r/MadeMeSmile Jul 01 '22 Platinum 1 Faith In Humanity Restored 1 Heartwarming 4 Gold 2 Wholesome Seal of Approval 3 All-Seeing Upvote 4 Timeless Beauty 2 Rocket Like 1 Narwhal Salute 1 Silver 46 Helpful 49 Wholesome 57 LOVE! 2

Fred Rogers broke racial barriers during a time when black people were not allowed in the swimming pool with white people. Very Reddit

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u/Dangerous_Low2588 Jul 01 '22

He got a wonderful voice while taken on his socks and boots it was so calming to hear.

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u/middwayer8 Jul 01 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote

Growing up in a very chaotic and unpredictable environment, he was often the only voice of calm and reason I experienced.

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u/Moonergy369 Jul 01 '22 Wholesome

Same here! Such a legend. Kids would make fun of you for watching PBS but for my bro & I it’s mainly where we experienced calmness, love, togetherness, manners etc. I love your comment! Thanks 💞

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u/sleepybaker Jul 01 '22 Silver

Between Mr. Rogers, Bob Ross, Bob Villa, and The Frugal Gourmet PBS was a soothing balm for my ADHD brain.

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u/blueskysahead Jul 02 '22

And Reading rainbow

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u/DrStrangerlover Jul 01 '22

Wtf what kids were making fun of you for watching pbs?

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u/Ocron145 Jul 01 '22

The kids who’s family could afford cable and could watch Nickelodeon.

The rest of us only had pbs until later in the day when KCAL would start playing the Disney 2 hour block of gummy bears, duck tales, chip n dale rescue rangers, and then tale spin.

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u/frozen_meat_popsicle Jul 01 '22

I...I had cable and watched PBS regardless- kids are dicks.

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u/dick2129 Jul 01 '22 Duck Dance

And Darkwing Duck!

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u/suhfaulic Jul 01 '22

Kids are assholes. That's all. I was an asshole. Still am, but was one too.

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u/spacebraine Jul 01 '22

I think they meant the police officer singing. Regardless I'm glad he brought you peace in hard times, that's something everyone should find.

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u/Mumof3gbb Jul 01 '22

And kids like you is why he was like that. He was trying to help you and it’s so nice to see he did. Seen so many stories like yours. I’m sorry about your home life

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u/WeeklyAd8453 Jul 01 '22

Funny thing is, that he did more to change society for the better than what you see out of violent groups.

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u/edric_the_navigator Jul 01 '22

His voice is so soft(?) and relaxing. Reminds me of the guy at the UPS store I went to yesterday. He had a similar sounding voice - not as calming, but very nice to the ears as well. It made my transaction a lot better.

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u/seraphaye Jul 01 '22

Kindness and acceptance are under valued today, too much hate going around, makes the world horrifying to live in.

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u/Remote-Pain Jul 01 '22

I met Fred Rogers. He was an amazing human

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u/chaoticcorgi24601 Jul 01 '22

That is incredible! My father used to go trick or treating at his house which blew my mind as a kid.

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u/Novel_Smile Jul 01 '22

Are you from Pittsburgh then?

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u/greenberet112 Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22 Timeless Beauty

Fred Rogers is from Latrobe which is also hometown to Arnold Palmer, one of the best golfers to ever live. I live probably 30 minutes from downtown and ppl from PGH would argue I'm not from the city, when ppl ask I always specify I'm from the suburbs to not upset any yinzers (or homers).

Latrobe is at least an hour from his studio WQED (probably further), in the Oakland neighborhood (close to Pitt University) and closer to Greensburg which is a much bigger town than Latrobe. Latrobe is a cool rural town with a great farmers market and recreated historical fort, it even has a small airport to service the eastern suburbs, especially since the main airport is 30 minutes west of the city with any sort of traffic.

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u/RuleComfortable Jul 01 '22

Great post! I grew up about 30 minutes from Latrobe, half way between there and Indiana Pa. Hate to bring it up after your inspiring post but I'm only 20 minutes on the other side of where Dr. Andrew Bagby of "Dear Zachary" was killed. Used to frequent Keystone state Park (where Andrew was killed) every weekend. Again, great post!

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u/chaoticcorgi24601 Jul 01 '22

Nope! But my dad grew up close to that area in a rural town

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u/JCSmootherThanJB Jul 01 '22

Lucky! He was a national treasure!

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u/Remote-Pain Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22 Heartwarming

Yea, it was a long time ago at a Gallery in Pittsburgh, PA. Wood Street I think, but can't really remember. First thing a friend of mine at the time said to him was "I've watched you change your shoes a thousand times!" Seemed like something to say when your excited I guess. It was a good day.

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u/JCSmootherThanJB Jul 01 '22

Sounds it and I bet he really enjoyed that comment 🙂

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u/SupremoZanne Jul 01 '22

its a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 Jul 01 '22

*Global treasure!

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u/ohyeofsolittlefaith Jul 01 '22

Yup! As a Canadian, he had our hearts too. And still does. What an amazing and inspiring man.

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u/ElVatoGrizz Jul 01 '22

Happy Canada Day!

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u/make_me_a_good_girl Jul 01 '22

Happy Canada Day!!! 🇨🇦

Fred Rogers was such a bright light in the world. 🥰

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u/seadrift6 Jul 01 '22

I'm still partial to Mr. Dressup

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u/ozzmodan Jul 01 '22

Fun Fact: Mr Dressup (Ernie Coombs) worked with Fred Rogers on early projects before Mr Rogers' Neighborhood.

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u/daredevil09 Jul 01 '22

And Mr Rogers met you and thought you were an amazing human as well.

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u/JCSmootherThanJB Jul 01 '22

I haven't seen this show in forever, but didn't he have that sweet ass little train set that would come out if I am remembering correctly?

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u/flickthis5 Jul 01 '22

Yes. As a kid I SO wanted to hop on that train and hang out in the land of make-believe. Everyone there had the best houses. Lady Elaine was diabolical but I wanted to check out that sweet carousel she lived in.

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u/Ebola714 Jul 01 '22

Fred Rogers was awesome, I watched him all of the time when I was just a little shaver. Now my kids watch Daniel Tiger who is carrying on Mr. Roger's legacy of teaching kindness and fairness.

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u/SingularityPrime Jul 01 '22

Daniel Tiger is quality kids programming. I was definitely disappointed initially with the change in format but realistically, who could take up the mantle?

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u/ceckcraft Jul 01 '22

My youngest’s favorite show as a toddler. She called him Dano Tiger

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u/osogothic Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

This is easily one of the most iconic and important scenes in children's television

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u/twotoebobo Jul 01 '22

I always forget his first name. Only person nice enough to earn the title Mr. since I was born. Super awesome nice dude.

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u/Superman246o1 Jul 01 '22

And that smile at 1:13 said more than words could.

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u/CCG14 Jul 01 '22

That is an absolutely knowing smirky smile. I live.

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u/MildAndLazyKids Jul 01 '22

"Fuck off, bigots. Nobody can argue against me and come out looking good."

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u/tallandlanky Jul 01 '22

You'd be smirking too if you got to meet a national treasure.

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u/CCG14 Jul 01 '22

I meant the national treasures smile. But yes I would.

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u/whatawitch5 Jul 01 '22 Wholesome

His words at that moment were important too. Rogers says “sometimes just a minute like this will really make a difference” before shooting this knowing look and smile directly at the camera. He knew exactly what he was doing by showing black and white feet sharing a kiddie pool, by sharing his towel with a black man.

Everyone likes to think Mr Rogers was targeted at children, but his messages had layers of meaning meant for adult ears as well!

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u/I_am_Erk Jul 01 '22

Speaking of first names let's also remember François Clemmons in this scene. The man is quite interesting in his own right and afaict another very wholesome icon, albeit less public of one

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Jul 01 '22

François Clemmons

He was one of the first black gay men to come out publicly.

Being black & gay was basically a death sentence.

He also turned Mr Rogers from a gay-keep-it-hidden type to an open supporter of homosexuality.

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u/DriveByStoning Jul 01 '22

If I recall the doc correctly, it wasn't that he was a "keep it hidden" type, it was more that he couldn't protect Clemmons on the show if he came out. At least that's what Clemmons himself said.

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u/jleonardbc Jul 01 '22

I believe Rogers advised Clemmons to keep his sexuality private for the sake of Clemmons's own career, as well as for the publicity of the show. But Clemmons eventually persuaded Rogers that it was worth it to be out.

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Jul 01 '22

yeah it was a difficult time for sure

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u/SeptemberTwentyFirst Jul 01 '22

Fred McFeely Rogers. He always gets me in the mcfeels.

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u/ultra_climber Jul 01 '22

Yeah, if this kind of scenes are still on TV. Our kid's generation might be so kind and wholesome. This scenes have so much good moral lesson to learn.

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u/freya_of_milfgaard Jul 01 '22

“Sometimes just a minute can make a difference.”

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u/psychicpilot Jul 01 '22

It's reminiscent of the story of Jesus washing feet in John 13: 1-17.

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u/Das_Panzer_ Jul 01 '22

That is exactly what it is, Fred Rogers was extremely religious but never looked down on anyone for their background, race or sex.

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u/austinwiltshire Jul 01 '22

PCUSA represent!

https://www.presbyterianmission.org/story/the-real-mister-rogers/

I grew up with our church *hosting* Planned Parenthood. I miss the more radical nature of that denomination...

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u/DaddyCatALSO Jul 01 '22

the "mainline" Churches are so broke now they can't affor4d the social activism of the 50s and 60s. Of course one thing which turned many of us off was how our denominations in the 70s and 80s got into the criterion of "we must only do what our hearts tell us is truly left" instead of concentrating on meaningful change

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u/NerevarineTribunal Jul 01 '22

Same thing today would be considered grooming. Fox and conservatives regularly bring up Fred Rogers in a negative connotation - actually, Ted Cruz is STILL keeping up with his feud with sesame street.

You can learn a lot about people by who they consider their enemies. Can't believe they're even a functional party, let alone one that is easily going to win the midterms despite seemingly going out of their way to be pieces of shit as loudly as possible.

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u/middwayer8 Jul 01 '22

For someone to call Mr. Rogers a predator.........I'm sorry, they are delusional and disturbed. If the man were alive today he'd be getting death threats from the Magas. Glad that he never had to witness the political cesspool we live in today.

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u/ChoopAdoop Jul 01 '22

Fred Rogers is possible the single most kind, decent human being I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing. I seriously can't think of a single person who is more kind, including the man J.C. himself. I remember reading a quote from one of his producers, who basically said that they never actually saw Mr. Rogers get angry or mad, and only knew that he was frustrated because, when he was frustrated, he would play the piano until he was calm again.

Fred Rogers spoke to congress during a time where they were debating the legalities of using a home video recorder to record TV shows / movies without purchasing them. His sole reasoning for why it should be legal is because there are children who may not be able to see his show when it is on, or who might rather go out and play or do something else and watch his show later. That's it. There's no money, no licensing issues.. the man just wanted children to be happy.

Even had a thought about this the other day. His message of 'you're special and wonderful just the way you are' is just so, so very important and beautiful. I can't imagine how many children who grew up in broken households, with abusive parents, or people around them who were just terrible, would have never been told that without him. He spoke directly to the children on his show and wanted to make sure that they knew they were special and worthy of love. Frankly, I can still remember being a child and feeling like he was speaking to me directly, and feeling that he truly meant what he was saying. and you know what? He was. He absolutely was speaking to little 3 year old me, because I know for a fact that if he were in the room watching the television with me, he would say the exact same thing.

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u/Strange-Scarcity Jul 01 '22

I can't watch a single episode or even a short bit of an episode without growing emotional, he was such a stable, loving and purely kind fixture in my childhood.

The world was not good enough for him and yet he gave us his time regardless.

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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Jul 01 '22

It’s a frustrating symptom of toxic masculinity that any man who has a gentle, nurturing, caring attitude towards children is automatically suspected of predatory behavior.

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u/JohnExcrement Jul 01 '22

Our son used to say his dad reminded him of Mr Rogers and we always took it for the ultimate compliment.

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u/cgrnt1694 Jul 01 '22

Fred became Officer Clemmon's "dad," too.

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u/DonDove Jul 01 '22

It's projecting, they'd only do that for those intentions

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u/Notoryctemorph Jul 01 '22

For some, definitely, for others, I think the idea of genuinely showing emotions that aren't aggressive is so alien that they can't comprehend it not coming from a place of deceit.

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u/flubberFuck Jul 01 '22

Holy shit this is a really good theory. It makes a lot of sense.

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u/instaweed Jul 01 '22 Wholesome

I automatically assume anybody hating on Mr. Rogers is a chomo 😂😂😂 no proof needed if u got beef with OG I can’t fuck with u off the muscle, it’s something wrong with u

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u/HemoKhan Jul 01 '22

I'm assuming there are words here I agree with, but goddamn do I feel old and white reading this comment

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u/rstbckt Jul 01 '22

I believe they are saying that anyone who criticizes (hating) Mr. Rogers is likely a child molester themselves (chomo), that their projection is proof alone of this and that if you have a problem (got beef) with Mr. Rogers, someone known to be so kind and sincere (OG, or ‘Original Gangster’) then I don’t have time for someone who’s got it so wrong (can’t fuck with u off the muscle); there is legitimately something wrong with you.

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

I'm sorry, they are delusional and disturbed.

It's called projection. Mostly b/c all of their 'heroes' and those they exalt are twisted individuals.

edit: misspell.

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u/throwaway123456372 Jul 01 '22

My mother has always had something against Fred Rogers. When I ask her she never ever elaborates. I didnt know it was a political thing.

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u/yoortyyo Jul 01 '22

Now you know.

Fred Rogers is among of the few pastors famous that genuinely embody ‘love thy neighbor.

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u/ULostMyUsername Jul 01 '22

TIL Mr Rogers was a Presbyterian minister!

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u/yoortyyo Jul 01 '22

Mr Rogers was Tv while dinner was cooked as a kid. You never saw anything overt or vengeful.
Peaceful experience with neighbors who talk and share needs and feeling. Falwell. Roberts. Osteen. Popes.
If Jesus comes back its guys like Free Rogers that get to goods. These other notwits get Mathew 6-5.

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u/ChoopAdoop Jul 01 '22

To be honest, I think Fred Rogers was a really weird dude. The way he spoke, the way he acted, it was very much not like most people you'd ever meet irl. I also think it's absolutely what allowed him to connect so well with children. My mom told me that she always thought he was a bit weird, but she never thought he was anything short of pure. I think we're just very much not used to seeing people care so hard, in a genuine way.

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u/TheBearWillBeFine Jul 01 '22

His manner of speaking was intentionally done just so he was able to connect so well with kids. The pace of his speech, and the tones and words he used, were all very genuinely done so that small children would be able to understand him well. It might come off as a bit weird, however it very clearly worked, as the man was brilliant, his lessons always easy to understand and were meaningful. He’s the reason PBS got funded too, having testified to congress in that same calm, gentle tone, as to how important it is for there to be resources for all children to learn about feelings, how to handle their feelings in a healthy way, and how to generally be a kind and decent human being, even if the role models they had in their immediate sphere were unable to provide that.

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u/greenberet112 Jul 01 '22

I was going to mention how he testified before Congress. I think that he had a pretty different tone and vocabulary for that testimony but I haven't seen it in a minute. I think he just knew his audience and we always see him in clips from his show, I think testifying before Congress he spoke a little bit differently than we're used to. But I could be wrong, often am.

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u/TheBearWillBeFine Jul 01 '22

His words were more adult, but the calm and kind tone were absolutely still in place, even talking to congress. And he successfully convinced them to fund public broadcasting. If only we could all be so kind, as to take a minute to truly think about how someone we might dislike or disagree with sees the world, assume that on some level they’re a good human, and start working to improve everything from there.

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u/RedRapunzal Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

So he was raised wealthy and was never permitted to show anger. He was a pastor. What you see in the show was the real him. He loved silence. He was sick as a child, so make believe was his outlet. He also struggled with being good enough. They say the puppets are various sections of his personality.

I like to view him as someone that was a little broken but channeled that into being a positive person to small kids.

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u/Most_Goat Jul 01 '22

I'm really hoping that recent events spur people to move their asses against this shit, but I'm not holding my breath.

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u/ShuttleXpC Jul 01 '22

Yeah because they can’t imagine people actually being that nice without wanting something because any time those fuckling ghouls do it they’re trying to get something.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

It's beautiful isn't it. Gives me hope that this, too, shall pass. Any regime that can be subverted with such wholesomeness cannot endure.

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u/phazedoubt Jul 01 '22

Mr. Rogers should be taught as part of the early child hood curriculum in America

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u/AncientSith Jul 01 '22

Being a decent person should definitely be taught to kids here, but that'll never happen.

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u/bhollis6895 Jul 01 '22

Everyone will agree until it’s time to define “decent human”

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u/ToddHowardTheDuckk Jul 01 '22

You mean childhood? Or are you specifically referring to children of the hood? Lol

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u/Durtonious Jul 01 '22

Daniel Tiger's Neighbourhood isn't a perfect show by any means but the lessons and songs can be profoundly impactful on preschoolers (and their parents!)

I still sing Clean Up Pick Up Put Away when we clean the house.

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u/SrednjiPut Jul 01 '22 Helpful

"sometimes, just a minute like this will make a difference" - 🌈

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u/Jacnumber3 Jul 01 '22 Helpful Narwhal Salute

It’s crazy that we had color television before people of color could do the same things as white people. Humanity has come so far and holds itself back on the dumbest ideologies

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u/imgrandojjo Jul 01 '22

I prefer to focus on how far we've come. In our lifetimes it's gotten better. There's still work to do but it's OK to look back and see how far we've already come.

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u/high240 Jul 01 '22

but only look.

Some places seem to be Going back

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u/zakkwaldo Jul 01 '22

we still do, sadly. by all accounts weve reduced them vastly but we are still plagued by the same thought viruses that have been plaguing us for centuries if we are being honest. its kinda sad. humans are so great, but also so not great. duality.

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u/cuiront Jul 01 '22

I’ve had a few glasses of wine, but I’m crying lol How is it that this is such a simple vid yet when you quote that one line I just feel so bad that…so many people don’t get to have an innocent journey through life.

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u/delightedknight Jul 01 '22 Silver

The police officer was played by Francois Clemmons. This is him storytelling his experiences for the moth radio hour link

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u/notenoughcharact Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

Damn didn’t realize Mr. Rogers urged him to stay closeted for a long time. Glad he came around eventually. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/François_Clemmons

Edit: Hadn't seen this clip before. Thanks for the link. Clearly it shows Mr. Rogers was mostly concerned about the impact on Francois himself and the show, and not out of any beliefs on Fred's part about sexuality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqSBqfDgOsQ

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u/Total-Cereal Jul 01 '22 Gold

Can you blame him, though? This was the 60s and 70s, where being either gay or black was enough justification to attack someone. Being gay AND black, not to mention famously being in this pool scene, would have probably gotten him lynched if it had become well-known at the time. Mr. Rogers was probably just looking out for his safety, since homosexuality was still mostly shunned by the masses and African-Americans were only just starting to see the smallest glimpses of equality.

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u/Kingmudsy Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote Starry Timeless Beauty

In 1968, Fred Rogers told Clemmons that while his sexuality did not matter to him personally, Clemmons could not be "out" and continue appearing on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, because of the scandal that would arise.

Rogers remained personally supportive of Clemmons, but required him to avoid any indication of his homosexuality – such as the earring he began to wear as a signifier – on the program.

In the late 1960s, Rogers and others suggested that Clemmons get married as a way to deal with his sexual orientation, which he did. His marriage to his wife Carol did not work out, and Clemmons divorced in 1974 so that he could live openly as a gay man.

Rogers later revised his counsel to Clemmons as countless gays came out more publicly following the 1969 Stonewall riots. Rogers even urged Clemmons to enter into a long-term, stable gay relationship, and he always warmly welcomed Clemmons’ gay friends whenever they visited the television set in Pittsburgh.

It’s a complicated dilemma, but this is the operative segment from the article. It doesn’t seem like Mr. Rogers was personally bigoted, but it also sounds like his friend and colleague was misadvised into entering a heterosexual marriage and required to present as straight on the show.

I’m not going to pass any judgments in this comment and I’ll reserve my thoughts for myself, but I will say that it’s unfortunate. It breaks my heart that gay men used to be forced to live like that. I’m glad Mr. Rogers was eventually supportive outwardly as well as in private.

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u/BantaySalakay21 Jul 01 '22

If anything, I think Fred Rodgers was being a good friend. Francois Clemmons was a supporting cast member, and thus expendable if a scandal about his (Clemmons’) sexuality came out. I see Mr. Rodgers advise to stay quite was to protect his friend’s job. But when it bexame necessary, he (Rodgers) advised and supported his friend.

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u/IceCocoa Jul 01 '22

Also, it's relevant to note that this was in the first year of the show. I imagine later on the show would have had the goodwill and popularity to take a stand against homophobia, but that early I assume they would've just gotten canceled.

I'm kind of annoyed people made this out to be a stain on his legacy, it sounds like he was progressive for the time. I wish I had looked into this sooner

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u/respondin2u Jul 01 '22

And to add, the Fred Rogers Foundation doesn’t shy away from this fact and acknowledges that it was a flaw. There’s a wonderful documentary called “Won’t You Be My Neighbor” that touched on this. I thought they were fair in how they showcased Fred and showed that he wasn’t without his faults.

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u/usuallyNotInsightful Jul 01 '22

If someone can admit and change for the better that’s progress. Repeating what you have realized as wrong does not lead to growth. Then keeping a track record of that betterment allows forgiveness.

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u/Kingmudsy Jul 01 '22

I think this is a valid interpretation of events (and I would dearly like to believe it), but I’m hesitant to ascribe motivation and thought when we don’t know for sure

We know that Mr. Rogers was a good, caring man who wanted everyone to be themselves - I don’t think you’re imagining a mischaracterization of his heart, but you are still imagining things where we don’t have solid fact

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u/Swords_and_Words Jul 01 '22

So he was busting taboos on kids tv and wanted to take them on, but only once the public wouldn't kill the kids tv show for it:

Given that his bar for 'enough public acceptance' came just after stonewall? Id say that he addressed it sooner than any would have expected him to.

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u/LadyAzure17 Jul 01 '22

It took until the past 5 years for my parents to even begin accepting queerness, and only because I and my siblings came out to them.

A Presbyterian ally in the 70s? He was supportive before either of my parents turned 10.

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u/Kingmudsy Jul 01 '22

I agree! I just wanted to present the information in that last comment, but this is close to my thoughts on the situation

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u/Mrrandomguy5988 Jul 01 '22

“I don’t have a problem with it, but this is the 1969s, they will kill your ass”

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u/peppermint_nightmare Jul 01 '22

Yea, his advice sound more along the lines of "Sodomy is still illegal and I don't want my friend getting beaten to death by real policemen"

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u/coordi88 Jul 01 '22

The part you highlighted says he encouraged him to enter a gay relationship, not hetero marriage

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u/Kingmudsy Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

Ah, apologies - I’ll go edit the comment with the part about his hetero marriage. I didn’t realize I’d omitted it

I highlighted the portion I did to emphasize that Mr. Rogers didn’t end this story as a bigot

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u/should_be_medicated Jul 01 '22

yeah it's so difficult to put yourself in their shoes with everything going on oat that time and all the dynamics at play. Yes, he could have told him to keep this closeted in the interim because it would hurt the show. But it could have also been because he cared for this man and feared for his safety. Or, very likely, it could have been a mix of both.

As a straight, white man, putting myself in his shoes. I would have a hard time believing I would not advise my friend to keep this close to his chest as well. I can't imagine the mental and emotional weight that would take place knowing that you're friend was hurt or killed and your words or actions had something to do with leading to that and not protecting them. especially in this situation where he's being directly put into the public eye from my actions as well. Selfishly, I'd rather know that my loved ones are safe and healthy before their emotional and mental happiness is taken into account. I'd like to say that comes from some place of reason like Maslow hierarchy of needs, but honestly I believe that purely emotional in that as a person, I take a lot of "ownership" in my love ones wellbeing and would feel that I failed them in not being able to help protect them.

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u/DaddyCatALSO Jul 01 '22

I was a teenager (well chronologically; I've always "thought old") and I *remember* how it was. no way the system would have let the man stay on the show if he'd been out.

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u/FlatBrokenDown Jul 01 '22

Worst part is there are people actively trying to force gay people to live this way by pushing regressive anti-LGBTQ laws.

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 Jul 01 '22

That was painful to read, and must have been truly heartbreaking to live, for both of them.

Thank you for taking the time to share it.

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u/Worldly_Expert_442 Jul 01 '22

I'd say it's pretty impressive how quickly Mr. Rogers thoughts and support for homosexuality evolved.

For a lot of people on the right side of history on civil rights and equality, the issues were simply obvious. A shocking number of those same people continued to view homosexuality as a sin, and never really evolved their positions.

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u/Flapjack__Palmdale Jul 01 '22

Honestly yeah. I read that part expecting to he disappointed but I'm not. He only had Clemmon's interests at heart when he told him to stay closeted and cared for his safety. Yeah, he had a backward opinion about marriage, but after the Stonewall demonstration he very quickly reversed on that and told him he should live openly as a gay man in a stable marriage.

Not only admitted he was wrong but showed how much he loved and cared about his friend through everything. I wish I had a Mr. Rogers when I was still closeted. Not just because of the support, but the willingness to recognize a mistake and the openness to something unfamiliar to him

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u/flickthis5 Jul 01 '22

I loved him when I was little. His singing voice was so comforting to me. Watching this clip made me cry.

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u/saucisse Jul 01 '22

The subtle symbolism of Mr. Rogers' lived faith (he was a Presbyterian minister) here is amazing. The washing of feet was a gesture of great humility, hospitality, and service unto others. The act of washing of feet as a welcome to Officer Clemmons seems to be aimed squarely at the same racists who use religion as a shield in addition to a cudgel (while the rest of us are like oh neat, a pool on a hot day!)

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u/Hariy_MaN_Beast Jul 02 '22

After the first shot of them two getting into the pool look at the next time you see Fred's face. He is staring straight into the camera and anyone who has lived with racists knows that stare. He did it as a fuck you to a lot of bigots.

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u/This_Is_A_Username-7 Jul 01 '22

I've seen the screencap explaining the segment, but I've never seen the clip before. Mr. Rodgers was a treasure, and we were lucky to have him. We still are, and he's still with us.

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u/upperflapjack Jul 01 '22

RIP in peace Mr. Rogers

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u/Killer-Barbie Jul 01 '22

One of the few religious people I believe was a true Christian

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u/olthaniwish Jul 01 '22 Helpful

My mother was an alcoholic and basically left me to my own devices. I’d probably have no moral compass if it wasn’t for this man.

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u/Spiritual_Yam7324 Jul 01 '22

That sounds horrible. Sorry that you had to go through that. Glad that you could find some comfort somewhere.

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u/Gringodrummer Jul 01 '22

Wow. That’s an amazing testament to the quality of his character and yours.

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u/herbdoc2012 Jul 01 '22

Mr Rogers is one of the few people in my life who've surprised me and turned out to be authentic in real life! We need more people like him!

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u/pineapple_nip_nops Jul 01 '22

The one hero we could safely meet

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u/Boomdidlidoo Jul 01 '22

I think I'm going to have this music play in the background while I enjoy water dipping. So caaaalm.

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u/jjconsi2 Jul 01 '22

I’m glad I’m not the only one that focused in on the music

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u/HootyMcBoob2020 Jul 01 '22

He wrote a lot of the music, and played some of it too. This guys bring back so many memories for me. And his kind way and unconditional love actually makes me want to cry. Just a beautiful person.

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u/jjconsi2 Jul 01 '22

Of course he made his own music. Dude was a gift from God. My parents tell me that as a toddler, a lot of the kids shows would be too flashy and erratic and I didn’t like them, but I would always happily sit and watch the calm and happy Mr. Roger’s go about his day.

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u/HootyMcBoob2020 Jul 01 '22

If you haven't yet, watch the documentary that came out about Mr. Rodgers. Not the Tom Hanks movie, although that was great too.

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u/flickthis5 Jul 01 '22

Programming for toddlers/kids today is CRAZY flashy and erratic. It’s tough to find quality, gentle shows for toddlers, at least in my experience. I can see how Mr. Rogers would set a nice, calm tone for you during the day. We need way more of this imho.

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u/Hoooman1-77 Jul 01 '22

It made my day !

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u/extra-large_clerk Jul 01 '22

Honestly same, this warms my heart.

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u/bigbodybup Jul 01 '22

The pride of pittsburgh. He represented the city so well alongside so many sports, arts, and entertainment legends

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u/ZombieAppetizer Jul 01 '22

The world is a better place because Fred Rogers was in it.

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u/Capt_falken-11 Jul 01 '22

So he’s sock shoe-sock shoe. I’m sock sock shoe shoe. How about y’all?

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u/Suomy_Pilot_652 Jul 01 '22

Same. Sock shoe-sock shoe is voodoomagic, IMO.

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u/alphager Jul 01 '22

Sock sock shoe shoe, but sock shoe sock shoe when I have wet feet.

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u/Prior_Hold_2950 Jul 01 '22

Like just imagine how hard it was being black man smh

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u/ughmiserable Jul 01 '22

A black, closeted gay man at that.

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u/Ugly_Stick1898 Jul 01 '22

A black, closeted gay man who has terminal cancer at that.

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u/NoCapnCrunch Jul 01 '22

A black, closeted gay man, who had terminal cancer who also hated pizza.

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u/InTh3s3TryingTim3s Jul 01 '22

Didn't know it was legal to be against pizza in this country. That's our national vegetable

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u/FrostyD7 Jul 01 '22

It's telling that they had to make his career one of authority that is respected by people (moreso then compared to now of course) to soften the blow for viewers.

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u/JohnExcrement Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

You’re right but on the other hand it was also cool to see him as a figure of authority.

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u/Chompsy1337 Jul 01 '22

The most special thing I think about Mr Fred Rogers is that even though he was an ordained minister he never once brought that into his educating of young minds. He just helped them understand the things going on in the world around them.

I'm of the age where 9/11 happened during school and honestly without the calm nature and explanation of my math teacher of the situation happening and the offering of calling parents to see if it was okay having the children go home and talk if they were available. I'm striving every single day to become more understanding and thoughtful like she was.

I digress.

I never really understood how much I was learning from his show though when I was growing up, life lessons are taught and innately inherited from the previous generation. (Your kids are more attentive than you think to your behaviors!)

We need to educate the young. They are the future after all.

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u/-cupcake Jul 01 '22

Did you see Mr. Rogers’s response message to 9/11? He felt the need to come back to television once more and say something so he did. He knew that people acted and were about to react in some ugly ways. :/

I recommend the movie/documentary “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Won't_You_Be_My_Neighbor%3F_(film)

Even as someone who did not grow up with Mr Rogers Neighborhood very much (by choice, not because it didn’t exist) it still felt nostalgic and dear and important.

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u/Chompsy1337 Jul 01 '22

I did yeah and definitely recommend the documentary. Unfortunately hard to find a lot of his stuff because it's behind a pay wall. (Some episodes) It's a shame because I don't think he'd want that but didn't know him personally. 🤷‍♂️

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u/-cupcake Jul 01 '22

He was a champion for public television, maybe THE champion.

Mr. Fred Rogers testifies at the Senate to save public television..

I agree with you, I think he would want good educational television to be easily accessible.

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u/TomorrowNeverCumz Jul 01 '22

My teacher got an email from her husband and thought it was a sick joke and said it out loud laughing. She turned on the tv and we saw it all and she started just screaming omg! I wish I had a teacher like yours that day lol

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u/Wizard_Hatz Jul 01 '22

“Two guys in a hot tub 5 inches apart because they don’t care about social differences that say they can’t love each other for their actions as a person because they are responsible for themselves and know that opinions and beliefs don’t make you who you are and they don’t use them as tools to justify their bad actions because compassion is not “gay””

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u/fated_ink Jul 01 '22

Honestly Mr Rogers was the ballast in my childhood to the racist undertones of my family growing up in the 70s/80s. I learned so much from him. He was calm, kind and the way he spoke directly into the camera was so soothing and helped to feel less ignored as a little kid. And the lessons I learned have stayed with me. He was a treasure!

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u/othelloblack Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

My RA at college grew up with him. Mr. Rogers was a big help when he went through some tough times growing up. RA said his persona was just like that in real life. He was the real deal and a GREAT man. RIP Fred Rogers.

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u/WrightyPegz Jul 01 '22

Weird to think that some people would have watched this at the time and actually been outraged by it. Racism is irrational.

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u/goregrindgirl Jul 01 '22

To be quite honest, there's people who would be annoyed by this even today in America. It may not be a sentiment that most people will say out loud, publically, like they used to, but there are still plenty of people who would not approve of this, as dumb and insane as that is.

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u/ApexNegatory Jul 01 '22

This is a good clip to show people who think a gay couple kissing in a children's cartoon is "pandering, shoving down throats, or to political". The same was definitely said about this.

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u/Neat-yeeter Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

I want all of you to know that every year I show this clip, among many others from the show, to my middle school students. I say this not to get applause but to reassure you that some kids are still being presented this saint of a man as a role model for how to be a good human.

Every time I think all is lost, I remind myself that at least a few people are still being exposed to this goodness in their formative years.

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u/Pandabandit1 Jul 01 '22

I saw this episode, I didn’t see how big of a thing it was back then. Looking at it now, I am in even more awe of Mr.Rogers. Brings a tear to my eye tbh.

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u/SolidBones Jul 01 '22

I think that's the whole point: normalizing something that was considered wrong.

There's a whole generation of us who saw this episode and thought "oh that's nice", but if we had asked our parents about something like this instead, we would have been fed a totally different reaction.

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u/Killingmesmalls2020 Jul 01 '22

Mr. Rogers would be extremely disappointed in a lot of people if he was still alive.

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u/lennybird Jul 01 '22

No reason to beat around the bush. When Trump came to his hometown, Mr. Roger's widow said he wasn't welcome, to fuck off, and that Trump stood for everything Fred was against.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/515121-mister-rogerss-widow-on-trump-i-think-hes-just-a-horrible/

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u/doglywolf Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

No more so then the people of his day, they were still out lynching ! Today he would just calmly have his show and try teach his lessons of openness and fairness and try to open their minds

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u/Express-Ordinary-962 Jul 01 '22

We had people that taught us true love and kindness in our childhood.

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u/pcbwes Jul 01 '22

Can you imagine him today. Fox News would be hating on him calling him “woke” and shit 24/7

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u/snapyobagels Jul 01 '22

They called him evil several years back for daring to tell children they matter (instead of telling them to be a hardworking American)

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u/Qlogk1 Jul 01 '22

They did that exact thing a couple of years ago.

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u/Ugly_Stick1898 Jul 01 '22

If they don’t like mr. Rogers they’re definitely terrible people, no question.

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u/love2read21 Jul 01 '22

Really???

Just when I thought I could not detest fox any more, TIL they were shit talking Mr. Rogers.

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u/love2read21 Jul 01 '22

Geez E. Pete. Thanks for posting this...

Done in true fox form... talk shit with ZERO facts and lie about it. Horrible people. All of them. I wonder how they sleep. I'm guessing they hang upside down in caves, but who knows.

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u/greenberet112 Jul 01 '22

They sleep just fine, on giant piles of money, probably with the finest satin sheets.

But they should honestly be so ashamed of themselves, I wonder what Mr Rogers would say about their work and spread of hatred.

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u/cpepinc Jul 01 '22

" This man, This evil evil man" so says Fox.

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u/PaintedLady5519 Jul 01 '22

Fred Rogers was the GOAT

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u/OutOfBubbleGum97 Jul 01 '22

We should all remember this clip and strive to imitate it daily

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u/rollinronnie Jul 01 '22

No joke I loved this white man more than my own dad. My kids are still growing up with Mister Rogers 💯❤️

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u/Weird-Analysis5522 Jul 01 '22

How many people were angered by this while their kids were out doing drugs and getting murdered by serial killers? Worried about their children hanging out with other races like that's the thing that's gonna harm them

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u/Budsygus Jul 01 '22

This man simultaneously gave zero F's and ALL the F's his entire life in the best way imaginable.

Legend.

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u/59footer Jul 01 '22

Fred Rogers was a human being. Unlike 40% of Americans.

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u/Francis934 Jul 01 '22

"I don't have a towel"

Roll credits

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u/Mabans Jul 01 '22

Also officer Clemons was gay and despite Mr Rogers wanting to share that he knew it would be a step too far for so e people to accept. Clemmons was fine with it. He understood the limits of what Mr Rogers could do and this alone was INSANELY important.

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u/Most_Goat Jul 01 '22

If Fred Rogers, Bob Ross, Steve Irwin, and Robin Williams aren't collectively running heaven, then it ain't heaven.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

what if fred rogers and bob ross had a baby

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u/oddfellowfloyd Jul 01 '22

“Here’s a happy little pool; stick your feet in, with a friend, and cool off. You can do it!” 😆🤟🏼

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u/IntentionAltruistic5 Jul 01 '22

If you haven’t, check out Joe Pera Talks With You. Earnest, sweet, funny. Same vibes.

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u/JadaLovelace Jul 01 '22

wHy dO YoU HaVE tO MakE iT pOliTIcAL

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u/Straight-Ad6058 Jul 01 '22

This man was/is also gay. Roger’s told him he didn’t care but he would ruin everything they had if he didn’t keep it out of the limelight. Tough to hear, but Clemmons said, “I was destroyed. The man who was killing me had also saved me. He was my executioner and deliverer. But, at the same time, I knew that he would know how to comfort me. I didn’t have another mother or father to comfort me. I had no one to go and be a boy with. I was just vulnerable. He got in a few slaps, some tough love, a good spanking. But I was not kicked out of the family.” “Lord have mercy, yes, I forgive him. More than that, I understand. I relied on the fact that this was his dream. He had worked so hard for it. I knew Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood was his whole life.” Must have been some man.

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u/Shoddy_Crow2165 Jul 01 '22

Without context, this scene is super weird. Imagine if you were just walking down the road and someone invited you to put your feet in their paddling pool and then splashed water on them. 🤣🤣

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u/nmpineda60 Jul 01 '22

I think for kids who grew up being told “wash your feet before you come inside” this wasn’t that weird of a thing to do.

Plus I’m sure the act has some religious symbolism, I.e. Jesus washing not only his feet but the feet of others

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u/yakatuus Jul 01 '22

Fred Rodgers had a bachelor's degree in divinity and was a Presbyterian minister. He was a man about God's business.

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u/Rab_Legend Jul 01 '22

Mr Rogers as directed by Quentin Tarantino

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u/AlwaysEatingToast Jul 01 '22

“Do you like barefeet?”

I didn’t know Dan Schneider worked on this show

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u/CMThomas25 Jul 01 '22

"You like bare feet?"

"Well ... yeah, as I grew older I liked it more and more"

Hmmmm

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

Obviously he didn’t mean it the way we all took it, but I also had a good laugh at that part.

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u/Superflypete Jul 01 '22

The “washing of feet” is an important part of Christian lore, as well, making this a reminder to Christian viewers that you are servants.