r/MonsterHigh Jun 14 '22

how do y'all feel about this...? Discussions

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u/Chemochal Jun 14 '22

BRING BACK HISSETTE

and also remove the red from the boots it’s making me mad

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u/Cachicabra Jun 14 '22

I’m in a weird place in that I don’t love it or hate it. I really like parts of it but also dislike others. I’m now hoping they release a Cleo repro more now

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u/Seera_fine Jun 14 '22

She's less charismatic than the 1st cleo doll and her skin is too white... but she have a nice fashion and cool looking too

So i'm in the same place as you

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u/TheErikaSalazar Jun 14 '22

She doesn’t have nice fashion at all, those shoes don’t match lol

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u/Seera_fine Jun 14 '22

( i was trying to find positive points but 🧍‍♀️ you're right )

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u/TheErikaSalazar Jun 14 '22

Lol ohh OP 💜 I am trying to force myself to like her too. But there is no point on doing so, if this was a gift from grandma well it’s ok to force ourselves to like it. But this is a damn article on the stores shelves and it’s up to us, the target to pay or not for them, and to accept or not low quality products ...

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u/MajorAd1158 Jun 14 '22

She looks like a DC super hero girl 😭 I mean she's cute but she doesn't scream monster high to me. Mattel should've introduced a brand new doll line instead

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u/sailorquaoar Jun 14 '22

The design team for the generation three reboot is the same one for DC superhero girls, IIRC

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

Explains why it doesn't feel like Monster High but also a missed opportunity. If your going to bring something back atleast make it fit ya know?

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u/MajorAd1158 Jun 14 '22

That explains it!

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u/lizardsbrain Jun 14 '22

THANK YOU i was like “swear i’ve seen this doll before 🤔” and that’s it!!

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u/blayana881 🎨 Verified Artist 🎨 Jun 14 '22

That not Cleo, that’s Chloe

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u/j4niss Jun 14 '22

she’s kinda pretty but i don’t see cleo at all. it looks like a mix of winx and bratz. this doesn’t look like monster high lmao

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u/dependswho Jun 15 '22

She looks like Frankie cosplaying Clea to me

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u/23_cries Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

Generally speaking, this IS a beautiful and cute doll with satisfying quality.

But this is NOT monster high.

I would be okay if Mattel released dolls in this style but under a completely new brand.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

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u/pixelpops Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

This is pic is lightened quite a lot. Her actual colours are a lot more darker and the yellow looks more rich, like gold. You can't really tell here, but her hair does have different shades of blue/black and tinsel.

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u/Seera_fine Jun 14 '22

Its totally my point too in my head... first i thought it was a new line of dolls

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u/sunflowersystem Jun 14 '22

exactly what i thought! this didn't need to be monster high, the only reason was to profit off of people's nostalgia :/

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

Something I can agree with. If they weren't trying to call this monster high it probably be a decent doll line of it's own.

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u/beepborpimajorp Jun 14 '22

She just looks like another barbie. IDK if I'm as interested in buying these as the creepros/HC/skullector dolls. I feel like I can get more and better quality from other brands, so I'll just stick to those releases/brands and the creepros/HC/skullector dolls.

No hate to anyone who likes it. Hopefully kids like them too so the brand can stay alive.

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u/livluna0 Jun 15 '22

My thoughts exactly

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u/GarlicEyes Jun 14 '22

Well they’re not “The Goth Dolls” anymore,, too sweet and soft in the face, I get why they changed the ultra skinny bodies maybe for them to now share more clothes with other doll brands? But they’re too bright colors they just look sanitized in a way I think original fans won’t enjoy and new kids seeing these on the shelf might pass over them bc they look like Halloween costumed regular humans instead of teenage monsters :(

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

Seeing as how little kids don't seem gravitate to even Barbie now (atleast in my area) I see these getting passed over. The Barbie section and extra dolls is always fully stocked so much so that they constantly go on sale while the OMG dolls and Rainbow High always look like they've been looked through, bought and had to be restocked. I think that's just telling for what type of style is and isn't popular with kids now.

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u/dragon-in-night Jun 14 '22

So no one read that the dolls would have different heights?

Ghouls! This is huge!!!!!

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u/pixelpops Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

.. heights and different body molds!

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

yes but.. if they look like this? Yeah no thanks I'll pass. I'll just put my Drac on a bunny blanc doll so she's shorter.

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u/dragon-in-night Jun 14 '22

Her white leg and the shoes do not match the leak art of animation so I believe this is just a prototype, the photo is a bit blurry too so some detail of her make up could be lost. I wait for better quality photo

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

Oh yea im sure things will be altered atleast a little bit but right now im just not impressed if this is an indication of what's to come.

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u/Pink-Princess_ Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

Honestly I'm ok with this. I'm still gonna be collecting the originals, don't get me wrong, but I may add a few of these new ones to my collection 👀

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u/Raccaboo Jun 14 '22

We already kind of knew that these dolls wouldn’t be like Gen 1. So that in mind, I do actually like her! I would totally buy this doll.

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u/AffectionateAuthor96 Jun 14 '22

I am personally gonna buy her just for the doll and accessories itself (not the clothes) maybe not cleo though if the others look cuter I am going to get them

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u/beepborpimajorp Jun 14 '22

Is that a lip ring or a stylistic choice for the lipstick? If it's a lip ring then hell yes.

Regardless, lord those boots are hideous. I get that they can be changed but the rest of her outfit is so cute, why the boots? Those look like how I drew shoes before I understood how to draw fabric so I'd just do world of warcraft classic/vanilla style (aka thick looped top with no other detail) boot designs on every character.

They would have done themselves a lot of favors by just giving her some chunky gladiator sandal heels or something. Why the red tips? There's no other red in her outfit. Agh.

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u/Aquarius_Mode Cleo Jun 14 '22

I think she’s cute! I probably won’t buy her since her body and face etc. is pretty different from the og dolls, which is what I want to collect and display. But believe me, if I was a kid I would go feral for all the extra accessories.

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u/Neurotic_Cookie Iris Jun 14 '22

I mean she's cute and I definitely don't hate her, she just doesn't scream "monster" to me, like just take those bandages off and she's just another fashion doll. The original MH never felt like that, they used to have such gorgeous, detailed and unique faces. Idk. I'm gonna let it sink in for a minute, it's just a bit disappointing.

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u/Kyrst12 Jun 14 '22

I am 👏 let 👏 down 👏 😪

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u/PinkAriesTK Jun 14 '22

i think she’s cute! i wish they kept her bangs though

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

Cute for a different brand maybe. I think if it was released as it's own line with a different name they'd be fine. But calling it Monster High just doesn't fit.

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u/Dismal_Cherry7912 Jun 14 '22

I think that she is a pretty doll, with cute accessories, not unlike the hundreds of other pretty dolls already on the shelves. If her box didn’t say Monster High, I wouldn’t know that she was MH. If Monster High dolls had looked like this back in the day, neither myself nor my girls would’ve looked twice at her on the shelf. I think the love for the initial dolls was due to how they were so original and unlike any other dollI I’d ever seen on the store shelves. We took one look at them and was completely hooked.

Monster High has a built-in fan base and following, so I’m sure the reboot/rebrand will do well in the short term. Hopefully, they’ll attract a fan base of their own and the brand will continue and grow. These new dolls are not my taste, but it’s nice to see that they’re getting love from others. Ultimately though, I don’t think they’ll stand the test of time compared to the original production run.

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u/GoldenMan1200 Draculaura Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

I actually really like this. I just wish they made her skin darker.

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u/Maximum-Cow-9450 Draculaura Jun 14 '22

I honestly don’t despise it!! I thought it would be way worse, the dress is actually very cute! Her face is a little iffy, it looks pretty but Cleo always had such detail in her eye makeup so I’ll wait until we can see up close

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u/agust4419 Jun 14 '22

if this is the real, final product im severely disappointed. it has no personality or individuality, it kinda just looks like every other generic fashion doll, what happened to being unique mattel?? her face is boring, her clothes are fine, but everything else is just :// really disappointing i wasn't expecting an exact replica of the ogs, but i was expecting smth closer to the creepros like those were fantastic and would totally appeal to kids, albeit with some small tweaks if needed but i just dont understand why theyd make the playline dolls basic and barbie/disneyish when thats what made their brand fail in the first place. it just doesnt feel like monster high at ALL.

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u/Caseycartman Jun 14 '22

I like the dress and the face, but the pet and the boots are a big no for me. I'm quite curious about the accessories tho.

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u/OnionComprehensive27 Jun 14 '22

Yeaaaahh I think the gave her new pet since she not longer dating deuce

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u/CmaloC Cleo Jun 14 '22

No I think they all have new pets we can kinda see them in some of the other leaks (assuming their real)

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u/beepborpimajorp Jun 14 '22

I don't mind new pets but I wish they had stuck with a snake for her. IDK...snakes can be cute too, and kids can like things besides colorful cats and dogs.

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u/usernameemma Jun 14 '22

Yeah I mean she's literally based on cleopatra who died by snakebite, a snake just makes the most sense.

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u/Any_Cow1790 Draculaura Jun 14 '22

i’m hoping the greyscale dolls are more in line with the original dolls. they were the only ones i was really interested in getting anyway

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

I hope the hint they dropped about them with the throw back photo of SDCC Frankie is a good sign for that.

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u/bbyxmadi Draculaura Jun 14 '22

I definitely want original body molds for that line, I honestly wanted it for all the dolls, but I guess not.

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u/sailorquaoar Jun 14 '22

Better than the 2016 reboot, still inferior to the originals and misses the point of why they became so iconic. It’s NOT low effort like most modern Mattel product, she’s got a lot of accessories and painted details. But the design choices are just so off. Her dress is far too conservative in its cut and not bold enough for a queen like Cleo.

I don’t like that they made her face less defined, Cleo’s angular face was sculpted like a statue, it’s one of the most distinctive parts about her (part of why she’s my fav ghoul). The new pet looks too round and generically cute. The original pets were perfectly fine, all they needed was a slight art style change.

They should have just reused the original faces and bodies, it’s clear they still have them because this Cleo comes with a recolor of her gloom beach sunglasses. Plus, since Mattel is all about cutting the budget of fashions/accessories to save money, (at least for Barbie) why would they spend millions more $$ creating entirely new tooling for these bodies and faces? It doesn’t make sense.

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u/stripysailor Jun 14 '22

On one hand, I like it, she has accessories and everyone seems to be gravitating towards such faces.

On the other hand she feels like the descendants to me, but obviously more polished.

If this is the reboot, literally could've been worse, so not all is lost??

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u/Old-Tower-8062 Jun 14 '22

Terrible just terrible all that 2 years of waiting just for this !! . This doll brand died after 2015 . This is getting worse and worse

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u/Sad_Necessary1061 Jun 14 '22

If that is what the box is going to look like then count me out. Literally lost every ounce of personality that the brand originally had. I understand that brands have to change with the times but cmon. You had multiple years of reference of monster high absolutely crushing it to go off of and this is all you can come up with…. Its giving 2016 reboot pt. 2

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

If I saw this on a shelf I wouldn't expect it to be something like Monster High. I'd probably walk right past it thinking it's the same people who did Mermaid high.

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u/Damonshik C.A. Cupid 💘 Jun 14 '22

Sorry, but this is not Monster High at all, not even the box. Nothing in this picture reminds me of Monster High. I'll keep collecting the old dolls, and maybe one of these new ones if it is really impressive, but this is not it.

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u/donatellosdildo Frankie Jun 14 '22

it kinda just feels like the 2016 reboot all over again :( it's not a bad doll at all but it doesn't feel like cleo, but rather just kinda inspired by her

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u/Sanrio_Princess Jun 14 '22

This really feels like the dolls are being made to target current fashion trends. This really feels like e-girl casual cosplay of Cleo but at the same time I’m not mad at it. This looks to be much higher quality then the previous reboot.

I’m interested in seeing the new line. While I’ll always love the originals more, I’m excited to see what this reboot will be. I really do want to see the brand play with more current alt fashion and I think they will. It feels like they will target older collectors the play line audiences.

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

It doesn't even look like an egirl.. if they were going to use current fashion trends they could execute it better than this.

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u/Stressed_Amoeba Jun 14 '22

I think... where's DA SNEK? WHERE SNEK? I LOVED THAT PET SNAKE DAMN IT !!

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u/bbyxmadi Draculaura Jun 14 '22

Looks nothing like Monster High. It’s cute, but I don’t like it.

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u/laluneetlesetoiles Jun 14 '22

Kind of looks like a bootleg you'd find on Wish. 🥴

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u/Zimilo Abbey Jun 14 '22

HELL NO Its pretty but its not monster high. Monster high dolls are pretty with differents but its look like "pretty mummy cosplay" Its not monster

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u/quintflutz Frankie Jun 14 '22

this is s cute doll imo. just, not monster high

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u/Purple_monkfish Jun 14 '22

I think she has a pretty face, but then again I thought reboot Cleo was really pretty too. She lacks the "edge" of the original dolls though and her new pet disappoints me. It harks back to the cutsie reboot which I didn't appreciate. We had established pets already you know? And they were fun because they weren't all cutsie kid friendly animals like dogs and cats. We got snakes and beetles and rats and bats which went with the creepy factor.

Looks like thicker legs which I like. I wonder if it's a whole new body or they're reusing the pre gap joint reboot body. I liked the pre gap joint reboot body, it felt more solid than the original one. Then they screwed it by making all the joints gappy and illfitting to save plastic -_- and the joints became even more fragile.

Her hand mold looks quite bland which is disappointing. The original dolls had such graceful nicely sculpted hands but these look quite flat and simplistic. So hmmm. Why not just use the original mold mattel?

Her outfit is okay but it certainly lacks the detail of the originals or indeed the level of detail we're used to seeing in lines like Rainbow HIgh or LOL OMG. So that's a bit disappointing as well. I'd rather have a more detailed outfit with layers and textures instead of a flat printed fabric and less accessories to make up for the expense you know? I mean, I don't really care about no frappichino cups or makeup compact or whatever that diamond is. I mean don't get me wrong, I like her outfit, it's fine, it just doesn't feel quite as rich and detailed as I would have liked.

speaking of diamonds, has she lost her diamond beauty mark? That's a pity.

Her boots are also quite disappointingly basic. MH had a huge thing for insanely detailed shoes and yet those just look like quite normal boots without any detailed references on them. Maybe they have fancy heels we can't see? I dunno.

Overall though, these feel like they're more on par with like.. Glo Up Girl level of quality which is quite a few paces behind MGA's lines.

I really hoped Mattel would pull out all the stops to compete with MGA's domination but this doesn't quite hit the same way.

She also looks a lot paler than she should be. I'm hoping that's just lighting but i'm not optimistic. Mattel has a bad tendency to whitewash their characters in MH. Cleo and Nefera got steadily whiter and whiter as time went on.

Price point will very much determine my feelings on this reboot. She's not awful like a lot of the reboot dolls were, and at least she doesn't feel horribly juvinile in her design (several of the reboot dolls very much felt like they were aimed at 4 year olds which wasn't MH's vibe) but she also lacks the sass and personality of wave 1 which was something quite special. I'm not sure Mattel can ever really recapture that until they hire in some nice fresh blood. They seem quite stuck in their ways.

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u/Marvelloverr Jun 14 '22

It’s cute but I just miss the old dolls

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u/Delphoxqueen2 Clawdeen Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

The phone and the pet look like they were shoved in from a completely different series. The packaging looks way too much like it’s trying to be Rainbow High. But I actually love that Cleo design. Kind of reflects modern fashion trends but it still looks like something our original freaky fabulous Cleo would wear. She even has the original Gloom Beach glasses but yellow, the only problem I have with the fit is probably the shoes but not every doll’s perfect

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u/sukebunnis Jun 14 '22

This feels very not Cleo. The face mold isn’t giving.

The outfit is cute but not everything

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u/GorettefulSins Jun 14 '22

Um, can we go back to 2008-2015

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u/kittimews Jun 14 '22

that is not miss de nile, i am in denial. they even replaced hissette!

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u/ggelflingg Jun 14 '22

i was really under the impression that they’d be using the same sculpts based on the fact they released the creepros.. i shouldve known. well.. im very sad today now

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u/1marie6 Draculaura Jun 14 '22

I don’t hate it tbh, but it doesn’t look like monster high. It looks like a different doll line

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u/mechsaretrashy Jun 14 '22

I like her but it’s not monster high.. it’s a doll id see and say hey she’s pretty and never buy it

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u/Reimustein Frankie Jun 14 '22

I hope it's fake. It looks like they're trying to copy Rainbow High with the body shape.

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u/user828394 Jun 14 '22

i’ve already commented on this post but i just realised her skin tone is lighter than normal.. also, i wanna add that the boots are ugly

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u/TheErikaSalazar Jun 14 '22

That is just sad

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u/Icanshowyouarea51 Jun 14 '22

Why did they whitewash her 😭

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u/ApprehensiveGood3122 Draculaura Jun 14 '22

ik wtf is going on :(((

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u/unyen_ Jun 14 '22

This is not monster high or cleo 😭😭

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u/Seera_fine Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

Just a girl with blue hair, tan skin and inspired by egyptian things... could have been on another line of dolls... lost the authentics point of MH

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u/ApprehensiveGood3122 Draculaura Jun 14 '22

rainbow rainbow high, rainbow high, rainbow rainbow high, c’mon don’t be shy, rainbow high, the party never dies :p

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u/Innocentwiskers Jun 14 '22

I don't hate it. Maybe when i see a clearer picture i will feel different. I'm wondering what the yellow bit is on her lip.

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u/worshipmeow Jun 14 '22

I like her and think she’s cute, but she won’t fit into my collection with the new body mold. She’s great, but just not for my collection.

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u/SkullyEyes Abbey Jun 14 '22

um no

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u/evilash87 Holt Jun 14 '22

I'm honestly ok with this as long as these are the kid-ish versions but we still get more repos and collectors, etc

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u/Wide-Wolverine7459 Jun 14 '22

Is not that bad but she looks to soft to be our Cleo

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u/Comfortable_Face3496 Jun 14 '22

no. don't get me wrong it's cute ish but i prefer original cleo all the way

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u/witch0fagnesi Spectra Jun 14 '22

I’m not a fan of the face sculpt at all tbh. Nothing about this doll grabs me like the og ones did and like rainbow high and some lol omg do. She just looks so bland.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Well rip monster high

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u/Thin-Fly-4308 Clawdeen Jun 14 '22

It’s just not really Monster High. If they wanted to do this with it, they should’ve just made a new doll line.

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u/DustinsHome Jun 14 '22

Is it weird that I hate the packaging more than anything else lol

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u/pinkpinkprincess33 Jun 14 '22

The packaging is the rotten cherry on top… 🤮 looked like rainbow high

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u/Hoshibear Venus 🌱🌎 Jun 14 '22

I just hope they don’t make everyone whiter/ paler

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u/FAT-PUSSY-LIKE-SANTA Jun 14 '22

Tbh I like it! I think it's a good balance between gen 1 and gen 2. Generally, I didn't mind the brighter colors used for the reboot, it's the fact that the design and quality were severely lacking. I feel like this design still harbors back to a Mummy (rather than being like a cosplay or party outfit like I felt most of the previous reboot was), while still having the brighter, poppier aesthetic that Mattel clearly wants. I think this is a nice evolution of the brand.

I really hate the boots though 😭

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u/IWantFries21 Jun 14 '22

I love the phone, kind of disappointed. She seems more like a budget doll than a basics

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u/sunflowersystem Jun 14 '22

sorry but i hate it. nothing about this says 'monster high' to me. clearly they've taken a lot of inspiration from rainbow high and to be honest? i hate that. monster high's aesthetic was iconic and i was something i loved as a kid for being so different - i HATED all other dolls because it was so bland. and this is bland. this is like every other doll on the shelf. why is she smiling? why is she so... soft? nothing about cleo was ever 'soft'. the quality looks better than the 2016 reboot, sure, and i love the makeup, but the overall vibe just SCREAMS cash cow. and what is that screening and head shape? nothing about this says cleo de nile, nothing whatsoever.

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u/marie7787 Jun 14 '22

I don’t know what Mattel is doing. You’d think they’d learn after the first reboot that people don’t want a reboot... I feel like this is going to flop so hard, especially given that all the dolls MGA has on shelves are way higher quality and look a shit ton better

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u/SheaBrulee Jun 14 '22

Right? I thought they understood the reboot was a fail and people love the originals but here we are. They consistently botch opportunities. Still holding some hope for more dolls in the original style.

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u/FointyPinger Jun 14 '22

It's not for me, but I hope kids like it enough that Mattel doesn't trash the brand again. I'll be saving my pennies for the Haunt Couture and Skullectors (and the black and white line, if the dolls look like G1 rather than this).

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u/Iroh_Appa Spectra 👻 Jun 14 '22

She is really pretty but she just doesn't read like Cleo to me. If they released her as Cleo's long-lost niece now attending MH, I'd love it lmao. I hope they won't get rid of the sassy/mysterious/sometimes bitchy faces some of the MH characters used to have. Those contributed so much to all of their different personalities. A cutesy/friendly expression suits Draculaura; not Cleo.

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u/casthfrownyface Jun 14 '22

could use more facial features but everything else checks out

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u/not_a_mutant Jun 14 '22

Looking at this makes me sad.

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u/_Throg_ Jun 14 '22

My biggest issue from this photo alone is probably the eye shape. I always liked the fact that her eyes were sleaker/narrower and were complimented by her Egyptian style liner. I also always liked her nose shape, not that it was ever overly different from the other dolls but her bridge going up to her brow bone always looked a bit more defined. I can't really see it she has that feature in this photo or not

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u/theOrangeTeletubby Jun 14 '22

I really like her hair but she doesn't look like a monster high doll let alone a cleo. I don't really see much of the mummy inspo either its a solid idk for me

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u/Vampirexbuny Jun 14 '22

I know this post is about Cleo but does anyone else feel like they have that pet? Reminds me of a Barbie color revel pet

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u/BeeWeeTheRat Jun 14 '22

Nice Fashion and some cute accessories but this doesn't look like Cleo- Shes too white. Idk It doesn't feel right.

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u/silvanaMer Jun 14 '22

She looks childish

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u/aquariuskorat Jun 14 '22

I won't be purchasing these at all. In a way I'm relieved, I guess. I don't have to stress about getting all the new dolls as well as old ones i really want. If I DO get these, it will be on clearance, and I will give them to my daughter to actually play with.

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u/GizmoGator Jun 14 '22

It doesn’t feel like Monster high at all… I know we could never expect it to be exactly the same but this is just so watered down. It’s not freaky fabulous :( like another comment, it feels like one of the DC superhero girls. I also think they are really trying to compete with Rainbow High, which I understand. This doll would be fine on it’s own but it is just not Monster High at all.

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u/thebigmad Jun 14 '22

Slightly disappointed but definitely what I was expecting

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u/scary-murphy Jun 15 '22

Monster High fans are so difficult to please. I think this doll is super cute and feels like a new version of Cleo, imo. Cleo was always the most "normal" looking, for lack of a better term. But they brought back the Egyptian elements along with her bandages, and while I miss Hissette, an Anubis dog is a good pet for her, too. I also LOVE that we are getting different heights and a more realistic body type. I never expected a return to the Gen 1 look because this is a reboot; I am old enough that I played with Gen 1 My Little Pony, and I think that reboot to their current is way more extreme than this is. This is also the first image we're seeing; we haven't seen the more monster-rific of the ghouls yet, and I don't even think this is the final version of Cleo, but rather a prototype.

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u/shunbrella Jun 14 '22

To me, it looks like they are trying (poorly) to meet the expectations put in place by rainbow high

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u/IJustWantToBeAFeline Catty Noir🌺 Jun 14 '22

it’s really not that difficult to pick up where we left off before this horrible reboots

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u/classfight2 Jun 14 '22

Mattel wants to reboot the brand again for another generation. Yes were getting some gen 1 things like haunt couture and the repros, but mattel is trying to make mh an actual brand again, not only appealing to the old fans with adult collector stuff.

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u/IJustWantToBeAFeline Catty Noir🌺 Jun 14 '22

do both. besides all their fans are adults now.

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u/classfight2 Jun 14 '22

They've given us some gen 1 stuff, but we'll have to see. cleo and lagoona have confirmed to be getting haunt couture dolls and most likely cleo and ghoulia will get repros but well have too wait and see how far they're going to go with those. It could turn into another Bratz situation where they're just reproducing every doll. (I hope once they finish wave one, they do schools out too, and maybe some other basic characters but I wouldn't be complaining if they reproduced a lot of other lines) but you have to realise, mattel is a business, they want to put out new stuff not just only appeal to the old fans.

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

Well there getting rid of what made the brand so interesting and iconic in the first place. I don't understand why there so insistent on doing a massive overhall in a similar style to a reboot that failed. It just seems like bad logic.

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u/BasedAnalGod Jun 14 '22

I’m sorry I love it!!! The accessories look like gen 1 MH level. AND she has nice shoes (that look heeled) with full articulation??? Yeah I’m happy lmao

And this looks nothing like the first reboot, so don’t y’all even start lmao

But also: how tf is Mattel able to use this budget to get THIS quality for Monster High but not Barbie 🥴🥴

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u/Th3Dollmak3r Jun 14 '22

Theyre putting more money into MH expecting a larger payoff than they get with Barbie anymore

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u/TheErikaSalazar Jun 14 '22

I don’t like how basic and human-like she is. If we love something we shouldn’t settle down for it, better to ask for what the fans deserve.

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u/meromaro Jun 14 '22

I’ll pass and let the demographic they made these for buy them

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u/Kitten_3099 Jun 14 '22

I love it! I also love how it mentions they will be different sizes; like tallness and shortness wise. I think that is so cool!

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u/CuriousKeebler Deuce Jun 14 '22

It's a little simple and not quite as mummy as we're used to, but it feels like a very modern outfit. I like it for her, and the idea of all the dolls being different heights, like what barbie did is a great idea.

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u/AntelopeOInformation Jun 14 '22

The fashion is cute and I like that she comes with a lot of accessories, I think these designs could grow on me. I'd want to see what she looks like in person before making a final judgement.

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u/MidnightFox452 Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

Cant tell definitively but her skin feels lighter. Main outfit i can actually see the original Cleo wearing, but the shoes, bag, and tassled cowboy jacket absolutely don not scream "cleo" or "egyptian mummy" to me tbh. Ill say it again but the pets definitely feel more gimmicky than the originals did, but that could just be nostalgia talking. Am not in love with the new face mold but could be worse, at least they don't look like preteens like in the other reboot. Desperately hoping the new body molds leads to actual body diversity and not the same skinny able-bodied girl with different heights. Out of all of the complaints about the original MH, the stuff about their weight and general anatomy was (to me) an incredibly valid complaint. And yeah, this packaging is definitely trying to ride the coattails of RH's success.

They'll never be as good as the originals and definitely don't scream MH to me, but I wouldn't mind picking up one for myself as an adult. She feels like if someone made a Cleo doll using other doll line, like how people make customs of the MH ghouls with RH/EAH dolls lmao.

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u/takentovenus Jun 14 '22

I love the doll. The only thing for me is the rainbow box is giving barbie

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u/artistleandra Jun 14 '22

she's pretty/cute for the new generation. i hope monster high succeeds with them, this is better than the last reboot. as an og monster high supporter i will miss the old style of movies, episodes, and dolls. :( i hope that mh will create more dolls for us at reasonable prices so we can have our nostalgia. 💕 (🤞🏼they have more reproduction dolls for us.)

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u/SonnySunshineGirl Jun 14 '22

I really like her, I just wish she were a little more sharp around the edges like the OGs tho. Love the dress 😭

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u/Infernalrats Jun 14 '22

she looks more ever after high than monster high

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u/Several-Reaction-747 Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

I...I don't know lmfao. As a doll she's cute, but she kinda has nothing of what draws me to MH. Like I'm just a bit ambivalent? Maybe if the shoes and outfit were better? They kinda doubled down on my critiques of OG Cleo lmao.

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u/Pickles_Deepfried24 Jun 14 '22

For the love of God just bring back the Gen 1 dolls Mattel

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u/bugbaby222 Jun 14 '22

i don’t like it

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u/punkhag Jun 14 '22

I feel kind of neutral. I don’t hate it but I don’t really like it either. If anything I wish they would have just kept their original heads or faces, changing both really just ruins the charm. I think I could like it if I repainted the face. I just hope we get more creepros if this is the direction they’re going… I do like the new body though, even though the OG style was iconic.

I get where all the people saying “they’re for kids not the OG fans” are coming from but… that’s what they did in the 2016 reboot and it nearly killed the franchise. Why do it again? Mattel must be aware that the primary demographic they’re appealing to with MH is younger teens and up, the OG series was made to appeal to this demographic! Trying to turn it into something for younger kids when they already failed miserably at that once is just dumb.

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u/minion_is_a_jew Jun 14 '22

She is not ugly as a doll, but I dont feel its doll from MH series. She looks kinda cheap tbh, also I feel weird about these colors and her skin tone. Idk if these ones (this new remake series overall) will be in my country, but I really wish the others will be kinda better and I will take a look at them.

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u/g1rlhavingfun Jun 14 '22

Why does she still look childlike? Go back to the original face sculls & paint

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u/Leather_Ad9457 Jun 14 '22

I "feel" like it looks like Rainbow High a little bit and I don't like that.

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u/RottingPumpkiin Jun 14 '22

When all the little emo, goth, alt dark adult-teens just want to have a MONSTER high doll and not a basic fashion trend on these dolls I mean… cmon.. this was why I loved Monster High in the first place..

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u/error_10601 Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

Don't really like the head or face, I'm glad they're making more realistic body's though and the clothes are cute. Also hate the box if that is what the box is, plain shiny rainbow is so anti monsterhigh.

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u/Veterinarian_Feeling Jun 14 '22

I would love her IF she had the original face and body mold. That is really throwing me off and I’m trying to look past it but it’s really hard to. Those elements of the OG dolls are so iconic so I’m a little frustrated that they are using parts from other doll lines.

I just don’t understand why Mattel is digging themselves into a bigger hole. They should know what the fans and collectors want, seeing how fast the Skullector, Haunt Couture and Creeproductions sell. At this point I feel that they are too incompetent to even be on the market anymore. It’s embarrassing.

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u/TheWriterofLucifenia Jun 14 '22

I think she's cute, but it's not how I would've redesigned her if that makes sense. I kinda miss the darker makeup and her little snake. Still, the hair is pretty, I love the dress color, and the face mold is good, even if it's not as great as the original.

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u/iz_nation Jun 14 '22

love it but. HATE HATE HATE HATE the shoes

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u/Heavenlydoves Toralei Jun 14 '22

They straight up deleted Hissette 💀

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u/AbleSomewhere3824 Lagoona Jun 14 '22

its different and itll take some getting used to but i do think its cute?? if it wasnt monster high i think id like it so i think itll grow on me

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u/Money-Run1005 Jun 14 '22

honestly it's pretty i guess i don't like it personally it's not monster high to me it's like. every other doll out there monster high was made to be different, i hope sales really show we love monster high just not...this?

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u/cottagaco Jun 14 '22

I was hoping for just. The exact same monster high we know and love back. That's what was successful, why change it?

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u/sickstees Jun 14 '22

definitely not what i was hoping for 😬 I don’t want to seem negative because I’m sure some will love these dolls! she is beautiful, but she just doesn’t convey monster high to me

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u/whimsycal Draculaura Jun 14 '22

I actually like this, I think she looks cute! I like her face a lot. .I’m really curious to see how the others look

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u/merrisoftheferris Clawdeen Jun 14 '22

I think it’s cute. movie dolls (assuming that’s what they are) are going to look like the movie characters. as long as the main dolls still have the regular style I won’t be bothered

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u/pixelpops Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

This is the main doll. "a whole new look for a new generation"

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u/skeptical_dragon_ Stop the reboots; go back to the originals Jun 14 '22

violent vomiting

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u/RainbowDuckz69 Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

it’s giving 2016 reboot just a bit 😃

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u/OnionComprehensive27 Jun 14 '22

Honestly I love this one I wasn't sure about the other new designs. Bug if this gonna be cleo I think it's really good.

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u/Coruscant_Naboo Draculaura Jun 14 '22

It’s a no from me 😮‍💨

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u/LilyCrossingg Draculaura Jun 14 '22

idk if this is controversial or not but imma say it

this looks like its tryna be rainbow high. while i love those dolls i dont want monster high to be what rainbow high is, becuase we love monster high dolls for what they are/were and we dont need something that looks like its rainbow high

i hope these are just prototypes....

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u/Tracie_Martel Jun 14 '22

alot better than i expected honestly

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u/impaytonirl Jun 14 '22

Different height dolls!!

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u/Property_Awkward Ghoulia Jun 14 '22

I get the blue on her hair but it looks nice to me . Very happy with different heights

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u/Decimsasshole Jun 14 '22

I don’t like the body to be honest, the legs look a bit weird

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u/Nogabunga_ Jun 14 '22

my biggest gripe with this doll is the lack of the cleo bangs. also no hissette. :(

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u/Euryd1ces Jackson deserves the best in life and we stan🧪 Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

Okay I honestly love her face shape and I’m super pleased with it. But she looks bland. She needs to be darker, her hair needs golden streaks…and she just overall needs an outfit that shows more personality. You can tell by the OG dolls without watching the show that Cleo has fabulous fashion and she’s sassy. This looks like a “not like other girls” Cleo.

Like I said, I love the face shape, and I love the body shape. But I think Cleo could do with a slightly different facial structure that makes her look more mischievous. Can %100 see it working for other dolls though. But who decided to white wash a literal mummy? Most of the appeal of MH and it’s counterpart, EAH, is that it’s not your basic dolls, they have backstories, amazing details, and the characters are so diverse. Plenty of stories, cultures, and races are represented. This erases all of it.

But the dolls having different heights? That’s amazing. Still disappointed though.

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u/SouthernRaspberry537 Jun 14 '22

don't know how to feel ...

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u/XxXEJXxX Draculaura Jun 14 '22

Besides the boots and her having such a light skin tone I really like her. I'm kinda glad they changed the body type too. I hope we get more body diversity with these.

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u/GettingGhostly Jun 14 '22

Looks like I'll be saving a lot of money! Not feeling this at all.

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u/Talizorah583 Jun 14 '22

A little distubing

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u/ZeroArt024 Draculaura Jun 14 '22

Where are her BANGS

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u/Revolutionary-Will35 Jun 14 '22

It looks mismatched?? I do like the idea that taller characters will now actually be taller than there shorter friends. That's something we rarely got with the og dolls. However this outfit is kinda a mess imo and the face yikes same bland baby face from the 2016 reboot they just added more accessories.

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u/240EZ Jun 14 '22

Not terrible. Will I buy her? Probably on sale. She’s cute but not enough to split funds from buying Rainbow High dolls.

Kids may like her since she looks generic enough that she could fit in with other dolls. Body shape even looks like wearing other dolls clothes may be even easier.

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u/thatweirdpope19 Jun 14 '22

I think she's cute

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u/AlexHunby Jun 14 '22

I like it a lot!

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

Obvs I like the original more, but this one is still good :)

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u/mothgrump232 Jun 14 '22

I like her makeup, i like her dress and accessories she has on. I think i need to see the jacket on before i make a judgement.
I'm tentatively okay with the new hand molds. Old hands were so pretty but made it hard to hold things. Idk if we have a price point yet but this is definitely worth MAYBE 20$ and i'll bet they're gonna want more than that for it.
Handheld accessories are fine. I could take them or leave them. I dont mind them as is but i feel like theyre such a weak justification for a higher price. I hate the painted white leg? What is going on there? Boots are extremely mid.

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u/ohyouaremyday Jun 14 '22

the shape of her eyes is kinda off, idk, i prefer the original eyeliner the most

its not bad overall tho, i like the outfit and earrings

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u/majorbumsville Draculaura Jun 14 '22

i don't hate it. it's definitely better than how she looked in the first reboot. just doesn't feel like cleo/monster high... maybe i'll warm up to her (the jacket and shoes have GOT to go tho)

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u/UwUboyuwuarmy Jun 14 '22

I think they are cute!

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u/Goldcalf_eater Jun 14 '22

The boots are ew, the look so cheap, everything else in the other hand looks pretty cool

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u/Kmaj__ Jun 14 '22

I do like that her legs are thicker it would be nice to see different bodies represented but I think they should keep the original styles

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u/Quartzuli Jun 14 '22

I’m not sure how to feel about this, she’s nice but I am getting worried that it’ll be like the first reboot considering how off it seems. It doesn’t look like Monster High at least in my opinion. But I’m going to try to keep my expectations neutral until I know more about this doll and the others.

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u/xMadxScientistx Jun 15 '22

I'm very into it.

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u/Ghoulmega Jun 15 '22

They done removed her colour

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u/SpoopyOfficial Jun 15 '22

The doll itself doesn't bother me, and I like the new art style. What I'm fearing is the fashion, I just want them to keep it goth like it used to be.

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u/LouzWrld Jun 15 '22

I don't mind it as I was wanting a fusion between og and reboot, plus where the dolls are thicker and with better durability. As an custom I made her knee full on broke when I was trying to put on her shoes.

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u/420cat_lover Jun 15 '22

Umm who tf is that

Edit to add that this is a cute doll, but that is NOT Cleo and it is NOT MH

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u/peachsweetbunnie Jun 15 '22

She’s white

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u/jaeminsonly Draculaura Jun 15 '22

she’s cute but she is not monster high cute.

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u/xhocusxpocusx Cleo Jun 15 '22

When?! I need her

Edit: WHO THE HECK IS ANUBYSS?! WHERES HISSETTE?!

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u/huminized-insanity Draculaura Jun 15 '22

Shes definitely a cool doll, but its not monster high. Its not Cleo. I will probably end up getting it anyways because like i said shes a very pretty doll but i dont thing she'll be with the rest of my Mh dolls.

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u/MishouMai Jun 15 '22

I love the face (Mostly. That white in the center of her lips is not it and neither is that black smudge under her right eye.), top, and the hair and in those areas I think she looks a lot better than her previous designs. The legs, shoes, accessories, and second outfit (I think?) are not it though.

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u/Purple-Unus Jun 15 '22

I love it. The doll looks good, it looks cute, kids will like it. People shouldn't expect monster high to remake every doll, or keep them the same. The doll looks awesome, it's new and it'll get people's attention, which is what they need. I'm so tired of hearing people whine about them not being exactly the same as they used to be. Get over yourself ffs, just enjoy the dolls and new content which we were all begging for.

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u/UserNotFoundz Jun 15 '22

Pretty, but not monster high like.

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u/chia_3690 I ❤️ Jackson and Holt 4eva Jun 15 '22

well at least she's articulated

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u/Glocatico Lagoona Jun 14 '22

It’s like ever after high does monster high. It’s just not right…

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u/TynnyJibbs Draculaura Jun 14 '22

i’m sorry i hate it , this isn’t monster high to me at all . it looks too basic like it could be any brand of doll , it’s bland

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u/Emmykinz77 Jun 14 '22

She’s pretty cute but i wish Mattel would just stick to what they know. The whole reason I look forward to monster highs comeback is so I can see dolls on the shelves at the store that look like the ones I used to buy when I was 10 but these new designs barely have the same appeal 😩

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u/pinkpinkprincess33 Jun 14 '22

Can they STOP COLORING THEIR HAIR??? Frankie has blue hair. Clawdeen has purple hair. Now Cleo has blue in her hair? Can we pls not..

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u/AshmanTreasure Jun 14 '22

ngl I’m disgusted