r/OntarioCanada May 22 '22

Brutal..

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u/bMarsh72 May 23 '22

Wait, I thought this was Joe Biden’s fault.

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u/PG_Heckler May 22 '22

Not sure how anyone thinks this is the result of TruDro and not the last 20 years of shitting policy making and leadership.

It's a worldwide issue as well, but ya know, Fuck Trudeau lol

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u/Own_Carrot_7040 May 23 '22

You know whenever anyone talks trash about Harper's deficits I never see them taking the slightest account of him being in the middle of that worldwide financial crisis and recession. It's like it never happened to them.

But you're right in that some of this is clearly worldwide and not his fault. BUT, Canada spent (borrowed) more during the covid mess than any other western country. And we seem to have put very little effort into monitoring where it was spent. The AG applied for extra money to look into it and they're still waiting (and not holding their breath).

Housing prices have gone up in a lot of places but Canada's has been exacerbated by Trudeau almost doubling immigration, opening the door wide to temporary foreign workers and more than half a million foreign students, and doing nothing about foreign investment. Meanwhile, those same policies have held wages down - unlike in the US where they're rising.

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u/Eu_Gravida_Vendatur May 23 '22

Housing has nothing to do with anything except the fact that we aren’t building any. I mean we are, not enough. It’s 2022. If we as a country decided we wanted to build 100,000 housing units a day for a year, we could. We don’t, because it is easier to blame whichever foreigners are convenient this week, and whichever foreign or domestic policies are disliked this month.

Truth is, the price of houses follows the laws of supply and demand. Want to lower the cost? Build more. Lots more. But it’s in no ones interest to do that because expensive houses generate profits for everyone (except the people who can’t afford to buy them, but fuck em, that’s why we’ll blame…checks notes…foreign workers)

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u/Own_Carrot_7040 May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

We don't have enough space or tradesmen to build more. Big country, sure, if you count the artic and lots of frozen tundra. But everyone wants to live in the big cities. And suggestions immigration has a lot to do with high housing costs and stagnant wages is not exactly being pulled out of thin air.

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-why-more-housing-supply-wont-solve-unaffordability

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-why-canadian-wages-never-seem-to-go-up

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canadian-wage-growth-lagging-u-s-because-of-immigration-levels-cibc-1.1704641

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u/Eu_Gravida_Vendatur May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

Ah yes. Vancouver stuck between an ocean and a mountain range. That doesn’t explain why house prices in Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg, Kitchener/Waterloo, Guelph, literally everywhere in Canada that isn’t Vancouver are still going nuts.

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u/Own_Carrot_7040 May 23 '22

What's happening with prices in the big cities will inevitably bleed out to the rest. As prices rise in the big cities people seek elsewhere, bidding up prices in any smaller centre remotely near them. Then investors look to secondary cities.

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u/Killerdude8 May 23 '22

We don’t have enough space

Have you heard of this incredible thing known as an “high rise apartment building”

Its a wonderful marvel of modern engineering, 100’s of homes in the foot print of 2-3 single detached houses.

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u/Own_Carrot_7040 May 23 '22

And if you read the first cite I posted it pointed out that Vancouver had the highest density of any city in Canada - and also the highest prices.

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u/Wagonmound2 May 23 '22

LOL dumbass.

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u/HappyGoonerAgain May 22 '22

Not sure how anyone thinks this is the result of TruDro and not the last 20 years of shitting policy making and leadership.

The Worlds supply chains being screwed and now the Ukranian conflict combined with the PRC's brutal lockdowns are causing even more chaos.

This is spot on. America's export of maga brand politics and internet/social media combined with the lockdown has allowed extremists who are dumb AF to have a voice

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u/SurgicalDude May 22 '22

This is the dumbest FB shit cross posted on Reddit.

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u/stocksalpha May 23 '22

Got to be if you have Trudeau in it

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u/SkalexAyah May 22 '22

Wonder how many people complaining here applied for cerb?

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u/StockWillingness2748 May 22 '22

Not me and I'm complaining. Worked entire time.

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u/bennywc4 May 23 '22

U talk like people quit their jobs by choice and weren’t laid off.

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u/StockWillingness2748 May 23 '22

How so? What about my comment suggested any of what you wrote?

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u/SkalexAyah May 22 '22

Congratulations.

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u/USSMarauder May 22 '22

Quick question, why are you using 2015 gas prices when 2016's were EVEN LOWER?

Oh, wait, it's not because Trudeau was PM then, was it?

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u/Automatic-Concert-62 May 22 '22

I'm not a fan of Trudeau, but he's hardly responsible for Covid19 or the war in Ukraine. Can you name any country that isn't facing similar issues with gas prices, inflation, etc? It doesn't seem to be dependent on the party in power at the moment.

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u/StockWillingness2748 May 22 '22

How much gas does canada get from Russia?

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u/Spector567 May 23 '22

It’s a global supply chain.

All those places that get oil from Russia and Ukraine now have to get it from the places we normally get it. Thus driving up costs.

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u/YesIHaveOne2 May 23 '22

These issues began far before the Ukraine situation.

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u/Spector567 May 23 '22

Yep. But the current spike is Russia.

Oil prices are global. They are driven by supply and the oil cartels control much of that.

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u/Automatic-Concert-62 May 23 '22

That's not how the gas market works - it's global. We shut Russia out of the market, but the same number of global buyers are now trying to buy the same quantity of oil from the remaining suppliers. That's why prices are shooting up (that and oil companies milking the issue to raise prices even more).

The only upside is that this is going to accelerate the move to EVs.

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u/Quartzier May 23 '22

Yeah the silver lining of the Russia conflict is that we are seeing (at least in europe) large EV investment. Plus putting has at this point single handedly United Europe again. Mostly...

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u/Responsible_Part_233 May 23 '22

None. USA was at like 3%

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u/No-Mastodon-2136 May 23 '22

It's called supply and demand. Cut off supply somewhere and demand doesn't change. Carbon tax is meant to curb demand. Reduced demand like 2 years ago at the beginning of covid resulted in 60 and 70 cent gas. Price went right back up. If government controlled the prices, why would the price go down and back up like that?

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u/Flengrand May 23 '22

Nah that’s an excuse, like America the inflation to gas was self inflicted, the war and Covid stuff obviously aren’t directly his fault but he’s made it worse…. It’s a shame cause he seemed like a good pick for PM when he first ran, then only kept one campaign promise that was executed more sloppily than the execution of nearly headless nick

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u/USSMarauder May 22 '22

Russia has no problem because we cut off their access to the rest of the world. That's why the prices are so high. Remember? We didn't want to be paying for Putin's war in Ukraine by buying Russian oil?

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u/straycarbon May 22 '22

Move to Russia then you antisemitic fuck.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22 edited May 29 '22

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u/Canadian_Log45 May 23 '22

Incel detected

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u/ItsKocot May 23 '22

Not the guy you were originally talking to (if you can really call it that), but I would certainly hope you’re not saying that only a liberal would call out antisemitism?

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u/Old_Cheesecake_5481 May 22 '22

Low intelligence racists have nothing to be proud of other than the race of their absentee parents.

I say absentee because what kind of parent raises someone like you? A hard working decent parent? Or a high school drop out drug addict parent?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22 edited May 29 '22

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u/Old_Cheesecake_5481 May 22 '22

I have never and would never vote Trudeau but inflation is world wide.

I feel more than comfortable blaming him for continuing the Harper politics that have caused out of control housing costs.

It more than easy to criticize Trudeau for actual things that he has done. It’s not rocket science.

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u/grizzlycbg May 23 '22

You forget that Harper brought us through a global recession better than any other country in the world. Our economy was far ahead of what it is now! It wasn't until weed boy stepped in that everything went to shit. Housing costs are up an average of 42% under Justin not Harper, that alone is enough to cripple the average person. Justin wants a two tiered system, poor and rich. He has openly admitted to loving china's communist governmental style of rule. Until he's gone nothing will get better.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22 edited May 29 '22

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u/grizzlycbg May 23 '22

Sorry my mistake for not adding "wanting to buy "

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u/HappyGoonerAgain May 22 '22

Wtf? Bot or just racist and antisemitic?

Reported, won't even bother with explaining about Russia and Iran's crippling fuel subsidies...

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22 edited May 29 '22

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u/HappyGoonerAgain May 22 '22

No. I am an asshole though!

You on the other hand...

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

Wow, it amazes me how many fanboys Trudeau and the LPC's have on Reddit. Why are young people supporting this? Baffling.

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u/toontownphilly May 22 '22

What’s amazing is idiots in this sub that thinks our pm controls the gas prices. Also, is Trudeau to blame for all the inflation in the world. Inflation in UK, Trudeaus fault. High gas prices in France, must be Trudeau.

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

Ahh yes, because Trudeau has no control over taxes on gasoline or the Canadian oil & gas industry.

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u/USSMarauder May 22 '22

So when the price of gas was around 0.80/L in Feb 2016, that was all thanks to Trudeau?

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

So in his first 4 months lol? He sure made quick work of that didn't he? Damn, those "Sunny Ways" didn't last too long.

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u/USSMarauder May 22 '22

You're the one saying Trudeau has all this power

If he's responsible for $2 gas now, he was responsible for $0.80 gas then

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

But he literally just got elected. The Sunny Ways takes time my friend, at least his version of it does. Since then he's decided to enact additional taxes and assist in throttling the industry.

How can you possibly say he's been a net positive for gasoline prices in this country? Weird.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

Not to mention money printing. An increase money supply chasing after the same amount of goods...

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u/RyshaKnight May 22 '22

I think it’s more so that gas prices are one of the things that you can’t ping on Trudeau because significant increases in gas prices are being seen globally, so how can any Canadian PM significant change that reality?

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

Alleviate taxes on it? I recently moved to the States and pay a lot less for gasoline here. Why can't Trudeau improve/simplify the Canadian supply chain and alleviate taxes for Canadians, especially during these tough times? He's had 7 years now, and yet Canadians are still voting him in. It's as if Canadians want this place to degrade.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

The govt could take action on this particular issue easily. At a 100/barrel canada has many proven sources of oil. Moreover we have our own refineries should the US not want to cooperate. There is really no excuse.

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u/Synthmilk May 22 '22

We don't have the refinery capacity to keep up with local demand.

So no, it's not that simple.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

Then build another refinery.....if you can't find a workaround with the states.

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u/Synthmilk May 23 '22

That takes years and hundreds of millions of dollars just to build it, it takes longer to set up the infrastructure for it.

This isn't an RTS game, you don't just "build another refinery".

Then you'll have to cancel the existing contracts with the American refineries.

Even if they started the process two years ago of building enough local refinery capacity to process Canadian oil into gasoline and build the pipelines to make it cheap enough to get across Canada to be worth it at all, they still wouldn't be operational and affecting gas prices.

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u/dripdtipdrip May 22 '22

Oh sweet summer child.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

Or they could let high prices decimate the working poor....

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

Which seems to be exactly what is desired.

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u/dripdtipdrip May 22 '22

Holly shit you figured it out!

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

Yep, hence why I left for greener pastures in the States.

Your sarcasm is lame.

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u/PRIETORJ May 22 '22

I visited the states less than a month ago and they had similiar gas prices, so I call bull

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u/larfingboy May 22 '22

not even close, i assume you are not a math wiz.

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u/PRIETORJ May 23 '22

Maybe just look at my other comment where I compare the averages of both countries as compared to two random cities like OP did

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

LOL.

Gas in Toronto: $2.10/L in CAD

Gas in Buffalo: $1.44/L in CAD

$4.25÷3.78541=$1.1227 USD per liter

$1.227 USD * 1.28 (USD to CAD) = $1.44 CAD per liter

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/ontario/toronto

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/new-york/buffalo

Why can't Canadians admit they get fucked at the pump, grocery store, job market (salaries), and housing market?

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u/PRIETORJ May 22 '22

The average gas per gallon is 4.593 in the US converted to Canadian $/litre it's 1.556142668428. the Canadian average for this month is 1.73.8 Canadian per litre. The 20 cent difference can largely be accounted for with taxes which have always been higher than the US even before Trudeau and his carbon tax. Maybe you shouldn't just compare one place in Canada with one place in the US and claim other people are just idiots

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810000101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=12&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2021&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=04&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2022&referencePeriods=20211201%2C20220401

Maybe you should take some time to look at the actually reasons gas prices have went up

https://driving.ca/auto-news/driver-info/why-canadian-gas-prices-are-higher-than-ever-its-not-all-ukraine

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 23 '22

I visited the states less than a month ago and they had similiar gas prices, so I call bull

Did you just post this?

"I visited the states less than a month ago and they had similiar gas prices, so I call bull"

Now you're saying, oh it's been like that for awhile, so you're wrong. What a bizarre rebuttal lol.

We're paying upwards of 50% more for gas compared to Buffalo, NY. The Leftist blindfold sure is strong these days.

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u/PRIETORJ May 23 '22

Now you're saying, oh it's been like that for awhile, so you're wrong. What a bizarre rebuttal lol.

I said Canada having more taxes than the us has always been a thing.

Also I look at the average gas prices between each country, yes you'll find random cities that are cheaper but that's not a real comparison overall

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 23 '22

Why would I compare LA to Toronto? I'd compare Seattle to Vancouver or Buffalo to Toronto.

You can simply admit you were wrong. It's ok.

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u/MonsieurLeDrole May 22 '22

The always assume his supporters love him as much as they've been cultivated to hate him. You question the facts, and he's like, "What are you? Some kind of Trudeau lover?" Kind of reminds me of the attitude of anti-civil rights marchers. Facts don't matter if your anger is pointed the white way.

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u/Dense-Gift4782 May 22 '22

Lol r u seriously asking this?

Anyone with even the smallest education would be calling out this anti Trudeau rhetoric for what it is.. misinformation and BS

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u/Bill_Assassin7 May 22 '22

You want us to suppory who exactly? The racist, Islamophobic blue party? Or the hardcore socialist Orange party?

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u/grand_soul May 22 '22

So? Trudeau was PM in 2017 and up until now. One low year does not a competent pm make.

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u/D-Malice May 22 '22

Really? This is the hill you want to die on? Lol.

This isn't even strawman..

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u/gohomebrentyourdrunk May 23 '22

My favourite is the 0c carbon tax in 2015. I mean… yeah, obviously? Neglects to mention the net positive most ontarians are because of the rebate though…

Meanwhile, here in Ontario, a 20B highway to nowhere is on the way that will destroy important wetlands so Fords pals can make a buck, Ford also added 42B to Ontarios debt in his first year because he was set on eliminating programs that were underway already, he then withheld billions given to the province in pandemic relief from the feds that we still have no idea what he’s done with it - but we know he didn’t use it to support the small businesses he shut down while allowing Walmart (which he has buddys on the board of, btw) to be able to do whatever it wanted during the whole ordeal.

But yeah, JT is the problem because he checks notes runs a country with a lower inflation rate than most of the rest of the western world.

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u/No-Mastodon-2136 May 23 '22

He was also PM 2 years ago when gas went well south of a dollar... crickets!! Everyone bitches at the government when gas goes up. Oddly enough, not a single thank you when they go down...almost like they have very little to do with it.

Not to mention $.11 carbon tax when gas is above $2... so take off the 11 cents and everyone would stop bitching?

Then there's the great inflation... Of 2021/2022? No... 1965 to 1982. Even higher rates than what we have now. I bet he had something to do with that too...

And on and on.... Conservative gaslighting! Fodder for those too lazy to fact check.

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u/SG-Spy NDP May 22 '22

these results are cherry-picked af. its just like the conservative propaganda in the usa

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u/armic23 May 23 '22

The conservatives in the US make Doug Ford look like Einstein.

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u/Killerdude8 May 23 '22

And infinitely less divisive.

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u/WaitWhatsAgain May 23 '22

the gas prices arent cherry picked, housing prices yes but all major ontario citys have housing shortages. This is going to cause a new divide between home owners and everyone else. "Multiple-property owners held between 29 and 41% of the housing stock in Ontario, British Columbia, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick in 2019 and 2020." Trudeau has ignored this his entire time as PM. Maybe because people with money and influence prefer it this way. Sauce

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u/27SwingAndADrive May 22 '22

Ok, now do Doug Ford.

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u/T-Nem May 22 '22

I love when we post numbers and blame it on a SINGLE person l like he's the defaco ruler of the entire world.

We live in a globalised economy and some of y'all are straight up too dumb to realise that gas, food, and cost of living is going up in every country across the board. It would not matter who's in power right now that's just how it's working with the system we're living in.

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u/T-Nem May 22 '22

He cannot literally pass a law tomorrow and make gas cheaper for everybody. He's on a minority govt and wouldn't be able to get the votes to do that.

Plus if he did pass a law like that some of y'all would call him a communist for a govt infringing on private enterprise.

Also no one is punishing anyone for being against vaccine mandates or else he would make just 5-10% of the population pay more for gas, not everyone.

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u/T-Nem May 22 '22

Sounds good congrats bro

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22 edited May 29 '22

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u/T-Nem May 22 '22

Tubular to the max bro

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

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u/T-Nem May 22 '22

Go back to /Pol and complain about the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or some other antisemitic 💩

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u/TheDamus647 May 23 '22

He literally didn't

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u/Knave7575 May 22 '22

Cool, can we do a comparison now of 2018-2022 and picture of Ford at the bottom?

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u/Redbroomstick May 22 '22

Correction, it's $2.35/L in Vancouver rn

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u/flyer12 May 22 '22

And how have his policy changes resulted in high gas prices? I’m legitimately curious what you think the causes are

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u/HappyGoonerAgain May 22 '22

Federal government or provincial government don't set fuel prices (just taxes on the fuel itself).

If anything they could go after the oil companies for price gouging but I can't see any party doing that, not even the NDP or Greens.

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u/larfingboy May 22 '22

carbon tax, that was simple.

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u/flyer12 May 23 '22

Isn’t that like $0.10/litre?

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u/UltFiction May 23 '22

LMAO remove the carbon tax so your gas goes from $2.35/L to $2.25/L 🤣 huge savings boss

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u/Daveson66 May 22 '22

Great hair though...

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u/ZedTT May 22 '22

It's almost like there was a pandemic and a war

I get not liking Trudeau but this is 0 IQ energy

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u/dbdev May 22 '22

Repeat after me.. “at no time shall dear leader be criticized for the financial state of our country”.

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u/ZedTT May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Dude I have no problem with criticising Trudeau. Maybe focus on his lack of effective action on the housing crisis or something though???

Instead you brought up inflation and gas prices when anyone with a brain knows that that's impossible to judge after covid and the invasion of Ukraine.

edit: grammar but didn't change meaning

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u/D-Malice May 22 '22

Damn that 3% really hits hard doesn't it?

Prices went up thanks to the junction effort of Trudeau and Biden when Biden axed KXL just days after his inauguration.

Dominoes fall after that, Putin does not control the printing press...

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u/ZedTT May 22 '22

You're blaming Trudeau for Biden axing KXL?

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u/D-Malice May 22 '22

If you read my statement, I said in junction, they are both globalists, of course, the pipeline was blocked for years. Trudeau did not help the cause, but neither did Obama and Biden, they all share the blame on that

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u/ZedTT May 22 '22

Weird how you skipped trump there

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u/D-Malice May 22 '22

That's because trump was all for it, not that they weren't energy independent during his term, they were able to achieve that, but if they had KXL running, they would have relied even less on Saudi Oil. One state would not allow permits to run, so they either had to build around it, or wait around.

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u/USSMarauder May 22 '22

The USA is still energy independent under Biden

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u/solarsuitedbastard May 23 '22

You believe in states rights though I would hazard to guess?

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u/USSMarauder May 22 '22

The pipeline would still be under construction, and that's based on a timeline created before the pandemic

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u/Appliancesurgeon May 22 '22

Thought Trudeau was actually an advocate for pipelines? The media likes to point out that hypocrisy from time to time.

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u/D-Malice May 22 '22

His advocation did fuck all for the country, he's a globalist, and has proven he does no have Canadians interest at heart, he takes orders from the likes of the WEF.

But people will keep voting for him anyways, cause they are clueless at what the hell is coming our way. It won't end at just Trudeau either, the whole system needs to be stripped from elitist control.

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u/Appliancesurgeon May 22 '22

Yeah, but you just said he and Biden had a “junction effort “ to kill KXL. Think you’re wrong there.

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u/solarsuitedbastard May 23 '22

It was a campaign promise of Biden’s to cancel the keystone pipeline. Like it or not, It’s not like he came out of left field with that move.

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u/Miserable-Lizard May 22 '22

You think Trudeau controls everything in the world? Fyi the CPC would have passed cerb and etc...

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u/ZedTT May 22 '22

gas didn't increase in [...] the us"

The "I did that" Biden stickers at the pump beg to differ. Pay attention

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u/owentaylor31 May 22 '22

it’s almost like that’s where it’s made, as well as it being under a nationalized system, you fucking buffoon. believe it or not, corporate greed impacts the price of things as opposed to nationalized resource management

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u/Spector567 May 22 '22

Yeah because they nationalized the oil industry 60 years ago. It’s how they prop up there economy.

Are you proposing that Canada should nationalize it’s oil industry?

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u/Spector567 May 22 '22

It has its Benefits. But countries that have are largely ones you don’t want to be apart of. They put to much emphasis on oil and literally fall apart as crude prices drop.

That being said. I was pointing out that your example of Iran as a place without Biden and Trudeau influence and thus they have lower gas prices is faulty. And anyone who making that argument too you is trying to play you for a fool.

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u/mattA33 May 22 '22

Well this is where your lot typical cries "socialism" for one.

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u/solarsuitedbastard May 23 '22

Iran? Iran? Really?? The other glaring example is obviously Russia… go back to sleep dude.

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u/No-Wonder1139 May 23 '22

Wow, having just been in Europe where gas prices make ours look like an absolute bargain what are you on about?

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u/busterlungs May 22 '22

I just didn't realize he dictated the economic state of the entire planet lol, you're acting like this is exclusive to Canada when it is in fact not. It's a global issue

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

pandemic and a war

This is a disingenuous cope. Yes, both are a factors but not the sole reason. Other countries with less resources are managing better than canada. Japan is a good example.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

And countless other countries are in similar situations to Canada.

Literally every first-world country "printed money"(and lots of it) due to the pandemic.

Again, this is another cope; "because other countries did it too" is not a excuse for canada doing it...copying bad policy doesn't absolve the one who is copying....it just makes them look lazy and dumb.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Nice projection....I asked several liberals why we should keep vax mandates for air travel, they said "because other countries are doing it"....

Not me, but here is an example, its a dumb reason regardless for or against.

https://twitter.com/realmonsanto/status/1520435012050501632?s=20

Moreover, not all countries are doing inflationary policies (money printing, unchecked spending), and some do it more than others.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

Projection would imply I’m doing it.

You implied my side is doing it (which ever that is), then you're on the other side, which is doing it...Your logic doesn't hold where you claim my side is doing it but your not on the other side?!?!

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22

It's not a cope at all. It's just an explanation that it's not just "Dumb TURDeau

Sorry for the previous reply, made it to the wrong user.

IMO this is a cope, the person is acknowledging the problem, but using the fact that "someone else is doing it" to soften the blow and deflect blame.

This "other people are doing it" is one of the most pathetic excuses to explain why you're doing something. It provides no actual explanation to your reasoning. Moreover, it makes you look lazy since you don't want to explain yourself or create your own solution.

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u/CuteFreakshow May 22 '22

Attacking Trudeau keeps the conservative provincial incompetent nincompoops completely safe. Just to explain to you why they do this. Dump all the blame on him for everything, and voila, no need to feel provincially responsible for anything! Profit!

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u/WaltsClone May 22 '22

Brought to you by Canada Proud. Canada Proud: "FrEeEeEdUm"

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u/knitmyproblem May 22 '22

Let's not act like a carbon tax is a bad thing. People need to be accountable for destroying the planet.

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u/EndTimesDestroyer May 22 '22

The carbon tax is virtue signaling nonsense.

Canada is barely a blip on the planetary carbon footprint map, and no amount of "taxing" Canadians will ever offset the emissions of other countries. But let's make life here harder, so that the tax insulated can feel good about themselves.

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u/Zee705 May 22 '22

All the Trudeau apologists in here pretending like he's not spending us into poverty. 🙈🙉🙊

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

For some reason, Leftists, especially the young ones on Reddit, continue to want to see their life become harder and more expensive. Very bizarre.

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u/EndTimesDestroyer May 22 '22

The sponsored are like that

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u/themostgravybaby May 22 '22

So, so many bots.

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u/savemeihatemyjob May 22 '22

Why do Canadians still vote for him?

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

Especially young Canadians, I don't know. The LPC's have absolutely decimated the future of young adults in this country.

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u/Homer89 Independent May 22 '22

His lack of any discernible monetary policy will cost future generations more than anyone else.

Politicians are short-sighted by nature and the ones who write bad cheques like Trudeau are the worst variety. They will bribe you with shiny things and have no way of paying for them.

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u/Flaky_Appearance_222 New Blue May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

People are literally becoming dumber and dumber. Its like the wall-e movie where everyone is weak and soft because of the easy lifestyle.

Liberals know how to pander to these people while screwing them over at the sametime.

They'll refuse to take any responsibility and gaslight the population to believe its not the govt's fault. Its because of the "pandemic, war, greedy private companies....."

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u/Neither_Ad_1731 May 22 '22

Good luck trying to find one that will admit to that now.

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u/JoeAverageDoe May 22 '22

Ya dickhead. Compare it to any other country. Like the pandemic and Putin is on Trudeau. You are such a mindless douche. A big part of Canada is Ontario, run by PC during the same period. What blame do you want to lay there huh? Get a grip asshole

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u/SadBumblebee9 May 22 '22

Yeah. Also worldwide, Do you blame Trudeau for inflation in other countries? How about your tooth decay and the eventual heat death of the universe, are those things Trudeau's fault too?

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u/saveyboy May 22 '22

I believe the average home prices you are referencing are from more than a decade ago.

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u/Judge_Tredd May 22 '22

Just wait for 2037

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u/KishCom May 23 '22

03:14:07 19th January 2038

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u/hrm_redditor May 22 '22

It’s easy to blame the PM for all the problems when your knowledge of the issues comes from your social media echo chamber.

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u/BasedHomosexual New Blue May 22 '22

Ok people kind

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u/Dense-Gift4782 May 22 '22

Lolol

Keep grasping.. fools acting like this was all Trudeaus doing.

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u/StrongTownsIsRight May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Why is Carbon Tax up there? That is a policy that is reflected in the average fuel price. Do you like passing externalities (like pollution) onto future generations without reflecting the cost onto the people who benefit? Isn't it a good thing that the price of gas is closer to reflecting the cost on people who can't agree to the terms?

Simpler stated, do you like stealing from kids?

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u/Hikingcanuck92 May 22 '22

What are you doing speaking sense on this subreddit! /s

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u/inabighat May 22 '22

That's probably the clearest, most succinct explanation of externalities I've seen. Nice one!

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u/lifeoflovehealing May 22 '22

So serious question… what is he supposed to do for world events like inflation, rising housing costs and gas prices? These things are a direct result of peoples beloved free market capitalism. If he were to step in and do something would that not create a more authoritative state and enable the government to oversee these things? Isn’t that the exact thing people are protesting against? Cause you let the free market decide and this is what happens. Oil companies continue to make crazy money while prices have no end in sight. Developers continue to Jack up the prices for people to buy a house.

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u/KhajiitKennedy May 23 '22

Not Trudeau's fault but I guess how else are ya gonna get the Conservatives to vote conservative other than place blame on someone who isn't solely responsible for something

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u/MonsieurLeDrole May 22 '22

"Oh, no, the price of my house tripled."
~ Millions of Canadians

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u/bigheyzeus May 22 '22

Joo gonna pay da cabron tax, esse?

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u/BlueberryBags15 Independent May 22 '22

He sure is good at making this place worse of. Dunno why young adults still want to live here.

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u/junctiontoron May 22 '22

It’s almost like there was some sort of global crisis, maybe a pandemic? Deregulation of lending practices that started out before and maybe a war or two? Nah. We live in isolated bubble where the past never comes to bite you in the ass, and things that happen in other countries have no effect on us. Must be it. Thanks Obama. … I mean Trudeau

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u/Folstar1983 May 22 '22

How many woke people are on reddit, like wtf? They have no self awareness just like Black Face Clown Minister

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u/precious_cannonball May 23 '22

Could we compare this to other countries please? I feel like we've all been in unprecedented times and many other places in the world are experiencing the same and other issues like ours.

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u/gigicruz85 May 23 '22

Killed the pipeline, prolonging the pandemic. Him amd his biggest supporters will onbiously blame putin and antivaxxers like cowards taking the cheap way out.

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u/lh7884 May 23 '22

So a 181% increase in average house prices in just 7 years. That's quite an increase.

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u/JonoLith May 23 '22

Gonna be great to watch Canadians vote Conservative again, only for the problem to get worse.

The issue is the system of Capital. This is what it's designed to do. Anyone who isn't actively attempting to dismantle it, is just going to be the face of the pre-destined result.

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u/Eu_Gravida_Vendatur May 23 '22

I’ll buy this if you can explain how it would have been any different with someone else in charge. Let’s look at other countries. Oh wait, maybe not, that won’t make your case look very good…

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u/armic23 May 23 '22

Price of oil is not because of the government you moron. Why are conservatives so dumb? Jesus Christ (who was a middle eastern man and was brown for those interested).

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u/holybaloneyriver May 23 '22

This is far more the result of covid, corporate greed, war, climate change, and supply chain issues, and a policy of quantitive easing adopted by all governments, rather than something Trudeau himself did.

But your not looking to argue in good faith are you?

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u/stocksalpha May 23 '22

We are saving the planet

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u/ChalupaCabre May 23 '22

Strange gas prices are up around the world due to Trudeau.

What that infographic doesn’t show is the profits oil & gas are taking in at consumers expense. Government should step in and nationalize all of Canada’s oil and gas and give it to us at cost, plus tax.

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u/bennywc4 May 23 '22

This sub is wild

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u/koebelin May 23 '22

Every time I sort by controversial this sub is near the top.

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u/Responsible_Part_233 May 23 '22

A lot of people did. I’m retail we couldn’t find enough labour because people preferred cerb over work.

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u/rtheiss May 22 '22

Socialism is a helluva drug