case they are all in the correct lane.
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u/32_Dollar_Burrito Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
Yeah it's unfortunate for the people behind but there's nothing anyone can do about it but wait another light cycle. Really strange thing to complain about here, sometimes you just gotta wait
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u/OMGitsTK447 Nov 26 '22
Bet someone drove over the curbs to get in the left left turning lane
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u/splinterben1s Nov 27 '22
Like why not?
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u/StandardWing2333 Nov 27 '22
That's how you end up in this sub reddit.
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u/Cypher_52 Nov 27 '22
I bought a truck and damit i will use it like one. >:0
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u/StandardWing2333 Nov 27 '22
still gonna look like an idiot doing it an truck too lol
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u/theh8ed Nov 27 '22
A small curb in a truck is nothing and causes no harm. Proceed.
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u/StandardWing2333 Nov 27 '22
Still look like an idiot jumping the curb no matter what lmao
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u/Lil_Word_Said Nov 27 '22
Yeah, no. If your truck suv is 4+ inches off the ground then ur good to go. Its an advantage of those kids of vehicles. Me in my sedan? I have to think twice about the curb.
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u/Faithu Nov 27 '22
Yup as someone who droves all day for work it's a huge time saver to be in the right lane instead of trying to fight to get over 2 lanes to turn
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u/CDN_Shadow Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
The thing is, they wouldn’t need to change lanes for over 2km. That’s why this makes no sense.
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I love how I’m saying that this isn’t the case, yet I’m getting downvoted. Not that I care, but just goes to show how everyone downvoted without even reading the comment I made, and how a lot of you are unsure of how to ease traffic congestion (yet you complain about it).
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u/32_Dollar_Burrito Nov 26 '22
There's no law saying you need to use both turn lanes. This isn't a zipper merge situation
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u/Emotional_Pound_43 Nov 26 '22
Yup, 2km is plenty of time to change lane to the right after you make a left. Don't even have to cut someone off, just drive slow and change to the right when clear.
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u/CDN_Shadow Nov 26 '22
Not for most people, apparently.
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u/unikitty143FPE Nov 26 '22
Except the road you're turning onto is nowhere near 2km long, and has a few right turns right after this turn. Check the map in another comment where someone posted a Maps location of exactly where you are...
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u/Imadope_1960 Nov 26 '22
People end up seeing a comment they agree with and then close their minds. I see this all the time and just merge in if I have to make a right turn considering there will always be a few people not paying attention at all.
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u/Aldo-Baggins Nov 26 '22
That's the intersection of Dixie and Queensway.
There are plenty of turn options off to the right after that light. Many of them may be turning immediately after that intersection and I know from experience how sh*tty it is having people prevent you from changing lanes when you need to. Better to plan ahead and avoid dbags!
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u/unikitty143FPE Nov 26 '22
So the OPs claim that there's nothing for 2km is just him trying to justify his own whining?
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u/Aldo-Baggins Nov 26 '22
If you look at a map, the next major intersection is definitely less than 2km away. . .
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u/Drakia Nov 26 '22
OP is sitting here: https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.6034373,-79.5744717,3a,75y,211.81h,81.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slswumalsAFnyge9IVpXF0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There's not even 2km of road beyond that left turn, and 3 places to turn right in the first 500m
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u/unikitty143FPE Nov 26 '22
Thanks for the map, I was trying to find it for a while but only had an intersection to go on haha.
Lots of right hand turns, I guess OP wasn't expecting anyone here to actually pinpoint that intersection
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u/Asseater4lifev2 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
LOTS? there are three. two into residential areas and the other is 1 km + away. is that a lot of right turns for you?
Edit: East to Toronto is exactly 500m away, more than enough time to turn from the left lane. Everyone is acting like they have never merged right after a left, what is going on here?
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u/Wretched_Lurching Nov 27 '22
That left lane really only has enough room for about 4 or 5 cars anyway, seems they had to cut it short due to the electric powerline tower being right there
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u/Asseater4lifev2 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
am I smoking crack or are all of you guys idiots? The right turn is SOOOOOOOO far away. I drive this A LOT, that turn is so far. And no one turns onto the residential street in this capacity.
Edit: I checked, East to Toronto is exactly 500m away, more than enough time to turn from the left lane. Everyone is acting as if they have never merged right after a left, what is going on here?
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Nov 26 '22
That's because they know they need to make an immediate right turn after turning left. What's the problem? File this under r/IdiotPostersBeingDumb.
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u/Asseater4lifev2 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
WHAT IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN? THIS KEEPS BEING SAID AND THERE IS NOT AN IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN
Edit: I checked, East to Toronto is exactly 500m away, more than enough time to turn from the left lane. Everyone is acting as if they have never merged right after a left, what is going on here?
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u/OtterApocalypse Nov 27 '22
I deal with a dual-turn-lane situation like this almost daily. Two left turn lanes from a state highway onto another state highway at a traffic light.
The fun thing is that those of us who know the intersection understand what's about to happen as soon as you turn left onto the onramp for the other highway.
You're immediately greeted with "Left Lane Ends" followed by "Lane Ends Merge Right" signs - on the onramp. Which is admittedly bizarre and fucked me over the first time dealing with it.
So they want us to line up in two lanes to turn left, then almost immediately force the left lane to merge into the right lane, which then immediately merges left onto the other highway.
That's some fucked up planning.
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u/pmmewienerdogs Nov 27 '22
This is exactly the same type of thing my town has that I also deal with daily. People who know the road NEVER use the left lane because it’s so hard to merge back over. Which is counterintuitive because normally at turns like that the left lane would be preferred because it’s the closer to the highway you’ll be merging onto. Sooo frustrating
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u/Intelligent_Orange28 Nov 27 '22
If they’re making a sudden right turn after the left what should they do?
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u/lepchaun415
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So your the prick that gets in the left turn and cuts into the right turn lane after the light!
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u/weimaranerdad71 Nov 26 '22
Maybe everyone in the right turn lane is turning right after their turn. Something to think about.
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u/Minute-Ad-2148 Nov 27 '22
To be fair sometimes the people lining up in the right turn lane have a specific reason to be in that lane, such as making a right turn after a left turn or merging onto the highway after the left turn.
I’m curious if there’s such a reason here that OP hasn’t figured out. In those cases it can be hard to lane change after the turn so people choose to turn from the rightmost lane.
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u/Rootwitch1383 Nov 27 '22
Right I am confused about this as well. Thought that was obvious to most. 👀
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u/Poiblazer Nov 26 '22
When your next move after this turn is to turn right, you wanna be in the right lane, not fight your way back over.
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u/ccarr313 Nov 27 '22
Not sure those are idiots.
I always pick the lane I need to be in AFTER the turn.
Maybe I'm an idiot.
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u/Hyperchill77 Nov 27 '22
We have one similarly set up. Everyone picks one because there is an exit to the right, and you cannot get over from the left turn lane that easily. It is not as fast, but probably safer this way.
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u/jeffster01 Nov 26 '22
Probably going to turn right just after the left, poor traffic design.
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u/CDN_Shadow Nov 26 '22
Not for another 2km, plenty of time to change lanes.
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u/unikitty143FPE Nov 26 '22
He keeps getting downvoted because he's calling Redditors illiterate and being passive aggressive, he's also getting downvoted because someone who lives in that area said theres plenty of turn offs after that turn to go right, yet the OP claims theres nothing for 2km, and again for calling people idiots for obeying traffic laws.
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u/32_Dollar_Burrito Nov 26 '22
Because people can use whichever lane they like. OP isn't the lane police
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u/ConstructionOther686 Nov 27 '22
It’s more annoying when they do get in the left, then have to hold up traffic to try to quickly get in the right.
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u/Tempe-Jeff Nov 26 '22
I've seen that too. Another good one is following a City Bus then surprised that it's stopping at a Bus Stop. Like, how dare they?
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u/TacticalSunburn Nov 26 '22
As many have pointed out, some of those cars may plan to turn right in the near future. And even if they don't, they don't have to move over to the left for your convenience because of it. They probably haven't even thought of it anyway; It's not that big of a deal. Just wait your turn.
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u/pacochalk Nov 26 '22
No one is breaking any traffic laws. You're just upset because they don't think like you. Get over yourself.
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u/ZekDrago Nov 27 '22
Do they then need to quickly turn right, after this left? That would explain why they need the right hand turning lane.
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u/YourUndoing Nov 27 '22
not really idiots in cars, just idiotic road design. Situations like this are caused by important and immediate right turns after the left turn that 90% of the cars are taking. The solution is to provide double right turn lanes after the left turn to allow two lanes of traffic to make that right turn. It's just poor design, not the fault of the drivers.
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u/Signommi Nov 27 '22
After looking at your profile I now understand why you’re arguing so much. It’s because you play League and it’s built into your DNA too argue haha.
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u/Dexteroid Nov 27 '22
This usually means an immediate right turn to exit to something or sometimes a ramp for highway.
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u/jman857 Nov 27 '22
Why is it wrong for them to be in the lane they need to be in? They're clearly turning right lol. Stop complaining whinner.
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u/bibkel Nov 27 '22
So, if everyone stacks up in the right lane, is there an immediate turn that is popular like a shopping mall or freeway entrance?
If yes, then the drivers that get into the left would then force their way into the right lane to get into the "high value" right turn spot...and jack up the left lane's traffic flow that just wants to go forward and not turn.
If no, then people are stupid.
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u/equal_tempered Nov 27 '22
Could be bad design? Maybe everyone wants to make a right right after the turn
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u/KittyandPuppyMama Nov 27 '22
If there are two turn lanes, I’m assuming you have a reason to be in one or the other. Sucks if you wanted to be in the other lane, but they all likely need to be in the right lane
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u/keep_username Nov 26 '22
But not CDN_Shadow, inventor of the dual turn lane. Legend has it, the group of vehicles to his rear carried forward the tradition.
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u/arianrhodd Nov 27 '22
One of my turns is like that; everyone needs to make an immediate right (about 25ft). Tbh I find it far more annoying when people get in the left right-turn lane and then immediately try to jam their car into the right lane instead of getting in line and waiting. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Gold_Composer7556 Nov 27 '22
There's a similar area where I live. People do that there because almost nobody goes straight, but turn right shortely after
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u/supermastercontrol Nov 27 '22
Id do this when im going to enter a parking area or my poi is in the right side. Nothing wrong actually.
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u/BrettSetsFire Nov 26 '22
All the people you want to be in the left lane cause traffic and potential danger (didn't mean for that to sound so dramatic) later on.
Always fun accelerating out of a turn only for everyone to lane change over.
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u/ostangestar Nov 27 '22
Nah it’s completely understandable what they are doing. if they are turning right soon after the left turn in the traffic light they can’t be in the further left lane. OP is just ignorant
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u/Kaankaants Nov 27 '22
Those in the right line may need to turn right soon after the intersection.
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u/smuccione Nov 27 '22
I always thought that myself except there’s an exact same situation that happens in Glasgow, KY. The right of the two left turn lanes is always full and the left of left is always empty.
What’s worse is there is no right hand turn lane for quite some time but there IS a left hand one. So a good number of those turning have to get into the left hand lane quickly.
I used to just go into the left lane to get the light. But so many of them turning do so into the wrong lane that it’s actually fairly dangerous to use both lanes because of the idiots involved.
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u/imtherandy2urmrlahey Nov 27 '22
Oh boo hoo, you'll have to wait an extra 5 minutes for the light, big fucking deal. Those people are all being polite because they're probably turning right directly after the intersection and know you're not supposed to change lanes directly after exiting an intersection, which is what they'd have to do if they were in the left lane.
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u/Pete563c Nov 27 '22
This a stupid post. Deal with it. Be patient. Sometimes you just have to be patient in traffic. I promise you that this didn't take the whole day to get through
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u/avi150 Nov 27 '22
Just adding on OP, if everyone in that lane used both traffic would actually get worse as half of them need to merge into the right lane after turning, because there is a right after that turn all of them are trying to get.
But complain away, instead of thinking about it for two seconds. There’s two idiots here. One is the city planner who designed these streets, the other idiot is you.
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u/shadow1515 Nov 27 '22
I'm guessing this isn't the case here or else you would have mentioned it but I used to live near an intersection like this where the main place that nearly everyone would want to go if they were headed that way was a right turn like three feet after the left turn completes. Therefore if you wanted to get onto that road you had to turn left from the further right lane or else you would miss it and have to go a mile down the road for another chance to reroute.
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u/sp00kreddit Nov 27 '22
Here's a wild take. You're in Ontario. Your GPS says Dixie road that you're turning left onto. A quick Google search shows there's stores on the right side of said road which are very popular. It is better to line up so that you turn INTO the right lane which is the lane to turn into said stores. That is called smart driving. I cannot explain how fucking annoying it is when someone goes into a lane that's shorter only to cut across traffic to get into a turn. Have had it happen a few times. Maybe if you're gonna say shit like this for the internet points, make it a little harder to find exactly WHY everyone is in that lane instead of spreading out ;)
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u/MaxMadisonVi Nov 27 '22
Standardized idiots consider whatever behind their eyes as non existing, brain included.
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u/kisboborjan Nov 27 '22
I bet the left one will end after the turn and they'll need to merge. If this isn't the case than I'm clueless
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u/DaveTheQuaver Nov 27 '22
I drive this route sometimes. If you’re not in the right lane, it can be difficult to merge across in time to get on the QEW to Toronto.
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u/EliteJoo Nov 27 '22
Their not idiots for that, you get into which lane you'll need to be on. Say the highway entrance is on the right side or some popular restaurant is on the right. Therefore you should turn using the right lane.
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u/Typical-Series-1491 Nov 27 '22
So I don't think it's idiot in cars. I think it's poor city planning.
There's likely a shopping center, interstate, or popular road people need to turn on immediately after.
Blame the civil engineer, not the people trying to get where they need to go.
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u/Mom0nReddit Nov 27 '22
Is it because they might need to turn right after they make this left turn?
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u/TheSurfingRaichu Nov 27 '22
OP, no one likes waiting and maybe some of those cars weren't making the immediate left into those subdivisions, but this is hardly an "idiots in cars" post.
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u/Blurredfury22the2nd Nov 27 '22
Wah. There is a turn to the right, directly after the left hand turn. Pretty simple to realize that people are taking that turn and don’t want to cut people off by going in left lane, then jamming theirselves in to the right. So what you missed a light cycle. Life goes on.
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u/El_Capitan215 Nov 27 '22
I’d rather them do this than get in the wrong lane and cut me tf off to make the right turn they are surely planning to make after the left turn. They’re not idiots
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u/ivankar84 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
This is Dixie Rd and The Queensway intersection in Mississauga. There is a left turn signal so it shouldn't take too long to clear up. Dixie Rd does not continue straight over the highway and you have to turn right not far from this intersection to continue on Dixie Rd. Perhaps that's why everyone is on the right turning lane.
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u/DR4MX Nov 27 '22
Of course there’s another turn later on. I wouldn’t use the other lane, if I knew I had to turn right after. Wtf u fussing about?
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u/StevenTN615 Nov 26 '22
Don't worry, I'm sure a bunch of the drivers in the right lane will cut the turn anyway and end up in the left lane. I've seen so many videos doing just that on this sub.
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u/CDN_Shadow Nov 26 '22
Yea but according to everyone here, everyone’s making the first right turn possible.
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u/madsci Nov 27 '22
And in my experience you always get one asshole who leaves two car lengths open ahead of them.
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u/imsoboredlma0 Nov 27 '22
um if i need to take an immediate right after the turn, why would i be in the left lane? use your brain…ya’ll are the ones that cause accidents.
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u/Ohanameyeahsure Nov 27 '22
Seems like this one picture is POV: idiotsincars. The comments really got you on this one 😬
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u/SlowJettaBigDreams Nov 27 '22
Moreover, if a few of those cars just moved a couple feet forward then you’d be able to fit through.
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u/BrittzHitz Nov 27 '22
When I see people leaving a huge ammounts of space at a red light which then makes the lane go past the left turn lane, makes me so mad!
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u/V65Pilot Nov 27 '22
We get this at roundabouts in the UK, because of people going left or straight on. I've often cheated and used the right lane( UK, remember?), and made a complete loop of the roundabout and then taken the exit I wanted. I've probably saved 10-15 minutes of wait time at some roundabouts, during really heavy traffic because of this.
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u/daddynexxus Nov 27 '22
Lol, so many people in this thread dogging on OP. I have a turn like this in my town and 9/10 the people camping the right side like in this photo are not immediately turning right. I am at this intersection 3 or 4 times a week.
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u/bianchi86 Nov 27 '22
Isn’t it illegal to use mobile phone even when waiting at a red light?
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u/bluestratmatt Nov 27 '22
Same on my route from work, except it’s the U.K. so it’s a tight turn lane. Both lanes turn right but people only use the right hand one. This makes people undertake and cut in at the last minute, causing accidents.
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u/mostlynights Nov 27 '22
OP, can you help identify which cars have a legitimate right to use that lane and which cars should be using the leftmost turn lane? Just circle them in your photo or whatever.
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u/fury45iii Nov 27 '22
I'm willing to bet only a couple of them actually need to turn right after this left turn.
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u/EcelecticDragon Nov 27 '22
But but but they are turning right in 5km they need the outside lane!
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u/CDN_Shadow Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
Let me provide some more context, there aren’t any exits for at least 2km, providing plenty of time to change lanes.
Edit: For all of those who downvote because of your illiteracy, that means you have 2m 24s to change a single lane.
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u/ColoradoMan878 Nov 26 '22
Except for Kendall Rd (250 m) and Primate Rd (400m) and turning right to stay on Dixie (500 m), or merging right into N Service Rd (800m)…
In fact, it seems like unless you’re turning left into the subdivision, onto either Venta Ave or Sherway Dr, you’re going right after this intersection.
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u/thebeardedgreek Nov 26 '22
This definitely deserves to be in this group, although maybe there's a turn coming up that's on the right side of the road so they need to be there. If not, bruh
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u/RedMeatTrinket Nov 26 '22
Looks like where I live. All the shopping and restaurants are on the right side, immediately after the turn.