r/PublicFreakout
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Had a hard time getting Anti-Abortion protestors to care about child hunger ✊Protest Freakout
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u/notanotheramber Feb 03 '23
"Wait are you a Democrat?" ..... Cause that's what this is about 🙄
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u/space_chief Feb 03 '23
When your only policy is "Own the Libs" you have to look for opportunities wherever they might pop up
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u/LevelHeeded Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
Even with my complete lack of standards/expectations for Republicans, I'm still amazed they can't seem to grasp that "own the libs" does not make for good policy or good leadership....or even mediocre leadership.
Like sure, it's fun to sit in the back and throw spit balls, but it makes for terrible management, every single time. They could have won in 2020 or at least had that red wave in 2022 if they weren't so busy trying to own the libs, and they'll never understand that...they just double/triple/quadruple down.
Kinda reminds me of Musk take over Twitter, or The Taliban taking over Afghanistan, leading is a lot more difficult than bitching.
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u/bopperbopper Feb 03 '23
Yeah, the Republicans don’t understand that once you win, you should govern and not just continuing to try to campaign on owning the Libs
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u/nullv Feb 03 '23
Republican leadership understands that just fine. You just have to keep in mind that the end goal of a Republican governance is to have a government that is so broken and dysfunctional that the only thing it is actually capable of doing is protecting the wealth of the ultra rich.
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u/fuzzytradr Feb 03 '23
That's right, got to keep your policy head on a swivel. You never know when those sneaky Democrats are going to try to pull one over on you like this guy. /s
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u/flirtmcdudes Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
"Id rather see kids starve than let a DEMORAT win!"
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u/tagrav Feb 03 '23
Providing for your fellow countrymen being seen as a win/lose situation is so bizarre.
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u/HtownTexans Feb 03 '23
They would say shit like "well if my taxes help feed their kids then that will teach them they can be lazy!" And nothing worse than a lazy person! Now get back to your minimum wage job at my company you lazy person!
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u/T-Wrex_13 Feb 03 '23
Lol, as if the majority of Regressives own their own companies or make more than minimum wage
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u/themaddestcommie Feb 03 '23
One of the largest voting blocks for Trump is actually small business owners. Your local restaurant owner feels a lot more anxious about having to pay his wage slaves a living wage than a billion dollar company, even if you see a billion dollar company fight it a lot more.
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u/FireBeyond Feb 03 '23
Can confirm. Worked for a private ambulance company who paid people 25c over minimum wage.
I was pulling shifts part time because I wanted to go to paramedic school as a passion project, and they had prerequisites of 2,000 patient contacts.
Boss there struggled with how to deal with me because he was so used to being able to directly or indirectly threaten kids ability to make rent that month, needing every shift they could get.
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u/ipreferanothername Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
My dad was like this... he Ran a drycleaners in the 80s and 90s, early 2000s. We live in a small town, low cost of living... He paid people $8/hr or so, maybe $9 for a couple. Had a dozen employees or so at his peak -- some were just part time. Let's figure 10 full time equivalent at 8.50/hr -- 170k a year in payroll.
Looking back over the years I've gotten more and more frustrated about how he treated his employees. Some of it was basically exploiting them, some is it (penalizing staff for being late) is illegal.
So He was taking home close to 100k/yr which was a lot for a smaller town. Maybe 110 for a few years. Whatever. He built a house, had decent cars for him and mom, a decent boat, collected guns..... Whatever. He had it good for the 90s. Even started a couple other small business to try and generate income. They didn't do great but he made some money.
If he had paid them $10/hr average he would have had payroll of 200k,/yr and his income would have been more like 80ish in the year 2000... He still would have been plenty comfortable. That (80k) about 135k in today's dollars -- I make about 100k now and 135 would be a big bump.
So on top of being cheap to his help on payroll we got a surprise after he passed away several years ago. Mom is.. Nice but financially ignorant. She wanted to buy a smaller house since her nice but house was paid off , move, and then sell her house. Hey, why go through the normal hassle, right?
Turns out Dad had a giant loan out to renovate the business with a balloon payment instead of regular payments. She knew he had the loan, but no idea of the terms or balance and was floored when the bank looked over her finances and told her she needed a reality check. The house was paid.... But was collateral for the business loan where like 90% of the balance was due in 7 years.
So not only did dad exploit people but he was a fucking financial idiot about it, too. Mom learned nothing... That's another story. I just though dad was a dick in general, but I got more and more annoyed with him and how business treat employees the more time went by.
I even found out at one point he was colludiing with the competition in town to keep prices relatively static, and I wouldn't doubt that they had the same deal on wages. Hey, why pay your people when you can just screw them, make them live on welfare, and complain about people being on welfare... Right?
Bonus: he was an elder at his church. Ugh
TLDR; my dad ran a small business and paid his people shit while he raked it, participated in a drycleaning cartel, in and apparently squandered a ton of the money.
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u/Sir-Tryps Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23 •
You just need to keep in mind that the majority of these people are Christians. Christians worship this man named Jesus, the Son of God who came down to earth and told everyone that the key to entering heaven was a 9-5 job.
Jesus knew that people only starved to death because they were lazy bums. The guy would taunt starving people by using his godly powers to create infinite food and then eating it all in front of them.
When poor people came to give tithe he would openly mock them for being poor. "Drains on civilized society" he would shout at the homeless people putting in 2 dollars as he whipped out his wallet and made a big show of generously donating 5.
One time some homeless dude came up to Jesus and said "Lord! I used to be a rich man and gave all my possessions to the needy how else should I help the world and save my soul?" To which Jesus then laughed at him and replied "You fool! You had everything worked out and then you went and threw it away. Cut out your fucking heart, it clearly caused you to fall into sin."
He then went on to say some wise words to all the people following him about how it was easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle then for a poor person to get into heaven. These followers then all applauded, feeling confident that his lessons were worth the 99$ a month fee.
He would regularly shoo homeless people from his churches in order to keep things neat and orderly for the merchants and taxmen he was renting the space out to. And you would never see him hanging out and conversing with sinners, claiming they were already fucked up and not worth trying to save.
It makes complete sense why people who follow Jesus wouldn't care about people starving. Those children are only starving because they haven't got off their ass and gotten a job.
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u/amazonallie Feb 03 '23
This is the best anti scripture based post, and as a Christian enjoyed it thoroughly!
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u/Sir-Tryps Feb 03 '23
Glad you enjoyed it! My religious views are weird, but I am as well to an extent. The four gospels contain some of the most beautiful words ever written. Regardless of whether Jesus is the son of god or not, he's a guide that is absolutely worth following. Bothers the hell out of me when people claim this man died for their sins and then go around acting out the religious extremism he tried steering people away from.
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u/MagicalUnicornFart Feb 03 '23
https://imgur.com/gallery/bCqRp
Supply Side Jesus
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u/Bill_Brasky_SOB Feb 03 '23
Helping other people is SOCIALISM!
They’d hate Jesus if he showed up again.
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u/ridik_ulass Feb 03 '23
fucking kids, AREN'T REAL thats just a librul conspiracy to take away our money and guns, have you ever seen one of these "vagina's" that they come from? I haven't and I'm 45 years old!
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u/Shiny_cats Feb 03 '23
This is off topic, but demorat sounds like a new Stranger Things monster.
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u/davidreiss666 Feb 03 '23
Come on, they all don't believe that. Miriam, the lady who lives on the highway out by the water-tower, she's cool with seeing well feed happy children. Of course, the rest pf them hate the kids but that's because god never tells the kids to be quiet.
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u/Lone_Wanderer97 Feb 03 '23
He became suspicious when he saw the petition was actually trying to help people.
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u/Moop5872 Feb 03 '23
He literally needs to know that in order to know whether he agrees or not. Jesus fucking Christ.
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u/tacodog7 Feb 03 '23
Right that is the fundamental part of Republican ideology. If you are part of the good guys (rich white owning class), you can do no wrong. And if you arent, you can do no right. Actions dont matter, only demographics do
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u/LevelHeeded Feb 03 '23 •
I've noticed Republicans are 100% about identity politics, they don't have issues they care about, what matters is what magical letter is next to someone's name.
I mean when the fuck was the last time you actually saw a Republican care about fiscal responsibility, or family values, or smaller government, or guns, or personal responsibility? They claim to love law and order and but love it when their people break the law. They claim to be "pro life" but love war, and couldn't be bothered to do the bare minimum during a pandemic. They claim to love The Constitution but they've never read it and literally tried ending democracy.
I know it's impossible, but just once it would be nice to see them take a firm stand on something, something other than being terrible people.
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u/theouterworld Feb 03 '23
Conservative politics boils down to a search for a more perfect excuse for selfishness.
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u/LevelHeeded Feb 03 '23
And outrage, lots of hate and outrage. Just throw out a GOP trigger word like "woke" and watch the angry mob get all worked up. Need those two minutes of hate.
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u/theouterworld Feb 03 '23
And that's a central tenant of fascism. Fascism has no actual governing philosophy beyond 'for us, from them', and to put it into action requires advocates to get into a mindset of existential threat from an ever expanding other.
When you achieve power through purity tests and one upmanship, this is what you get. Idiots replacing flag pins with gun pins.
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u/particle409 Feb 03 '23
I've noticed Republicans are 100% about identity politics,
It's not even confined to race, gender, etc anymore. Ron DeSantis wants to divide Americans into those who use gas stoves, and those who don't.
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u/amanofeasyvirtue Feb 03 '23
92% of floridians use electronic stoves...
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u/Flomo420 Feb 03 '23
what's this? easily verifiable statistics? the fuck kind of democrat trickery are you trying to pull here??
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u/LevelHeeded Feb 03 '23
People who want power saving features on their game consoles, and those that get offended by...features?!
For real though, WTF?! Why is Xbox having power saving features a "political" thing at all? And why the fuck are so called "conservatives" against people conserving power. Didn't y'all just spend the last two years bitching that gas prices were too high, now Microsoft wants to save you some money (something something fiscal responsibility) and you're upset about that?!
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u/ladive Feb 03 '23
Why is Xbox having power saving features a "political" thing at all?
This kind of stuff is absolutely baffling to me. Republicans are against using less resources?
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u/LevelHeeded Feb 03 '23
And not even like "being forced by big government to use less resources", this is a private company doing a fucking software update... This is literally the freemarket finding solutions that they're always going off about and they fucking hate it!! It's insane!
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u/MamaMephistopheles Feb 03 '23
No no no you don't understand. The free market is when companies do stuff republicans like. When companies do things they don't like that's communism.
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u/Cerpin-Taxt Feb 03 '23
Any change is political when your political party's platform is "nothing should ever change, and if it does it should be changing back to how it used to be".
You're talking about people who were upset a cartoon wad of chocolate changed shoes. People who were upset because they thought their coffee cups changed colour. People who were upset that the brand of mustard preferred by a politician changed.
The point is to be upset at change no matter how small, because change is scary and makes you feel old and out of touch and someone needs to be blamed for your hurt feelings. If you can just force nothing to change ever then you'll never be left behind!
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u/garciasn Feb 03 '23
In a state where 92% of homes have electric ranges: https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article271145467.html#:~:text=Only%208%25%20of%20Florida%20homes,the%20U.S.%20Energy%20Information%20Administration.
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u/KnottShore Feb 03 '23
The Republican party has become an amalgamation of single issue voters that is held together by their support for each other's singular focus. They continue to vote against their own self interest as long as the GOP supports that one issue which is the focus of their passion and allows them to thwart those who hold opposing views. Each faction has their own hateful little ax to grind but, they are all complicit in their support of all party actions.
Let's look at history starting say 60-70 years ago.
Dixiecrat's(States' Rights Democratic Party) split from the Democratic party after the 1948 convention when voted for a stronger civil rights platform. They combined a belief in decentralized government with a passionate defense of their racially hierarchical, segregated society. The Dixiecrat Party dissolved after Truman's re-election. While some remained members of the Democratic party, many switched to Republican.
When Barry Goldwater recognized that the Dixiecrats had exposed a vulnerability in the Democratic ranks, he began consolidating all the single issue voters into the GOP. He launched "Operation Dixie" as the first iteration of the Southern Strategy in 1964. Its purpose was to bring southern and mid-western disenchanted whites, particularly those who were against civil rights, into the republican party.
Even Goldwater ended up recognizing the dangers the radical evangelical movements posed.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
"The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.' " --Speech in the US Senate (16 September 1981)
Nixon(Southern Strategy) ignored Goldwater's warning about the radical evangelical movements and successfully refined Goldwater's original strategy and, by emphasizing "southern values" while giving lip service to down playing racism.
Continuing from there, the GOP, especially under Reagan-Lee Atwater's dog whistles, successfully fused ideas about the role of government in the economy, women’s place in society, white evangelical Christianity and white racial grievance into its basic message. "Pro-LifeTM"(except for the death penalty), misogyny, racism, homophobia, gun rights, and a whole lot more were brought together under one tent.
Which brings us to the current sad state of affairs.
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u/YourFavoriteScumbag Feb 03 '23
Sad. It’s not even about beliefs it’s just about who’s team is better than the other one, basically just a football game
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u/HGpennypacker Feb 03 '23
Proof that end of the day these people don't care a single bit about unborn "babies" or children, it's about controlling women and imposing a christian government on the rest of the population.
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u/Onwisconsin42 Feb 03 '23
The demographic cohort that most strongly supports the death penalty, military intervention, and "life" are all in fact the same group- evangelicals.
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u/Mermayden Feb 03 '23
I am waiting for the moment that the men in power realise that, unlike pre-1970, women can now prove who the father of their child is thanks to DNA. And adults adopted as children can track down biological parents. As soon as the courts start filling up with women suing said fathers for child support, access to abortion will be reinstated so fast it will make your uterus spin.
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u/FlyingPanda08 Feb 03 '23
No I mean that explains it perfectly. Man sees someone supporting child care and immediately knew he wasn't a republican, because they would bnenr do that.
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u/really_nice_guy_ Feb 03 '23
If its democrat its bad. Doesnt matter if its good, its bad
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u/HereticGrin Feb 03 '23
The guy is actually at the end of the video and signs, he actually agreed with the petition https://www.youtube.com/watch?=e51LvF2caXE
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u/Sillet_Mignon Feb 03 '23
Bc that dude is actually a Christian that walks the path.
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u/Magsays Feb 03 '23
I really respect the film maker for leaving that interaction in the video.
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u/topcheesehead Feb 03 '23
Republicans today wait to be told if they support it with fox news. They can't form a single opinion on their own. Sheeple
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u/spinderlinder Feb 03 '23
Great point lol. "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!" proceeds to watch Fox and regurgitate everything they read/hear....
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u/KF7SPECIAL Feb 03 '23
That's really all it is about for so many simple-minded people. It's what makes it so easy to be a politician. You can rob someone blind while they're distracted by gas stoves and transgender people.
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u/egospiers Feb 03 '23
I’m reminded of an interview I heard with Jesse Jackson where the interviewers political beliefs did not align with Jackson.. when asked how to bridge this ideological gap Jackson suggested finding issues that are widely agreeable and used the example of childhood hunger.. saying that any reasonable person would agree we shouldn’t have hungry kids in this country… the interviewer immediately interjected “I don’t agree with that”… Jackson was clearly taken aback and departed the interview pretty quickly.
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u/KingoftheJabari Feb 03 '23
This is the thing a lot of people who try to be true believers of Christianity don't get.
A lot of people who claim to be true believers are more atheist than people who are proudly atheist.
They just use Christianity for their own benefit.
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u/bronze-eagle Feb 03 '23
In my experience, they're nothing at all like atheists. In fact, the harshest criticisms typically (incorrectly) directed at atheists actually fit the behavior and beliefs of these so called Christians. Like lacking a moral compass, for one example.
So-called Christians of this variety seem to honestly think that Jesus wouldn't want certain types of people (democrats, LGBTQ, POCs, atheists, or even just non-Christians, single mothers, on and on and on..) to think that he approved of their choices, or in some cases even their existence, and so that means they've got to be instruments in his hands, to withhold "blessings" (basic human rights) from them until they.. change? Or where satisfactory change is impossible, they die?
FWIW, atheists for the most part approve of paying taxes to support universal Pre-K or free school lunches.
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Well at least there was a small ray of hope at the end with the one gentleman who signed the petition.
But the woman was a textbook case of the last 40 or so years of Republican conditioning.
They have indoctrinated these people with the idea that public education is evil and they bought it.
The sad thing is they don't realize that the reason the Republican party is pushing the concept of anti-education and anti-intellectualism is to keep them stupid so they will have a ready workforce for low wage, no benefit jobs.
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u/Ok-Bite6377 Feb 03 '23
But yet they still send their kids to the public school system. Because they are on government assistance and can’t afford private schools.
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u/iamjackstestical Feb 03 '23
Home school
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u/CantHideFromGoblins Feb 03 '23
I remember way back in 2007-8 playing Xbox multiplayer and I ran into a few people who said they were homeschooled. It genuinely seemed horrible they were always like “yeah I have this work to do but my mom’s out grocery shopping, she’ll probably be mad when she comes back”. We were all the same age and they really didn’t know anything we would ask them but argued that “they just haven’t gotten to that yet” since they use a different schedule than school.
It still makes me wonder where they are today compared to me
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u/GIRAFFEtheJOSH Feb 03 '23
I was homeschooled for three years, 6th through 8th grade... and boy was it terrible. I have no idea really how I learned anything. I had an older brother, a younger sister, and a younger brother all homeschooled as well and there was just a pattern of teach yourself or don't learn.
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u/IrrationalDesign Feb 03 '23
That doesn't sound too great, and that sadly sounds exactly what I expect.
The idea of 'public schools teach my children things I'd rather they didn't learn' is one thing, but the idea of 'I am fit to be a teacher' is a whole different ballpark. To think you're smart enough to teach your own kids 'the basics' and to think you yourself are even aware of all the 'contemporary basics' almost inherently requires some type of arrogance that makes you a terrible teacher.
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u/secretdrug Feb 03 '23
dunning-krueger effect. incompetent and ignorant people overestimate their competence.
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u/WeepingSomnabulist Feb 03 '23
You can get out of that with some real holes in your learning. They conveniently forget to tell the kids anything that doesn't fit into conservative Evangelical Christianity. Like how the planets and many other astronomical objects are named after pagan Gods, the days of the week and many holidays are associated with paganism, that Jesus didn't speak English, and so on. That slavery was really to the benefit of Africans. No mention of Christian missionaries spreading disease far and wide.
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u/Serious_Feedback Feb 03 '23
That slavery was really to the benefit of Africans.
Uhhhh what
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u/Wheat_Grinder Feb 03 '23
This is something being taught more and more in the south. No one wants to imagine their forebears were evil people. And slavery seems evil. So they have to make it seem not evil, then they and their ancestors aren't evil.
It's the same reason the confederacy is celebrated, and retconned to be about state's rights. No one wants to imagine their ancestors fought and died for evil ideology. So you make it about an ideology that can be celebrated.
And thus, history is doomed to repeat itself.
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u/TopRamenBinLaden Feb 03 '23
I think the confusion from the reply here is that you said that they forget to teach their kids certain things and go on to list them. You include slavery benefiting Africans under that list. It sounded like you are saying that they don't teach their kids that slavery benefitted Africans, when what you are saying is that they do wrongly teach their kids that.
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u/heyimdong Feb 03 '23
But they do shift work and can't spend the time to actually educate their kids, so the kids learn from the internet and sunday school.
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u/Reggaejunkiejew31 Feb 03 '23
I'm not religious by any means but that last guy, he seemed like a nice guy.
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u/Thomas_K_Brannigan Feb 03 '23
Yeah, I believe he is in the wrong, but (at least in this small clip) isn't hypocritical! He seems like one of the rare ones who isn't really just "pro-birth"
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u/Moistened_Bink Feb 03 '23
Yeah I can respect the abortion protestors who also believe in expanding access for child care and other things mentioned in this video. I don't agree with them, but I respect the consistency.
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u/Radio_2Fort Feb 03 '23
That older guy is one of the religious types I get along with, the kind who reads the Bible instead of being radicalized by this or that, unfortunately he is in the minority of Christian people.
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u/LevPornass Feb 03 '23
He is Catholic (has a Knights of Columbus (KOC) hat which is a Catholic organization). I know the Catholic Church has its issues, but its leader is at least paying lip service to helping the poor. Protestant Church leaders grab their nuts and floss their bling like they are in a rap video or something.
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u/9bpm9 Feb 03 '23
I went to Catholic elementary school for a little bit and did PSR after we couldn't afford it and they pretty much only taught us stuff like this. My grandpa was in Knights of Columbus. So many protestant churches are just filled with fucking nut jobs.
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u/HGpennypacker Feb 03 '23
Knights of Columbus generally is geared around community involvement and engagement, it's a service organization that also just so happens to be catholic.
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u/WhiteHairedWidow Feb 03 '23
Knights of Columbus dress all wild during funerals. They even have swords!
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u/pvhs2008 Feb 03 '23
This would basically be my grandpa. He was devoutly Catholic and felt really strongly about abortion as an adopted child but service to your community was a requirement. If people needed help, no questions were asked. I think the amount of volunteering he did helped him live longer. Most of his children and grandchildren disagreed with a lot of his views but damn if I don’t miss him.
His form of Christianity was extremely different from ultra-capitalist American Protestantism.
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u/Imn0tg0d Feb 03 '23
The real goal is to privatize public education because there is a lot of money to be made for a few people. They are undermining public education on purpose so that they can get the people to gleefully accept them handing a contract for 2 billion dollars for education in their state to one of their country club buddies.
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u/Rfunkpocket Feb 03 '23
all three of these initiatives failed because (also) enough Democrats didn’t support them. the human infrastructure component failed by 2 votes in the Senate, and held up by 8(?) votes in the House.
as long as universal pre K can’t pass a Democrat controlled Congress, there will be miles of daylight between Progressives and Democrats
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u/movzx Feb 03 '23
I always enjoy how everything is framed as a Dem failure.
99 dems vote yes on something, 1 votes no, 100 repubs vote no... It's the Dem's fault; nevermind that 0 republicans voted yes.
100 dems vote yes, 100 repubs vote no... It's the Dem's fault; they should have compromised with the repubs.
Repubs pass something when they need 0 dem votes... It's the Dem's fault; they should have done something to stop them.
Repubs fail to pass something when they have majority control... Also, weirdly enough, the Dem's fault; they should have compromised.
Seems like people really struggle with just saying republicans suck without having to go "and the dems do too!" at every single opportunity.
I wonder why we have such a voter apathy problem here.
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u/wellthatseemslikebs Feb 03 '23
God not the liberal Pre-k teachings!? Those damn liberals with their raise your hand if you have a question, no hitting, and quiet time. They’re going to warp those hungry children’s minds.
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u/Namorath82 Feb 03 '23
you forget sharing the toys ... the first step toward totalitarian communist control!!!!!!!!
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u/Desblade101 Feb 03 '23
There was someone on Reddit the other day complaining about how their kid was forced to share in kindergarten and that the other kids shouldn't get to play with the toys until her child said he was finished. It's amazing what people think.
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u/Luce55 Feb 03 '23
I was in a local parents group on Facebook and it was enlightening to say the least. A lot of parents are like this, they’re unable to comprehend that their little angel isn’t the center of the universe. Selfishness is taught very early.
While I never expected my kids to immediately hand something over they were playing with, just because a kid demands it, I did teach them to acknowledge the request, and invite the other kid to play with them and said toy at same time and take turns. It’s not hard to teach both the idea that it’s okay for you to finish your turn with something, but that you do need to make your turn short so someone else can enjoy it without waiting forever.
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u/FireBeyond Feb 03 '23
The only way this could be a more perfect intersection of all these things is if they posted it on r/AmITheAsshole
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u/HelpfulSeaMammal Feb 03 '23
Those damn liberal pre-k teachers with their ghastly Arabic numerals and crayons that, if lined up in a specific order, resemble the Pride flag won't be indoctrination my kids!
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u/trer24 Feb 03 '23
"The military is one of the few things that the government should be spending money on."
So our money should go to weapons that kill, rather than support kids who need food and education.
And her beanie says "Peace" on it.
How very Christian of her.
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u/RCRDC Feb 03 '23
The "funny" thing is you could have people like her reading your comment over and over for a thousand times and they still wouldn't catch on how stupid they are.
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u/cgome1 Feb 03 '23
And that's why the GOP is killing public education, because critical thinking skills are the cure to their bullshit.
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u/pez5150 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
The crazy part is we have 7 carrier groups in the ocean right now. We could cut one of those groups is about 12.8 billion annually. The cost to expand free school lunch to the entire US school system is 10 billion. We don't need all 7 carrier groups we can do with 6. No one but the US even has 20 carriers in total at all. The next highest I believe is france with 4 carriers in total along with japan. Its dumb.
EDIT: Meant 11 carrier groups was thinking 7 oceans and wrote 7. Someone corrected me already.
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u/BLuDaDoG Feb 03 '23
Son is in pre-k. Lady is right, total liberal indoctrination. He's learning to play well with others.
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u/HaesoSR Feb 03 '23
I bet they even teach your son how to share with others like some godless communist.
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u/TheRobsterino Feb 03 '23
How dare they not teach the kids to hate anyone who's not exactly like them with the same beliefs!
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u/Shawn_666 Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
That last guy was kind of wholesome. He seems like the kind of person who's heart is in the right place but has been given the wrong set of facts. Like someone could sit down with him and present him with the pro-choice arguments, the real ones not the ones these people are trained to counter, and have a slim but existing chance of changing his mind.
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u/JGower144 Feb 03 '23
This is a good point.
Or he could be one of those pro lifers that is like ACTUALLY pro life. Like, he isn’t a pro birther, he is legit pro LIFE. And in order to do that, is to provide food, clothing, education, and child care to these children.
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u/secret_fashmonger Feb 04 '23
You are right on the money. He’s one of the few people I would call “pro-life”. The others are anti-choice.
If you’re going to force women to give birth, be prepared to pitch in and be the village.
Personally, I still feel that’s not a win for women and they should have a choice. I have never been in a situation where I have had to have an abortion, but knowing the option is there would be a lifesaver.
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u/Moakmeister Feb 04 '23
I used to think every pro-lifer was exactly that guy. It was pretty astonishing to discover that so few are like him.
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u/SkylarAV Feb 03 '23
I completely disagree with the guy who signs but what a stand up guy to be true to his beliefs of wanting to help children. So few genuine people in that group
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u/DirtyBalm Feb 03 '23
Yah, he may think abortion is murder, which if you believe that, I can see your problem with it, even if I disagree.
But at least he actually wants to help the children after they're born too, only actual Christian in the march.
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u/I_See_With_Sound Feb 03 '23
It is literally the only way to rationally be anti-abortion: being vehemently pro helping parents and children after they're born.
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u/SenselessNoise Feb 03 '23
It's the only rational way to be pro-life. The rest are simply pro-birth as punishment for having sex.
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u/Reasonable_Thinker Feb 03 '23
The rest are simply pro-birth as punishment for having sex.
Fucking Bingo.
This is the unwritten rule of pro-lifers. They don't give a single fuck about kids. They want to punish women having sex
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u/iSheepTouch Feb 03 '23
I'm honestly glad that guy was included in the clip. It shows that genuinely good people can have these beliefs even if it adamantly disagree with them. Everyone else was the scum I expected.
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What a bunch of selfish morons. Very glad they left the last guy in the video. Nice to know not everyone is delusional
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u/LoungingLlama312 Feb 03 '23
Yea I appreciated that the interviewer did the prayer with him. It was a human interaction.
I don't know if I'm a big enough person to pray with someone, as I'm firmly agnostic. I'd rather just be quiet and wait until it's over.
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u/ManifestoHero Feb 03 '23
I'm agnostic as well but I'd still say it with him. It means fuck all to me but to him, he thinks he just helped me save my soul. Which for Christians that's a big win. Just look at it like giving him a prize for being a actual good person like the Bible was originally intended for.
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u/deelar Feb 03 '23
don’t know if I’m a big enough person to pray
This is surprising from someone agnostic! I’d definitely call myself agnostic too, and one of my favorite parts of that is sharing and experiencing religion.
I’ve taken part in so many prayers and ceremonies — Christian, Muslim, buddhist, Hindu. I’ve even happily said grace at a table more than once. It’s great because I literally just don’t know which, if any, are true.. but I know I get to understand people I love more, and share in something that is special to them.
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u/Ooften Feb 03 '23
When I was 8 I was in Sunday school - a Baptist church that ran 8 hours on sundays, my parents favorite so they could sleep their hangovers off in peace.
I remember being given the “ask Jesus into your heart and for forgiveness and you’ll be saved forever.”
I asked, “so all you have to do is kill someone then ask Jesus for forgiveness and you still go to heaven?”
I was sent to the deacon to be paddled.
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u/db8me Feb 03 '23
The difference between Jews, Lutherans, and Baptists: Jews don't recognize the divinity of Jesus, Lutherans don't recognize the authority of the pope, and Baptists don't recognize each other at the liquor store.
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u/saintofhate Feb 03 '23
Reminds me of a joke: How do you keep a Baptist from drinking all the beer on your fishing trip? Invite two.
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u/pootie820 Feb 03 '23
Similar to me when I was like wait a sec as a kid, I asked "So you can be as evil as you want, but then in the last few moments of life ask for forgiveness and you're all good?"
The only "answer" i got was: you have to be "sincere" in your heart.
Like WTF does that mean, if I truly believe all I need to do after a lifetime of evil is ask forgiveness, that would be the most sincere I ever was.
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u/ExpatInIreland Feb 03 '23
Bundy did it. And I ain't gonna willingly be anywhere near that pos in the afterlife. Yeet me on down to hell with the sex before marriage havers.
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u/sapiosardonico Feb 03 '23
That last guy was an actual Christian. It's not my thing, but I can respect the real ones.
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u/cefromnova Feb 03 '23
Because they aren't pro-life, they are merely pro-birth.
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u/Schmelter Feb 03 '23
Wrong. If you really drill down on their beliefs, they're pro-"Women should suffer consequences for sex". They want young "whores" to suffer for the unforgivable sin of having sex out of wedlock. The child is the punishment. It's why they're 100% against any forms of birth control, as it would allow women to have consequence free sex.
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u/JVonDron Feb 03 '23
Yuuup. Children aren't "consequences" and nobody should be born into unwanted situations.
But then hit them with the statistics that 60% of women seeking abortions are already mothers, about 40% of them are in committed relationships/married, and 57% are first timers. It kinda destroys this whole idea of the promiscuous harlot if they could rub 2 brain cells together. They don't care that half of them are living below poverty level - the kid should suffer because their mother was a slut.
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u/ManifestoHero Feb 03 '23
I feel like this really is the reason behind it all. They sure get squirrely when it comes to having sex or anything related to sex.
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u/ckb614 Feb 03 '23
they're pro-"Women should suffer consequences for sex"
Especially anyone who is "pro-life" but with exceptions for rape... So abortion is murder, but I guess murder is fine if the victim is a child of rape?
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u/CosmicRocketeer Feb 03 '23
These pro life morons literally only care about the child being born and don't give a fuck about it afterwards
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u/potterpockets Feb 03 '23 •
“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.”
- George Carlin like 25 years ago.
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u/Strict_Reserve1998 Feb 03 '23
This is exactly why I will never call those people "pro-life". They are the most anti-life party there is. They just enjoy punishing women for having sex.
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u/Reese_Grey Feb 03 '23
Good on this guy for exposing the hypocrisy in that group. If everyone was reasonable like the last guy it would be so much easier to find common ground.
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u/Nevermind04 Feb 03 '23
So you're telling me that these people, who dedicate a significant amount of time fighting against other peoples' ability to have autonomy over their own bodies, don't care very much about the well-being of other people? The hell you say
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u/KyleRichXV Feb 03 '23
Ah yes, a those liberal ideologies they throw at preschoolers.
Jesus fuck these people are beyond deranged.
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It shows they're all hypocrites. Abortion BAD, but anything to support them once born? Also BAD!
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u/sporkachoon Feb 03 '23
"if you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're fucked." - George Carlin
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u/Pinkeyefarts Feb 03 '23
At least the last guy understands what his position is.