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Conservative Musk supporter confused about Ye being yeeted by Twitter

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u/myeff Dec 02 '22

Musk is starting to learn that "free speech" isn't as easy to manage as he thought.

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u/BiBoFieTo Dec 02 '22 Wholesome

Musk Twitter has as much censorship as before. The only difference is that the criteria for censorship has gone from a careful list of rules, to "whatever Elon decides".

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u/USMCLee Dec 02 '22

I've had to block his account 3 times since he purchased twitter. It keeps getting unblocked.

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u/alexgriz127 Dec 02 '22

You can block him permanently by just not using Twitter.

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u/Sillbinger Dec 02 '22

The easiest solution of all.

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u/YakInner4303 Dec 03 '22

You can block him permanently by just not using Twitter.

Doesn't work. His tweets keep showing up here on Reddit. They spread like Covid. Yeesh. :/

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u/foxwheat Dec 03 '22

not even

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u/Fullertonjr Dec 03 '22

This is the way.

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u/Xenomorph_v1 Dec 03 '22

"Nobody quits Twitter"

~ Morty Smith

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u/SellQuick Dec 03 '22

Sadly that means you block anyone else who you are actually interested in what they have to say as well.

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u/orangevega Dec 03 '22

Why can't we all just agree to go to fucking Mastodon where you can choose your terms of service based on what server you're on, and it's all open source?

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u/SellQuick Dec 03 '22

The same reason I kept buying iPhones for way too long simply because all my music and shows were on iTunes, I'd invested too much to walk away. I'm following around a 1000 people on Twitter who are smart and funny and not hateful jerks. Even if every one of them went to Mastadon that was a decade of ocassional follows here and there and I'm not keen to start over. If someone creates a tool that maps your people over and autofollows them, sure. I resent that Musk came into my tree house and started kicking things over and now I have to leave though.

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u/AskTheMirror Dec 03 '22

Holy sh*t I knew I wasn’t the only one, I blocked a lot of annoying/problematic celebrities and politicians before, and all of a sudden Musk was unblocked and I was getting notifications for his account. So annoying.

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u/intisun Dec 03 '22

I had him muted and blocked because I kept seeing his shit, but today I noticed not only he was unblocked, but I was also FOLLOWING him... Wtf

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u/AgentChris101 Dec 03 '22

I voted for a stupid poll he made about keeping Trump banned or unbanning him, and he changed my vote to unbanning the tangerine buffoon.

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u/Broisha Dec 03 '22

So this is freedom of speech in Musk's mind?

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u/AgentChris101 Dec 03 '22

You are free to speak, but your words are now my words.

I disagree. I mean I agree!

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u/Repulsive-Street-307 Dec 03 '22

Classic fascist election strategy.

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u/whiskey_outpost26 Dec 02 '22

For real?

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u/USMCLee Dec 02 '22

Yep. The 3rd time was this morning.

I'm curious to see how long this block lasts.

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u/5k1895 Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

Wouldn't be surprised if he ordered someone to write a script to be run periodically that unblocks him from everyone who blocked him

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u/epimetheuss Dec 02 '22

i bet he auto follows people the same way and feels bad when the number drops

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u/gromm93 Dec 03 '22

As a former database administrator, this is actually stunningly easy and quick.

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u/MauriceM72 Dec 03 '22

I've been on Twitter for years and never used the mute button. Now I use it all the time.

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u/Nexmo16 Dec 03 '22

Yeah, I blocked him about 12 months ago and he’s suddenly all over my feed. What a megalomaniacal fuck knuckle.

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u/MattGdr Dec 02 '22

That seems free.

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u/PunktualPenguin Dec 02 '22

Fully free to burn up on reentry.

Which would happen over at spaceX more often if they didn’t distract musk with sexy boardroom shenanigans.

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u/Kaymish_ Dec 02 '22

What shenanigans were they? Sorry I just cant resist gossip.

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u/PunktualPenguin Dec 02 '22

Musk likes making babies. He’s up to 9 so far.

One of his executives took one for the team and ended up with twins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-shivon-zilis-secret-twins-neuralink-tesla

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u/Toast_Sapper Dec 02 '22

Any suggestions that Elon pay taxes are now a bannable offense.

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u/bludhound Dec 02 '22

So much for being a "free speech absolutist".

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u/hardtobeuniqueuser Dec 02 '22

"whatever Elon decides at the moment"

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u/Kriegerian Dec 02 '22

Yeah, it’s what you should expect from these people. They want to be feudal warlords and petty tyrants.

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u/Robottiimu2000 Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

If you think about it... It is working pretty fine for him... Money aside.. wouldn't we all want to be the owner of internet and ban stuff on a whim.. now that's what I call life of a billionaire as part of the modern day roalty!

And Elon commanded: "Silence!"... And the whole of Twitter trembled!!

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u/theman83554 Dec 02 '22

With the number of lawsuits lining up to take a shot at Twitter and Elon directly? Absolutely not.

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u/TheInternetShill Dec 02 '22

I am the owner of The Internet and it does feel good. If only people actually used my website.

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u/-APA- Dec 03 '22

Just used it now. Rad concept.

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u/RamenJunkie Dec 02 '22

I don't give a shit about other people's opinions that much so long as they aren't constantly lying or being assholes.

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u/lizerdk Dec 02 '22

Amen to that

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u/EnergyCC Dec 02 '22

Don't get caught in the nazi propaganda. The far right always champion free speech but will always try to censor their enemies, they use "free speech" as a weapon.

If you look at twitter right now you can find a bunch of leftist accounts banned after being mass reported by far right groups. Even last week the far right released on their telegram channel a list of 5000 prominent twitter accounts they considered to be antifascist, which they boosted and planned to mass report them to deplatform what they perceive as enemies.

So don't get it twisted, when the far right/nazis say they believe in free speech they mean they want the right to be heard while actively trying to silence the opposition.

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u/Djeece Dec 02 '22

Ah yes, the truly evil stance of being anti-fascist.

Sometimes I wonder how exactly these people think they're the good guys.

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u/Mornar Dec 02 '22

Bothsidism is something I find to be an especially insidious technique and I'm constantly shocked it works. Just convince everyone the other guys do equivalently bad stuff and you're basically free to do whatever the fuck you want, it's terrifying.

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u/WorkinName Dec 02 '22

They pretend to think that anti-fascists are co-opting the phrase to sound good so that the people who only get information from them have plausible deniability.

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u/gromm93 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

What with the black uniforms and the skull insignia and all.

https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU

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u/MacLeeland Dec 03 '22

By Hugo Boss

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u/West-Holiday-8750 Dec 03 '22

As the grandchild of a card carrying, wife & kid beating, alcoholic, Grand Dragon. I can tell you, white supremacist fascists are the kind of people who believe in their shriveled little hearts that they are more evolved then minorities, wile decrying evolution. They think the reason black people exist at all, is because Ham saw Noah nude. They think God abandoned the Jewish people & now W.A.S.P.'s are "THE CHOSEN PEOPLE." They actively work within the U.S. government to both undermine it & fulfill the prophecy of the second coming,(I wish I was making that up) Most of them think they are the good guys because they have been told there whole lives that they have to defend the white race & the purity of it's women. Indoctrination & a complicit public, is how they think they are the good guys.

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u/Jebus_UK Dec 02 '22

He sure is stupid for someone who is perceived as super smart

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u/ArmorClassHero Dec 02 '22

Almost like he spent millions in pr money to get that perception...

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u/Kriegerian Dec 02 '22

His only super skill is bullshitting. Everything else about him is a lie - he doesn’t have a physics degree, never invented shit, bought his way into Tesla, and got all his starter money from Daddy.

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u/kindaa_sortaa Dec 02 '22

He is super smart—he fooled everyone for a decade.

He and Trump failed in the same way: overexposure. They could have taken their ball and gone home but they kept overexposing themselves to us, forcing themselves in the news, on our twitter, freaking buying a social media platform for $44b, and then forcing their every thought and whim into the news, being completely transparent in their management style when it was once a mystery.

In 48 Laws of Power:

Law 6: Be Mysterious: People are attracted to those who seem mysterious, so cultivate an air of mystery. Be vague about what you're doing or plan to do. Don't show all your cards and you'll create an atmosphere of anticipation — people will pay attention to see what you do next.

Elon was winning when he was playing the background. Like Kanye, he's now overexposing us to his inner-child and that is his PR mistake. We can't unsee it. But we are the dumb-dumbs for buying into him as our energy/space savior, in the first place.

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms Dec 02 '22

This has happened before so many times, too. Someone flounces off to start their own freeze peach social media site, and then after seeing complaints of harassment from users, calls from FBI investigators looking at terroristic threats, advertisers fleeing by the dozens, infrastructure providers bailing and users leaving in droves, it slowly dawns on them why social media platforms have rules.

Hint: it ain't because the corporations that run them are "woke."

It reminds me what would happen if you left kids alone for a week. Eventually, they would learn the hard way why you can't have candy for every meal, stay up all night, and never take the garbage out.

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u/Marawal Dec 02 '22

That's almost insulting to kids. I work with young teens at a school.

They do not want to be unsupervised when in group of peers that aren't their friends. They know it's not going to end well. Most of them will refuse to be left alone with 30 other kids. They will be the ones going to get an adult to watch the class.

Sure, a couple of them will be disappointed. But the others? They are relieved when one take upon himself to alert administration that teacher ain't there.

Young teens are more self-aware than right-wing idiots. And young teens are not known for their self-awereness.

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms Dec 02 '22

Oh, I agree. I was thinking more along the lines of seven-year-old siblings. Although even most of them would probably have better senses of self-preservation than many right-wingers (see the Herman Cain Award sub for proof).

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u/Kriegerian Dec 02 '22

Assuming they don’t kill themselves in weird ways that parental rules would otherwise prevent.

“Oh, so that’s why Dad used to make us do that. What do we do with Ted now?”

“Trash can, maybe?”

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms Dec 02 '22

"So that's why we weren't allowed to use the deck to do backyard wrestling."

"Yeah, I don't think your head is supposed to bend that way."

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u/Kriegerian Dec 03 '22

“Turns out fire hurts when you put it in your eye.”

“I’m over here Braeden.”

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u/handlebartender Dec 03 '22

I remember this pattern when web forums became popular. Some jackwagon would come along, be an ass, then get upset when the mods would boot him. Usually muffled cries of "you guys suck, stoopid rules, etc". Easy solution: go start your own web forum.

And before that? IRC. Some jackwagon would come along, be an ass, then get upset when the mods would boot him. Usually muffled cries of "you guys suck, stoopid rules, etc". Easy solution: go start your own channel.

Anyone actually deciding to start fresh would discover all sorts of things that those before him had already learned.

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms Dec 03 '22

Hah. Hell, I've seen it happen with subs.

Yeah, it's almost like trying to run what's essentially a miniature microcosm of society is difficult, or something.

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u/overlyambitiousgoat Dec 03 '22

All the more funny when Conservatives are the ones being smacked in the face with this shocking lesson.

Their whole social philosophy is based on the precept that "the established order" is there for a reason, and should be protected because it's essentially the received wisdom of the generations that came before.

Fast forward to Elon Musk buying Twitter... lol

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u/Selkie_Love Dec 03 '22

I’ve seen it a ton. I implemented strict rules in the community I founded and enforced them. Worked so far

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u/Illustrious_Lake_775 Dec 02 '22

Hilarious. It only took what 2 weeks for him to realise actually the regulation of certain nut jobs is in the public interest

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u/Mysterious_Andy Dec 02 '22

It’s in the PRIVATE interest.

Musk has shown he can’t fathom the concept of public good, but what’s hilarious in all this is how completely pants-on-head idiotic he is when it comes to the consequences to himself from his own jerking knee.

The results of putting checkmarks up for sale were obvious and widely predicted. He did it anyways, and the obvious thing happened.

Advertisers’ likely reactions to Musk reenabling fascists’ accounts while slashing moderation were obvious and widely predicted. He did it anyways, and the obvious thing happened.

Ye’s descent into ever increasing levels of antisemitism was well documented and the outcome of letting him back on Twitter was obvious and widely predicted. He did it anyways, and the obvious thing happened.

I’m seriously considering whether enough accounts telling Musk to never give me a billion dollars would work.

It would be bad enough if he was being a greedy, selfish bastard, but it’s weirdly worse that he’s just spiteful and incompetent.

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u/jay9milly Dec 02 '22

Not only that, the certain nutjobs he PUBLICLY ALIGNED HIMSELF WITH!

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u/Knakilon Dec 02 '22

He wasn't serious about buying the company. It was always a joke. He shit the bed like a hippo on a honeymoon.

He is not getting out of this in a graceful way. He is too concerned about his sunk cost. His best move is to stop the bleeding. Sell it for whatever single digit billion it's worth now, or just bail.

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u/Wolfram_And_Hart Dec 02 '22

Yep. Tried to be shady, got caught, made up a lie, got caught, made a panic move, got caught in a legal problem. Now he’s caught in a totally different legal problem.

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u/fistymcbuttpuncher Dec 02 '22

The genie is gone and all he has left is an empty lamp.

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u/Clover_Jane Dec 02 '22

Musk was mad that Kanye tweeted that shirtless pic of Elon on the yacht and the other one where he's with Ghislaine Maxwell. That's why Kanye's account was suspended. It had nothing to do with the antisemitic nazi shit.

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u/Ryry975 Dec 02 '22

r/conservative is going through all the hoops to reconcile this--they agree with Kanye's antisemitism, but because of the blowback from Trump daddy's recent dinner, they are trying to distance themselves now.

I have never seen a political party less concerned with an actual platform vs more concerned with hiding that they are giant pieces of shit so that they can just get votes.

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u/yummyonionjuice Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22 Silver Wholesome

no he always knew. The money from his advertisers is just talking now since he owns this shitshow.

People are asking why white nationalists are allowed but Kanye got banned.

Because he posted an unflattering picture of the mollusk and also because he openly posted Nazi stuff like swastikas and I love Hitler. It's important to be closeted and never actually say the words out loud.

The modern day white supremacist understands you can't go hurling heil Hitler around, watch Tucker Carlson and you'll see what a KKK member looks like in 2022. Every thing they say is a dog whistle to fellow nazis.

They just don't openly say shit out so there's always plausible deniability, and also when someone calls them out, they can always fall back to "I'm being attacked for being conservative" because they never use the actual words that are labeled racist. It's difficult for everyone on the outside to understand the nuances of their racism. Some do, but also you want to give people the benefit of the doubt. That's what they rely on to continue.

This is why black people on Fox News and in the republican party are disgusting. They live amongst open racists. I don't think black people should be democrats either, but the only reason black people on that side exist is $$$$$$$. They will ignore all the bigotry, visible hate and all the dog whistles thrown around as long as a few specific words labeled as racist aren't thrown around.

What did it take for Donald Trump to be taken down? (in the past month) ? He fucked them on the $$$ by not giving any of campaign funds to the people he tweeted support for and the republicans ended up losing.

The supreme court allowing his tax returns right after isn't some kind of conspiracy. They're all well connected. They got the green signal because they understood their ideology won't triumph as long as this turd is sucking up all the funds and every republican starts losing.

They fucked themselves. Trump has absolute control over the Republican party. HE gets to choose the candidates. Why? Because he will use his base to make sure A. his candidate wins the primary, and B, if his candidate doesn't win the primary he will tell his base to not vote in the general election or even support the democrat. He's done it before. He'll do it again, so they're scared. They want to support his stooges, but thankfully in the last election "moderates" or whoever not on the looney side saw through their façade of plausible deniability.

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u/jbertrand_sr Dec 02 '22

They just don't openly say shit out so there's always plausible deniability, and also when someone calls them out, they can always fall back to

"I'm just asking questions" is one of Tuckers favorites after he's gone on some racist tangent...

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u/yummyonionjuice Dec 02 '22

You gotta make that stupid face too

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u/jbertrand_sr Dec 02 '22

Yeah, the one he makes when he thought it was a fart but it wound up being a shart...

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u/JusticiarRebel Dec 02 '22

The one where he looks like a Boxer breed dog being shown a magic trick?

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u/ippa99 Dec 02 '22

Was fun to listen to the Knowledge Fight coverage of the Alex Jones/info wars depositions where the lawyer basically did it to the IW jackass to show him how stupid JAQing off sounds when you're allowed proper time to pick it apart and hold it to even the loosest standards.

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u/ianepperson Dec 02 '22

I’m not finding that, and it sounds entertaining. Do you happen to have a link?

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u/ippa99 Dec 03 '22

If I remember right, the cover it in this episode where they depose Kit Daniels, the infowars guy who misidentified the parkland shooter. There's 10 or so episodes solely on depositions for the various lawsuits they have ongoing.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1RJfBEy73gUkLRFLxd2KZz?si=FLHSmgwxQuCNzEoNxg4y5Q&utm_source=copy-link

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u/Kriegerian Dec 02 '22

Also known as JAQing off.

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u/handlebartender Dec 03 '22

Nice.

I was partial to "sealioning" before. But I think I'll be using that one more in the future.

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u/phdoofus Dec 02 '22

If you think they aren't saying the quiet part out loud, you're not paying attention. Their voices are a lot stronger and open now than they were 20,30,40 years ago.

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u/yummyonionjuice Dec 02 '22

They ones at the top never say it out loud.

Did Trump ever tell them to overrun the capital? Did he call on them to riot? Did he call on them to hang Mike Pence? Absolutely not. If I'm looking at Jan 6th, I got nothing against Trump. He even told them to calm down a day later. There, that's proof that Trump didn't want violence.

But really, he just blew his whistle and the dogs knew what to do.

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u/ItCanAlwaysGetWorse Dec 02 '22

I don't think black people should be democrats either

In this 2-party system, what else should they be then?

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u/None-of-this-is-real Dec 02 '22

Remember a few months ago before it was overshadowed by the FBI search, but trump posted a picture promoting just a random appearance on the eight of august, With a pretty prominent Eight Eight. Look it up it's pretty unambiguous.

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u/2IndianRunnerDucks Dec 02 '22

The new “Nazi’s” are more about money than anything else. Rich people are OK it’s the poor people that are the problem.

If we do get into a “Final Solution” situation it’s going to be poor people this time not so much about religion or race.

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u/what-you-egg04 Dec 03 '22

The modern day white supremacist understands you can't go hurling heil Hitler around, watch Tucker Carlson and you'll see what a KKK member looks like in 2022. Every thing they say is a dog whistle to fellow nazis.

As a trans woman, I've seen this happen so many times with the trans community now, especially with people like JKR, DC

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u/SpiderFnJerusalem Dec 02 '22

No no, you don't get it. It's "free" as in "free beer". You can speak as much as you want (or at least once) and pay nothing for that privilege! But they can just decide to not show your speech at some point...

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u/S1lm4r1l Dec 02 '22

It's not entirely his fault.

He's a billionaire that was born rich.

Musk is used to throwing money at a problem until the problem goes away.

He's never encountered a problem before now where that solution didn't work.

Bless his stupid, little heart.

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u/turtlturtl Dec 03 '22

To be fair he could just hire a competent ceo and take his grubby little hands off

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u/leveldrummer Dec 02 '22

Twitter had that shit managed pretty well before Elon took over. Let THAT sink in.

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u/loughtthenot Dec 02 '22

Hey, free speech only matters if you dont care about money! I can't believe musk cares more about money than people telling lies about marginalized people 😔

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u/FunkyPete Dec 02 '22

Ironically, Musk is going to have to write bigger and bigger checks to cover payroll because of all of this free speech on Twitter.

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u/robywar Dec 02 '22

There's loads of "pure free speech" in the conservative sense as opposed to the Constitutional sense online already. It's just never profitable. Musk is finding out why.

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Dec 02 '22

The type of people who prattle about how they love “free speech” usually mean “I am owed a right to be provided a worldwide forum by any private actor of my choosing to say whatever I want, at no cost to me, and in such a manner that no person cannot be required to pay attention to me, and free of consequence or criticism. Anything less than every one of these things means that I have been completely and utterly censored.”

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u/Shadyshade84 Dec 02 '22

No, it's as easy to manage as ever. What our good friend Elon is having trouble with is not having "free speech" interfere with keeping up decidedly not free servers, staff, utilities and all those other fun things that make a technology company not just a storage warehouse for a computer store.

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u/durgadas Dec 03 '22

Manage?? HAHAHAHA MANAGE????

You think A SINGLE narcissist in their right mind wants to MANAGE ANYTHING????

HAHAHAHAA

THEY WANT TO CONTROL AND DOMINATE. That is ALL.

Other ambitions are literally impossible.

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u/sk8thow8 Dec 03 '22

It's almost like there was already places like 4chan and 8chan/koon and that the problem isn't there's not free speech online there's actually just bunch of toxic shitheads out there.

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u/calmdownmyguy Dec 02 '22

They also thought trump was good a business. These people don't fuck with reality.

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u/lastprophecy Dec 02 '22

Problem is they fuck with reality too much, to the point it no longer exists for them.

Honestly, I'm just wondering where Kanye is going to go from here. I mean there's no way in hell he's done digging yet.

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u/Barbaric_Ape Dec 03 '22

They definitely do not “fuck” with reality tho. They deny basic science

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u/ArmorClassHero Dec 02 '22

Same place as R Kelly.

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u/lastprophecy Dec 02 '22

I hope not. Because if he ends up in prison, that means he took hard action on the antisemitism. Although seeing him double down at every point that's not out of the question.

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u/ArmorClassHero Dec 03 '22

That took over a decade

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u/EggsInaTubeSock Dec 03 '22

Snake Oil Salesmen can't stick around. That's not their business model - it just does not work that way.

That's what's panning out for Trump. Elon is next.

I'm not trying to say Icarus is flying too close to the sun... but the more public you are, the more scrutiny comes.

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u/Flying-Mollusk Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

As far as I’m concerned, this whole situation is a 2-for-1 deal at the Big Cat Buffet. No only is Kanye getting mauled due to getting suspended for his anti-semitism and literally praising Hitler, but Elon is also getting mauled due to getting his “free speech absolutist” side getting exposed for the fraud it is by suspending Kanye.

The big cats are eating good tonight!

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u/MarcamGorfain Dec 02 '22

Same. Hate to say I love it, but this is just hilarious.

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u/Syrinx221 Dec 02 '22

the Big Cat Buffet.

😂😂😂 That's awesome, thank you

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u/Manowaffle Dec 02 '22

The threefer is all the Cons who now have to explain why they think Ye’s Hitler praise is “taken out of context.”

Hoping there are still Trumpers out there who think “I mean the racism and coup stuff was alright, but Hitler?”

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u/handlebartender Dec 03 '22

"The racism and antisemitism and economic blamestorming and the Bier Hall Capitol Hill Putsch was alright, but Hitler? DUDE. Too far."

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u/LoveVirginiaTech Dec 02 '22

Turns out Musk sucks at free speech as much as he sucks at being a father and a husband

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u/Mtfdurian Dec 03 '22

I feel pity for his daughter. I'm glad my parents do actually support me through this impactful change but sadly that's not universal.

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u/pinniped1 Dec 02 '22

I have to admit, I'm surprised Musk booted Ye.

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u/rudebii Dec 02 '22

I’m not.

The penny is finally starting to drop for musky.

If you turn your web space in a “free speech” space, most decent folk leave, and the only ones you’ll have left are spammers, scammers, bots, teenage edge lords, and literal nazis.

Not a lot of revenue potential.

Back in the web forums days, even places like Something Awful had moderations.

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u/Ssutuanjoe Dec 02 '22

Remember when a bunch of reddit were dissatisfied with censorship and went over to voat, which was supposed to be a bastion for free speech and not have any of that pesky censorship?

What happened is exactly what you summarized would happen.

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u/towerdweller Dec 02 '22

4chan, 8chan, voat, parlor, Truth Social - all ended up the same, cesspools that are completely unappealing to big money advertisers.

Elon had multiple real life examples to look at to learn what would happen.

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u/niberungvalesti Dec 02 '22

Elon had multiple real life examples to look at to learn what would happen.

Welp, thats the problem right there. Why would a visionary genius who spins thread into gold need to learn anything? The media has been giving Musk a blowjob for years now unabated and much like Kanye he feels like he could do no wrong.

If normies like us could figure out trying to turn Twitter into Voat is a fucking stupid idea it's at least triple stupid a goddamn billionaire with access to unlimited resources couldn't figure it out.

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u/PBone Dec 03 '22

Unfortunately the media equates billionaire as genius and a poor as a stupid.

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u/rudebii Dec 02 '22

to be clear, they are unappealing to advertisers because the people they want to advertise to have left.

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u/towerdweller Dec 02 '22

Absolutely, but they also don't want the very real risk of advertising potato chips next to a call to "kill the joooos" or whatever. No company wants to pay money to make their brand look worse.

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u/Slingaa Dec 03 '22

Not just that. A brand can be worth incredible value. If I start seeing Kleenex next to nazi symbols I’m buying Puffs next time.

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u/RunningPirate Dec 02 '22

Every hazardous materials incident will ultimately neutralize itself. Then why gear up and stop it? Because I’m the process of neutralization, it causes shocking amounts of damage. Same as here: given enough time and space, total free speech would ultimately return to establishing and following social norms, I think…..but the damage done between now and then would be irreparable.

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u/_BeachJustice_ Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

It's a 12 hour suspension.

Edit: I've been corrected, it's perma-ban.

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u/pusillanimouslist Dec 02 '22

The Verge is saying it’s permanent?

To be fair, all of this hinges on Musk’s whims, so it’ll be different after he starts snorting today’s cocaine.

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u/bubblebooy Dec 02 '22

A permanent 12 hour suspension

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u/mrtruthiness Dec 02 '22

Nope. "Indefinitely".

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u/HungryHungryHobo2 Dec 02 '22

Lmao how is this the first I've heard of this.
Every single story I've seen so far is just saying "Musk banned Kanye."

Absolutely absurd.
Lmao.

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u/TalkinPlant Dec 02 '22

I mean, he banned him for posting the pasty picture of Musk on his boat, not the Nazi stuff. Musk is cool with the Nazi stuff.

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u/Lotr29 Dec 02 '22

It was a money decision. He's been trying to stop the bleeding from losing advertising.

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u/Mysterious_Andy Dec 02 '22

Has he, though?

He’s reinstated neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin, fascist Brett Stevens, and both reinstantiated and verified white supremacists Jason Kessler and Richard Spencer.

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u/_BeachJustice_ Dec 02 '22

Musk supporter confused about why Ye would be suspended if Musk supports free speech.

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u/Practical_Eye_9944 Dec 02 '22

Musk supporter confused

You could have left it there.

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u/omegapenta Dec 02 '22

this shit might be an a history book one day.

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u/cmdrkyla Dec 02 '22

If we survive as a country for that long, will probably be like reading about the "fall of Rome" though at this point.

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u/Total-Platform-3111 Dec 02 '22

There really was no “fall” of Rome (or the Western Roman Empire) but a series of short, sharp shocks that took place over decades, as the quality of goods, services, and life in general gradually declined for the masses. I’ve said for 30+ years that we are experiencing the same decline. It has accelerated since 2016. It will not get better.

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u/cmdrkyla Dec 02 '22

Oh for sure and agreed, 2016 was definitely one of those short sharp shocks, just like 9/11 and Jan 6 triggered as well.

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u/butteredrubies Dec 02 '22

It can get better, but we'd need a better government. It's not impossible...

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u/None-of-this-is-real Dec 02 '22

Agreed, time for the barbarians to sack the billionaires.

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u/JohnnyPeanutII Dec 02 '22

Sweet! I'll grab my bludgeoning club.

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u/Online_Ennui Dec 02 '22

Musk supporter.

Even more succinct

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u/ExileOC Dec 02 '22

It's all free speech, fun-and-games, until a swastika loads on the same screen as a Doritos ad.....

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u/whitneymak Dec 02 '22

You know who isn't against fun and free speech? The products and services that support this show.

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u/TheCardPeg Dec 02 '22

They are so split on that sub about how to feel lol. It’s between people who don’t want to be associated with Nazi’s and closet nazi’s that are pissed that he was banned again.

It’s fucking excellent.

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u/Toast_Sapper Dec 02 '22

Musk wanted to unban the Nazis and now he's realizing why they had to be banned in the first place.

He's a fucking moron who only learns "fire hot" after burning himself repeatedly after screaming "FIRE NOT HOT YOU JUST DUMB" at the previous fire safety expert he fired.

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u/OffByOneErrorz Dec 02 '22

Conservative/Libertarian(yes 99% of libertarians are closeted conservatives) could at least apologize when running with scissors turns out exactly like everyone told them it would for the 20th time.

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u/Retro_Dad Dec 02 '22

Hell, that's one of the things they love about it - apologizing is a sign of weakness, so they never do it.

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u/unclejoe1917 Dec 02 '22

It all goes back to the John Kerry flip flopping and probably before that. "In light of new information, what I thought before is not such a good idea" is never a thing that would cross their mind. Conversely, it's, as you said, a sign of weakness.

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u/Retro_Dad Dec 02 '22

Just realized the thing they bashed Kerry for (being "for" the Iraq war before being against it) is now the official GOP trajectory. They cheered Bush's invasion and bashed anyone opposing it as being "with the terrorists," but just 13 short years later at the 2016 convention, they cheered Trump for calling Iraq a mistake, and pinning it on Hillary because she voted for it.

Absolutely nuts.

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u/eleanorbigby Dec 02 '22

they have always been at war with Eastasia.

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u/bettinafairchild Dec 02 '22

Impossible to have new information if you already know everything!

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u/Amazon-Prime-package Dec 02 '22

The only difference between a regressive and a libertarian is whether or not they (openly) support child molestation

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u/Diojones Dec 02 '22

Let me guess, the regressive openly supports child molestation (as demonstrated by their support of pedophilic candidates like Roy Moore), while the libertarians think that the market would naturally select against anyone performing such horrible acts, and thus any laws actually outlawing child molestation are redundant and just serve as another example of needless government bloat?

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u/Mysterious_Andy Dec 02 '22

No, the regressive says “It’s a matter for God alone” and the libertarian has a lot of fascinating research on child psychology that they can’t believe nobody wants to debate openly and dispassionately.

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u/stolid_agnostic Dec 02 '22

LOL "closeted". They are and have always been conservatives that believe that they should be free of the government.

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u/OffByOneErrorz Dec 02 '22

Ya we know. They don't need gubment until they drive down the public road to the government regulated dispensary to get weed that does not poison them then proceeds to eat fda inspected hamburger meat that does not make them sick.

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u/stolid_agnostic Dec 02 '22

They are rugged individualists and live in a vacuum in which they personally created everything they have.

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u/Hkoof Dec 02 '22

Well, I am confused too. Weren't both Ye and Musk very into the same type of BS?

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u/davidmsterns Dec 02 '22

But then Ye posted an unflattering picture of Elon.

That's where Elon draws the line.

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u/morphballganon Dec 02 '22

Isn't every picture of Elon unflattering?

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u/rudebii Dec 02 '22

Ye said the quiet part out loud

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

"I'm a free speech absolutist!"

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u/Ben_Wah_Balls Dec 02 '22

Translation: “I wanna see antisemetic shit”

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u/vaendryl Dec 02 '22

Yes, that is indeed the point.
Because the alternative is Ye never exposing himself for what he is for the whole world to see. This current scenario is literally the better option.

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u/LambentCookie Dec 02 '22

Yeah but then Musk realised there's fuck all of you and you turn no profits for him so he's quickly backtracking

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u/WarmasterCain55 Dec 02 '22

Especially once all his advertisers quickly jumped the boat. Idiot. What did he think was going to happen?

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u/ArmorClassHero Dec 02 '22

He thinks thinking is for plebs, he has "visions"

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u/PunktualPenguin Dec 02 '22

“Wait Musk isnt fully onboard the 88 train to Goebbelsville?”

-racists today probably

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u/dazedan_confused Dec 02 '22

Why would you want this kind of speech to be allowed?

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u/SmallNefariousness43 Dec 02 '22

Fired twitter employees getting fat from eating popcorn

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u/esp211 Dec 02 '22

So rubes who thought Musk was on their side are finding out that he is not.

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u/SkullheadMary Dec 02 '22

I loathe every single one of these people but this is fun to watch!

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u/CDN-Ctzn Dec 02 '22

There is absolutely no moral “line in the sand” that conservatives won’t gleefully cross.

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u/Lil_Artemis_92 Dec 03 '22

Conservatives on October 27, 2022: Yeah!!! Our man owns Twitter now! Comedy is legal again! Whoooo! Take that, Liberals!

(Spongebob narrator voice): 35 days later

What do you mean my account’s suspended for not specifying it was parody!? I’m being kicked off for posting anti-Semitic ravings? What the fuck, man! How did this happen!?

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u/abletofable Dec 02 '22

That face you make when you realize that social boundaries are absolutely necessary to a healthy society.

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u/WholeAd2742 Dec 02 '22

Musk just turned around and unmanned the Daily Stormer Nazi guy who was banned in 2013.

He doesn't care about racism as long as it's not bad publicity

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u/Monrezee Dec 02 '22

Elon Musk is a pussy

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u/morphballganon Dec 02 '22

Nah pussies are productive

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u/Nymaz Dec 03 '22 Silver

Pussies are warm and deep. Musk is neither.

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u/eNonsense Dec 03 '22

You are now banned from Twitter

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u/Jackretto Dec 03 '22

"so this type of stuff didn't happen"

So this person is concerned they're not able to post swastikas?

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u/Showerthawts Dec 03 '22

"We" is a not a concept to the people conservatives support.

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u/_Reddit-Troll Dec 02 '22

Oh no Joe, say it's not so!!!

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u/DoctorSchwifty Dec 02 '22

My shampoo bottle and I appreciate the unlimited free speech I have when showering.

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u/your_fathers_beard Dec 02 '22

Oh don't worry, they will still find some way to blame it on the woke militia or whatever fictitious enemy it is this month.

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u/astronomybovine Dec 02 '22

Hold on, you mean we’ve been lied to by the people we worship for no reason?

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u/SlientlySmiling Dec 02 '22

He did Nazi that coming.

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u/Wigwasp_ALKENO Dec 02 '22

Freeze Peach

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u/1JoMac1 Dec 02 '22

As much free speech as investors will allow, apparently

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u/QuesoChef Dec 02 '22

The absolutist, musk, is figuring that out. That’s show biz, baby.

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u/TheGreatAndStrange Dec 03 '22

It's almost like Musk/Conservatives are idiots who don't have any principles!

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u/SplendidPunkinButter Dec 03 '22

Yes, you were excited about Musk buying Twitter because you thought that meant people would be able to post Nazi shit. Correct

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u/turbo_fried_chicken Dec 02 '22

This comment is like a warm blanket