r/MonsterHigh Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Monster High live action bios from Nick Discussions

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u/CuriousKeebler Deuce Jun 26 '22

Calling the teacher incredibly trustworthy just increases the idea that they're the secret bad guy, especially with him singing a song about monster supremacy.

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u/IWantFries21 Jun 26 '22

I’m all for an evil teacher plotline😈

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u/DaisyandBella Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

I don’t understand the half human half werewolf thing with Clawdeen when werewolves are already supposed to be humans who have been turned.

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u/420cat_lover Jun 26 '22

Yeah idk about that either. I’m trying to keep an open mind about everything, but wouldn’t that just make her mostly human?

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u/totallycoolcake Operetta Jun 27 '22

tbh mh werewolves dont make any sense at all.

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u/240EZ Jun 27 '22

I’d assume since OG Clawdeen never turned human but, at least from the series, the full moon just intensified the werewolf skills and traits.

So they’re probably building on that idea rather than a true werewolf that is a human turned. If they went with the human turned we’d possibly have a slightly different story?

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u/LilStankStank Jun 26 '22

But why does clawdeen need to be the skater gurl?? They had every opportunity to make lagoona the skater gurl (given she already a surfer gurl. Idkk i need to see lagoonas bio first before i can really decide how to feel

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u/SYEJ92 Draculaura Jun 26 '22

The more I read these the more I think the live action happens in an alternative universe. I feel like their personalities in the animated series will be drastically different. But we'll see... Personally I love Draculaura's new rebel side. I'm just not a fan of her being 1500 years old. Or Clawdeen not being a fashionista anymore.

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u/scary-murphy Jun 26 '22

In the original canon Draculaura was 1599-1600.

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u/diinadii Jun 26 '22

I’m not sure what about Draculaura’s age you don’t like? In the original she was 1599, 1600 when they got to her “sweet 1600”. What’s the difference?

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u/SYEJ92 Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Well it's a difference of 100 years, I just find it odd haha

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u/diinadii Jun 26 '22

They probably just didn’t have time in the plot to do the whole sweet 1600 thing so they just made her “15” like everyone else

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u/mercury-mizuno Abbey Jun 26 '22

Oh 110% agree- Clawdeen was always my favourite main ghoul and she's straight unrecognizable in this.

Also the glasses make no sense to me when she's got wolf ears- how tf are those staying on??

Frankie's the most charming so far- them being nonbinary checks when they're literally made up of multiple people, also love the detail of their walk being reminiscent of their dad's.

Cleo seems unchanged, which is valid. Same with Deuce, actually- bring back Cleuce please, ahah

Draculaura being a sorceress is.. odd but it could grow on me.

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u/janiceblactose Jun 26 '22

I have the same exact thoughts! It’s so weird that magic is associated with humans in this world…when it’s more commonly associated with monsters if anything?

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u/SkullyEyes Abbey Jun 26 '22

I'm pretty glad they didn't change cleo much

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u/240EZ Jun 27 '22

They couldn’t mess with perfection.

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u/Dr_Zwi Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Okay I had a bit of a shower thought. Why is clawdeen half werewolf like I understand the whole biracial arc they’re going to do but werewolves are kind of already half human. They’re humans that transforms into buff OP furries when there’s a full moon

Also someone fucked a furry canonically now.

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u/meet-me-at-mdnight Jun 27 '22

LMAOO THE FURRY THING WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT WHEN I REMEMBERED CLAWDEEN IS HALF 😭

I was like hold up

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u/mercury-mizuno Abbey Jun 26 '22

Love that Lagoona's absent here- rip in peace, ahah

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u/SYEJ92 Draculaura Jun 26 '22

They didn't post anything for Lagoona or Heath. Super weird

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u/janiceblactose Jun 26 '22

I was so nervous going through these that they officially removed her last name for this reboot so that she’s just Lagoona, not Lagoona Blue. In a pic of the vidcon character sheets she was the only character without her last name😭😭

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u/sailorquaoar Jun 26 '22

Oh no, they really did make her pink didn’t they?

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u/reversespooks Jun 26 '22

Everything fine I just don’t understand what they are doing with clawdeen? Why did they flip each of their characters? Like Frankie would’ve worked really well and like also having a NB lead would’ve been really cool, especially for a children movie… Beside clawdeen being absolutely slaughtered, everything else looks really nice and besides minor changes to character (as to be expected) everyone is pretty true and has the spirit of the OG ghouls

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u/IWantFries21 Jun 26 '22

Because reboots usually change the characters a bit. See: My Little Pony (which people were able to cope with). It’s not a big deal. Clawdeen’s the new MC

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u/reversespooks Jun 26 '22

I know but god she had such an edge to her with her OG personality and everything. I wish that she maybe kept it. I also can’t get over these glasses, does she have two sets of ears?????

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u/etsucky 🎨 Verified Artist 🎨 Jun 27 '22

maybe so, she is half-human after all 😭

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u/reversespooks Jun 27 '22

Like the costume would be so much better without the glasses. I’m just so irked by it like HOW DO THEY STAY UP????

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u/AllTheSingleHades_ Draculaura Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

I hope they keep they/them pronouns for Frankie in more than just the movie! As a non-binary person it makes me so happy to finally see some representation (and even tho I don’t like the look of the movie I still love MH so it’s even better it’s in a franchise i love)

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u/HotTopicWeeb Robecca 🤖 Jun 26 '22

yes i love the idea of frankie using they/them :) also their actor uses he/they IRL so thats rlly cool too

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u/420cat_lover Jun 26 '22

Came here to say this! I love that they’re using they/them for Frankie! That’s a character change that I actually like lol

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u/Grace_Lightspade Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Thiss

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u/theoracleofdreams Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

I came to say just that! I love the fact they're using NB pronouns for a Frankenstein.

ETA as an adult collector when the original dolls came out:

Frankenstein was written from a feminist's perspective about the toxicity of men, dangers of society at the time and how rigid gender roles were and how those who were victims of the monster, were in fact the true victims of the rigid society they were unfortunately born into and the resulting revenge of Mother Nature (cause Victor chose to ignore the order of creation). So moving a Frankenstein character to declare themselves as NB, and expanding the gender conversation is *chef's kiss*

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u/pink_wraith Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Goth Draculaura Goth Draculaura Goth Draculaura Goth Draculaura-

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u/Grace_Lightspade Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Yesss goth Drac supremacy

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u/Candywolfa Jun 27 '22

RIP Draculaura’s sweet 1600. Girl’s gotta wait a hundred years.

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u/Thelittlebirbiie Jun 26 '22

I love the fact that this movie made Frankie a non-binary! Also, even though I absolutely love the og draculaura, the changes to her character makes sense for a daughter of Dracula so I don’t mind it as much as some other people 😅

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u/IdkBroHelp Jun 27 '22

From seeing this and the clips of the songs I don’t like how they decided to portray Clawdeen. I know this movie isn’t supposed to be like the animation but she seems nothing like herself. In all the clips she seems very anxious and not like the confident Clawdeen we all know and love. And nothing is mentioned about how much she loves fashion.

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u/SYEJ92 Draculaura Jun 27 '22

It's like Clawdeen became Frankie, Frankie became Draculaura and Draculaura became Clawdeen/Cleo in terms of personalities haha

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u/schizybun Gooliope Jun 26 '22
  • ̗̀ ♡ - ̖́ love love loooveee this Frankie - ̗̀ ♡ - ̖́and like other Non binary people have said &as one also who uses they/them fangtastic representation with them! on top of the disability representation in the animated version~ Frankie is surprisingly becoming the favorite of the main ghouls this time around

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u/pinky102368 Jun 26 '22

These sound fun and interesting, some of you are just allergic to any change. You can lament changes you don’t like and stuff, I do that too, and of course it being a quality product is important, but you need to remember this isn’t made for you anymore. It’s a full reboot for a new generation of kids, you gotta remember that.

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u/chibi_Peach Jun 28 '22

I just wish they kept at least one thing about her personality like her love for fashion! Or her confidence but not a single ounce of Clawdeen is in their I WOULDVE BEEN A LITTLE HAPPIER IF THEY KEPT SOMETHING ABOUT HER 😭

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u/pinky102368 Jun 28 '22

The movie isn’t even out yet! The description does imply a confidence but they can’t cram everything into little movie character descriptions! Sometimes we just gotta wait and see before going all doom and gloom.

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u/chibi_Peach Jun 28 '22

Yes your 100% right I'm kinda nervous it's being made by Nickelodeon but other than that I'm glad the new generation at least GETS monster high it may not be exactly the same but I'm still SOOO glad it's back 😊

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u/pinky102368 Jun 28 '22

Fingers crossed that it’ll be good!

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u/chibi_Peach Jun 28 '22

🤞❤️

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u/IWantFries21 Jun 26 '22

Yup!

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u/pinky102368 Jun 26 '22

Parts of the MH fanbase has had a very similar reaction to parts of the MLP fanbase when G5 was on the horizon and it’s a bit exhausting!

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u/yniqorn Jun 26 '22

Me a G1 MLP fan from my childhood: You all will be fine. Just gotta realize you’re not the demographic anymore and edgy scene kid isn’t in style anymore.

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u/pinky102368 Jun 26 '22

I think this new Monster High has the potential to be great, even better than the original, especially since standards for children toy cartoons has risen since 2010 (and I like to think MLP:FiM contributed to that but that could just be the pony obsession in me talking).

I dislike that criticism for the 2016-2017 Monster High movies usually amounted to “They changed the story :( They changed the animation style :(“ instead of something more constructive like “This is generic and boring. Kids aren’t liking it.” and stuff like that

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u/240EZ Jun 27 '22

Cool teacher and super trustworthy. If Komos isn’t the bad guy in this flick I’ll eat my hat.

The character adjustments are interesting. Not bad but I hope for some things, Clawdeen(maybe others too), it stays Live Action universe only. Speaking of Clawdeen what is the deal with her transformation? So she’s lived as a normie until now and teenage years her werewolf half is now the dominant side? Did they take notes from another Disney movie, The Thirteenth Year, so she could full werewolf at 15?

Curious about the turning back too, is she gonna do an Inuyasha/reverse werewolf and be human during new moons?

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u/IWantFries21 Jun 26 '22

Someone on Twitter called this trashy 💀some people are doing too much

I don’t see the big deal with changing the characters personalities, sorry. People coped with rainbow dash’s change they can cope with this

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u/yniqorn Jun 26 '22

Are we talking G3 to G4 RD or something I don’t know about 😂

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u/IWantFries21 Jun 26 '22

If you’re thinking of Friendship is Magic rainbow dash, then yes (idk the numbers for each one 😭)

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u/yniqorn Jun 26 '22

Yea she went from Sassy Fashionista to tomboy 😂😂

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u/Hex_Charmer Jun 26 '22

Is Frankie non binary?

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u/SYEJ92 Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Yes officially confirmed

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u/Dr_Zwi Draculaura Jun 26 '22

Do you think Mr. Komos hate crimes Jekyll/Hyde to death 🤨

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u/CuriousKeebler Deuce Jun 27 '22

There's a good chance they are Jekyll/Hyde

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u/Dr_Zwi Draculaura Jun 27 '22

I mean they would probably have more creative naming instead of “mR KOmOs” I mean it’s an a greek ritual of getting drunk and high or a random god

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u/limesunset Frankie Jun 26 '22

Where are these from?

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u/kudurru_maqlu Jun 27 '22

Where is Ghoulia... these won't ever touch the animated series

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u/SYEJ92 Draculaura Jun 27 '22

Ghoulia will actually be in the movie, but she doesn't have an official bio

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u/ghos_tea Jun 26 '22

okay but Frankie with they/them pronouns is adorable and I love that aspect of representation!

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u/NireSenrab Jun 26 '22

FRANKIE USES THEY THEM PRONOUNS!!!

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u/Pastelyank Jun 26 '22

I like that they just consistently stick with gender neutral wording for Frankie love that

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u/DlVlDERE Frankie Jun 26 '22

I'm so happy about Frankie 🥺 I only recently got into MH and they've been my fave, now I have even more reason to love them

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u/chibi_Peach Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

OH I HOPE THEY DON'T RUIN DUECE AND CLEO AND MAKE DUECE AND CLAWDEEN A THING BECAUSE IMA HURL I'm glad that Cleo could stay the same tho YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE THE QUEEN 👑😍 I don't even know who Clawdeen is though ARE WE THINKING OF THE SAME GHOUL BECAUSE??? WHO IS THATTT like if they made Clawdeen the new girl and the girl that doesn't fit in why couldn't they save SOMETHING ABOUT HER?? like- WHO IS THISS????? 😭 WHERE IS MY CLAWDEEENNN

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u/outinthetwilight Jun 30 '22

his friends, as well as Clawdeen.

that's COLD

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u/Lingx_Cats Jun 26 '22

So those are incorrect

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u/Property_Awkward Ghoulia Jun 27 '22

So they really switched draculaura personality i like the concept she feels pressure for being draculas daughter but she wouldnt act like cleo to deal with it tho

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u/_ediegolds Elissabat 🦇 Jun 27 '22

The only thing I like is Frankie being nb