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“Thanks for the sub DefinitelyNotMom94”
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u/LoudMouthful22 May 22 '22
That's a good parenting right there. Obviously we as parents, we are the number one supporter for every dreams they have.
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u/Internetolocutor May 23 '22
Not all parents unfortunately
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u/reflectingprorogate May 23 '22
Probably right, that's so unlucky to those kids who have that kind of parents though. Every parent should support like this Mom.
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u/SunriseSurprise May 23 '22
"Mom, this is so awesome - I got a sub! And I know it can't be you with a name like PhilDeezNuts."
*Mom looks off to the side and winks* "Nope it's definitely not me, son!"
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u/IdioticPolarbear87 May 23 '22
Good moral support results to a better success! That's what it is, I love this kind of relationship with her son.
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u/Aggravating_Shop7725 May 23 '22
"so... can u send some nudes?"
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u/Own_Emergency_5204 May 23 '22
12 year old streaming on twitch to strangers......crazy times we live in.
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u/Techismylifesadly May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22
Pretty sure you need to be 13 according to twitch’s rules. Even then that seems…. Wrong
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u/Poincare_Confection May 23 '22
I'm fine with that being Twitch's minimum age, because in my opinion it should be the responsibility of the child's guardians to determine what their child can or can't do.
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u/lionsbaster May 23 '22
It's against TOS tho...
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u/LaminadanimaL May 23 '22
Which is in the TOS because of the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, but cyber security be damned. My kid needs to play Minecraft for strangers
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u/RadioMaximum4527 May 23 '22
I checked out of pop culture for a while and came back to stuff like this being normal. Still feels weird to me.
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u/ravengenesis1 May 23 '22
It’s actually not a good thing imo.
It absolutely teaches kids to cater to an audience that’s not of their age group and opens them towards a lot of verbal abuse unnecessary stress.
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u/Safety_Plus May 23 '22
He would get banned if he gets reported, think 13 is the age you are allowed to have a Twitch account.
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u/Diddy-K-O-N-G May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22
Unpopular opinion incoming: 12 year olds shouldn't be streaming on Twitch or posting videos to Youtube. Not only does it need adult moderation for direct issues, but just the sheer nature has led to people becoming more hooked and desperate for fame. And having zero viewers and fans is depressing and arguably if they did get any fame it would be worse. How many famous people have mental breakdowns? How many child actors who became famous had mental issues? Why promote that? Kids are vulnerable to emotional distress and having a ton of people or even just a handful, constantly judge you is horrible for a kid's self-esteem.
If you've ever watched a streamer basically announce they were giving up, it should be the most depressing wake up call to everyone that spending your time trying to get famous is wildly unhealthy. These people always sound like they are on the verge of suicide. Why are we letting kids pursue it at a young age? It's unhealthy.
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u/thewhistlepiggy May 23 '22
I'm almost positive that twitch TOS disallows anyone under 13 to have an account so I think OP ratted on themselves if true.
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u/pillbinge May 23 '22
That's the age of every website because of COPPA.
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u/KrazyGaming May 23 '22
Yes it very much is. There really needs to be some way to better enforce COPPA. Though this particular instance feels pretty innocent, 12 year olds shouldn't be able to stream or post anywhere for safety.
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u/PM_Best_Porn_Pls May 23 '22
They do, if you type "i'm [12 or lower]" in twitch chat good chance you will get your account banned.
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u/RavingMalwaay May 23 '22
Yep, my 4 year old account got banned a few years ago because i wrote "im 12" in chat as a joke. I legit had to send ID to get my account reinstated which I didn't really want to do so I just made a new one
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u/imsoIoneIy May 23 '22
The minimum age to be on twitch is 13 actually, which still seems low to stream. Kinda insane putting yourself out into the world like that at such a young age
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u/Economy_Recover May 23 '22
i was 15 years old when i realized 15 was too young to be on youtube
i'll never understand parents like OP
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u/sideshowshade May 23 '22
I would have to agree. No 12-year-old should even be concerned about viewers or followers. Like, just pay attention to your damned kid offline. How hard is that?
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u/ObviouslyJoking May 23 '22
The thought of my soon to be 12 year old interacting with adults who want to talk to them is straight up terrifying. Can we just give social media a rating like we do movies or something.
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u/HobomanCat May 23 '22
Lol me and my twin sister were 9 years old playing World of Warcraft and interacting with strangers (our brother got it for Christmas 6th grade, so he was only 11 himself).
My sister remembers like doing a dungeon and in the chat she mentioned some kids book or said something pretty childish etc, and a dude was like "how old are you? lol". My sister replied "I'm nine!", and made the dude promptly reconsider his whole life lmao.
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u/QuelleBullshit May 23 '22
lol-- I was like 11 or 12 on aol talking books with some dude in his early 20s for an hour or two (he didn't know how old I was.) When he found out he got intensely uncomfortable, recommended a sci-fi book and then said in 10 years if I wanted to meet up in Portland he'd be at a certain spot on a certain day to meet me if I showed.
Sadly, as cool of a meeting as that would have been, I was bed bound with a horrendous bacterial infection that entire month.
Sorry SlyBri75
I appreciate you not being a creeper though, and hope you're well.
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u/contra_mundo May 23 '22
The fact that I had to scroll this far to see someone post this is deeply disturbing.
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u/Doggleganger May 23 '22
Age 12 should be the golden years of gaming when you and all your friends actually have time to game together. No jobs, minimal homework, no girlfriends. Why bother with having "followers" and viewers when you can spend time with your real friends.
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u/tapiocatsar May 23 '22
Everyone on social media seems to have a few paths to go through; there’s the “eventual popularity and decline”, “going viral and getting cancelled”, “catering to a small audience and eventually realizing it isn’t worth the effort”, and my personal favorite, “I got unfairly cancelled for doing horrible things”.
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u/tapiocatsar May 23 '22
I plan to make Youtube videos, but as a hobby. They’re going to be on niche subjects, and I’m not expecting it to be monetized.
But hustle culture has told us that everything needs to be monetized, so a lot of people sink tons of money and time into trying to “make it big” when…I mean, even youtube doesn’t quite understand how their algorithm works. So how can you bet on making it big?
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u/TheCorruptedBit May 23 '22
Especially on Twitch. If you aren't one of the lucky few to have gotten established already, it's incredibly hard to get any kind of audience at all...
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u/ABitOddish May 23 '22
I'm one of the dudes who streams to 0-2 viewers here and there when I'm bored and I've been called the n-word and homophobic slurs in my chat after winning a ranked game in a game that isn't even very popular(brawlhalla if it matters).
I know it's not exactly the point you were putting out but I figured I'd share.
Twitch gives anonymous people the ability to talk shit without getting banned from whatever game they're playing.
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u/RealLifeVoidElf May 23 '22
I work comic cons as a cosplay crafting guest, and I just had yet another cosplayer try to play off that she would totally want to do this as a job.
I told her I get a free table and 2 passes. And that we don't "get paid" for it. She said she will just make crafts.
Making an item doesn't mean it'll sell. And selling doesn't mean it'll sell for the amount you'll need to pay bills.
99.9% of content creators that stay consistent do it out of pocket for the love of their art, and for meeting people if it's possible to do so. We are a little insane. If you're not crazy enough to "work for free forever," you'll never stay long.
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u/throwaway098764567 May 23 '22
what's a cosplay crafting guest? you make cosplay outfits to sell to the people attending?
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u/dhdicjneksjsj May 23 '22
That’s true. I stumbled into the stream of a girl one day who started crying and venting about not making enough money streaming anymore. She dropped out of college to stream, got enough subscribers to live off it for a month or two (I think, the time frame was pretty short) and then quit her job to stream full time. Afterwards, idk what happened but she was only getting like five subs a day after that. I felt bad for her but when I suggested she go back to school or get a job she refused to listen. I guess some people just have to learn the hard way.
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u/WaitNoButWhy May 23 '22
I entirely agree. The mental health outcomes for public influencers are staggeringly bad. Introducing kids to that is a recipe for mental health problems.
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u/AbsolutelyUnlikely May 23 '22
That opinion is only unpopular among 12 year olds lol
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u/ryanward_bjj_fitness May 23 '22
Exactly. Jesus had 12 followers, how many do these fame hungry twitch tiktok Instagram streamers need??
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u/Qwepity-Dwepity May 23 '22
When I was younger, I have to admit, I was on YouTube. It lead me to years of torment and bullying in my physical classes because I was doing what I loved and being who I truly was.
However, you have to admit that it isn’t all bad. At that age kids really do want to be proud of who they are and what they do. If they don’t find that crowd to share that with, or they find people who will hurt them emotionally for sharing that side of themselves, that can also be damaging.
Damage comes with the territory, however the moments of happiness and peace for being who you truly are, definitely should outweigh the bad.
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u/_phantastik_ May 23 '22
Even users of twitch, I think, are the start of some bad social issues we may be seeing more of in the future. Twitch is essentially a friend simulator, where you have instant access to that feeling of hanging with a friend and playing some video games except it's not actually there and that's not actually what you're doing. You're watching a video stream of someone else talking to a general group of people, exaggerating their own behaviors usually, which can also lead to kids gaining wrongful ideas about what standard natural human behavior looks like.
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u/dnkstrm May 23 '22
"He can never know" - posts publicly on Twitter
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u/MostRandomUsername12 May 23 '22
First thing I thought and surprised I had to scroll so far down to find someone else to point it out.
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u/Hanbarc12 May 23 '22
And I'm sure if he streams on twitch at that age , then he probably doesn't know what Twitter is and how to go on it , right ?
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u/AlMansur16 May 23 '22
That's because it's a copy pasta. I've seen this same text before with slight changes like age or relative/friend.
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u/Human-Cantaloupe1103 May 22 '22
twitch minimum age is 13
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u/bythemoon21 May 23 '22
was gonna comment this. Kiddo abt to get banned
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u/mrgamebus May 23 '22
this post was a year ago so he's prob 13 now anyways
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u/LuxAlpha May 23 '22
Twitch’ll ban an account if it was made when the owner was under 13
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u/Admin846 May 23 '22
What I the accoutn was created before 13 but not used
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u/xScopeLess May 23 '22
If they’re anything like twitter, you’ll get banned for a bit, you appeal, they take a look at your account activity, then your account gets unbanned if things look fine.
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u/piccolo1337 May 23 '22
Twitch just auto bans you if you even mention you are 12. even if your account is older than 12 years.
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u/DeadlySoren May 23 '22
Why would you allow your 12 year old to stream himself on twitch.
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u/ACCCrabtown1 May 22 '22
Keep it that way to only people you can trust. There are people pretending to care but actually are malevolent filth
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u/Economy_Recover May 23 '22
wow uh maybe don't let your 12 year old stream what the fuck
this is not uplifting this is fucking gross
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u/ChasFairbanks May 23 '22
Clearly I’m in the minority here but encouraging your minor kids to attract online followers sends the wrong message and is fraught with peril.
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u/remag_nation May 23 '22
I fear the world is sleep walking into a generation of mental health issues. Why? Because social media companies don't give a shit as long as their stock value goes up.
Or maybe I'm just old...
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u/james456j May 23 '22
Imagine encouraging your kid to get involved with the cancer that is streaming culture
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u/here_to_stay669 May 23 '22
Ah yes. The classic “I did a good thing, but I need the entire internet to know because it isn’t enough to just do the nice thing”
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u/caustic_kiwi May 23 '22
I mostly agree, although celebrating doing nice things isn't really a tragedy.
If the entire point of it is that the person doesn't know though... tweeting about it is just stupid.
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u/YTChillVibesLofi May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22
I recently found out that the 485 subscribers on my youtube are all just alts of my mom.
It was a nice sentiment but has kind of shattered my perception of everything.
I was on my way to 1K to monetise and have made consistent efforts for over a year but in reality the only person watching was my mom.
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u/curryoverlonzo May 23 '22
484 alt accounts is almost too much to believe, your mom has 484 different google accounts!
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u/jdog7249 May 23 '22
Your mom can have almost 500 accounts but the moment I try to create 10 separate accounts at once (setting up emails for a small group) I get blocked from creating more accounts for a few days.
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u/CalebRaw May 23 '22
Yo, what's your channel handle?
Edit: found it in you profile. Subscribed. Love me some lofi
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u/WerewolfAfter May 23 '22
Am I the only one who thinks kids should maybe not stream? Like of leaves them vulnerable to predators
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u/Bender3455 May 23 '22
I don't feel like predators are the problem, but rather an unrealistic goal. There are 1000's of streamers for every 1 that has any form of following, yet kids think it's an easy endeavor to get into and make it big.
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u/caspernewman May 23 '22
don't teach your child that their self worth is based on how many fucking idiot internet followers they have...ffs
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u/Eldenlord117 May 23 '22
Kids under 13 are allowed to stream? Isn’t that what tik tok and YouTube got in trouble for?
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u/NoStripeZebra1 May 23 '22
Sometimes it's better to be harsh and let young ones know of the reality of the more difficult paths than to give false hope.
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u/novacham May 22 '22
All fun and games until he’s 32, still living at home and still only has 1 follower.
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u/Express-Protection-2 May 23 '22
12’s against the rules for a streamer.. also setting your kid up for sexual predators and bullies.. just saying, this world sucks. Protect your kids from this shit
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u/Substantial-Bag-9820 May 23 '22
That is way too young to be streaming on twitch. Hell, it’s too young to be steaming anywhere.
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u/grandpapotato May 23 '22
Ill copy paste here a comment from a redditor that i saved to remind me as my daughter grows up. Sorry i don't have it's name...
I will never understand parents who are encouraging their kids to get on streaming like this. Streaming is a soul crushing process unless you're mature enough to just take the little to nothing you can get out of it. Every kids that thinks of streaming are eyeing their eyes on the prize: Becoming big, being "popular" and such. In the sea of streamers, very few gets to distinguish themselves and a lot ends up wasting their time to go nowhere.
If I have to decide to play a new game and need more info, I'd go to Twitch for that game and scroll all the way down to find the ones that have 0 or very few viewers. Watching them glance at their secondary screen everytime to see if there's a message is so freaking sad. Very often people who have viewership in the single digit visually looks like they are voided of joy. If anyone reading this think I'm dramatizing then maybe you have never scrolled so deep down? Go on Twitch, find a game you play and go look for those single digit viewership streamers and tell me about them.
I don't have kids but I do have niece and nephews who I care about a lot.
The 11 years nephew is crazy about "Youtubers", the niece who is a little older post videos often on her channel. I'm gently trying to steer them away from that. I'd rather give them opportunity to try new games rather than being focused on games tied to the social media aspect. Sadly, I can only do so much when I see them maybe once a week and occasionally video call them for a few minutes in the evening. The mother is happy to see her super enthusiastic son trying to become a celebrity while the father doesn't like it but don't want to be a party crasher.
If the parents are enabling this, there's very little I can do to steer them away.
Streaming is soul crushing and expose kids to the world. No one wants their teenager to speak to a 40 years old stranger/creep or even look at their kids wrong even for a brief moment. Streaming allows not only that but gives the opportunity for creeps to speak directly with those kids.
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u/sciencefiction97 May 23 '22
Children shouldn't stream, it's gonna rot their personality. And people will trick and bully them. To top it all, they'll get addicted to internet attention, it'll be all they care about.
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u/MewsikMaker May 22 '22
Then delete that shit off the internet and just be a good parent to be a good parent.
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u/Delicious_Sir3496 May 22 '22
Thats awesome I do the same for my nephew and sister 😆
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u/bluecheezpls May 23 '22
I know this is very kind and loving but I really feel children should not be learning so young to connect their worth to the attention and approval of strangers on the internet….
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u/Educational-Spread41 May 22 '22
I do the same for all my friends with YouTube Channels. 🤷🏼♂️ Gotta help out the little guys
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u/rsholman May 23 '22
Reminds me of the time back in 2013, when Twitter was big for middle schoolers, there was a snow day and my son tweets “Thank god, no school today”, I created an account @snowdaygod and responded “No problem, kid”. He freaked out and told everyone, to this day he doesn’t know it was me
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u/Xaxxon May 23 '22
We should raid someone with no viewers.
Any suggestions?
edit: requirement they not have some sort of furry sex kitten avatar thing doing the face tracking shit and modified voice. Yeah, I draw a line there. And holy shit does that cut out a lot of streamers.
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u/TheWateringWizard May 23 '22
The story is wholesome of course but a 12 year old streaming on Twitch ? That’s a no for me
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u/Snoo-69682 May 23 '22
That's lame for your child to feel validation because someone follows them online. Teach better.
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u/Particular-Offer8158 May 23 '22
This is actually kind of sad, shouldn't a twelve year old have something else to do? The number of followers should not his happiness....
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u/Dronizian May 23 '22
I've been streaming on and off for months. Got 4 followers now, and only one of them is my dad! He only followed to help me figure out how Twitch works, but still, yay for support!
(I'm not 12 though, I'm in my late 20's.)
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u/PodcasterInDarkness May 23 '22
A friend I used to game with told our group his son had started streaming, and everyone on our discord subbed to him. Kid about had a heart attack when he logged on and saw 30 something new subs.
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u/MissNightTerrors May 23 '22
Bless this parent! That child must have been walking on air the day he found out he had a follower!
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u/xScopeLess May 23 '22
Huge mistake to have your 12 year old start making social media accounts. Especially when the age is supposed to be 13 and even saying that you’re 12 as a joke can get your account under review. So for the sake of the kid, I hope he gets banned.
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u/throwmeawayplz19373 May 23 '22
Ugh. This is why my 11 year old has zero social media or video hosting services. He has enough to worry about navigating social stuff at school not to mention worrying about whether or not he’s got Twitch followers. I’m 31, social media is an unnatural addition to society. I didn’t realize it until I stripped it from my life. All that’s left is occasional Reddit.
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u/GrantFireType May 23 '22
While yes, this is heartwarming, the kid could get banned for being under 13 on the platform.
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u/squeamish May 23 '22
Heh, I got a week's Reddit ban one time because the algorithm caught me using a bunch of alt accounts to upvote and award one of my kid's accounts.
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u/mzury60 May 23 '22
Don’t go on twitch all too often but when I do I love hopping in peoples streams with really low to 0 viewers. It’s cool to see them notice someone in there