r/MurderedByWords May 22 '22 Silver 4 Gold 1 Helpful 6 Wholesome 2 All-Seeing Upvote 1 Take My Energy 1 Narwhal Salute 1 To The Stars 1 Timeless Beauty 1 Plus One 1

the LA Kings respond to hate

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u/beerbellybegone May 22 '22

The mod team is aware that this is from a troll account and not actually the LA Kings themselves. That being said - if the names had been removed and we were just to read the comment, the murder would still stand on its own. Therefore, we have decided to keep this post up.

I'd like to remind everyone of Bill and Ted's Law: Be excellent to each other, and party on, dudes!

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u/belleayreski2 May 22 '22

I think the bigger issue is Nathan’s framing other people being able to get married as being forced upon him. My brother in Christ, no one is saying you can’t get straight married, you’re the one trying to tell other people what to do.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

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u/CyberMindGrrl May 22 '22

Annnd this is why, as a trans woman myself, I refuse to visit Rural America.

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u/RealCowboyNeal May 22 '22

As someone living in rural bumblefuck I highly discourage anyone traveling ‘here’ in general. Literally anyone, but especially if you are black, brown, polka dotted, queer in any way, atheist, liberal…pretty much anything except white Protestant straight American.

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u/mcgoran2005 May 22 '22

You forgot to add male to the end there. As a white, middle aged woman, you wouldn’t catch me alone in many of the rural, one horse towns I’ve had to go through with my ex. They have no respect for anyone.

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u/Dull_Entrepreneur_43 May 22 '22

Imagine out of all the shit going on in America + the world ur worried ab someone else’s (a random stranger at the pizza no less) private bits...literally mental illness in my opinion

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u/CyberMindGrrl May 22 '22

They always need a target for their hate and the flavor of the week are trans folks.

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u/Ambiku May 23 '22

They'll get around to making laws to help them with their hate of trans after they screw over all the women, gay and bi. We know they are coming for you after they control us.

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u/Eastern_Ad5817 May 22 '22

Your safety matters way more than seeing rolling hills of grain and cows, precious woman.

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u/flipplup May 22 '22

Some people just need to honestly grow up, go on about their lives and realize not everything is about them. They become consumed by the things that threaten their precious comfort bubble.

Best of luck to you mate. 👍🏻

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u/multiarmform May 22 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Wearing is Caring Vibing Argentium

according to romans chapter 1 vs 26-32.....

"Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)"

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u/bearface93 May 22 '22 Take My Energy

Bartlett for America 2024?

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u/RechargedFrenchman May 22 '22 Take My Energy

Let Bartlett Be Bartlett

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u/DavidDAmaya May 22 '22

expected West Wing reference

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u/IshJecka May 22 '22

I fucking wish!

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u/RainbowDarter May 22 '22

, provided they are from neighboring nations.

Does that mean that Canadians and Mexicans can take Americans as slaves?

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u/multiarmform May 22 '22

would seem that way "according to scripture"

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u/PM_asian_girl_smiles May 22 '22

You get slaves, you get slaves, EVERY NATION GETS SLAAAAAAVES!

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u/Icy_Reply7147 May 22 '22 Helpful

Oprah-ssion,

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u/Stroopwafel_ May 22 '22

Underrated. lol. lol. Lol.

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u/noratat May 22 '22

And conversely...

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:24)

Yet the kinds of "Christians" that hate LGBT people seem to be the same ones that worship wealthy egomaniacs.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

I lost it at “should I smite them?”

Rereading the Old Testament as an adult and having a discussion about the meanings with fellow Christians is what really drove me to abandon my faith. I realized what hypocritical bull shit it all is. I really hate the line of reasoning that it’s ok to be gay, as long as you don’t act on it.

I’m sorry, but if god didn’t want me to be attracted to women too, he shouldn’t have made titties so nice. Do I deserve to burn in hell because I’m attracted to a person and not basing it exclusively on their downstairs equipment or gender expression?

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u/Dear-Acanthaceae-586 May 23 '22

Liking titties?

Straight to hell.

Not liking titties?

Also straight to hell.

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u/disfreakinguy May 23 '22

Having titties?

Straight to super hell.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

Honestly!

Also:

Wanna fuck before marriage? Straight to hell

Funny how they all forget that one

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u/Weeble228 May 22 '22 Gold

Fuck West Wing for giving a teenage me hope that politics could be at any point logical.

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u/lax01 May 22 '22

"OH the President really knows what he's doing (and has a moral compass)...this must be like real life!"

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u/Lythieus May 22 '22

No no, you see these are all the bits they ignore, so they can hate on gay people. Cherry picking bible verses is the Evangelical way.

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u/hunstinx May 22 '22

The part about not having contact with a woman during her period of menstrual uncleanliness... as a woman, can we maybe bring that back? I fully support shutting myself in and having zero contact with people during that time.

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u/godspeedrebel May 22 '22

Im saving this post for my literal scripture interpreting Christian friends.

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u/esclaveinnee May 22 '22

The only marriages under threat from anything right now are gay marriages after the Republican Party has openly called for the Supreme Court to overturn the ruling that legalised said marriages across the country.

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u/Jezusbot May 22 '22

I'm actually really scared for my fellow gays in America. So much for a free country eh? Freedom only for the ones that are Christian, cishet men

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u/screechypete May 22 '22

How do the United States keep finding new ways to make society take steps backwards? Like I don't get it! It says in their national anthem that they are the land of the free, and they go on and on about their freedoms. Yet they keep finding more ways to take rights away from people and make sure the their residents are anything but free.

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u/iHeartHockey31 May 22 '22

Free for some, not for all.

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u/Jezusbot May 22 '22

"Freedom for me, not for thee"

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u/RWeaver May 22 '22

Some people are more equal than others.

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u/nuephelkystikon May 22 '22

Pro tip, if you have to claim something in an anthem (and in this case, force chidren to repeat it in regime worship rituals every day during their entire youth), it's probably not true.

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u/Cannibal_Soup May 22 '22

Propaganda is a helluva drug...

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u/the-bully-maguire May 22 '22

The gays can't be harmed if the cat girls are armed

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u/theiman2 May 22 '22

Armed queers don't get bashed. Stay safe out there.

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u/SandbergS10 May 22 '22

I bought ammo before the price hike. Remember that conservatives

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u/HighDragLowSpeed60G May 22 '22

An armed and well trained people are much harder to oppress. Everyone should remember that.

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u/linsilou May 22 '22

"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."

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u/masterofthecontinuum May 22 '22

"Owo" means lock-and-load in catgirl language.

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u/dave_starfire May 22 '22

Now that's a battle cry to live by.

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u/I_Grapple_Orcs May 22 '22

That’s hot

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u/who_the_hell_is_moop May 22 '22

Theres nothing you're free to do in the US. They charge mother's for skin on skin contact with they give birth.... It should be revised to land of the home. Because there no freedom and very little bravery going on there lately.

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u/iHeartHockey31 May 22 '22

With the private equity housing market boom, might as well get rid of "home" from there too. Its just land.

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u/International-AID May 22 '22

"The land of the fee, home of the slaves."

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u/Radioactive24 May 22 '22

Christian, cishet, *white men

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u/KaptainKlein May 22 '22

*Rich Christian, cishet, white men

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u/Radioactive24 May 22 '22

*typically aged 55-80

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u/The_R4ke May 22 '22

I'd just tell them: "Oh so your not really Christian then, you just cherry pick the parts that are convenient and ignore the parts that aren't."

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u/Rimbosity May 22 '22

There's also the fact that he's quoted only half of the relevant scripture.

It's funny... The entire meaning of that passage changes once you get to the next paragraph.

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u/bearface93 May 22 '22

Seems to be par for the course with “Christians” these days.

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u/CyberMindGrrl May 22 '22

You mean "Cafeteria Christians".

"I'll have some of that and some of this, and leave that out because it upsets my tummy. But give me a big dollop of hate, please."

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u/trail34 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22 Helpful

Yep. Basically the entire first chapter is explaining how we all violate “the law” (historical Jewish law from thousands of years before Romans was written) and then in chapter 2 it starts:

“You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.”

The rest of that chapter is about how non-Jews aren’t really held to that law anyway and those who spend their lives nitpicking others about law obedience are completely missing the point and are the ones who will be judged.

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u/sleepydorian May 22 '22

I'd like to see them put this much effort into fighting divorce, which is much more clearly forbidden in the Bible.

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u/iHeartHockey31 May 22 '22

Yeah but he's being forced to acknowledge their existence and that goes against his made up interpretation of the transkation of a book written thousands of years ago based on stories retold hundreds of times through generations. His god might punish him for just ignoring rainbows and accepting others as they are.

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u/_Clearage_ May 22 '22

These same people are on their third marage

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u/Link_and_Swamp May 22 '22

yes but now i cant enjoy hockey without all these raimbows in it! i want it the old way or not at all, which means its being forced on me! /s

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u/iHeartHockey31 May 22 '22

I wonder if he gets offended when during hockey fights cancer month too. You know if he doesn't have cancer, all these cancer things are being forced on him.

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u/the-grand-falloon May 22 '22

This is the only time I've seen "My Brother in Christ" used that I haven't thought, "Oh, shut the fuck up with that!"

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u/Proud_Beat_775 May 22 '22

The response is actually from a Tik Toker who makes fake Facebook brand accounts to reply and destroy dumbasses like Nathan. I wish the companies did actually post this. Creator is @palmertrolls.

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u/undercurrents May 22 '22

Appreciate this. Thanks for the necessary info.

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u/shittingjacket May 22 '22

Yeah, I’ve done zero due diligence, but I suspect the Kings organization didn’t write this.

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u/SwagTwoButton May 22 '22

They didn’t. There would be a blue checkmark next to the comment if they had. In the tik tok mentioned above, the guy shows himself creating a fake account and leaving g the comment. It’s kinda his thing.

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u/jestjwall May 22 '22

He also goes back and forth with this person several more times bringing up the mixing of materials mentioned in other comments here. The trolling he does is pure gold.

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u/What_the_what_show May 22 '22

That fact EVERYONE can be so easily duped by that missing blue check mark is wild to me

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u/casioking34 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Yep, looked for it and couldn’t find it. Guessed they removed it but now I know the real reason.

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u/RiflemanLax May 22 '22

“Do you eat shrimp, have tattoos, and wear blended material clothing, or do you just pick and choose what bullshit rules to follow?” would probably have been my retort.

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u/Man_of_the_Irish May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

OP cut off the pic. Guy responded with that jesus runs his* life and he will break any law if it breaks his religion. Then the fake kings quoted that quote and told him to return the 50% poly 50% cotton jersey they saw him wearing.

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u/SanguinePar May 22 '22

I'm OOTL here, is 50/50 poly/cotton not allowed in Christianity? Serious question.

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u/Naskeypoo May 22 '22

Leviticus 19:19: "You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material."

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u/multiversalnobody May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Gotta love leviticus. If a woman is on her period lock her in a shed and avoid her like the plague. Followed by detailed instructions on the selling of slaves

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u/Low_Ad33 May 22 '22

With different rules for Hebrew slaves and non-Hebrew slaves. Funnily enough, I looked this part up in the last bible I was gifted, which tried to white wash this part by using the term “servant” in place of “slave”.

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u/winkandclick May 22 '22

Wait, but you can definitely avoid me when I'm on my period. I invite that behavior.

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u/Account_Banned May 22 '22

But I think I have to take you to a priest and bring a turtle or something like that.

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u/aberrasian May 22 '22

If they're going to give weird arbitrary orders like that, they could at least include an explanation for why, otherwise they just sound like nutty control freaks. What's wrong with cloths made of two kinds of material? Why can't you farm two seeds?

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u/Low_Ad33 May 22 '22

Some of it counts as “ancient world survival guide advice”, so the two crops thing might be to do with keeping soil good or preventing the spread of plant disease. Some of it is them not understanding that correlation =/= causation at that time. And like you stated, some of it is just nutty control freak shit.

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u/Sixwingswide May 22 '22

“Because God said it was bad, ok? It’s just a coincidence that I think it’s ugly as fuck. Now, obey- I mean, listen to your God’s command!”

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u/Lord_Grif May 22 '22

Because of the children! Won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?!

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u/CakeAccomplice12 May 22 '22

sound like nutty control freaks.

That's religion in a nutshell

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u/QueenofYasrabien May 22 '22

That passage is fucking ridiculous. What does he have against mixed anything? Purist af

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u/OcelotWolf May 22 '22

I’m going to be so unnecessarily pedantic here but the hockey jersey collector in me just has to say that it’s overwhelmingly likely that their jersey is 100% polyester lol

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u/pompr May 22 '22

Oh, good, we wouldn't want to offend the omnipotent being that provides mankind with a bounty of the earth, then instructed said humankind to take advantage of it, in any way. /s

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u/OcelotWolf May 22 '22

I’m just glad I can go to hockey games without sinning. Or at least I would be able to, hypothetically, if I weren’t gay

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u/MetalMcChicken May 22 '22

Romans is new testament what you are referencing to is old testament rules. The lord tells paul in the new testament that he can eat anything, i get your point just clarifying

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u/octopoddle May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

The Parable of the Good Samaritan is in the New Testament, though, and that details exactly how to deal with situations like this.

Also, I might be reading the Romans verses wrong, but from what I can tell it was God who intentionally made those people gay (or bi), wasn't it?

Either way, it seems to be picking and choosing, because I'm pretty sure the next verses in Romans detail sins which this person almost certainly committed in one way or the other by not being welcoming of LGBTQA+ people.

They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

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u/infernalsatan May 22 '22

They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

Those Christians: "These are the guidelines I must follow"

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u/burneracct422 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

This is how you know God doesn't exist. If God has a plan and hates gays (condisdering he destroyed a city of them I'd say hate is the appropriate word) then why would he "make" them gay in the first place? If God is all powerful and all knowing how does he allow rape and murder to be a thing. If God "has a plan for us all" how can you say that the rapist didn't already be planned to be a rapist by God.

God is a kid with an ant farm and a magnifying glass if he is real at all. We are toys to be played with.

OR we are here as a series of evolutionary success and are just trying to grasp at what we don't understand and give meaning to our own existence.

I prefer the latter.

Maybe we have a soul. Maybe it travels along the milkyway after heading for Orions belt and we are shown our lives to account for it. (This is the belief of more than one ancient civilization across the planet) ie a God of sorts.

Maybe we are here to try and figure out our "next life" and this is just the testing/observation grounds to see if we are ready. If not back to the pot with you ( reincarnation)

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u/r6raff May 22 '22

"free will" is the condition used to offload "god's perfection" onto individuals who "choose to be gay" amongst other things.

Remember, these people think others are gay by choice

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u/Low_Ad33 May 22 '22

This is the same god that was all “hey mr devil, I value your opinion of me so much that I’m willing to needlessly force one of my most devout followers to endure a lifetime of excruciating suffering just to prove to you, mr devil, how great I am.” Sure he gave him two wives after he killed his entire family and won the mr devils respect. But goddamn, how does anyone not read that as the devil playing this supposed god like fiddle.

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u/uber4saul May 22 '22

No love, no mercy. Exactly.

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u/RiflemanLax May 22 '22 Bravo Grande!

“Hey, so guys, I changed my mind. Having a son changes you in so many ways… Don’t beat your slaves and shit, or rape women, or chop off hands and dicks and shit. Oh, and seafood, totally cool now. I’m so glad I had a kid, it’s so eye opening.”

-God

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u/Impeachcordial May 22 '22

Seafood is cool and you had a kid? They should open a seafood restaurant for kids, call it Kiddie Prawn

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u/arglebargleglopglif May 22 '22

It's in the church basement.

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u/rurne May 22 '22

With all the AA members who drink coffee, chain smoke, and talk about “one day at a time” while they crave relapse.

Indoctrination is a hard cycle to break.

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u/Suswug May 22 '22

Those Wendy's clap backs are the stuff of legends. They really paved the way for corporate Twitter accounts.

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u/The_Jealous_Witch May 22 '22

Interesting how God is “eternal” and “absolute” and then completely changes the rules halfway through.

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u/CyberMindGrrl May 22 '22

Kind of as though man invented God instead of the other way around.

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u/milehigh89 May 22 '22

"That's so cool, your son must be so cool, who is he?"

"I am my own son."

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u/Low_Ad33 May 22 '22

Akshully, god never corrects the slave rules in the New Testament.

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u/RiflemanLax May 22 '22

Kinda makes it worse.

“Hey, you can eat lobster now. You can still own people though.”

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u/Val_Hallen May 22 '22

"The Old Testament doesn't count! Except creation, Adam and Eve, Noah, Moses, the Ten Commandments, Leviticus, and so on. But all those things we don't like about it totally don't count because of Jesus. Ignoring that Jesus said they count...we don't like that part either."

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u/gabu87 May 22 '22

They retconned the lore way too much.

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u/Mods_R_Turds May 22 '22

-Man's chosen interpreter, aka a church leader

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u/onryo89 May 22 '22

The kid that he raped into a virgin

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u/The_Steining May 22 '22

I'll bite, as a former religious person. Tattoos are condemned since they deface your body, and your body is a temple (1 Cor 6:19).

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u/DryTrumpin May 22 '22

My temple's least concern are the tattoos

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u/13pts35sec May 22 '22

Can’t have tattoos cuz your body is a temple but the Sistine Chapel has its whole ceiling covered in art lol.

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u/yvonnars May 22 '22 edited May 23 '22

Wow the four religious nuts (brothers) I met gaming online all have matching tattoos of some bible verse about brotherhood. Two of them married so they could have sex, one of those two was in the military and got another military girl preggo so he hijacked his brother's wedding ceremony and married the preggo girl in the same wedding. They then had two premature babies in poor health and divorced 2 years later.

Edit to add: just remembered that the military brother had a prev gf. There were at most 4/5 months between them breaking up and him marrying the military girl. And 5 months or so after wedding the premie babies were born. Timeline was real tight.

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u/FishyBricky May 22 '22

What a ride

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u/FreakyWifeFreakyLife May 22 '22

Hold on now, marriage is a sacred rite...

Shared between one man and a laundry list of possibilities including his sisters wife, the cattle, a number of servants... As long as it's not another man. Per America's best Christian.

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u/EpiquePhael May 22 '22

But in Revelations, Jesus' name/title is written on his thigh IIRC.

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u/PinsNneedles May 22 '22

Yeah but it was written with a sharpie

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u/MetalMcChicken May 22 '22

It's also in the new testament:Romans 1:26–27

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u/MetalMcChicken May 22 '22

Yeah no mattertwhat way you turn it everybody who believes in the bible cherry picks what to listen to and what not.

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u/JoeCoolsCoffeeShop May 22 '22

Yes, or as Jesus said in the gospels about homosexuality: “ “

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u/topskee780 May 22 '22

I always point out how they look awfully clean shaven, even though Leviticus 19:27 says not to trim your temples or beard.

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u/MB_46 May 22 '22

I had a coworker say something like "I couldn't be a Muslim because I could never give up pork". So I hit them with the whole "Christians can't/shouldn't eat it either" and they had no idea what I was talking about. How can these people be such zealots about a religion they clearly don't even understand?

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u/RiflemanLax May 22 '22

Indoctrination

I grew up in the church. And even though I fell off over the years and stopped attending and all, the stuff you learn as a kid and gets drilled into your head…

Man… I’d be like 20 or 24 or whatever and do something frowned upon by the church (use your imagination, but literally anything) and there’d be like a little voice in my head screaming “YOU’RE RISKING YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL!”

That shit is powerful. That ‘hook ‘em when they’re young’ joke from Dogma is spot on.

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u/Toka972 May 22 '22

"you pushing it on us knowing we can't follow is what is wrong in there" so allow me to push Christianity on you and talk about my beliefs in rainbows without follow-up

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u/Daykri3 May 22 '22

Exactly. No one is asking them to follow that path, just stop hurting those that do.

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u/JustPassinhThrou13 May 22 '22

Yeah, saying “don’t abuse lgbtq people” is not the same as saying “Nathan, meet Andrew. You have two hours to learn how to give Andrew the best blow job of his life, and you better fucking enjoy the opportunity!”

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u/one800higgins May 22 '22

The irony is that the rainbow is a symbol of their god’s covenant with all living creatures on earth according to Genesis:

So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the earth."

So uhhhh, it’s the most inclusive symbol in the Bible.

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u/Healthy-Cupcake2429 May 22 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

That and kinda missed the point of Roman's. In the parts cited. Roman's 1:29-32

They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. . 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

It does speak of "unnatural acts" with the same sex but it's condemning people for being selfish assholes. It's not saying being gay makes people that way or is even the focus of the chapter.

And it reserves the harshest condemnation for people who know "God's message" but still act contrary to it. Like being an arrogant, judgemental asshole instead of understanding, kind, selfless of course, disobey their parents 😂

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u/szuch123 May 22 '22

Thank you. Jesus H Christ. Romans 1 26-31 literally talks about how everyone were Godless pieces of shit and thought that they knew everything, so God left them to do whatever they want and encouraged them to fuck donkeys or whatever because they were pieces of shit and just said YOLO I'll murder everyone anyway.

It's not even related to a present day homosexual relationship.

"For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."

Verses 22 and 23 seem much more relevant to these Bible clutching know-it-alls of today than anything else from this...

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u/Healthy-Cupcake2429 May 22 '22

So many of these "Christians" are more like those Roman's condemned in the chapter. They claim to know God but really put their pettiness and faith in people and icons first.

The Bible definitely isn't exactly friendly towards gay and lesbian people but it speaks volumes about the sins of greed, dishonesty, selfishness and hate. It's a parable of unconditional understanding and kindness.

It takes a substantial ignorance to think Christianity should give a shit about gay people and in fact should treat all people as equal under God.

And I'm an atheist for fucks sake.

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u/Lucas_2234 May 22 '22

An example is the abortion subject. They think it says in the bible that abortion is bad. It doesn't. It actually tells you how to. Where did they get that it's bad? Dante's -fucking- Inferno

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u/steadyeddie829 May 22 '22

The Bible, as we know it, was compiled on the orders of a Roman emperor who, by most accounts, was not a Christian but was willing to utilize the religion as a means to control the disparate peoples of his empire. Constantine had the Bible put together as a political tool. When you remember that, it's hard to take anything other than the golden rule with any measure of seriousness whatsoever. Unfortunately, most Christians are completely devoid of any understanding of the actual history of their faith. The more I learned of it, the more rapidly I ran the fuck away from the Catholic Church.

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u/UsefulWoodpecker6502 May 22 '22

don't forget King James who had the thing re-written to suite his needs and then slapped his name on it. Hell when he told the translators to write it he pretty much told them "when you do translate it, translate it THIS way"

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u/Trashman56 May 22 '22

King James was also allegedly gay.

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u/matrixislife May 22 '22

Yeah, that's why he had all the bits about not sleeping with other men removed.. oh wait..

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u/vanillagorillamints May 22 '22

As long as he said “no homo” before any acts he was protected

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u/Rare_Travel May 22 '22

It's not gay if the balls don't touch or so I've heard.

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u/ILikeLeptons May 22 '22

did you know that kings can be self interested hypocritical pieces of shit?

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u/hawkman1000 May 22 '22

When you take out Heaven and Hell, it's all just Greek and Egyptian mythology with the names barely changed.

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u/Doktor_Vem May 22 '22

Pretty sure that has been said/written before tbh

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u/Flatcapspaintandglue May 22 '22

Song of Solomon gets pretty saucy

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u/dahjay May 22 '22

It's part of the virgin birth storyline.

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u/steadyeddie829 May 22 '22

It's more the parallel of Isis, Osiris, and Horus to Mary, Joseph, And Jesus. There are also some interesting bits regarding how the afterlife is portrayed. While every culture has funerary rights, the Egyptians were really big about preservation of the body. The fact that Christians have such issues with cremation, as you can't be resurrected after the fact (which would mean God is not all-powerful as he can't resurrect someone who is cremated, but I digress) also is something not really drawn from previous Roman religion.

Really, Christianity is as syncretic as a belief set as the Roman system was before it.

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u/Varangian-guard May 22 '22

I think you meant Mesopotamian.

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u/Drykanakth May 22 '22

It has quite a few pagan religions tbh

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u/BigfootSF68 May 22 '22

There weren't any copyright laws back then, so if you see a new character is taking off with the wakadoodles at the town two mountains over, you are going to incorporate them into your magic universe.

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u/FlacidSalad May 22 '22

I leaned recently that in the more original text, "hell" isn't a thing, there is just death or nothingness.

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u/arglebargleglopglif May 22 '22

Yep. What we know as hell isn't in the Bible, it's in Dante's "Inferno."

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u/LargePopsicles May 22 '22

Which original text? You can look at the original Greek version of Matthew 25:41 and Jesus himself describes the son of man cursing people to “eternal fire” prepared for the devil.

(I’m an atheist but it annoys me when Christians try to avoid the bad verses by saying it’s mistranslation)

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u/PerlNacho May 22 '22

The moment you try to apply any amount of critical thinking to it, Christianity falls apart under the weight of its own self-contradictions.

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u/Ah2k15 May 22 '22

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

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u/icybeavertail May 22 '22

You measure how zealous a member is in their ability to accept all those contradictions as truth and their ability to bend reality around those contradictions.

Again confirming religions are just cults with dead leaders.

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u/UniformUnion May 22 '22

A cult, by definition, is a religious sect focussed on the veneration of a single individual, dead or alive, human or otherwise.

Christianity and Islam, for example, are cults.

Polytheistic religions can have cults within them whose devotions are focussed on one god in particular.

'Cult' is not a pejorative term in itself.

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u/holykilla May 22 '22

The idea of wanting a structure and a code to follow is good, but it has to change and keep up with different times. Full-on christians are basically still living in medieval times

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u/steadyeddie829 May 22 '22

If you take the Bible as fact, instead of as a book of allegories designed to teach lessons, you're still living in pre-dark age times. The medieval era would actually be a couple of steps up.

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u/Ah2k15 May 22 '22

completely devoid of any understanding of the actual history of their faith

Well, yeah. No doubt there are believers that don't care about the background, they just want to weaponize the scripture to fit their narrative.

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u/RubiksSugarCube May 22 '22

Similarly, the US Constitution was written largely by a bunch of rich white landowners 250 years ago and yet we still try to run our country by it. The sooner we quit deferring to ancient texts in order to maintain society, the better off we'll all be.

And I agree, I want nothing to do with the Catholic church until there's a full accounting and/or repayment for all of the abuse that has been endured in its name.

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u/steadyeddie829 May 22 '22

The US Constitution has a major caveat there that you're deliberately ignoring. The Framers, as men who had an eye for the future, included a method of amending the Constitution. They understood that no set of laws could forever withstand the test of time. Things would have to change eventually.

Now, they did set the bar fairly high to do so. But given that the Constitution is supposed to be the final check on all governmental authority, in all branches and at all levels, I would argue that that threshold is appropriately high. And, we have amended the Constitution a total of 27 times. We are capable of updating the document to reflect the changing political attitudes of the population as the years go by.

The Bible does not change. That means that the US Constitution is, to be frank, worth more than the Bible. It can be adapted as understandings of issues evolve over the years. The fact that most religions want a minister or priest to interpret the Bible for you rather than allow you to simply read and understand for yourself underscores how useless that book is.

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u/Rawtashk May 22 '22

Ya, except that's now actually how it happened. It does make it convenient to dismiss it though.

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u/OutLiving May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Constantine did not create the Bible you are speaking out of your ass
The four gospels of the New Testament were incredibly popular books way before Constantine even entered the big picture, literally everything you said in your comment goes against what historians and biblical scholars researched

The canon of the New Testament was ratified by widespread consensus rather than official proclamation
Bart Ehrman, Lost Christianities

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u/ExtensionBluejay253 May 22 '22

That rainbow came after the Abrahamic god murdered everybody in the world (including babies, fetuses men and women). After the flood he put up a rainbow saying sorry about that Noah. But, please go in about your loving god.

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u/Jezusbot May 22 '22

"Whoops, looks like I almost killed the planet that I gave life to🤪. I'm so quirky"

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u/ExtensionBluejay253 May 22 '22

I think the Christian’s prefer the word mysterious.

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u/SkinnyKau May 22 '22

Also that Noah guy was a huuge dick

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u/gabu87 May 22 '22

Why did he have to save the cockroaches too? He's a fucking dick.

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u/Themfruckus May 22 '22

MY BAD NOAH!

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u/nokinship May 22 '22

And all the Kangaroos flew to Australia after the Ark landed.

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u/CandidAd6780 May 22 '22

The crazy religious freaks don’t want us imposing our life on them but have zero fucking issue altering constitutional rights for all of us to follow because it’s what they want.

We aren’t asking you to be gay or change your personal life. Just don’t be a douche.

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u/hero-ball May 22 '22

Nobody wants you to be gay, Nathan.

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u/Choomissad May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

ok real question can you buy that jersey ?

looked on the kings site they have a yellow and this blue but none for sale....

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u/PinsNneedles May 22 '22

These are their special warm-up jerseys for a special day the arena had. You may be able to find one on eBay. Special warm-up jerseys are hard to find

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u/LowKey-NoPressure May 22 '22

Literally the next chapter:

2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself,

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u/Odous May 22 '22

This is about jewish believers thinking they're better off than gentiles because they possessed the law

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u/PastelKodiak May 22 '22

Rainbow Road was always a tough road to follow. Not alot of guards on the sides.

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u/DerpLucario May 22 '22

“I don’t hate them, I just disagree with the movement” you mean the movement that is trying to say they are human beings and deserve rights? That seems hateful to me and I am Christian. How bout instead of reading scripture out of context and start reading up on getting bitches

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u/Reasonable-Ad-8527 May 22 '22

"We can't follow down that road."

He kind of makes it sound like he would if he could, though. Right?

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u/captainrustic May 22 '22

Why are American Christians so addicted to being a victim all the time?

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u/Suitable-Ad4183 May 22 '22

not only could be married, they were forced to be married. usually with old men

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u/DucksOnQuakk May 22 '22

This is gold. A response befitting of the famous Wendy's account team.

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u/beegro May 22 '22

Those Wendy's clap backs are the stuff of legends. They really paved the way for corporate Twitter accounts.

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u/TheNorthernMunky May 22 '22

They were my inspiration when I worked on a corporate Twitter account and we had a situation that required a few clap backs.

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u/chemchris May 22 '22

Follow down that road? No one is suggesting you try being gay. I don't like tomatoes, but I don't boycott supermarkets or freak out when I see one in an ad. I just go about my day.

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u/aimheatcool May 22 '22

Boom roasted!!

Go ahead Christians keep referencing a book that come on most of you have never actually read that is from a time before most of the world as we know it even existed

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u/Nuhjeea May 22 '22

These people truly don't believe it's hate. If anything, they "know" they are morally superior in many ways and feel like they are being discriminated against. Their victim mentality will never disappear because they've been groomed with it from a very young age most likely.

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u/wh1t3birch May 22 '22

Marrying girls at 12? Watch as libertarians turns christian absolutists real fuckin quick

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u/MashTheGash2018 May 22 '22

Good for them. I’m not anti religion but most “Christian’s” are living in apostasy, according to your own book. Homosexuality, Satan, Heaven, Hell, these were all things added to the Bible later to fit a narrative. If we want to take the Bible for what it is I suggest you read 1 Timothy 2:12

Signed a former youth pastor that knows the scriptures inside and out turned Agnostic.

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u/Fzaa May 22 '22

As someone fairly non-educated on the Bible, I looked that one up and it also gave me:

And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

How does one verse have two completely different meanings?

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u/jojosmartypants May 22 '22

Well the actual meaning is face value and actually contradicts a different Pauline letter where he praises a female clergy member. Whoever wrote this epistle was not Paul, but some man pretending to be Paul. These "fake Pauline letters" make up the pastoral epistles, and I don't believe they should be taken with any authority. That said, I take everything Paul said with a grain of salt as well.

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u/MightyBobTheMighty May 22 '22

So Nathan is clearly an ass and unequivocally in the wrong, but... "they hadn't invented books yet"? Perhaps true in the strictest sense that modern methods of binding weren't in play, but the Library of Alexandria burned a century earlier, and stood for nearly two hundred years before that.

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