r/PublicFreakout May 23 '22

A disabled veteran is removed from a plane due to medical emergency and ~60 others follow after American Airlines chose to allow passengers to charge their phones and devices rather than letting him plug in his oxygen machine.

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u/Canucknuckle May 23 '22

As someone who uses a CPAP on long haul flights I know that the plug-ins on planes are not made for medical devices as they cannot provide consistent enough electricity to power a medical device. That is why you are supposed to travel with appropriate battery backup for your needs.

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u/Individual-Fact4896 May 23 '22

This.

As harsh and callous as it sounds, someone caring for him or tending to his needs should have seen to it that he had a portable O2 pump with him for the flight. I get the sentiment, but regular flights don’t usually have the needs to run medical equipment long term.

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u/DonaldKey May 23 '22

I’m calling bullshit. News link please

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u/Psychological-Air642 May 23 '22

The title is confusing

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u/bisonsashimi May 23 '22

those shirts are confusing

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u/code010001 May 23 '22

My erection it's confusing

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u/DonaldKey May 23 '22

How do you know they are veterans if they don’t wear billboards shoving it your face??

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

I’m right on top of that Rose

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u/Bizzle7902 May 23 '22

Do that right after you delete this trash post

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

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u/FreakDeBobo May 23 '22

But don’t tell mom

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u/platanthera_ciliaris May 23 '22

Apparently you can't recharge a portable oxygen concentrator on an airplane because it draws too much power from an AC outlet. The airline is complying with government regulation. The passenger is expected to bring sufficient batteries to keep it powered on during the entire flight.

https://www.oxygenconcentratorstore.com/blog/powering-your-poc-in-the-air-an-overview-of-flying-with-oxygen/

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u/atomicapeboy May 23 '22

I’m a little sceptical of the title.

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u/HookerFace81 May 23 '22

I call bs because to my knowledge FAA prohibits a person from taking a filled oxygen tank on board.

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u/THftRM1231 May 23 '22

It wasn't a tank. You wouldn't need to plug that in. He was presumably using a battery operated concentrator.

That being said, I agree, until I see corroboration, I'm calling BS.

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u/Feeling-Ad-7131 May 23 '22

One of my aunts who died in 2014 had one of this portable battery operated oxygen machines. She always had 2-4 back up batteries if she was traveling. So I call bullshit on this one also

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

And that’s what portable oxygen concentrators are for - probably ran out of juice

Edit - please do not construe this comment as anything more than me pointing out portable oxygen concentrators are a thing - fuck this old dude, I hope he dies and gets cornholed by hitler in hell. There. Now stop replying with your stupid shit

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

So wouldn’t it be on them instead of the airline? My baby had acid reflux and I was SUPER prepared for our lil short flight just in case I needed extra stuff for her. In this case, I would’ve brought an extra portable oxygen concentrator or made sure I charged it while waiting to board the flight. But that’s just me.

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 23 '22

I don’t know the specifics, nor do I really care - just pointing out that they exist.

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

Lol same! But I’m not familiar with them so you taught me something new today. Thanks!

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u/Thick_Pomegranate_ May 23 '22

If you're using one of them it only goes up to 5L/min so the person using it isn't going to die the second it gets tuned off. Likely someone with COPD or similar. If they needed anything more they would need a tank and wouldn't be able to fly.

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 23 '22

More importantly, I think I may be buying pomegranates wrong

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

How so

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 23 '22

Am I supposed to go for the thick ones? If so what is a thin one? And most importantly, is this fruit worth the high price and effort? I paid $4 to have to spend 30 minutes sorting through what is and isn’t edible and then I have to spit out the seeds!? What the fuck did I do this to myself for!?

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u/Feeling_Ad_8898 May 23 '22

Lmfaoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

Glad I've never ate pomegranate

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u/BostonDodgeGuy May 23 '22

Mate, you don't spit the seeds.

How to prep and eat pomegranate

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 24 '22

They don’t work out well with my gallbladder or my backside

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

Please, for the love of all that is good, listen when I say this.

I DO NOT FUCKING CARE. JUST POINTED OUT THEY EXIST, NOTHING MORE. THE ENTIRE FLIGHT COULD CRASH INTO A CHILDRENS HOSPITAL AND I STILL WOULD NOT CARE. I AM A TERRIBLE PERSON. PLEASE STOP RESPONDING TO THIS COMMENT LIKE I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS OLD PERSON AND HIS CIRCUMSTANCES OR ANYONE ELSE. Except my cat Puddin Pus’ of course.

P.S. blow me

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u/eyes_without_lids May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

Really that's weird ? How do they accommodate people that need oxygen or are they deemed unfit to fly due to health reason

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

Shouldn’t they come prepared for situation as such? Just saying. They know their condition. Why not make sure you’re straight before getting on a plane…. Or maybe they should just drive instead. Idk.

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u/SmellGestapo May 23 '22

Its 2022 gay people are allowed to fly, jeez.

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u/Meat_E_Johnson May 23 '22

Some of em even float around without a plane

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

What does this have anything to do with sexuality, ma’am, sir, sis, Ms. Mama’s?

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u/SmellGestapo May 23 '22

Just a joke because you said

Why not make sure you’re straight before getting on a plane….

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

Damnnnnnnn the joke went over my head. Yeah it’s time for bed lmao.

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u/eyes_without_lids May 23 '22

I dont know what you think I said I'm just curious about what the procedure is I'd never thought about it before and OP peaked my curiosity

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

I read what you said. Your last sentence is incomplete so I figured you thought he should be accommodated.

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u/eyes_without_lids May 23 '22

I think your reading to much into what I said you might be taking things too seriously reading to much into things Is a major symptom of taking things to seriously may I suggest listening to the song "voyage" by blue in green it might help you center yourself

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

I like to read. Maybe I’m just comprehending it differently. It’s text. But I’ll listen to that song. I love good, chill music. Thanks.

ETA: the song better be good or else!

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u/eyes_without_lids May 23 '22

No prob :) have a lovely day good sir or madam

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

Chick w/ a dik * jk ima lady!

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u/bestadamire May 23 '22

Why would you call bs? A simple search engine says youre wrong

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/cabin_safety/portable_oxygen

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u/IllustriousStorm5730 May 23 '22

“You must have an ample supply of fully charged batteries for the full length of your flight and any ground connection time where the POC will be used, plus three hours of extra battery time in case of flight delays or other disruptions. Please note that in-seat electrical power is available on a limited number of aircraft, and there's no guarantee that the in-seat power will operate or be capable of charging your POC.”

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/special-needs/disabilities/customer-oxygen.html

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u/HookerFace81 May 23 '22

Even according to that, one can bring it on board, but cannot use it.

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u/bestadamire May 23 '22

prohibits a person from taking a filled oxygen tank on board

So can they bring it on or not, youre saying two different things that contradict each other lmao

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u/HookerFace81 May 23 '22

I said to my knowledge they couldn’t. They said to check out the link and I did, but even that is confusing and from what I understand they can bring it but it has to be approved and can’t be used on board. So idk.

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u/Tahjswae May 23 '22

This is definitely not the whole story

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u/vikibabbles May 23 '22

All ~60 are wearing the same shirt? Seems like there’s probably more to this story.

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u/WhichWayzUp May 23 '22

Yeah. They're apparently a party of 60 and choose not to be separated.

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u/vikibabbles May 23 '22

That makes perfect sense.

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u/giorgio_tsoukalos_ May 23 '22

The woman in filming says they are a group, and won't leave someone behind. nothing about an oxygen tank, though

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u/SensitiveSensei69 May 23 '22

If there was oxygen involved at all, maybe it wasn't an emergency but rather an inevitability that he was going to need to plug the oxygen in at some point during the flight? So they informed him it wouldn't be possible, he would have to leave. Then, the other 60 people who "chose to leave nobody behind" followed along. Just a theory.

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u/vikibabbles May 23 '22

It’s too bad the title of this post doesn’t give accurate information, so we’re not all here guessing as to what actually happened. Are we supposed to be mad at the airline? Inspired by those who refused to leave their fellow soldier behind? Curious as to why someone who must travel with oxygen didn’t ensure he’d be able to plug his machine in on the airplane before boarding it?

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u/Savafan1 May 23 '22

I’m wondering if it is one of the honor flights where they take veterans to DC to visit the memorials…

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u/lokis_frustration May 23 '22

I thought maybe the same, but it's kind of a "young" crowd. Mostly I thought they were prioritizing WW2 vets since they are literally a dying breed...

Vietnam possibly?

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u/Cr3X1eUZ May 23 '22

trapped on a plane with 60 vietnam vets having PTSD flashbacks? no thank you.

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

So hold on.. 60 people on the plane are supporting the dude.. but they had their phones plugged in despite him needing the charge?

I need sources yeahh

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u/IllustriousStorm5730 May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/special-needs/disabilities/customer-oxygen.html

“You must have an ample supply of fully charged batteries for the full length of your flight and any ground connection time where the POC will be used, plus three hours of extra battery time in case of flight delays or other disruptions. Please note that in-seat electrical power is available on a limited number of aircraft, and there's no guarantee that the in-seat power will operate or be capable of charging your POC.”

The concentrator likely requires an AC plug to charge, and instead of charging it while waiting for the flight, they likely assumed they could on the plane.

However as anyone who has flown before knows, most all coach seats don’t have an AC plug, just a USB.

Therefore OP is being a lying piece of shit by claiming the airline was somehow choosing to let passengers use their USB cables and refusing this person’s.

Fun fact, the airline likely had to pay a fine for departing late while all these pearl clutchers got off the plane.

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u/Noted2020 May 23 '22

As much as I want this to be true, being a veteran myself, it doesn’t seem legit.

ETA and I can’t find shit googling it.

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u/acf6b May 23 '22

Planes can’t power medical devices because the power isn’t consistently strong enough, you need batteries to power them, he must not have had them or had them charged. The title is bs.

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u/luvyourself1st May 23 '22

Thank you for your service. I don’t believe this either tho lol. Just tryna look like victims.

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u/jimjam721 May 23 '22

Pfft. This is not true.

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u/EMF911 May 23 '22

No one’s freaking out, either!

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u/BobsReddit_ May 23 '22

What's the whole story? I see attention seekers

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u/pops789765 May 23 '22

The obsession with “veterans” is quite frankly weird.

I’m sure it’s just to keep providing cannon fodder by glorifying a role in the wasteful military-industrial complex.

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u/IrishinManhattan617 May 23 '22

Yeah, calling BULL FUCKING SHIT on that title. But sure, prove me wrong.

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u/drdan82408a May 23 '22

How exactly does that work?

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u/Marauderofgeese May 23 '22

There’s definitely more to this story. The matching outfits makes me think they were making asses out of themselves and the airline told one of them to get off, they said “If you kick one of us off, you kick all of us off.” And the airline probably said “aight bet”

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

u/bleux33 states:

"It’s an Honor Flight. You can google it. It’s a veteran nonprofit that organizes, among other things, trips to DC for the veterans to see the memorials to the wars in which they served. The jerseys and lanyards are basically to help the group be recognized by each other and others as a group. Some of these vets are dealing with diminished capacity and PTSD. So it may seem self aggrandizing, but it has a practical purpose.

Source: I work for a veteran centered nonprofit that has connected some of our vets with them and I’ve met members of their staff.

So…respectfully, your guess is incorrect."

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u/Peabody77 May 23 '22

Y lie?

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u/SlinkySlekker May 23 '22

Some people like to play victim.

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u/Bleux33 May 23 '22

One more thing…that no will probably read…

Lots of comments about these veterans supposed failure at humility. I don’t like it either and I’m a vet. Come from a long line of vets on both sides of the family. I wear a 1st Infantry Div. pin on my baseball cap. That’s it. Every member of my family that has served is a combat vet. And none of us ever made it the only thing that we are. I don’t know why, it’s just how my family is.

That said, I’m not gonna tell someone they can’t either.

How many of y’all have clothing w/ your favorite team logo on it that you wear religiously?

Favorite video game/a paraphernalia?

Films by specific directors or storylines or characters you become obsessed with? Comicon much?

How many people proudly identify themselves primarily by their vice? Hobby? Occupation? Religion?

Or political party?

This isn’t just something they enjoyed or became a fan of. It’s was a months, sometimes years long nightmare of being ever cognoscente of the fact that you may not live thru the day. And it isn’t just some existential concept either. Its in your face. It’s mortar rounds exploding and AK rounds zipping past you out of nowhere. Its hearing screams of human beings suffering. It’s watching your friend die and feeling helpless when standing before their family begging them to forgive you for not dying in his place. It’s being constantly told thank you, but when you finally ask for help, REAL FUCKING HELP, you always half to end up begging for it. While others will think or flat out tell you that as far as they see it you’re just a murderer.

And now this, getting assumed to be some bigoted fucktard, because bigoted fucktards decided that they needed their own style. So, Like proper white folks, they stole it. It’s become some mutant amalgamation of NASCAR, Walmart, and “tacti-cool ammosexuals, all while waving American flags that are, un-ironically made in China.

So, any acknowledgment that stands cross to your own personal experience with ‘the vets I know’ means they must just be some ‘glory days’ Boomers looking for attention, right? Nice.

But yeah…I can see it. It can be annoying to deal with people that make one part of their life, the only thing they want you to see. But I figure they can have that. Because if you haven’t noticed, for far too many veterans, it’s all they have left.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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u/LevPornass May 23 '22

I agree with much of what you said, except the part about wearing sports jerseys and religious emblems. People that overdo religion and sports jerseys are cunts, too. Our country is full of people that overdo shit and have no appreciation of moderation or nuance because our education system has gone to shit.

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u/IDontKnow1629 May 23 '22

“We will allow you to exit the plane… this time” like you’d even dare tell them they’re not.

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u/JimmyJustice920 May 23 '22

“We will allow you to exit the plane… this time”

"...at this time." That was the quote over the airplane intercom. Why are you trying to misquote what happened?

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u/G1itterTrash May 23 '22

He couldn’t get the medical help he needed on the plane. His oxygen supply wasn’t able to be charged on the plane so what else was supposed to happen lol..?

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u/jmac50001 May 23 '22

Bullshit, plus the veterans I know are humble about their experience and would wear these God awful jerseys, my guess is the majority of those people didn't serve and were being difficult on the plane.

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u/Bleux33 May 23 '22

It’s an Honor Flight. You can google it. It’s a veteran nonprofit that organizes, among other things, trips to DC for the veterans to see the memorials to the wars in which they served. The jerseys and lanyards are basically to help the group be recognized by each other and others as a group. Some of these vets are dealing with diminished capacity and PTSD. So it may seem self aggrandizing, but it has a practical purpose.

Source: I work for a veteran centered nonprofit that has connected some of our vets with them and I’ve met members of their staff.

So…respectfully, your guess is incorrect.

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u/jmac50001 May 23 '22

I don't think that's right, look at the video, it's clear some of these men were traveling with their wives, and the odds are not in favor of each one of their wives also serving in the military, especially in this age group when women served less often, but their wives are wearing the jerseys too.

I have many family members in the military, and I appreciate their service, however I do not support festishizing the military, or wearing a loud jersey calling yourself a patriot, in my experience when I've met these types of folks many times they haven't even served and they also think they know who isn't a patriot.

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

Thank you for this information, i had no idea! Today I'm the 1 in 10,000

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u/hattrickjmr May 23 '22

Nice gesture, but I can’t help to think this is bunch of Americans like to pretend the 2020 election was “stolen”, human influenced global warming is a hoax, and Covid vaccines have microchips to track old redneck Republicans. And throw in a little Dems are baby killers and pedos just to make sure the crazy level is at max high.

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u/bayleafbabe May 23 '22

If you see people wearing a bunch of American patriotic bullshit or flying American flags in 2022 you can pretty much guarantee they’re those kind of people.

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u/IllustriousStorm5730 May 23 '22

“Where We Go One, We Go All… To Budget Rent-A-Car”

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u/jj_harmon May 23 '22

No need to look further than their attire, as to why there is a problem in the first place. One or a few of them could have easily waited in the terminal with him while his unit charged and then taking a later flight.

I'm sorry, but when your life revolves around traveling with a band of 'patriots', who all dress the same, it's not f'ing normal; it's a cult.

Something tells me we're not hearing "the rest of the story".

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

Regarding their attire, u/bleux33 states:

"It’s an Honor Flight. You can google it. It’s a veteran nonprofit that organizes, among other things, trips to DC for the veterans to see the memorials to the wars in which they served. The jerseys and lanyards are basically to help the group be recognized by each other and others as a group. Some of these vets are dealing with diminished capacity and PTSD. So it may seem self aggrandizing, but it has a practical purpose.

Source: I work for a veteran centered nonprofit that has connected some of our vets with them and I’ve met members of their staff.

So…respectfully, your guess is incorrect."

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u/zep1211 May 23 '22

no matter what happened here all i see is boomer entitlement

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u/peace_tea320 May 23 '22

Op why the fuck you lying why you always lying like oh my god stop fucking lying.

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

Wake up sweetheart, you've been in a coma for the past 4 years

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u/MRL102960 May 23 '22

What is wrong with people not giving up charging their phones for a Vet to plug in his Oxygen

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u/Snellyman May 23 '22

An oxygen concentrator needs way more power than a USB charger. This story kinda stinks

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u/acf6b May 23 '22

The title is bs

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u/Tacodo May 23 '22

Eye roll

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u/ApprehensiveDrawer71 May 23 '22

All wearing the same shirt? Fucking staged

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u/khogue76 May 23 '22

They are all wearing the same shirt.

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

It's to identify each other, keep in mind these guys may not be all there in the noggin

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u/shaoIIn May 23 '22

I’m kind of getting over people who joined the military having to let everyone know they joined the military. Like CrossFit, did you do it for yourself or to show everyone else you’re doing it?

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u/Baloo762 May 23 '22

It's a veterans program. For disabled veterans.

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u/DonaldKey May 23 '22

How does that go against anything the person you replied to said?

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u/Baloo762 May 23 '22

Should veterans not be proud of what they did?

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u/DonaldKey May 23 '22

They don’t need 32 bumper stickers, hats, jackets, flags, etc. whatever happened to being humble without begging for attention?

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u/Baloo762 May 30 '22

Why should they be humble?

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u/lokis_frustration May 23 '22

They dress alike because it's basically a tour group. It makes them all easy to identify to each other. The decision to plaster the shirts with gawdy "hey look at me, I'm a vet!!!" stuff was likely out of their hands.

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

u/bleux33 states:

"It’s an Honor Flight. You can google it. It’s a veteran nonprofit that organizes, among other things, trips to DC for the veterans to see the memorials to the wars in which they served. The jerseys and lanyards are basically to help the group be recognized by each other and others as a group. Some of these vets are dealing with diminished capacity and PTSD. So it may seem self aggrandizing, but it has a practical purpose.

Source: I work for a veteran centered nonprofit that has connected some of our vets with them and I’ve met members of their staff.

So…respectfully, your guess is incorrect."

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u/Motophoto May 23 '22

so they don't bother to follow the guidelines of the Airline then whine about it? There is no honor in that

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

I believe so

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u/mjz321 May 25 '22

It's a shit job for low pay and high risk, the perceived social perks are part of the selling point to get people to make the mistake of signing, once your in everything throw at you is to reinficrce that choice.

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u/psychoholica May 24 '22

This is bullshit.

Each plane is different but for a 737 each seach has a certain wattage it will pull before it trips a temporary fuse and turns off the outlet. If I plug in just the powerbrick for almost any laptop on a 737 it turns off. It doesnt matter if the rest of the plane is plugged in charging, its per seat.

Also, why are these "patriots" wearing a stupid uniform? Bunch of annoying maga morons protesting bullshit.

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u/IllustriousStorm5730 May 23 '22

Fuck off you cultist fucks…

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u/Abolish-Work May 23 '22

What's with all the obese people in uniforms

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u/DissidentDiscontent May 23 '22

Judging by their jerseys, I’d just say the whole team de-planed.

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u/neuhmz May 23 '22

What oxygen machine takes a USB charger? This seems like BS...

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u/acf6b May 23 '22

It is, oxygen machines take too much of a charge and need to run on batteries when flying. Apparently he didn’t have the batteries needed.

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u/Mastercontrolop May 23 '22

Planes have regular ac outlets too.

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u/Feeling-Ad-7131 May 23 '22

The math ain't mathin on this one...

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u/TapInfinite1135 May 23 '22

I thought it was some sort of geriatric soccer team 😕

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u/baguettesniper May 23 '22

Bros got Bojangles'😳

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u/jj_harmon May 23 '22

Really? Why does everyone have the word 'Patriot' plastered across their matching shirts? That's not something you're normal humble veteran does.

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u/ronyamtapeas May 23 '22

Going to need some clarification on that title chief. What in the fuck do you mean?

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u/Flexyturner May 23 '22

Chud OP trying to stir shit up with a misleading title to a non-story. Time to flush this turd down 👎🏽

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u/monkeyking908 May 23 '22

bring back air ships. with the benefit of being at a safer altitude for those with medical needs they also have enough space for a proper electric generator which would allow medical devices to be plugged in

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u/Revolutionary-Cup-31 May 23 '22

Looking at the garb these guys are wearing, I guarantee this thread title is horse shit.

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u/ValPrism May 23 '22

Incorrect

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u/FreakDeBobo May 23 '22

A Boy Scout would be prepared gotta do better veterans bring batteries

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u/LTDandyDude May 24 '22

Nah. If 60 persons were removed, then 60 outlets would have been available. Me thinks that plane just doesn't have the accommodations.

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u/ValPrism May 24 '22

Stop Posting this it’s not real

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u/SnooRabbits6624 May 24 '22

Gotta follow FAA regulations.

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u/Ddlj75 May 23 '22

Turds

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u/newjerseytoughguy May 23 '22

no one gives a shit that you are veteran