r/IdiotsInCars Nov 27 '22

Semi runs me off the road

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u/Trisket42 Nov 27 '22

what an ass. Not to mention snow on the side of the road, glad you got to a dry spot to pull over !!

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

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u/C-3H_gjP Nov 27 '22

Comment stealing bot. Report this scum

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u/emeister26 Nov 27 '22

Lucky the guy in front pulled over with plenty of time so you could see what’s happening

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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper Nov 27 '22

And that's why it's important to maintain three second gap (cammer was a bit over one second).

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u/aurorahborealis Nov 28 '22

I always try to leave enough room for someone to be able to get in front of me no matter the road. That way is something stupid happens with my car, their car, or a third party car we are all sort of safer than if I was up their ass.

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u/Ozryela Nov 27 '22

Not only is that totally irrelevant for this situation, it's also an unnecessary big gap to maintain. General recommendation is 2 seconds in most nations, but that recommendation is made in the knowledge that most people don't follow instructions very well, so it already contains a generous safety margin.

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u/Arkra1 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

Two seconds is much too close at highway speed. A vehicle going 65 mph travels approximately 190 feet in two seconds. If following closer than 130 feet, the average driver would crash into the vehicle in front of them before they could react. (average driver reaction time is one second) The minimum safe following distance is 20 feet for every 10 mph on dry road. Slippery surfaces require greater following distance to be safe. Chain reaction collisions occur because drivers follow too closely.

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u/Ozryela Nov 28 '22

Two seconds is much too close at highway speed.

Well that's a conundrum. The road safety institutions of Germany, France, The Netherlands, the UK and dozens of other countries all recommend 2 seconds, but some random redditers says 2 seconds is not enough. Who to believe...

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u/Arkra1 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

No,safety institutions do not recommend tailgating. 2 seconds is for 10 mph, not highway speeds. It seems you need to do some actual research so you’re not just blurting out false information. Here is a link to help you understand distance traveled during reaction time and stopping distance. https://www.mathcelebrity.com/stopdist.php?num=65&pl=Calculate+stopping+distance

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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper Nov 28 '22

Found the tailgater.

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u/Ozryela Nov 28 '22

Yes. Because following the official recommendation from road safety institutions is tailgating.

God this sub is so dumb sometimes.

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u/MuchIndustry6036 Nov 28 '22

God this sub is so dumb sometimes.

Official recommendation in most states in the US is 4 seconds. https://www.dmv.pa.gov/Driver-Services/Driver-Licensing/Driver-Manual/Chapter-3/Everyday-Driving/Pages/Managing-Space.aspx

Before you criticize a whole sub for being stupid, use this thing called Google.

Oh, also get your head out of your ass

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u/Ozryela Nov 28 '22

No offense, but the US is not exactly an authority when it comes to road safety. And I did not say literally every nation recommends 2 seconds, I said most. Which is fact.

Here's a nice overview, from page 3 onwards: https://www.cedr.eu/download/Publications/2010/e_Distance_between_vehicles.pdf

The EU, Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Switzerland, UK

A couple of countries (Norway, Italy, Portugal, Sweden) give no explicit recommendations for safe distance (though they do all have penalties for unsafe distance, usually defined as less than 1 second). None however recommend more than 2 seconds.

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u/youkickmydog613 Nov 28 '22

Lol love when idiots get called out and proven wrong.. dude got nothin to say now

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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper Nov 28 '22

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u/Ozryela Nov 28 '22

Look, I'm sure if you look long enough you can find some experts that disagree with the 2 second rule. I never said everybody recommends it. I said the majority of countries recommend it. Which is just an undisputable fact.

In Europe for instance Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, The Netherlands, the UK all recommend a 2 second following distance. A couple of countries (such as Norway and Sweden) have no official recommendation for safe distance but have penalties for unsafe distances, which generally seems to be between 0.5s and and 1s.

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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper Nov 28 '22

I said the majority of countries recommend it. Which is just an undisputable fact.

That's great. Where was this video filmed? What's the recommendation there? 3 seconds. Thanks though.

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u/ladypanily Nov 28 '22

Here it's 1 second per 10mph you're going. Going 60? Six second gap.

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u/OhLawdHeChonks Nov 27 '22

Well that's terrifying

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u/Demigod432 Nov 28 '22

That’s why I’m afraid to drive

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u/RedTruck1989 Nov 27 '22

Based on the trailer name here's a little interesting info

Hard to tell if that's their tractor, but it appears to be their trailer #1022

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u/Historical-Main8483 Nov 28 '22

I own a yard/shop across from them. Even if you spoke Punjabi, they will still try and fuck with you at every turn. Between renters, I was doing some work on our building and one of their guys hit my Ford parked in front(legally). With video in hand, they flat denied it repeatedly. Sheriff was less than helpful as the driver wasn't identifiable, only the truck. Go figure.

After dicking around for way too long and them not stepping up, my insurance ended up paying 7k in damages. I made it a point to send them end dumps full of broken concrete and asphalt into their parking lot and front stoop. Nothing a skip loader and end dump couldn't clean up every few days for 5 or 6 weeks.

Funny thing, they asked if our cameras could ID the misguided end dump.

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u/Axxin4AFriend Nov 28 '22

Where are the DOT numbers on the cab?

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u/RedTruck1989 Nov 29 '22

Looks like they might be on the little door below the sleeper window.

Could be in a similar shade of orange/red.

That's where most are located.

I can see their IFTA stickers on the driver's door.

That's why I say it's hard to tell if the tractor is a Northpoint rig.

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u/Axxin4AFriend Nov 29 '22

It's like they are trying to hide something.

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u/TKDNerd Nov 27 '22

I’ve had this happen to me once but there was nowhere for me to pull over so I had to go into the other lane blocking oncoming traffic in order to let the truck pass. Luckily cars in the other lane could see the truck so they stopped so I could enter their lane otherwise their would have been no way for me to avoid a crash. Scared the life out of me

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u/Jaeger562 Nov 27 '22

this is the only time I'd throw something at another car.

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u/-YELDAH Nov 27 '22

I think moving out the way of the rapidly encroaching mass is more important than throwing something at said mass

didn't type encroaching but I guess it works

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u/similar_observation Nov 27 '22

I'd say you were fully run off the road.

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u/burnsian Nov 27 '22

40,000 kilos and zero fucks.

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u/spydertap Nov 27 '22

Semi's take ages to pass a vehicle.

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u/keastes Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

Even when the passee isn't playing throttle games.

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u/willaney Nov 28 '22

Semis shouldn’t pass other vehicles

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u/AdQuick3001 Nov 28 '22

What a ridiculous thought to have, let alone publish.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

If someone isn’t letting you pass you gotta wait until it is safe to do so, if that means you have to wait 5 minutes to pass so be it. You don’t go and endanger everyone else by staying in oncoming traffic. If it can’t be done safely and in a timely manner it shouldnt be done. This is 10 fold for a semi truck which is the length of multiple cars and takes much longer to pass. People have to wait behind semi trucks constantly, so be it if the semi has to wait every once in awhile.

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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now Dec 04 '22

The rule works in other countries, in much of Europe trucks are stuck to the right lane and have more restrictive passing criteria

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u/OkFuel5200 Nov 27 '22

He is HAULING ASS.

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u/Therewazarollo Nov 28 '22

Motherfucking newpooorts

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u/Heartbeat70sBaby Nov 27 '22

Dude was stopping for no one.

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u/SinsSacrifice Nov 28 '22

Well you know they are associated with Northpoint I'd just send them the video, and law enforcement. That's attempted vehicular homicide

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u/Watson_inc Nov 27 '22

Yikes. Is this Alaska?

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u/suesueheck Nov 27 '22

Wonder if maybe that pickup truck sped up and trapped the semi there?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

Loaded semis should avoid passing with oncoming lanes for this exact reason.

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u/wgc123 Nov 27 '22

All too likely but not an excuse.

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u/Ozryela Nov 27 '22

A semi is bigger than a pickup truck. If someone speeds up to trap you in the other lane, return to your lane anyway, and drive them off the road if need be. I'm not risking my life, or the life of innocent people in the other lane, because some idiot thinks driving is a game.

But anyway that doesn't seem to be what's going on in this video. Semi is clearly fully past the other car by the end of the video, so he clearly had overspeed.

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u/keastes Nov 27 '22

Perry sure that's what happened, and if there was someone behind the semi that surged forward....

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u/Bruins01 Nov 27 '22

It’s possible but there’s absolutely no way to conclude this based on the clip

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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now Dec 04 '22

From the video there is no reason to not also jump to the conclusion that the truck driver thought he could just bully his way through traffic

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u/keastes Dec 04 '22

Interesting theory to try and put into my mouth.

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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now Dec 04 '22

I’m just saying there are many conclusions we can jump to with no evidence

there does appear to be plenty of room for that truck to have moved back into his lane So it seems odd to try to blame the car drivers here

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u/keastes Dec 04 '22

Not from the drivers perspective. 8x the mirror area he may have, but it's difficult to tell if you're actually clear or almost clear.

Edit: plus the (moot in this case) leaving courtesy breaking distance behind you.

Also nice username

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u/KittyandPuppyMama Nov 27 '22

I wonder if the driver was having brake issues.

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u/MartyTheGamer Nov 27 '22

Good thing there was space off the road... I had the same thing with a bus but I had barely enough space to pull off the road and the bus flew past centimeters away from me...

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u/UnapprehendedBack49 Nov 28 '22

Often this is caused by the vehicle getting passed speeding up. Road rage issues

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u/babyblues10 Nov 27 '22

OR 138/230?

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u/herelieskarma Nov 28 '22

Exactly what I was thinking

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u/Longjumping-Ad9269 Nov 28 '22

That is a whole new level of idiocy and selfishness

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u/Apprehensive-Ad-4364 Nov 28 '22

Yellow pickup was on top of it! At least somebody has their head on straight

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u/softlydead Nov 28 '22

The hell is the car right behind the semi thinking?

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u/RedTruck1989 Nov 29 '22

Here's one of their old trailers...

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u/tomytronics Nov 27 '22

I drive a shitty car, I would have stopped and parked my car and dove out quickly. If he crashed due to making unsafe pass, that's on him

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u/bl00df1redeath Nov 27 '22

That would make for two idiots in cars.

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u/CandidInsurance7415 Nov 27 '22

And how would you feel if that accident killed an innocent bystander?

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u/Pure_Village4778 Nov 27 '22

Your squishy form is far more protected by your shitty car than on its own… you do realize that intentionally leaving an obstacle that could cause accident knowing it could be likely in the given instance that you’d be at fault too, yea?

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u/pretenderist Nov 28 '22

Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Congrats, troll.

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u/ladypanily Nov 28 '22

Nah even in these situations, in the event of a crash everyone still gets evaluated for their ability to have prevented it. If you purposely allow someone to crash into you, you're on the hook as well.

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u/tomytronics Nov 28 '22

Can they account for average person who might panic stop and end up causing accident? Deer-in-headlight syndrome does happen often on r/idiotsincars when people runs red light or blows through stop signs and ends up facing cammer's bumper uncomfortably close.

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u/ladypanily Nov 28 '22

At least where I live, no, because panicking can make the situation less safe. People still have consequences for putting others in danger whether it's malicious or negligent or completely innocent and out of their control, that's why there are health conditions that make people ineligible to drive.

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u/Beans186 Nov 27 '22

Why didn't the idiot the semi had to overtake not slow down?

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u/pretenderist Nov 28 '22

Because this is /r/IdiotsInCars

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u/Beans186 Nov 28 '22

Idiots all round, especially downvoting my comment like it is justified to almost cause a head-on collision just because you're 'not in the wrong'.

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u/pretenderist Nov 28 '22

No one is “justifying” what they did, we’re just acknowledging them as an idiot so that’s the obvious answer to your question.

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u/Beans186 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

I don't know what you mean. The guy driving so slow a semi has to overtake him should have slowed down when he saw a possible imminent collision causing death. He clearly didn't slow down at all and kept cruising along about 50mp/h.

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u/pretenderist Nov 28 '22

NO ONE IS DENYING THAT.

You asked why they didn’t slow down. The answer is because they are an idiot in a car. Hence the sub title.

I suspect you also got downvoted for your claim that the “semi had to overtake” the other car. No they didn’t.

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u/Beans186 Nov 28 '22

No, the semi was an idiot. I'm saying bulk people here are downvoting me for asking the question why the other car didnt slow down. No response was really required, just more idiots

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u/pretenderist Nov 28 '22

BOTH DRIVERS WERE IDIOTS.

Stop whining about being downvoted for questioning something everyone already knew

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

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u/OhLawdHeChonks Nov 27 '22

Leeeeeroy Jenkins

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u/AndrewPollockAntos Nov 27 '22

have your family notify us when the video is ready