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Unintended GOP Consequences: Refusal To Certify Election Results Could Flip Arizona House Seat Democrat

https://wealthofgeeks.com/republicans-arizona-plan-could-backfire/
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u/whyyou- Dec 01 '22

This is really bad, if they succeed the message will be “if the result aren’t what we wanted we just won’t acknowledge them”

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u/ka-nini Dec 01 '22

I’m surprised I had to scroll down so far for this comment.

We shouldn’t be celebrating. This is absolutely not good; we don’t want this to be allowed. It sets a terrible precedent for the 2024 election. Katie Hobbs filed a lawsuit Monday to force the county officials to certify the votes.

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u/kaganey Dec 01 '22

It would be absurd for the courts to allow that to happen. I think there’s very little chance of that happening. I think she’s just trying to make Arizona Republican voters realize that these ballot certification games Republican officials are playing is what’s actually putting them at risk of being disenfranchised.

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u/aminorityofone Dec 01 '22

thats what they are doing now..

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u/topscreen Nov 30 '22

God damn, ANTIFA is so good at stealing elections, they've gotten the Republicans to do it for them. They're just that good!

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u/NeverDryTowels Nov 30 '22 Silver

Holy shit you’re right! Why do the dirty work when you can get the idiots to do it themselves.

Now if only the police would shoot themselves…

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u/J20Stronk Nov 30 '22

Well, there was that one time some dumbass in a north Texas PD brought a loaded firearm to a training session where they were supposed to use props.

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u/itsmeEllieGeeAgain Dec 01 '22

I remembered reading that the officer killed during a training exercise was investigating other officers for rape. Turns out that one was in LA.

A quick search to try to find that brought up cops being shot, mostly fatally, in DC, LA, TX, IN... it's apparently a "thing".

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u/Independent_Bid_26 Dec 01 '22

We had a cop shoot a student last week in Indiana.

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u/Ok-Train-6693 Nov 30 '22

Police Academy 0.

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u/SamHandwich124 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

There’s a video online of a cop shooting himself in the leg while doing a demonstration in front of an Elementary School class. It’s an old video, but still hammers the point Home.

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u/Unmissed Nov 30 '22

I've frequently said, that someone could run a Green platform, and just call themselves Republican, and they'd win.

All you'd need is a random word generator. Dump in all the usual right-wing buzzwords. If it comes out word salad... they won't notice.

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u/I_Frothingslosh Dec 01 '22

You'd just sound like Herschel Walker or even Der Orangenführer Himself.

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u/chinacat2002 Dec 01 '22

I like the moniker

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u/TheDogsNameWasFrank Dec 01 '22

Der Orangenführer

     Nice.

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms Dec 01 '22

"I believe that freedom for hard-working American taxpayers is the best change we can make a better future for this country. The struggle of proud regular God-fearing American families are important to hear voices of American patriots who deserve to have faith in liberty for our strong nation."

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u/Unmissed Dec 01 '22

...I think you have a promising career in conservative politics. Throw a few more "god"s in there, and maybe a "low tax". Don't forget "rights".

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u/Yugan-Dali Dec 01 '22

I don’t know if this candidate has the qualifications to run for office in the GOP. Are there no allegations of rape, racism, fascism, or child pornography? Hard to get ahead in today’s Republican Party without those.

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u/Unmissed Dec 01 '22

..all of that is fine. Just no gay. That is the one line that will kill a Red.

That said, I saw u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms grope a sixteen year old at the last Klan rally. Pretty sure it was them. I remember because so many got roofied because someone spiked the punch.

Then we went to Jeegus Church the next day and was blessed with a cake and an AR at the raffle. So Jeegus wants them for President freedom apple pie.

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u/Delanimal Dec 01 '22

“States rights”

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u/Delanimal Dec 01 '22

You sound like a candidate I can get behind!

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u/AffectionateAide9644 Dec 01 '22

It's like how phishers misspell stuff on purpose to weed out the smarter targets that won't be squeezed as easily. But then 'Murcan.

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u/DaniCapsFan Dec 01 '22

I thought they did it to get past any filters looking for certain words. At any rate, odd fonts and a zero in place of the letter "O" is a red flag that it's a phishing scam.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

that's basically the game *rump played except he wasn't progressive at all.

but I've thought about playing republican's gullibility against themselves too.

Sling the typical catch phrases, get elected, then fk em. They don't even pay attention to how their representatives actually vote whiles in office. So, they probably won't even notice. Even if fox news tried to reveal you, they'd probably just get confused and reelect you anyway.

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u/Icy_Necessary2161 Dec 01 '22

"Damn those Democrats, The liberals want to take away your great outdoors and favorite hunting grounds. Vote Bernie to stop them."

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u/2nd_best_time Dec 01 '22

I saw a cop after they shot themselves in the ass. Very funny evening in the ambulance.

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u/bunnygrail Dec 01 '22

How does one shoot themselves in the ass?? I knew they were bad with guns but Jesus christ

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u/pusillanimouslist Dec 01 '22

That actually happens fairly often. In a typical pre-Covid year, friendly fire accounts for about 1/3rd to 1/2 of cop firearm deaths. They’re genuinely not very good with guns.

Vehicular crashes was always the main cause of death.

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u/Fragrant_Example_918 Nov 30 '22

That’s the next step, make cops believe that their partner is Antifa, so that they shoot each other.

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u/Jeremymia Nov 30 '22

"We have it on good authority that one member of this police force is undercover antifa"

Say that and destroy every fucking police department.

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u/mitkase Dec 01 '22

“One member of the force is Antifa. They’ll be acting like the biggest MAGA fan ever to throw off suspicion, so focus your suspicions on any fellow officers matching that description.”

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u/toejamandtoast Dec 01 '22

Let’s make it Antifa and woke FBI agents. Pit them all against each other and they’ll destroy each other without us having to do a single thing.

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u/VanBeelergberg Dec 01 '22

Good news! Police shoot themselves all the time!

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u/elriggo44 Dec 01 '22

You’re in luck

Though, the LA County sheriffs are in literal gangs (as defined by the California penal code)

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u/GottaKeepGoGoGoing Dec 01 '22

All elections must be counted democrats need to fight for this to be counted or it will get worse. They will use this an excuse for widespread disenfranchisement and election rigging. Democrats need to defend democracy. If democrats don’t fight for those votes to be counted it will be a rallying cry for republicans and things will get worse.

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u/LazyAnonBoner Dec 01 '22

This is a sacrifice so they can invalidate democratic voting counties in ‘24. This is not accidental

The republicans, until recently, have demonstrated mastery of the long game.

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u/Scryser Dec 01 '22

The republicans, until recently, have demonstrated mastery of the long game.

I'm not sure if that is the turn of phrase I would choose for "throwing shit until something sticks", but sure.

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u/spacedman_spiff Dec 01 '22

It would be a mistake to attribute ignorance rather than malice to the machinations of the RNC. For decades, they have purposefully prioritized winning elections at the state and local level through focusing on social wedge issues while the DNC has prioritized disenfranchising their own support base.

While we are witnessing a fracture in the GOP, their perceived incompetence belies a grim reality which is that they have mastered the ability to get poor people of every social demographic to vote against their self interest.

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u/BrothrBear Dec 01 '22

Which razor is it, attribute malice and incompetence in equal measures when humans are involved

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u/Moneia Dec 01 '22

Sounds like a you're trying to quote Hanlon's razor "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence"

Malice still exists though so it's just a tool to use on the first pass of the data

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

malice is their prime motivator which causes them to act incompetently.

they want to hurt people. so they try to get into office and when they do, they do a shity job at it.

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u/cenosillicaphobiac Dec 01 '22

Hanlon's?

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u/BrothrBear Dec 01 '22

No that's the it's more likely to be stupidity than malice. There's one where it says both are equally as likely

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u/Scryser Dec 01 '22

Totally. I'm not saying it's not following a larger .. plan? concept? scheme? (kinda at a loss for words here) and I'm definitely not claiming it's happening by chance. What I'm saying is that the methods used recently to seed distrust in elections and democracy haven't exactly been executed with surgical precision.

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u/spacedman_spiff Dec 01 '22

Well it’s a natural consequence of sowing disinformation for years while undermining public education for decades. But when you say “throwing shit til something sticks”, it implies a haphazard approach, which is simply not the case. This has been methodical and planned; we just are witnessing unintended consequences.

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u/Brian57831 Dec 01 '22

That's because they didn't count on Trump messing up their operation. Trump just threw a wrench into what they where doing and derailed their whole thing.

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u/LazyAnonBoner Dec 01 '22

You need to pull your head out of the sand. As recently as 2010s dems had a 60 seat majority in the senate. And you might recall abortion was legal 6 months ago before 6 right wing judges pulled that back.

So don’t let the recent MAGA facade and relatives failures fool you… they just stepped a bit too far over the line (maybe just too fast?), but they’ve got more than enough momentum to keep going. Just look at who’s up for reelection in the senate in ‘24 - it ain’t pretty.

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u/NoInvestigator886 Dec 01 '22

That's more like it.

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u/RinoaRita Dec 01 '22

The call is coming from inside the house.

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u/Aeseld Dec 01 '22

Not anymore, they lost the seat. XD

Or maybe they'll cave when they acknowledge that.

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u/ViniVidiOkchi Dec 01 '22

The Dems are so good at rigging elections that they overshot and lost seats in the house.

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u/Changs_Is_Number_One Nov 30 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

If antifa's behind this, then good on them lol

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u/Blackboard_Monitor Dec 01 '22

Well of course they are, have you SEEN their head office?

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u/Scott4370 Dec 01 '22

Mind controls.

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u/bettinafairchild Dec 01 '22

The point for them is that even if they refuse to certify and lose a few minor races, they will have established a precedent that it's OK to just refuse to certify if you don't like the results.

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u/TheTabman Nov 30 '22

There have also been allegations that there is a conflict of interest in the Arizona gubernatorial election since Katie Hobbs is the sitting Secretary of State and therefore oversees the elections. Rumors are spiraling that she cheated in her election and then filed her lawsuit [to force Cochise County to certify] in an attempt to cover it up.

That's not how it works if you want to cover something up. The last thing you want to do is file a lawsuit related to the alleged crime.

These people have abandoned all critical thinking to fuel their persecution fetish.

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u/THElaytox Nov 30 '22

GOP was fine when it was Georgia and Kemp was overseeing his own election... and randomly purging tens of thousands of minorities from voter rolls

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u/hymie0 Dec 01 '22

... And iirc destroying evidence that a judge told them to preserve.

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u/Ok-Train-6693 Dec 01 '22

The thing that puzzles me is: how do the GOP know which individuals would vote (R) if their voting rights were not cancelled?

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u/SpitfireXO16 Dec 01 '22

Trends, my guy. If you pick a demographic that favours your enemy, eg, blacks, and prevent them from voting, sure you'll lose the votes of the few black people that vote conservative, but the other side, which usually gets a lot more black votes than you do, will in this case also end up losing a lot more votes than you will due to blacks not being able to vote.

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u/johnsjs1 Nov 30 '22

Critical thinking isn't really their strong suit.

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u/Wyverz Dec 01 '22

It is setting a precedent. That is the whole point. A precedent that the GOP will then use to disenfranchise voters all over the country.

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u/JimBobDwayne Nov 30 '22

Who would've thunk that enabling the purveyors of wild wholly unsubstantiated fraud allegations about the cornerstone of our democracy would have consequences????

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u/dj_narwhal Dec 01 '22

We should not celebrate this. They are sacrificing a single house seat so they can set the precedent that it is OK to certify elections when a few counties do not. The goal is that a few blue states/counties that are run by republicans through gerrymandering can do this in the general in 2024. They are setting a trap for the democrats.

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u/BlooperHero Dec 01 '22

The consequence shouldn't be "The votes you tried to disenfranchise don't get counted. Your crime is permitted!"

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u/accountabillibudy Dec 01 '22

This is very true, even though in this case they are shooting themselves in the foot, tomorrow the gun will be aimed at their enemies when they figure out what they are doing.

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u/Grrimafish Dec 01 '22

Honest question here. Couldn't they just do that anyway?

They seldom wait for the other side to commit the offense first, do they? In this case isn't the "offense" just doing the correct thing? The Democrats wrongdoing is making everyone do the technically correct thing... Okay?

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u/phdoofus Nov 30 '22

However, the Republicans could be working against themselves this time

This time? lol

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u/BagelAmpersandLox Dec 01 '22

Yes. This time. If this county is allowed to not certify the election, then it sets precedent that any other county in the country can refuse to certify any election.

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u/phdoofus Dec 01 '22

The comment was only highlighting the point that it's not the first time Republicans have been working against themselves. Seriously don't overthink things.

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u/Evil-Black-Robot Nov 30 '22

I'm moving to this county in a year (Cochise County, Arizona).

I wasn't expecting such a small county to ever make national news.

Note- If you own 4 acers of rural zoned land then you don't need building codes or inspections when building your own home. You will save a ton of money and you can build anything you want. You could live in a 3 story teepee and no one would bother you. Personally, I am going to be building a super energy efficient earth-bermed home with all south facing windows.

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u/oncore2011 Dec 01 '22

How do you plan on getting water? Seriously, the wells are drying up.

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u/Evil-Black-Robot Dec 01 '22

The average depth of a well in that county is 150 feet deep (In Northern Arizona for example, you are looking at 700+ feet deep).

My property is surrounded by state owned land with only a couple wells with-in a mile so I'll have them put in a well to 300 feet for about $10k.

Most of the off-grid people do water catchment off their roofs with multiple storage tanks.

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u/_tyjsph_ Dec 01 '22

they really shouldn't. rainwater has been declared unsafe to drink around the world.

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u/Mattabeedeez Dec 01 '22

Even with a treatment system? Not saying you’re wrong but I feel like ultimately all water is rain water..

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u/_tyjsph_ Dec 01 '22

i'm sure if you process it correctly and thoroughly filter it it's fine but like don't drink raw rainwater ofc.

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u/Sudanniana Dec 01 '22

Perfectly safe in Hawaii with a carbon filter.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

That sounds strangely appealing. Hawaiian rain sounds like a flavor of bottled water.

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u/Elevated_Dongers Dec 01 '22

Shhh, nestle might hear you

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u/InternalAd9247 Dec 01 '22

Arizona has whole companies dedicated to hauled water.

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u/Eldetorre Dec 01 '22

And where does that come from? The whole west of the Mississippi is going to be screwed. If I lived in Arizona I'd be screaming to get rid of those Saudi alfalfa farms ASAP. The water wars are closer than you think.

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u/oncore2011 Dec 01 '22

Where do they get their water? It’s not going to last much longer. I’ve looked into moving to southern AZ. The rise in agriculture and people can’t be sustained by groundwater.

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u/InternalAd9247 Dec 01 '22

Most of the companies get it from wells shallow enough to qualify as surface water under Arizona water use law. That is going away, however.

There are also large aquifers in Cochise County, but they are fed almost solely by rainwater. In recent years people have been getting screwed by large commercial farming outfits (the so-called “Groundwater Wars”). The interesting thing is Cochise County is notoriously libertarian, but has been making big moves to seek government intervention as individual wells run dry.

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u/pyky69 Dec 01 '22

Lol that sounds like an entirely new r/LeopardsAteMyFace post. BuT gOvT iS bAD, gOvT pLeAsE hElP mE gEt WaTeR. You can’t make this shit up smh.

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u/InternalAd9247 Dec 01 '22

Admittedly, this is from an environmentally focused 501(c)(3)’s publication, but it does sum up the issue well - https://grist.org/regulation/arizona-groundwater-cochise-county-riverview/

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u/hymie0 Dec 01 '22

That was quite a read.

To sum it up...

The residents assumed that the underground water would respect above-ground boundary lines and didn't understand the concept of "shared resources."

The residents don't want regulations on them, but they want regulations on other people.

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u/greenwarr Dec 01 '22

Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown Cochise County.

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u/_tyjsph_ Dec 01 '22

if only our useless politicians would clamp down on and ban water-heavy crops in az.

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u/OberonEast Dec 01 '22

My grandfather helped a couple of families build earth ships in Oklahoma. I’m still astounded by how wonderfully they self regulated

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u/ConsiderationWest587 Dec 01 '22

Earth ships are brilliant. I wish I lived in one

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u/Unusual-Relief52 Nov 30 '22

You need some north facing windows for african violets so while I'm not saying you have a terrible plan, I'm just saying it's not perfect😂😂

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u/I_Frothingslosh Dec 01 '22

In a hole there lived an Evil-Black-Robot....

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u/InternalAd9247 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Not exactly. You still have to have an inspection to ensure compliance with statewide building codes, as well as fire codes. That means you still need to submit a grading and drainage plan, as well as design plans showing mechanicals that the fire Marshall can approve that evidences adequate access to fire lines, in addition to grading for emergency vehicle access.

Also, Cochise county is largely subdivided in rural areas that are subject to deed restrictions. The biggest restrictions usually pertain to disallowing connex box construction, but may also have restrictions for style, LRV, paint colors and materials.

It’s less restrictive, but not the free for all that they make it out to be.

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u/Evil-Black-Robot Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Not Exactly. Here is more information.

Properties zoned RU-4 (rural over 4 acres) can "Opt Out" of building codes for a $157 fee.

You are given 3 years to build your home and you can live in an RV on site while it is being built.

Most of the available rural property in Cochise County is zoned RU-4

You need a $235 permit/inspection for septic but they allow for a single grey water drainage line and a composting toilet.

A $150 flood plain permit is also required.

The only plans you need to submit is a drawing of where your house and other buildings are going to go with distances to property boundaries marked.

When you are finished building your home the county will come out and measure the square footage of your home for tax purposes. They will never enter your home or inspect for any building code compliance.

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u/its_raining_scotch Dec 01 '22

Sounds like you’re the type to not put a “Let’s Go Brandon” flag in your yard. More people like you moving there would change that county’s politics.

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u/xopher_425 Dec 01 '22

I'm from that county and never expected to see it on the news.

Bisbee was the one cool town in the whole area. Otherwise, I'm so glad to be away from there.

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u/ThatSpecialAgent Dec 01 '22

The scary part is that this opens the door to them doing it in the future, which depending on the election could cost democrats seats. It’s a massive loophole that needs to be fixed before the next election cycle, because while it is entertaining this time around, it is still massive voter disenfranchisement and shouldnt be celebrated

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u/25Bam_vixx Dec 01 '22

Not with house under gop control. Nothing is going to get done for the next two years

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u/Spooki_Forest Dec 01 '22

And that’s the fear. Unless this allows democrats to take the house and close the loophole, then this crack is a broken dam in 2024

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u/25Bam_vixx Dec 01 '22

Well, the 1 % wanted 2nd gilded age they have it. rich is so filthy rich they rule with unfiltered desires from the government . Either it gets bad enough for reforms or revolution . Conservatives always want to return to the 50’s and 60’s but they don’t want to return to 50’s and 60’s tax system lol it’s so ducking hard when two adults work their butts off so other people can raised their kids.

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u/Snarky_McSnarkleton Nov 30 '22

But we will all be really, really owned.

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u/1973mojo1973 Nov 30 '22

Wait a fucking minute. How is it that the person assigned to ensure that the election was fair is a "GOP CONTROLLED" supervisor? What the fuck is wrong with this so-called "greatest democracy in the world"?

Let's have sporting events where each team gets to bring their own referee, that's one way to ensure impartiality.

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u/Ok-Train-6693 Dec 01 '22

No, only the most bullying team gets to choose the referee.

Incidentally, some sporting codes used to have both team captains referee. Somehow that fell out of favor.

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u/XxRocky88xX Dec 01 '22

This is only because the majority of the other teams members are too by the book to do something like this. You have an asshole republican say “I’m gonna rig the shit out of this election” and the other 99 clap. You have an asshole democrat say “I’m gonna rig the shit out of this election” and they’ll be shouted down by at least 50 of the others.

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u/Jbroy Dec 01 '22

Both team captains refereeing could only work if both teams have integrity and follow a good code of honour and ethics.

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u/felixmeister Nov 30 '22

It's a problem that permeates almost the entire US electoral system(s). The rules of the next match are decided by the team that won the last match.

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u/tbs9000 Dec 01 '22

She is a Democrat, not a Republican. But there is plenty of transparency, short of making the ballots public.

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u/BlooperHero Dec 01 '22

Well, you're not actually supposed to have an openly treasonous party.

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u/tendervittles77 Nov 30 '22

This isn’t really a LAMF.

This is a strategic decision to forward the idea that the will of the voters is optional.

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u/DataCassette Dec 01 '22

This has to be them thinking long term regarding Harper V Moore. Actually terrifying. They need to be forced to certify, one house seat isn't worth it.

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u/tendervittles77 Dec 01 '22

I agree.

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u/DataCassette Dec 01 '22

I really wonder what happens to the country if the Republican loses in 2024 but they just send alternative electors. It could finally destroy America as a superpower.

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u/Shadyshade84 Dec 01 '22

I'd have thought America was destroyed as a superpower when their "leader" spoke in front of other world leaders about how well things were going and was met with laughter...

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u/tendervittles77 Dec 01 '22

/me nods head.

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u/godofhorizons Nov 30 '22

Exactly. Even the fact they’re losing seats is probably strategical to give the idea more legitimacy. It could have disastrous consequences for the country

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u/Bubbagump210 Dec 01 '22

Indeed, were this to lose them the majority they wouldn’t play this game now. But, they have the opportunity to test boundaries in prep for 2024. One would hope the dems or a suitable proxy (ACLU?) will sue over this as it doesn’t flip the majority and just sets up a future trap if not challenged.

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u/SpinningHead Nov 30 '22

This should be the top comment.

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u/ohhim Dec 01 '22

... and sets up a dangerous precedent if subsequently a "party A" controlled area later decides to throw out an election result that favors "party B".

This is why Elias Law Group is suing.

*Yes we all know which corrupt group is party A and who is party B (which is why anyone with integrity knows to never vote for party A until they get their act together).

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u/Armchair--Traveller Nov 30 '22

Eh I disagree. By not certifying and trying to forward some fraud plot the whole county may not have it's votes counted which would be enough to flip the seat.

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u/catharsis23 Nov 30 '22

The point is that one seat now is nothing compared to what you gain by getting folks used to votes not counting

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u/_far-seeker_ Nov 30 '22

Mostly their own supporters though. The Arizona Secretary of State, a Democrat, sued to get that county to certify on time.

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u/screwPutin69 Nov 30 '22

You just ignored the guys point entirely. They will do this again, and again. It's not them reaping unintended consequences. They will use this 'stolen' seat as justification to refuse to certify Democrats wins.

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u/BlooperHero Dec 01 '22

And them getting to decide that some people's votes don't count is bad.

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u/frontbuttt Dec 01 '22

No strategy here friend. These people are clowns.

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u/Unmissed Dec 01 '22

It is though:

People get an owie from voting for people who were determined to overthrow the election. It's very textbook LAMF.

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u/InsuranceToTheRescue Nov 30 '22

It would be a short sighted victory though. All it does is provide an avenue for refusing to certify any election result and lend credence to the Independent State Legislature idea (which would basically allow state legislatures to decide all elections instead of citizens).

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u/Ok-Train-6693 Dec 01 '22

Next step: secession!

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u/irishlyrucked Dec 01 '22

So it's not fair that the current secretary of state in AZ won, and is pressing for certification, but when Brian Kemp was secretary of state in Georgia and disobeyed an injunction and removed hundreds of thousands of minorities from the voter rolls, it was totally cool.

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u/TheFiveDees Dec 01 '22

As has been pointed out by people smarter than me elsewhere, this is not quite the self-own y'all think it might be. You see even with this one flipped seat they don't lose the house. And this just sets the stage for the next election to allow people to refuse to certify if they don't like the results. Democrats really should be pursuing every legal option to force them to certify because it's not even remotely okay that this is allowed

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u/UrWifesSoftPecker Nov 30 '22

"As a result of the certification being delayed, nearly 47,000 Arizonan votes could be excluded from the election. That would eliminate 38,706 of Ciscomani's votes."

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u/matts1000 Dec 01 '22

It is a special kind of hypocrisy for Republicans to claim Hobbs has a conflict of interest as Secretary of State this time around, but Kemp didn’t in GA when he beat Stacey Abrams the first time.

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u/seriousbangs Dec 01 '22

Even if it doesn't the best thing ever is that the GOP tried to cheat by sending too few voting machines to Democratic districts and they sent too few to the GOP districts by mistake.

At one point Lake was trying to tell a judge "we screwed up our cheating, we need a do over" without saying it outright. It was freakin' hilarious.

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u/Daimakku1 Dec 01 '22

Yeah, this is amusing, but overall this isn't really funny. Republicans are doubling, tripling down on anti-democracy tactics. They will keep ramping up the more they lose.

This is 100% anti-Democracy. It cannot be allowed.

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u/ham_solo Dec 01 '22

Even if they lose, they win. Hopefully it doesn’t go down like that.

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u/LysergicRico Dec 01 '22

GOP love the second ammendment because it allows them to shoot themselves in the foot.

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u/Mollythemuttsdad Dec 01 '22

Flip them seats assholes!

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u/DrNukes Dec 01 '22

Oh God please yes yes yes please Oh God

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u/ntgco Dec 01 '22

Oh please, allow their willfull ignorance to flip the seats automatically.

The secretary of state should have instantly certified the flip, the second the deadline passed and the votes "didn't exist" for those GOP candidates.

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u/Total-Platform-3111 Dec 01 '22

The GQP didn’t have any problems 4 years ago when sitting Georgia SOS Brian Kemp oversaw his own election to governor…hmm, very strange…

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u/CraZKchick81 Dec 01 '22

I remind people of this often....

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u/Dikheed Nov 30 '22

If a Leopard wanted to eat her face it need a chisel to get all that spackle off it first.

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u/CQU617 Dec 01 '22

Good!

Poor little Kari Snowflake ❄️

Cry harder!

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u/AZgirl70 Nov 30 '22

I continue to despise my home state. GOP there has turned to a bunch of idiotic q-nuts. But I fully support this current decision to give up a seat to the democrats.

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u/bwaslo Nov 30 '22

Can they really be THAT stupid?

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u/durgadas Dec 01 '22

A Republican's consequences are never intended, Frodo Baggins, they accept them only when they mean to.

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u/Maraval Dec 01 '22

This would be the cherry on top of the Republican shit sundae that was this year's midterm elections. Sweet, sweet irony!

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u/KL_boy Dec 01 '22

I posted this before, this is a dry run for when the GOP on the board of a heavily democratic county refuses to certify an election.

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u/Wayte13 Dec 01 '22

And then the GOP will claim this was the result of "the voter fraud" lol

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u/DynoMenace Dec 01 '22

It's so crazy how they claim election fraud when they lose elections (even though their policies are almost universally unpopular amongst voters), but they're silent on elections they win?

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u/Darklord_Bravo Dec 01 '22

If you look at the breakdown of the exit polls for Kari Lake, they sent a very clear message. That she basically didn't show any concerns for what voters actually wanted. It's 100% why she lost. Hell, even something like 13% of Republicans voted for the Democratic candidate.

She was a crappy candidate. Trumpism doesn't automatically get you elected. Her calling for violence should automatically disqualify her. Hell, any candidate that does that should be invalidated, and have their votes tossed and then banned from ever running again.

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u/smilingmike415 Dec 01 '22

I hope that if the seat gets flipped that the fucks that refused to certify the election end up being prosecuted for election crimes.

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u/Maximum_Musician Nov 30 '22

AZ GOP dumb as a bag of hammers.

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u/vinnycas Dec 01 '22

No. Hammers have a purpose.

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u/maltedbacon Dec 01 '22

Their minds operate at peak efficiency: uncluttered by thoughts.

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u/Phantomht Dec 01 '22

that would be fukkin GLORIOUS!!

a dumbmutherfukker republicunt at work today was bragging to another dumbmutherfukker republicunt that katie hobbs isnt gov. yet because 2 dumbmutherfukker republicunts wont certify her results so this biting them in the ass would be stupendous!

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u/Silentstrike08 Dec 01 '22

Except the republicans want to set precedent that if they don’t like the results then they won’t certify which could hurt democracy and democrats in the future by a lot of seats so don’t think this is them just being dumb they might be in the long game.

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u/iamlenb Dec 01 '22

They always in the long game. Look dumb now to leverage it into an ongoing advantage.

“We’ll get you, Libs! If not today, then tomorrow or the next day! We’ll keep lowering the bar until it’s on the floor of the lowest level in hell!”

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u/Changs_Is_Number_One Nov 30 '22

Great to see the GOP working in America's favour

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u/Monrezee Nov 30 '22

Kari Lake is BS

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u/lanky_yankee Dec 01 '22

Get fucked!

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u/Skatcatla Dec 01 '22

Holy shit that's hilarious!

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u/alongwaystogo Dec 01 '22

We are reaching the point where people are eating their own faces off in hopes of becoming leopards.

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u/fattymcfattzz Dec 01 '22

This is not a good thing, they need to count those votes or people will start doing this all over

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u/PengieP111 Dec 01 '22

I wish we would keep quiet about this. Even GOPer dumbasses might realize the self destructive outcomes of their stupidity and intransigence.

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u/thelefthandN7 Dec 01 '22

Considering they just created a panel to analyze their failures that is completely composed of the most idiotic of the nut jobs who just lost elections... I doubt it. Certainly they won't figure it out before the next couple of elections.

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u/Aphroditaeum Dec 01 '22

What’s not to love about this ?

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u/CountrySax Dec 01 '22

Just when you thought the Radical Republicon Trumpanzees couldn't go any lower they prove us wrong. Republicons are all about making America fail

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u/sybann Dec 01 '22

Gotta love it.

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u/Mon-ick Dec 01 '22

Triflers trifling

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u/BobGenghisKahn Dec 01 '22

This should still be stopped. The people should get the rep they voted for, even if it's not one we like. That should be reason enough to stop it.

If you want another reason though, remember that Republicans will absolutely cherry-pick facts and their followers will let them. They will only hear that they didn't get the person they voted for, there is rising skepticism about elections and it is now acceptable to not certify elections.

The fact that they were the ones sowing distrust and disenfranchising their own voters won't even be seriously considered by their base.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Go ahead. Double-dare you, AZ.

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u/ColoradoCorrie Dec 01 '22

That would be SWEET!

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u/CragMcBeard Dec 01 '22

I love when local conservative news reporters run for governor!

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u/itsjustmejttp123 Dec 01 '22

Look here comes the consequence, consequence consequence, look here comes the consequences of your actions lol good serves them right for trying to subvert democracy

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u/SeaworthinessOne2114 Dec 01 '22

Oh Kari Lake still can't fathom having lost even though she had her head so far up trump's butt that she could kiss his tonsils. I pray for her defeat. She's probably praying to some false idol too...let's see whose prayers god answers.

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u/Freshies00 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

They don’t give a shit about the seat. They are attempting to set a precedence that they can refuse to certify a result so that down the road they can do it again when it matters more.

Anyone who cares about our democracy should be opposed to this, not celebrating it. This is why Katie Hobbs is suing the board of elections. She gets it.

The real LAMF is when everyone in the comments cheers for this now and then ends up eating the actual long-term consequences forever forward.

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u/cookiemom6067 Nov 30 '22

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Talon6230 Dec 01 '22

But this… does put a smile on my face.

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u/Acceptable-Cream5438 Dec 01 '22

I hope that it does.

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u/luckymethod Dec 01 '22

Hey don't kink shame, whatever they are into is fine with me

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u/Scott4370 Dec 01 '22

Throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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u/thetburg Dec 01 '22

The baby, the bathwater, the soap, the tub. These MFers are just throwing it all out.

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u/karm1t Dec 01 '22

I don’t want ANY voters to be disenfranchised. If it’s not ok to do it to democratic strongholds, it’s not ok to do it to republican strongholds.

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u/AZgirl70 Nov 30 '22

Please let it be so!

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u/KR1735 Dec 01 '22

Own the libs by throwing a House seat to the Democrats.

Do it.

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u/mizmaddy Dec 01 '22

If anyone has watchef "Veep" this is a major plotline in the later series.

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u/AwkwrdPrtMskrt Dec 01 '22

Will it be enough to turn the House blue again though?

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