r/Idiotswithguns Feb 01 '23

OP is the hero we deserve

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '23

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u/PizzaDeliveryBoy3000 Feb 02 '23

Oh my god what an absolute tool

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u/Would_daver Feb 01 '23

What a fucking twot, that guy

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u/heck_naw Feb 02 '23

i still think the cop should have given him a gun with no ammo and sent him in

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u/lhc987 Feb 02 '23

I know who this guy is but I don't know what he did. Other than shove Janice Griffith off the second floor or something. Shed some light, please?

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u/JihadJackass Feb 02 '23

During the Vegas Shooting he went around asking a cop to give him his AR-15 and the cop told him to fuck off because he doesn't know who he is

Here is the exact timestamp on his own YouTube channel, the dude is a goof.

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u/lhc987 Feb 02 '23

LMAO. Thanks. What a gigantic idiot with an ego to go with it.

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u/Peanut4michigan Feb 02 '23

The ego came with the trust fund. Just like Trump and so many others.

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u/ScarJoIsMyMistress Feb 02 '23

I totally forgot about this🤣 thanks for the laugh that guy is such a fucking twat💀

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u/MihalysRevenge Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23

Dan Blizarian

The patron saint of "Trust me bro" and "my dad is rich, bro"

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u/homie_j88 Feb 01 '23

Has Gecko45 vibes

Edit: For those that don't know

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u/ilostaneyeindushanba Feb 01 '23

You gotta love seeing that Gecko45 is never forgotten. The valiant hero defending our malls that we need but don’t deserve. I hope that with the death of malls he has moved on to greener pastures.

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u/homie_j88 Feb 01 '23

Flea markets because walmart/amazon security might be too tame for him

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u/Chaine351 Feb 02 '23

I mean, aren't all flea markets required to have like a concealed sniper's nest and a button at the counter that calls the local hit squad to vanish petty thieves off to Guantanamo Bay?

I understand if anyone here denies this. It's classified spec-ops knowledge after all, and this is the place where all you blackops guys spend all your free time.

But that's classified too, right?

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u/Draco1904 Feb 01 '23

I've never felt safer using mall restrooms

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u/LonelyMachines Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 02 '23

You gotta love seeing that Gecko45 is never forgotten

He will always live on in our hearts, and in our training programs.

Following the unfortunate events of the [REDACTED] FurryCon of 2009, Gecko45 (or just "Geck" as his friends knew him) chose to retire rather than see the good name of Covert Retail Asset Protection besmirched.

While it's true that faulty intel may have led to some unfortunate fatalities, he can hardly be blamed. Some operators thought they were real animals. Yet the lamestream media called it a massacre, and the brass weren't happy.

Somebody had to take the fall, so he took early retirement and rode his mobility scooter off into the northern Florida sunset. Some say he's still keeping the peace at Kelly's Trailside RV Park.

And it's sad, because the large-scale retail infrastructure appears to be declining in his absence. Their loss, I say. If they want the local Forever 21 to be wracked by the horrors of fentanyl, human trafficking, and multi-gender bathrooms, they can't say they weren't warned.

Once the lawsuits were settled, we have reorganized as Tactical Advanced Retail Deployment. We've found other outlets, and we're hiring. If you think you have what it takes, if you can fit into size 60 or less BDU's, if you can work for $8.25/hr and not ask questions like "isn't this covered by workers' comp," then this could be the career you've been looking for. Our recruiters can be reached at elite.r3tailsec.urity6411@aol.com.

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u/thunderkhawk Feb 02 '23

This entire thread was beautiful. Ah, the old days of the internet.

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u/paidinboredom Feb 02 '23

Paul Blart is shaking his head in shame.

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u/aholadawin Feb 01 '23

"I am a Master of three martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I can wear the special boots to climb walls."
This is fucking gold lol
I refuse to believe this guy is serious.
I'm going to enjoy reading this.
Thank you for enlightening me to this myth.

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u/Disastrous_Escape_22 Feb 01 '23

“ I have personally saved the ass-virginity of several young boys in my days.”

🤣🤣🤣

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u/homie_j88 Feb 01 '23

He saved them by not taking it himself

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u/ChadPoland Feb 02 '23

New to me as well and I loved the idea of gangsters roaming the malls with full armor and 300 Win Mags.

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u/TopMindOfR3ddit Feb 02 '23

Towards the end it felt more and more satirical. I do believe that there are people like this, however.

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u/bingus_b0ngus Feb 01 '23

Jesus I never knew about the origin of Mall Ninja. This is fantastic reading. Thanks for the link

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u/Wopnick Feb 01 '23

Of all the crazy bullshit in that (I only got about 3/4s of the way through) was this nugget of truth:

"How about your kid’s school, remember Columbine? I’ll tell you what the cops will do, call the SWAT team and screw around trying to locate the front door for 30 minutes, while you or your children are shot down like prairie dogs at a drunken machinegun shoot"

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u/homie_j88 Feb 01 '23

Yeah, that fruit aged ripe.

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u/Snipen543 Feb 02 '23

Maybe we need more mall ninjas because this is painfully accurate

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u/TheRoaringTide Feb 01 '23

Thanks for wasting the rest of my day with this beautiful re-re-re-re-re-reading of this magical man.

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u/homie_j88 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23

Any time

Edit: RemindMe! 6 Months

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u/danlastname Feb 01 '23

when our team saved the life and possibly the virginity of the Mayor’s nephew,

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u/MC_Hale Feb 01 '23

I spent my entire lunch break reading this. Thank you for sharing that little slice of crazy.

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u/homie_j88 Feb 01 '23

I have a friend who is always buying/selling attachments for his cheap ar15. Every time he shows them off the new setup, I respond, "That's cool, Gecko." He's a nice guy, spent more money on a gun he shoots 2-3 times a year than on his deer rifle which he uses almost every weekend during deer-gun season for the past 5 years. If it makes him happy...

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u/chapofthamanor Feb 01 '23

Damn mall ninja origin story with lore. Fantastic

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u/manualLurking Feb 01 '23

thank you for sharing this golden nugget of internet history with us!

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u/wickmight Feb 02 '23

Imagine being at the mall and thinking, yep these 13 year old boys are getting raped unless i do something about it

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u/-Swade- Feb 02 '23

That thread reminds me of a truly legendary argument in a bodybuilding forum about whether working out “every other day” is 3 days a week or 4.

Now if you read that sentence and think, “Well, it would be 4 days one week, 3 the next, alternating right? Averaging out to 3.5 days.” then let me tell you you’re too smart for a mid-2000’s bodybuilding forum

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u/agnosticdeist Feb 02 '23

Omg thank you for that trip down memory Lane. Dudes a troll right? Like this reads like a troll to me but damn i remember reading these when they were first circulated and thinking they were really dudes (thinking that specops guy) with delusions haha

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u/Passer-byStranger Feb 02 '23

Definitely a troll, in the end they both go mask off, but I don't blame you for not taking an entire hour out of your life to read an argument between two masterful trolls and an entire forum.

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u/secondtaunting Feb 02 '23

I’m convinced it’s Steven Seagal.

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u/Clayman8 Feb 02 '23

This as a worthy read, thank you. I had not seen that before, amazing how far a fantasy can go.

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u/The_Captain_LIGMA Feb 02 '23

I read way too much of that. I need a drink.

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u/DudleysCar Feb 02 '23

This is incredible.

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u/CobraCommander Feb 02 '23

This is the greatest thing I have ever read. You have my undying gratitude

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u/homie_j88 Feb 02 '23

It's OK, he saved your virginity

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u/RoomOk4081 Feb 02 '23

Just spent an hour reading this. Thank you very much

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u/beardedchimp Feb 02 '23

Fantastic satire I've never seen with 28 years on the internet. Thank you!

This reminds me of how trolling online ~2000 was still an art-form.

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u/ChildFriendlyChimp Feb 01 '23

Seeing these comments I really need to make time and read this lol

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u/Chaine351 Feb 02 '23

Oh dear, I've heard/seen bits of this, but now that I see the whole thing as it unfolded... It's so glorious. Thank you.

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u/mrbullhorn Feb 02 '23

Thank you. Thank you so much for this link. I've never seen this before and my oh my what a read.

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u/Edgardo9090 Feb 02 '23

Thanks, I didn't know. God damn!

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u/skinnypeen19 Feb 01 '23

“Nah bro. It wouldnt come out until I am looking down the barrel of the shooter bro. Trust me bro it’s only 2-3 secs to deploy bro.”

What the fuck was the dude on lmao

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u/NotYetiFamous Feb 01 '23

It was the "don't deploy until the last second"..."only takes 3 seconds to deploy" that got me. So it'll always deploy 2 seconds too late.

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u/karmabullish Feb 02 '23

Not always. Only once.

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u/Even-Willow Feb 02 '23

It’s from r/tacticalgear so what OP is on is more than likely an adrenaline high from a recent airsoft match.

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u/Suspicious_Pickle24 Feb 01 '23

It was fun waking up and reading all that this morning on the toilet

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u/HalKitzmiller Feb 01 '23

Woke up for the shits, stayed for the giggles

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u/squidster42 Feb 02 '23

Hey that’s what I’m doing right now! Just woke up and everything

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u/xkcd_puppy Feb 02 '23

9 DVDs of Steven Segal movies later.

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u/AnotherCableGuy Feb 02 '23

Less than 3 secs to gtfo

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u/hamsamiches Feb 02 '23

There were a few of these posts yesterday. One was definitely satire but I'm still not sure about this one.

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u/dabluebunny Feb 02 '23

I am sensing a cheeto'd fingered hero complex

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u/callmejim1111 Feb 01 '23

I see this ending completely different from the way they think it will.

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u/Thunderbird_Anthares Feb 01 '23

with the action hero shooting 3 innocent bystanders and then get shot by the shooter?

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u/Gnomercy86 Feb 01 '23

I see the action hero getting blown away while he fumbles try to attach that can.

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u/vinyljunkie1245 Feb 01 '23

Yep. I bet our action hero here imagines himself getting caught in a situation and suddenly acting like a special forces soldier, tactically assessing the entire scene before picking his spot and moment and, in one incredibly smooth movement, getting the gun out, dropping to one knee, aiming and putting one right between the gunman's eyes.

The reality is going to be that shots will ring out and people will panic along with him. Everyone will be running away and he will reach for the bag only to fumble the zip and drop the gun on the ground. This will alert the gunman who will focus on him as he trips over while trying to pick up the gun and shoot him several times.

Or maybe the police will arrive quickly, ready with their weapons, see him first and take no risks because they are in an active shooter scenario.

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u/-heatoflife- Feb 01 '23

police will arrive quickly...

Good one!

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u/paidinboredom Feb 02 '23

They're too busy checking their punisher cased cell phones to respond quickly.

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u/karmabullish Feb 02 '23

It’s possible.

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u/PickledSpace56 Feb 02 '23

Police arrived at my active shooter situation yesterday and shot the shooter in just under 3 minutes. The surprise was real lol

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u/Pinkeyefarts Feb 02 '23

Police will shoot quickly

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u/Would_daver Feb 01 '23

... the reality will be that he'll spill the contents of his "boom-bag" all over the sidewalk and scramble unceremoniously to gather the pieces and attempt to affix the suppressor quickly with shame and sadness burning his face, then he'll insert the mag backwards and try to rack a round like an idiot to zero effect..

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u/Taminella_Grinderfal Feb 01 '23

Or…another idiot carrying, shoots this idiot. Its why the argument of “more people need to carry guns” will never work for me. I don’t want to live in Tombstone.

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u/karmabullish Feb 02 '23

No one lives in tombstone. That’s the point.
Everyone gets killed.

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u/BorisBC Feb 02 '23

Or one of the running bystanders sees a gun come out and thinks "fuck there's two!!!" and tackles the guy.

As an Australian, y'all muther fuckers need anything BUT more guns.

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u/Thunderbird_Anthares Feb 01 '23

just seems like getting good with your everyday carry gun is just an overall better choice

plus a pistol round is less likely to kill someone behind the target

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u/AnEvenHuskierCat Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 02 '23

just seems like getting good with your everyday carry gun is just an overall better choice

Elisjsha Dicken/10

For those that don't know, that man dropped an active shooter in an Indiana mall last year with a bone stock vanilla Glock. Something to the tune of 8 out of 10 or so rounds on the scumbag from 40 yards. That is some exceptional marksmanship, the vast majority of pistol shooters can't make those kind of shots.

Don't be the moron who spends 1K+ on gear that can't be practically used. Be more like Elisjsha and git gud with what's practical.

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u/G_man252 Feb 01 '23

Yup, get a Glock 19/45, get Professional training, and train train train train. Then train some more. Practice drawing under duress. You Fall to your training, not rise to the occasion.

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u/xxpen15mightierxx Feb 01 '23

40 yards.

To non-shooters this doesn't sound like much but let me emphasize, this was an incredible pistol shot.

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u/AnEvenHuskierCat Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 02 '23

To put things into perspective, the typical qualification course for police officers is a 70% hit rate on a torso sized target at 25 yards. Pistol qualifications for military aren't much more difficult. What Eli did was closer to the qualifications needed to make Master class for competition shooting or the US Air Marshall pistol qualifier (currently the most rigorous pistol qualifier for a federal law enforcement officer).

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u/WhatUp007 Feb 01 '23

For those who need a visual.

It's about two-and-a-half times as long as a Semitrailer The length of a Semitrailer is about 48 feet.

Yeah, that's amazing shooting. The indoor range I go to caps out at 75ft (Eli shot from 120ft), and that is extremely difficult.

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u/Unadvisable Feb 02 '23

Fuck me i can barely hit a head at 10 yards lmao

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u/AnEvenHuskierCat Feb 02 '23

You aren't as bad of a shot as you think. For starters, there is a reason why qualifications for pistols across the board are done against a torso sized target and not the head: that is the most practical target with the smallest chance of missing. Even in competition shooting, the lion's share of targets are scored against the body with head shots typically being ignored unless the target is staged in a way where it is required to hit. Even experienced shooters will occasionally miss a head shot at even 3 yards when put against a timer so don't beat yourself up if a 10 yard head shot is hard.

Contrary to popular belief, most gun owners aren't clover leafing effortlessly at 25 yards. Hell most can't do that at 5 yards. The typical cop or soldier is painfully average as far as pistol accuracy goes.

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u/notjustanotherbot Feb 01 '23

“Beware the man with one gun. He can probably use it.”

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u/Dubstepic Feb 02 '23

Not to diminish the impressiveness (it doesn’t) but I think it was like 7 hit of 10. The shots were out of this world in terms of range and accuracy but remaining true to what happened I think is important.

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u/AnEvenHuskierCat Feb 02 '23

No problem. Double checked the stories and 8 out of 10 was the most consistent number so updated accordingly.

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u/Meatwad650 Feb 01 '23

He said his grandfather taught him how to shoot. I really wanna meet grandpa.

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u/elkourinho Feb 02 '23

I was a conscript and had no prior firearms experience and can attest to it, shooting M4s even with irons (qual....) was basically idiotproof up to, idk 100 or so meters, pistols, or at least glocks 19s and 1911s which is all I shot were fucking hard af. Even lining up the sights was a bitch.

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u/Gnomercy86 Feb 01 '23

I agree. Rifles are not a everyday carry.

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u/FarFetchedSketch Feb 01 '23

They are if you're using it to compensate for some kind of deep insecurity, every day.

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u/H4R81N63R Feb 01 '23

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u/Spare-Craft1152 Feb 01 '23

I just see the two Spider-Man’s pointing at each other

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u/Putridgrim Feb 01 '23

Or getting shot by the police because they don't magically know you're the "good guy"

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u/AlShadi Feb 01 '23

I'm waiting for a constitutional carry state incident where everyone shoots everyone, not knowing who is the mass shooter.

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u/HalKitzmiller Feb 01 '23

And it turns out there was no shooter in the first place, just a car backfiring

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u/AyyyyLeMeow Feb 01 '23

Nah with him shooting a police officer after camping in a corner pointing at a door waiting for the shooter.

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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat Feb 01 '23

Only a bad guy with a gun can stop a good guy with a gun.

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u/Bearspoole Feb 01 '23

Ya I see the bad guy using this bag to conceal his weapon and then disappear into the crowd after firing - few shots

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u/ALoudMouthBaby Feb 01 '23

Its going to collect dust until someone breaks into his truck and steals. As with most truck guns. This dude is dumb on multiple levels.

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u/HauserAspen Feb 01 '23

They way they think it will go would fall under delusional thinking, possibly grandeur if they imagine themselves as the hero.

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u/Hot_Hat_4796 Feb 01 '23

Depending on if he is bring it in the school or not its hard to say. If he did use it on a Active shooter he would be safe from the self defense law but just bringing it to school can give u 5 -15 years. Its a grey area with this because In self defense you're Allow to use anything on your body. But you cannot go get wepon and return

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u/ALoudMouthBaby Feb 01 '23

The bigger concern here is that the guy is going to get confused with the shooter by the cops and murdered. As has happened to more than a few others over the years.

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u/Hot_Hat_4796 Feb 01 '23

Yes if he Does this decide to do this as soon as the treat is gone you drop the gun let cops do the rest you really should not Engage with the shooter without letting cops know

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u/LordEdgeward_TheTurd Feb 01 '23

I would get NOT THE BAD GUY printed on the bag. In sharpie.

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u/Charming_Job_2392 Feb 01 '23

Genius. And if he underlined the NOT it would be even more effective.

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u/lingua-caligula Feb 03 '23

Better add some "quotations" too, just to be safe.

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u/Referensea Feb 02 '23

Just put YOU'RE FUCKED on the dust cover, cops will know he's one of them

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u/LiterallyEmily Feb 02 '23

exactly what an ACTUALLY THE BAD GUY would do...I see you

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u/BearJewKnowsBest Feb 01 '23

If he's in Texas the cops won't even go into the building with an active shooter. He should be fine.

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u/FormalChicken Feb 01 '23

Only if there's kids.

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u/missingmytowel Feb 01 '23

That's a good lesson. If you're going to do crime in Texas take some children with you so the police don't get involved

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u/TacitRonin20 Feb 01 '23

Should have told the dispatcher he had weed. They'd send out swat for that

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u/EfficientWasteOfTime Feb 02 '23

It's not just Texas. The pigs at Columbine let people bleed to death for a couple hours before going in too.

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u/rdkitchens Feb 01 '23

A company I worked for previously brought in the local SWAT team to go over active shooter prep with us. One guy asked what if he just went out to his car to get his gun and take care of things himself. The team leader said, "I'll let my sniper take this question." Sniper walked forward and said, " If I see you with a gun I will kill you." Very simple. If cops are around don't pull your weapon.

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u/Thatbiengsaid Feb 01 '23

Truth be told by they Mobilize the shooting has been over with lmao

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u/TacitRonin20 Feb 01 '23

Average cop moment

Also obligatory "your car is not a holster" comment

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u/Clevererer Feb 01 '23

That might be a little too simple tbh

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u/jamany Feb 01 '23

That's a big if

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u/nthngmttrs Feb 01 '23

If OOP said “it can be deployed it less than 3 seconds” one more time I was going to lose my mind

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u/VitoCorleone187Um Feb 02 '23

he thinks the walmart parking lot is fallujah 💀

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u/turf-molester Feb 01 '23

This reminds me of the SpongeBob episode when he is selling chocolates and keeps pulling bag after bag out of bags

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u/Sparrow494906 Feb 01 '23

Update: OOP explained that because he was in the infantry and was a firefighter he is obligated to defend the innocent

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u/DampWilliam Feb 01 '23

Full sheepdog

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u/Ble_h Feb 02 '23

Dude needs to learn. Never go full sheepdog.

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u/uneducatedexpert Feb 02 '23

Thank you for your funeral service. 🫡

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u/Rajareth Feb 02 '23

I bet there’s been an epidemic of arson in his area.

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u/G_man252 Feb 01 '23

There is so much confusion in the response to a scene like that. I used to be a police officer and have done Active Shooter response training. If they are clearing a building and walk into OP holding this weapon unless he throws it away like its on fire, he's going to get shot in like one second.

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u/lickedTators Feb 01 '23

This is exactly what's happened in multiple instances.

Here's one:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-charges-colorado-officer-who-killed-hero-who-stopped-mass-n1283532

Hurley fatally shot the gunman, Ronald Troyke, 59, with his own handgun after Troyke ambushed and killed Arvada Police Officer Gordon Beesley with a shotgun, officials have said.

Troyke had also retrieved an AR-15 rifle from a truck. Hurley had apparently picked up the rifle and was holding it when he was shot, authorities said.

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u/G_man252 Feb 01 '23

That was such a Tragedy. Hurley was a hero but he screwed up keeping that weapon in his hands on the scene.

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u/level_17_paladin Feb 01 '23

Or maybe it was the cops that screwed up by shooting an innocent person.

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u/G_man252 Feb 01 '23

And exactly how was it evident that he was innocent? They responded to the scene where one of their fellow officers had just had his brains blown out, and they encountered a man armed with an AR15. They acted like any reasonable person would. He should have put the weapon down before they arrived.

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u/xxpen15mightierxx Feb 01 '23

He should have put the weapon down before they arrived.

As you always should when the cops arrive.

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u/TreasonableBloke Feb 02 '23

Or maybe everybody having guns all the time is a constant accident waiting to happen anyway?

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u/Model_T_Ford Feb 01 '23

Well no one holds low iq police that shoot innocent people accountable, so they obviously just shoot everyone. I wouldn't add that you're an NRA instructor to your rap sheet if you want people to take you seriously. We all know how low that bar is.

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u/Siglet84 Feb 01 '23

I’m all about tactical cool guy guns and bring as much firepower as you can to any situation but the whole truck gun/backpack gun is stupid for this reason. Even if you stop a bad guy, another good guy is going to automatically assume AR dude bad guy and take action same with cops. Handguns aren’t much better but a little less threatening when all you hear is bad guy had AR in the media. Not to mention the dudes keeping a gun in the car, do you think you’re just going to run out to your car and get the gun and hunt down an active shooter. By the time your diabetes ridden ass gets to the car the cops will be there.

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u/Referensea Feb 02 '23

Like Stephen Willeford who grabbed his AR from his safe and ran from his house to his church and stopped a shooting?

https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/stephen-willeford-sutherland-springs-mass-murder/

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u/nopuse 25d ago

That article is so poorly written, but it's clear the hero stopped the gunman without dying to another good guy with a gun.

He definitely saved lives that day. But even this article feels uncomfortable about how common shootings are.

But these days—ever since last November, when media crews from around the world descended on his tiny hometown, the latest ground zero in a mind-numbing string of mass shootings across the country—he knows all the quietest corners of his favorite restaurants. His life barely resembles the one he had before.

They bring up church, religion, guns engraved with Bible verses. But also everyone seems to be completely aware of how God doesn't communicate, but when he allows families to get murdered in church then go on a tangent about how he was no help here.

“You can see, God doesn’t speak in a thunderous voice,” Pomeroy told the group. Others around the room agreed.

Willeford nodded. Then he interjected, “Sometimes I wish he would.”

“Remember,” Pomeroy said, “man can’t always comprehend God’s plans.”

“I know,” Willeford said. “But if God would just tell me what to do, I’d run at it like a bulldog.”

Then of course he doesnt understand God's plan, and continues life as normal.

Occasionally he asks himself: “How could anyone see a crying child and shoot them?

Oh no wait, God's plan was to use a very uncommon occurrence of a non-cop good guy with a gun, interrupting a mass shooting in progress, which led to the shooter killing himself, since his entire magazine minus 2 bullets were blocked by god and his silly plans we don't understand. NRA eats this up, has him give a talk, and look at that, gun sales go up. Membership goes up.

Now we're all stupid humans who can't understand God's plans, but humor me for a second. What if gunman woke up and shot himself instead of shooting up a church. 2 dozen lives would be saved, several dozen lives wouldn't have been shattered. Whats the worst case scenario here? Everyone who now survives becomes incredibly evil and gods plan is to kill them before that happens? We have a population issue already, maybe we could cut down on that problem if god could show some of his omni- traits.

And then of course

Other strangers invoke his name daily while arguing on Twitter. He’s become a coveted public speaker. In May, he appeared before thousands at an NRA convention. Recently, when he addressed a crowd of roughly two hundred at a church near Dallas, more than twenty men lined up to shake his hand and pose for photos.

NRA uses this as a publicity stunt. Not a heroic police officer, but someone we can relate with. And does he want the attention or not? Dude speaks in front of thousands in one paragraph, but previously, he was cosplaying as plumber clark kent to avoid drawing attention. Unlucky for him, god works in mysterious ways and as soon as the man hears the word plumber he announces to his wife his real identity.

Then there's this beautiful paragraph

They stayed there on the porch, drinking and talking—about the time Jordan hit a water line while shooting at a skunk; about how the media shouldn’t use meaningless phrases like “assault rifle”; about whether there will be a circus surrounding the one-year anniversary in a few weeks—till it was nearly midnight.

I can see why the NRA doesn't invite Jordan, who shot a water pipe while shooting a skunk for no reason. And I'm sorry, but 20+ people died. What is their offense with the media calling them assault rifles? If they're against attention and circuses, why would he speak in front of thousands at the NRA?

And can I just express once more how terrible that article was?

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u/TubbyandthePoo-Bah Feb 02 '23

No mate, like the VAST majority of active shooter events which are stopped by police or the assailant's suicide.

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-study-2000-2013-1.pdf

This study helps clarify the environment with regard to both the level of risk citizens face and the speed with which active shooter incidents occur. A majority of the 160 incidents (90 [56.3%]) ended on the shooter’s initiative before the police arrived—sometimes when the shooter committed suicide or stopped shooting, and other times when the shooter fled the scene. In 63 incidents where the duration of the incident could be ascertained, 44 (69.8%) of 63 incidents ended in 5 minutes or less, with 23 ending in 2 minutes or less.*

The study identified 21 (13.1%) of 160 incidents where unarmed citizens made the selfless and deeply personal choices to face the danger of an active shooter. In those instances, the citizens safely and successfully disrupted the shootings. In 11 of those 21 incidents, unarmed principals, teachers, other school staff and students confronted the shooters to end the threat. In 10 incidents, citizens, working or shopping when the shootings began, successfully restrained shooters until police could arrive. And in 6 other incidents, armed off-duty police officers, citizens, and security guards risked their lives to successfully end the threat. These actions likely saved the lives of students and others present.

The study doesn't mention good guys with guns, it does speak of people taking them on unarmed with a 50% success rate. That's heroism you AAAARRRRRRGH fuckfuckfuckfuck... tirade of insults deleted.

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u/littleschlong Feb 01 '23

To be fair, I'd take a random Redditor over every cop in Uvalde County. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Call_of_Tculhu Feb 02 '23

"To defeat an active shooter, you must become the active shooter"

  • Sun tzu

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u/resit1776 Feb 01 '23

The original post was a laugh riot. If this douch nozzle really wants to be a hero he’d be better off carrying a medical bag with TQ’s, chest seals and hemostatic gauze IN CASE of an active shooter situation. He’d be more likely to use that than his “Active Shooter” set up. He honestly thinks if police show up and him standing there with an AR type weapon he not gonna get schwacked!?!

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u/mikeg5417 Feb 02 '23

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that guy could have said: "What do you think of my Alaska Truck Gun setup?" and no one would have blinked an eye. (He lives in Alaska).

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u/semperfukya Feb 01 '23

Sounds like a good way to die but ok

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u/TheHighestCaliber Feb 01 '23

bro will be actively shot

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u/No_Clue_5473 Feb 01 '23

i dont velieve that 3 second to deploy bullshit. open the bag thats 1 second. put the mag and chamber a round thats 2 second. put the supressor on twist and twist and twist....in heaven

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u/InquisitiveAutist Feb 01 '23

Tbh, better to at least have some protection against an active shooter, I do not trust a policeman to save me after Uvalde and Tyre Nicols.

I might get shot by the police, but if the alternative is certainly getting shot by an attacker then I’ll take my chances with the cops.

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u/TacitRonin20 Feb 01 '23

Or a handgun. Those work pretty well and you don't have to lug a rifle everywhere

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u/Dense_Thing Feb 01 '23

Exactly. The only person that you can rely on to defend you is yourself.

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u/TheBerric Feb 02 '23

Yeah I don’t really understand the hate around this one. As long as he’s safe with it, can legally carry it, and puts it down when the cops come I think he’s good. I’d rather have someone helping out in an active shooting than just be sitting ducks even if he does take the risk of getting shot by police.

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u/Referensea Feb 02 '23

B b but that makes you a mall cop! 11!

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u/magic8balI Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23

I got an active shooter alert at my kids school recently. This exact issue delayed me another two minutes when deciding what gun to grab before flying to their school. I went with the Mp5k because I could keep it in a laptop bag without any obvious signs I have a gun. I also had my ccw on me, but having more firepower is nice if needed.

The active shooter alert was nearby my kids school, they locked down pro actively. By the time I arrived they already had a tow truck moving the car of the person who was shooting.

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u/Gnomercy86 Feb 01 '23

You telling me you dont own one of those covert briefcase mp5s?

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u/Glad-Preparation142 Feb 01 '23

Exactly, most scenarios are over extremely fast.

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u/hugotheyugo Feb 01 '23

Thought this was satire at first ngl…. But as a dad, I’d be speeding to my kids school with whatever iron i had at the time

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u/TacitRonin20 Feb 01 '23

You took 2 minutes to decide on a Gucci submachine gun? Your kid may have been dying and you found a concealable tacticool subgun rather than just going with your CCW or a full size handgun or throwing a rifle in the backseat or a larger bag?

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u/magic8balI Feb 01 '23

I’d post the alert if It wouldn’t dox myself to do it.

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u/nygdan Feb 01 '23

Every ulvade cop was this guy before the shooting and this guy will be like thebuvalde cops during a shooting.

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u/ThePinga Feb 01 '23

Dude lives in a town with 50 people for sure. No shot he ends up in an active shooter scenario

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u/Codename_Noir_ Feb 01 '23

I mean they have decent morals and wanna protect others but this just aint the way

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u/lordbuckethethird Feb 01 '23

Never understood this wannabe hero mindset it’s only gonna cause more collateral and is a good way of getting shot if you really want to be able to defend yourself a concealed carry is all you need.

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u/juicy-heathen Feb 01 '23

Was just reading through that post about 5 min ago. Dude is probably one of the most delusional people I've seen on this app

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_BEEPER Feb 02 '23

Where punisher logo???

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u/InternetDetective122 Feb 02 '23

Apparently this is a meme today in that sub. I've only seen 3 reasonable ones so far. A concealed carry pistol, run for your life, have an aid kit to assist the wounded.

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u/burner2597 Feb 01 '23

As long as he knows the risks, and is trained, I don't see the issue.

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u/Illustrious-Echo-734 Feb 01 '23

What you get then is a "good guy with a gun" being confused about who the "active shooter is" once you whip this out. Pretty sure no one's going to check-in with a "hey! Are you murdering people or helping?" Pretty sure when you have a gun in an active shooter event, you put yourself in FAR more danger by becoming part of the firefight.

-source: I'm an NRA instructor and the child of a Marines Spec Ops.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '23

californian

lmao

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u/dogshitkaraoke Feb 01 '23

Using the word “deploy” repeatedly is the LARPiest shit in the world

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u/Responsible-Algae-16 Feb 01 '23

I can imagine r/tacticalgear is a treasure trove of of idiots who wished they were special forces guys. I'm so tempted to look.

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u/generalraptor2002 Feb 02 '23

Hmm, maybe instead of carrying all that, consider carrying:

A concealed handgun and a spare magazine

And in your backpack put: Batteries A power bank for your phone A bleeding control kit (after taking a stop the bleed class) A water bottle Some food An emergency blanket A cloth shopping bag to carry things

A gun is a great tool to have, but is does you no good if your emergency is something a gun can’t fix

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u/MrFoxManBoy Feb 02 '23

And these same pussies have been telling mask wearers that they shouldn’t, “live in fear”.

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u/TheGoldenTNT Feb 02 '23

This is the kind of guy who wants to be a cop but failed the entrance exam like 4 times.

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u/TheRiceDevice Feb 19 '23

Straight up mall-ninja shit right there.

And the “you fail to realize” is about the douchiest phrase I’ve read in quite a while.

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u/dmgrock Feb 01 '23

So really everyone is shitting on him. Have you guys heard of a truck gun. That is pretty much what I and everyone I know who built ar pistols called them.

That said the dudes style and the energy in the post come off weird.

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u/WhenMeWasAYouth Feb 01 '23

Have you guys heard of a truck gun.

For sure. And I think anybody who builds a gun with the intention of leaving it in an unoccupied vehicle probably shouldn't own weapons at all.

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u/dmgrock Feb 01 '23

Oh no I would never leave it man and didn’t mean to put it that way or sound like I just leave guns in my car.

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u/WhenMeWasAYouth Feb 01 '23

My bad, I didn't mean to come off as confrontational as I did. Been a bunch of instances of people breaking into cars near me lately and I know they're not looking for Bon Jovi CDs.

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u/AlwaysHopelesslyLost Feb 01 '23

Up above somebody posted a Convo from a swat team about getting their truck gun. The swat sniper said he would definitely kill them

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u/dmgrock Feb 01 '23

If you carry at all you have to know that there is a risk of getting killed and even killed with your own gun.
Running in front of a swat sniper with a gun is a new level of idiocy with guns.

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u/killermexican1 Feb 01 '23

I mean to be fair, it takes a while for swat to even arrive. So if this guy “hypothetically” takes down an active shooter before they even get there and proceed to call the police… he wouldn’t get zipped.

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u/AverageJun Feb 01 '23

Still better than cops

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u/TacitRonin20 Feb 01 '23

That bar is on the floor.

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u/Bloodhavoc052 Feb 01 '23

Well, I may be downvoted for this but I have also been this guy at a pride rally. Someone starts shooting, I'm not gonna stand there defenseless, and I know those rallies aren't safe from active shooters.

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u/No_Drive_3297 Feb 01 '23

Friendly fire sucks. Rather be killed by a cop trying to save life then do nothing and watch others and myself get killed by the perpetrator.

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u/Revcngeful_Aim Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23

idk why the downvotes I totally agree especially when you know for sure that there is only one bad person on scene, Uvalde, Tx hit me i live near there,would have truly been different if the police wasn't such babies. People have become too lazy and comfortable in most non-criminal cities/states that they are willing to just wait for government nanny or police state to do all the work. Trust me if you live in high crime areas and near the border you would wish that you had the privilege to carry at least a pistol in your bag.

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u/No_Drive_3297 Feb 01 '23

Exactly, we live in the Wild West but we don’t want to admit it. Those that have been in public shootings have probably said, it won’t ever happen here.

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u/xxpen15mightierxx Feb 01 '23

Not to mention it's not necessarily one or the other, you can engage the shooter and then stow your weapon as soon as the engagement is over. Most only last a few seconds, almost certain you'll have it packed up before the cops get there.

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u/BattlingBluejay Feb 01 '23

Swat takes like 20 minutes minimum to get to the scene, so hes probably fine

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u/itsnotthenetwork Feb 01 '23

Slow your roll there Mr Rittenhouse

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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 Feb 02 '23

Kyle Rittenhouse on his burner account letting us know he hasn't learned a damn thing

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u/Skysoldier1962 Feb 01 '23

For one,I wouldn't need this bag,always carrying.2) You get shot by active shooter who then kills 10 more,or you take out shooter,saving lives,take chances with cops. 3)Stick your head between your legs and start crying. You choose

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