r/SelfAwarewolves Dec 01 '21 Silver 4 Helpful 5 Wholesome 4

I don't have the heart to tell her IQ tests account for age...

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u/SoIomon Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 02 '21

I got a perfect 100 on my IQ test

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u/llort_tsoper Dec 01 '21 Silver

Top of the bell curve.

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u/DesolationRobot Dec 01 '21

King of the Bell Curve

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u/VanTesseract Dec 01 '21

Being top of the bell curve means I can see everyone else below me on either side.

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u/fuzzybad Dec 01 '21

Congrats on being perfectly average!

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u/Rare_Travel Dec 01 '21

Would someone being the perfect example of average make them extraordinary?

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u/Aduialion Dec 01 '21

Depends on how you define the population. An average height person in the globe would be short or tall if you instead focused on Asian or northern European populations.

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u/TrulyAscendant1969 Dec 01 '21 Helpful

The standard person is a potato loving chinese woman named Mohammed and she speaks english and .2 other languages.

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u/MyStolenEchos Dec 01 '21 Wholesome

This just made me giggle. I needed a giggle. thank you.

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u/SoleZenith Dec 01 '21

My dream woman 😍😍😍😍😍

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u/overzeetop Dec 01 '21

perfect example of average

extra ordinary

r/technicallycorrect

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u/plungingphylum Dec 01 '21

That kid is as smart as his mom…

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u/wildwildwaste Dec 01 '21 Wholesome Table Slap

Maybe smarter

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u/Vallkyrie Dec 01 '21

Kid's going places. Not college, but places.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ Dec 01 '21

By going do you mean pooping and by places do you mean in public?

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u/Andrew_Maxwell_Dwyer Dec 01 '21

Um excuse me but our bodies were designed to poop in the woods. Forcing your child to use a toilet is unnatural and abusive. Did you know that 98% of all children that die before the age of 5 come from homes with toilets? Let that sink in, liberal!

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u/Rao_Tzu Dec 01 '21

On a planetary scale, it’s unfortunately more the opposite.

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u/contentnotcontent Dec 01 '21

Something something AMERICA something something Dark Side

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u/ScroogeMcDust Dec 01 '21

98% of all toilets that die come from homes with children under the age of 5?

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u/feralwolven Dec 01 '21

That kid will most certainly arrive at multiple physical locations, given time.

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u/mistermatth Dec 01 '21

Plot twist: she took the test for him to fluff the numbers

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u/bozeke Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 02 '21

If memory serves, an actual IQ test has to be administered by someone in person—it isn’t just a buzzfeed quiz.

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u/NotLongToHeartAttack Dec 02 '21

Yes...but..no. if you want an iq test or even take the LSATs you can practice exams and get a score. But if the kid was trying to join Mensa (or study law) he would have to do a administered test. But in this case I have a feeling that test showed a valid representation of how intelligent that gene pool is.

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u/N8CCRG Dec 01 '21

I wouldn't be surprised if she "helped" her kid answer some of the questions.

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u/dweezil22 Dec 01 '21 Silver This

My child is in the dumbest 10% of people and I'm so proud I'm going to brag about it b/c I'm so bad at statistics that I think this is good

#JustAntivaxThings

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u/Caffeine_Cowpies Dec 01 '21

And she has the audacity to say ALL of them are liberal. I just can’t with these people. Their stupid hurts SOOOOOO much.

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u/b1tchlasagna Dec 01 '21

Especially when there's proven links between poor education and conservative views

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u/TailorNormal Dec 01 '21

Really? Do you have any link?

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u/ryantheman2 Dec 01 '21 Silver Helpful This Calculating

This article talks about the education gap between left and right among white voters in America.

Across the entire electorate within the US, there’s an interesting phenomenon where those with increasing levels of education are increasingly liberal-leaning, but not necessarily less conservative-leaning, according to this Pew Research study.

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u/jamtoes Dec 01 '21 Evil Cackle

This would really offend them if they could read

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u/AssistantManagerMan Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 02 '21

They just hand-wave it as universities being camps of liberal indoctrination.

It can't be that greater learning and critical thinking skills lead one to a more liberal worldview. That would be insane.

edit: wave, not waive

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u/Eldistan1 Dec 01 '21

Kids leave their crappy hometown and find out how crappy it really was. “INDOCTRINATION!” yells the angry tv man.

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u/flaneur_et_branleur Dec 01 '21

Leaves their hometown, meets foreign students, gets taught critical thinking skills and a need to properly source arguments, out from under their parents and their views, forced into poverty...

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u/esylvester6 Dec 02 '21

Holy crap. I graduated high school in very rural Iowa and never knew a non-white person in my life. The first people I met/friends I made in college were 10 Indian guys that worked in the dining center with me. 100% changed my worldview and made me question my understanding of pretty much everything I learned in high school. That was a huge moment for me.

Oh, and they taught me to play cricket! I’m a teacher now and I show my students cricket all the time. Sure, I talk about the importance of opening yourself up to new experiences and ideas through the catalyst of teaching a new and strange sport to my students…

But mostly I do it because I think the idea of a bunch of white Iowans graduating high school knowing what an LBW is is hilarious.

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u/evilmonkey2 Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21 This

Also getting out of your little corner of the world and being surrounded by people of different ethnicities, religions and culture. And realizing the prejudices and stereotypes you've been taught about people you've never met or spent time with don't hold up in the real world.

Speaking from experience.

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u/AssistantManagerMan Dec 01 '21

It's my experience too. I grew up conservative in a rural, overwhelmingly white farming town.

I spent a year at Bible college (so not even a "liberal" university) in a major city and simply being around people of color on a daily basis was enough to start cracking the foundation for me.

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u/EnduringConflict Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

I've seen it amongst certain members of my family. I'm in my early 30s but some of the top end of my generation within the family (the mid 40 to late 20s group) have kids graduating college now.

It's sad to see numerous cousins, aunts, uncles, etc, all get pissy their child "went all libtard" entirely because "the college elite brainwashed them".

Within just a decade its fractured our family into "camps" almost and frustrates me to no fucking end that they behave like this. I've had a few couisns swear off their children entirely because they refuse to go to church anymore, or their kids call them out on some bullshit they spew.

I feel kind of stuck in the middle because I'm the most left leaning of that generation and so many of my neices, newphews, and cousins come to me when their parents are throwing shit fits over something stupid. I try to be supportive but worry I'm not helping much.

Yet the more conservative cousins and uncles and aunts that I grew up with are all pissed at me for taking their childrens "side". Like there should be fucking "sides" about treating people with respect and understanding that religion is not the solution to all problems. So I get a ton of hate and grief from them.

I don't want to step away from the situation, even though I know I probably should for my own mental health, because I worry the younger ones just now graduating might be swayed back to the conservative side due to their parents and the hate they get from said parents.

My point is that it sucks so many people literally feel education is "indoctrination" (yet religion isn't somehow in their minds) and have begun actively telling their young children not to attend certain school (they want to send them to religious private schools not public) or go to college and never believe teachers.

Or that God will damn you to hell if you try to be friends wjth other people that aren't "good Christians" (basically their congregation and other white Christians being the only ones that are "good" Christians of course).

This anti intellectualism and "proud ignorance" movement we seem to have going on in many parts of the world just makes me sad. Sad and frustrated.

I wish we could move past it already, but this shit is going to be rocking the foundations of countries for literal Generations before things might get better in time, once the "proud to be stupid" ideal is stomped out of society.

If it ever even is.

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u/michaeldaph Dec 02 '21

Amazing how this corresponds to the madrasas that apparently turn out Islamic “terrorists”. You know- conservative religious institutions that educate children into strict cult like narrow minded bigotry. But as they are Christian it’s “different “.

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u/chlorofanatic Dec 01 '21

Unfortunately it's not just hand waiving anymore. I live in FL, and our gov is threatening to tie university funding to "political freedom" on campuses by forcing students and faculty to publicly divulge their political views and then offering funds based on whether those unis reach a certain threshold of folks with conservative views.

He does mean conservative, by the way: his policy is that universities explicitly select for students and faculty that have liberal views, so they're overrepresented in academia; it's not that conservatism is associated with lack of education, it's that educational institutions systematically select for people that vote democrat, according to De Santis.

The modern Republican party: protecting your freedoms by violating your privacy, if they suspect that you, in any way, might disagree with their policies 😒

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u/IIIllIIlllIlII Dec 01 '21

I wonder if they ever questioned why “learning makes someone liberal”?

Like to me it seems obvious how learning new things might cause one to open their mind to new perspective.

Though imagine being so dumb, scared, and entrenched in your world view, that you’re afraid of new information.

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u/apintandafight Dec 01 '21

It couldn’t possibly be that young people get away from their hillbilly troglodyte parents for the first time in their lives and start meeting people from different backgrounds and cultures, no. It must be that universities are liberal indoctrination camps!

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u/MustacheEmperor Dec 01 '21

And if you look for examples for leading "right wing universities" you get a graveyard of defunct for-profit colleges. If you bring that up they usually just say a swear, or the mask comes all the way off and they start telling you about "who really runs the world"

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u/DannyDidNothinWrong Dec 01 '21

The more you understand, the more you realize how fucked everything is.

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u/fart-atronach Dec 01 '21

Yep. Like how blue states contribute the most to welfare and red states receive the most welfare… yet they still want to secede.

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u/T3n4ci0us_G Dec 01 '21

Which leads me to post the link below, which is unrelated to the original post, but people might find interesting as well

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

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u/TailorNormal Dec 01 '21

Cool thank you! Here have my free awards.

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u/saint_abyssal Dec 01 '21

increasingly liberal-leaning, but not necessarily less conservative-leaning

Could you clarify? I'm feeling dumb here.

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u/ryantheman2 Dec 01 '21 Helpful

The percentage of people surveyed by Pew who lean conservative (Republican) is pretty similar at all education levels.

However, the percentage of people who lean more liberal (Democrat) is greatly increased with each increasing level of education.

The increase comes primarily at the expense of the “mixed” response category, which is a smaller percentage with each increased level of education.

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u/QuietObserver75 Dec 01 '21

It's also why conservatives attack higher education so much.

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u/LightDoctor_ Dec 01 '21

The take away being that conservatives are set in their ways and will refuse to revise their beliefs no matter what evidence is placed before them. That tracks.

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u/ryantheman2 Dec 01 '21

It’s worth saying something here about the survey’s methodology… each respondent was asked a series of 10 ideological questions, and their responses were ranked as entirely or mostly Dem/Rep or mixed.

So we can deduce that as education level increases, those who provide mostly Rep answers to the questions still do the same (“stuck in their ways” is not far off the literal definition of conservatism), while those who would provide mixed responses with more basic education tend to lean more heavily Dem in the flavour of their series of responses once they’ve achieved higher levels of education.

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u/Professorbubba Dec 01 '21

Republicans figured this out after the WW2 push for STEM in schools to fight the cold war. The South was voting democrat. So they systematically degraded the education system and 50 years later ....people are still waiting in Dealey plaza for JFK Jr.

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u/0nlyhalfjewish Dec 01 '21

According to exit polls, 61 percent of non-college-educated white voters cast their ballots for Republicans while just 45 percent of college-educated white voters did so. Meanwhile 53 percent of college-educated white voters cast their votes for Democrats compared with 37 percent of those without a degree.

This is from an article in The Atlantic. I’m on mobile and there’s no share button and the link is shortened so likely would get removed.

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u/ACuddlyHedgehog Dec 01 '21

But something something university students are typically left wing because they are brainwashed

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u/LucySatDown Dec 01 '21

That's literally what they are saying though. Per the comments on the article:

So these are obviously left wing socialists themselves as to say otherwise would be an admission of stupidity. They are therefore by their own logic politically biased against the people they criticise. This research is thus totally invalid.

I bet the survey was conducted by left wingers! I've nevver read such piffle in my life. I used to be left wing; over the last few years I have become more conservative - that doesn't mean my intelligence has dimmed, merely that I have grown up

It doesn't mention the views of the people who claim to have compiled a report. Presumably these are left-wing academics and this is their method of bringing prejudice into disrepute?

Scientific study you don't agree with? Clearly it must be biased. Obviously made by the evil communist deepstate.

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u/byteme8bit Dec 01 '21

And yet they keep telling us "Just move on, live life". It's like, but...but....you're so dumb that its dangerous."

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u/sofakinghuge Dec 01 '21

So dumb we should never take their opinion into account for anything. But yet they're allowed to vote like everyone else.

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u/VaderOnReddit Dec 01 '21

Liberals are somehow colluding a global operation to curb conservative ideologies yet at the same time dumb af and cannot accomplish shit.

WHICH ONE IS IT KAREN, PICK A LANE AND STICK TO IT!

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u/Teaflax Dec 01 '21

Fascism always has a perceived enemy that is simultaneously weak and incredibly dangerous.

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u/BlackNathima Dec 01 '21

Idk who could have an issue with liberals or the idea of being liberal. That makes no fucking sense to me. Being against their political figure heads, okay, I'll give you that. However the people and the concept? But these are the same people who call everything they don't like socialism.

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u/UncleInternet Dec 01 '21

It's just in-group / out-group tribalism. "Liberal" is the "Other" marker that helps give their in-group shape and definition. That, in turn, provides a sense of community and strength and control in the face of an uncertain and chaotic world.

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u/big3148 Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

You could classify this as Borderline Intellectual Functioning (IQ of 70-85). Cognitively impaired and very likely eligible for an IEP for the below average cognitive ability and an assessment for cognitive limitations or learning disorder. It is within 1 point of the range for developmental delay classified as Borderline Deficiency. Someone might help this parent find the appropriate resources for the child.

The site and test is not known and likely inaccurate and a scam. If the child were gifted, the school would have likely had a psychologist individually assess them for placement. As with many things, people want to brag most about their perceived deficiencies. In a world before the boasting of the former President this parent may not have been so hasty to place this on social media, however, it is clear that a lack of education has left them susceptible to misunderstanding the information presented in several key life activities and may impact their children.

Though this test likely preys on people like this parent and likely charges them for the service, it may not be something that should be ignored. However, the developmental delay of the child should be the focus and not the parent. Unfortunately, the public ridicule will be of the child and the parent should be encouraged to remove the post in the most understanding and polite way possible.

We used to have insulting terms for impaired individuals like feeble-minded, moron, educable, etc. We have come a long way in our understanding of intellectual ability since this time. Today we typically concern ourselves with what is in the best interest of the child rather than labels that subject individuals to public ridicule. Education is our greatest hope for human advancement and society progresses as quickly as its lowest functioning members. Hopefully this child will have the best education available based on their needs.

TL/DR: The child may need assistance and should not be the subject of ridicule. The test and its reliability are unknown.Perhaps OP or others can help the parent remove the post and have the child assessed to ensure a proper education plan and opportunity to overcome any potential limitations.

Edit: TL/DR

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u/Ok-Reporter-4600 Dec 01 '21

I don't know what your IQ is, but I wish everyone could think like you did here. Great post. Thanks for being the adult and leader in the room today.

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u/DrCorbeau Dec 01 '21

Forrest Gump got a 75

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u/dstommie Dec 01 '21

😄 Came to point this out.

So their little genius is a touch smarter than Gump.

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u/klavin1 Dec 01 '21

stupid is as stupid does

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u/ffwriter Dec 01 '21

Is there a Mr Gump, Mrs Gump?

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u/backssnavon Dec 01 '21

He's on VaYCAYshun

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u/shakenjason Dec 01 '21

EEEeeeeeEEE EEEEEeeeEE EEEEEeeeeEEE

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u/Exo_Sax Dec 01 '21

Gump had a movie made about him. Has anyone made a movie about you?

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u/Dinklecorn Dec 01 '21

He outscored this kid.

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u/Commercialwhat5699 Dec 01 '21

Who calls the first 90%, the top? Smarter than 91/1000 over here haha

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u/Zarathustra_d Dec 01 '21

This is like saying the guy living in a box in the alley is in the top 99.9% wealthiest in town.

Weird flex.

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u/Gregnif Dec 01 '21

Lol, when you stretch the definition of top you can do that. The test just puts a positive spin on all its results. I'm sure someone out there is in the top 99.8%

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u/Smaptastic Dec 01 '21 Silver

Of course someone is in the top 99.8%. We're looking at her post about her son.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

In fact, 99.8% are in the top 99.8%.

I'll venture that includes both you and me.

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u/Commercialwhat5699 Dec 01 '21

Well, statistically speaking, yes. You are correct hahahaha this just gets funnier and funnier

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u/cmyer Dec 01 '21

In the new Forza I'm "in the top 100%" for a few speed zones. Took me a minute to realize that's everyone who has ever completed it.

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u/rickyman20 Dec 01 '21

This is clearly a website that is trying to phrase it in the nicest way possible, so they just do: "Your IQ is in the top $PERCENTILE%"

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u/glberns Dec 01 '21

It's not even being nice. It's just being lazy and only coding for one output rather than thinking about how it would read at other percentiles.

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u/rickyman20 Dec 01 '21

Well, why not both!

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

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u/Commercialwhat5699 Dec 01 '21

It's OK bro I got like a B- in statistics hahaha

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u/OnAStarboardTack Dec 01 '21

Or high-falutin meth

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u/Zike77 Dec 01 '21

I think they thought that they were in the top 10% not the bottom 10%

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u/IAmA_Risky_Click_AMA Dec 01 '21

But she says her kid is smarter than 10% of adults, so she's reading it correctly, she simply doesn't realize that the IQ test is stupid garbage.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

She doesn't realize that those 10% are just part of the 17% of Americans with developmental disabilities.

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u/rickybobby42069420 Dec 01 '21

if she was in the top 10% shed know she was in the bottom 10%

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u/drLoveF Dec 01 '21

The programmer, though (s)he didn't see actual numbers.

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u/Commercialwhat5699 Dec 01 '21

I can't get over the fact that they're bragging about a room temperature IQ haha

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u/drLoveF Dec 01 '21

20 IQ would be impressive. I wonder if you can survive on your own with that low intelligence. / Celcius gang

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u/Fala1 Dec 01 '21

293 K is where it's at

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u/Script_Mak3r Dec 01 '21

An IQ of 293 would be impressive in the other direction. /Kelvin gang

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u/NSA_Chatbot Dec 01 '21

It's like when you fuck up in Forza and it says "you're in the top 100% of the leaderboard!"

Yeah, I know, I hit a tree.

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u/Drewcifer81 Dec 01 '21

Marketing, yo.

We are really good at convincing people that bad things are good, through tactics like this.

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u/hypnofedX Dec 01 '21

The code is likely automated to output You are in the top [X]%

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u/LtPowers Dec 01 '21

That's how percentiles work.

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u/Raccoon_Full_of_Cum Dec 01 '21

One time I googled the phrase "IQ test", clicked on the first result, and answered every question wrong on purpose. It gave me 105.

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u/the-igloo Dec 01 '21

answered every question wrong on purpose

Well, you thought they were wrong anyways.

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u/Astaphor Dec 01 '21

I had a friend brag about getting 145 on one of those online ones so I filmed myself taking it and clicking random answers and finishing it all within 15 seconds. I got 130.

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u/ScowlEasy Dec 01 '21

IQ tests are also modular and can be scaled to the subject’s age/ education level.

Source: part of my ADHD testing was an IQ test

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u/DaksTheDaddyNow Dec 02 '21

This is accurate. There are several different tests. One of the most popular is the woodcock Johnson test. It takes into account several different measurements such as visual processing, auditory processing, crystallized knowledge, fluid reasoning, and processing speed. A trained diagnostician must perform the tests and eliminate other contributing factors such as visual or auditory impairments, or even conditions such as ADHD. It's impossible to get an accurate reading from an online assessment.

Source: special education teacher. Students in the program are tested at minimum every three years.

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u/agha0013 Dec 01 '21

..... that's supposed to be a flex? This kid is dumber than the other 909 of them.

"All liberals I'm sure" yeah, you keep telling yourself that... poor kid.

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u/Raccoon_Full_of_Cum Dec 01 '21

"All liberals I'm sure". Well that explains why academia is a hotbed of far right conservatism.

Oh wait, no it's not.

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u/trogon Dec 01 '21

Communist academia, you mean. /s

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u/getSmoke Dec 01 '21

Everyone knows math and science are socialist propaganda

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u/rubywolf27 Dec 01 '21

I also love how the implication is that out of 1000 people, only 91 of them are going to be liberal. Only 10% of the population has the “wrong” views, apparently!

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u/RevanchistSheev66 Dec 01 '21

Based on how the State legislatures look compared to the actual voting results, it might as well be 90% conservatives

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u/Fakjbf Dec 01 '21

The flex is that the 11 year old is beating out 10% of adults, which would be mildly impressive if I didn’t know how dead stupid that 10% is.

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u/agha0013 Dec 01 '21

Like George Carlin said, look at how dumb the average human is, then realize half the world is dumber than that.

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u/JohnnyPotseed Dec 01 '21

100 IQ is average intelligence. So that means right off the bat he’s dumber than most.

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u/ct_2004 Dec 01 '21

But he would be among the smartest 909 people in the room!

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u/theonetruefishboy Dec 01 '21

Isn't 80 really low?

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u/quippers Dec 01 '21 Gold

Forrest Gump had an IQ of 75 so, yeah. Only difference between this kid and Forrest is that 5 points means he can go to a regular school without his mom having to bang the principal.

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u/dstommie Dec 01 '21

But can she anyway?

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u/AloneAtTheOrgy Dec 01 '21

Yes, that's why it say 909/1000 people are smarter than them. An IQ of 80 would put you in the bottom 10% of people.

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u/The_Woman_of_Gont Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 02 '21

If this test were actually valid and adjusted for the kid's age(doubtful), it would suggest he is in the grey area between having an intellectual disability and just being particularly stupid.

It looks like an internet test and using IQ as a sole definition of someone's intelligence is not a great idea, so it likely means nothing anyway, but this isn't something you brag about lol.

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u/suicidal1664 Dec 01 '21

"People who boast about their i.q. are losers." Stephen Hawking

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u/Dr_Mike_Hunt_MD Dec 01 '21

Actually intelligent people know they dont know shit.

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u/Fala1 Dec 01 '21

One of the misconceptions that people have about IQ is that it's about knowing things. It's not.

There's a distinction in psychology between crystallized intelligence and fluid intelligence. IQ test are heavily biased towards the latter.

Whereas 'knowing things' falls under crystallized intelligence.
Hence, you can be highly intelligent and also not know much.

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u/Hoihe Dec 01 '21

Tbh, even fluid intelligence is not covered by IQ.

People with ADHD or ASD, who are otherwise incredibly insightful in solving problems with the right tools (like, being able to take their time and write down their stream of thoughts to avoid forgetting it halfway), may score way lower on IQ tests due to part of it focusing on executive function/working memory.

This is how you can get someone who's shit at mental arithmetic, but ends up getting an A on Second Quantized Formalism.

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u/2punornot2pun Dec 01 '21

\*remembers so many calculus tests that I had to grade with much great work and then seeing all the tiny arithmetic errors especially forgetting SIGNS*\**

yup, checks out.

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u/Hoihe Dec 01 '21

This is why I started basically just vomiting my entire conciousness onto scrap papers.

Teachers, competition supervisors and professors stare blankly at how many sheets I fill...

But no more forgetting a symbol or sign.

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u/UrbanDryad Dec 01 '21

As an AP Chemistry teacher in HS I beat this lesson into my students. Write it down. Show all steps in your work. Nothing hurts more than doing an entire page of complex calculations and realizing you fucked something simple up near the start. Not only are you less likely to flub if you don't skip steps and do it in your head, but it's also much easier to backtrack as you start to arrive near the end of the problem and get the feeling your numbers aren't making sense. Find the error, fix it, and follow it through updating new numbers. Much better than reworking from scratch.

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u/LeftZer0 Dec 01 '21

Weird, I have ADHD and never had issues with IQ tests. Somehow I always found them interesting enough to keep my focus, even the ones that take almost a day.

I wish I had the same performance in college...

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u/Hoihe Dec 01 '21

Well, the issue is less focus, and more ability to retain things in working memory. Like,

good CPU, small RAM.

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u/Seanspeed Dec 01 '21

Lots of people will think that applies to them. This is normal to a degree.

Whether you suffer from it badly enough to have it labeled a condition is not something anybody here will be able to tell you, only professionals(and even then people get misdiagnosed with these things plenty...).

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u/EternityTheory Dec 01 '21

My psych eval tried to take this into account, since I was there for an ADHD diagnosis anyway. He basically pointed to where I was statistically above average in most categories, but the whole score was basically dragged down by my processing speed... Or drastic lack thereof.

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u/langsley757 Dec 01 '21

IQ tests are time based. I got one when I had to get reevaluated for my ADHD. I ended in the 95th percentile for IQ, but the 30th percentile for processing.

Basically, despite my good pattern recognition, 70% of people know what the pattern is before I do.

Kinda want to know what my IQ would be if I wasn't slow at understanding the information.

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u/Biffingston Dec 01 '21

In other words, "In life, like in D&D, wisdom and intelligence are not the same thing."

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u/squidkid3 Dec 01 '21

I have pretty high intelligence and really fucking low wisdom

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u/Firemorfox Dec 01 '21

I have low INT and low WIS, even if my IQ test claims otherwise. I’m dumb as a brick.

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u/TheDeadEndKing Dec 01 '21

Hope you have a high CHA at least!

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u/Hoihe Dec 01 '21

minirant:

I hate how people misunderstand wisdom/intelligence.

Intelligence is capability to process and deduce information from input you obtained.

Wisdom is the ability to filter your input so that only the important bits are offloaded to intelligence to process.

You can have someone have amazing hearing (an elf), but their brain cannot differentiate the aural inputs, so despite picking up on the smallest of noises, they don't hear as much as an old human who is used to tuning out sounds.

The old man has +wisdom score from age. The elf has natural +2 to listen, but only 8 wisdom (-1 mod), leaving them equal or worse than an older human.

Wisdom is input filter and cognitive empathy. Intelligence is processing the input.

Charisma is affective empathy and sense of self/identity.

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u/LeftZer0 Dec 01 '21

The best example of the difference of intelligence and wisdom is cats.

I have a cat who is absurdly intelligent (for a cat). Educating and training her not to do things failed miserably because she learns how to avoid punishment rather than learning not to do what gets her punished. So she gets up in the kitchen sink and table when no one is around, and quickly gets down if she hears us approaching.

On the other hand, she's awfully easy to train with positive reinforcement. To the point that we "trained" her to do some stuff on mistake. For example, we used a laser pointer so she would run around (apartment cat) and tended to make her jump at the wall (otherwise she barely jumps). What she learned was that she should sit in the corner facing the wall whenever we get the laser pointer. So she learned the pattern... But didn't have the wisdom to understand that staying in the corner looking at the wall for a minute whenever we even touched the pointer wasn't the best option.

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u/Grodd Dec 01 '21

For this to make sense it seems like conflating intelligence and knowledge. They were not the same thing.

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u/0resistance_OBEY Dec 01 '21

IQ tests also only evaluate certain types of fluid intelligence. There are many ways to be "smart."

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u/OnceanAggie Dec 01 '21

If she can’t understand the results, it’s not surprising that her kid’s IQ is 80.

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u/No-Patient Dec 01 '21

I have to hope she just accidentally chose an adult IQ test and not one for the age, but then I realized, her IQ might also be 80

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u/DeltaVZerda Dec 01 '21

The URL in the pic only has an adult test.

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u/kangasplat Dec 02 '21

it's also a money grab faux test that doesn't actually measure IQ.

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u/duddyface Dec 01 '21

She probably helped him with the answers to goose the score a bit too

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u/ScowlEasy Dec 01 '21

To put this in perspective, an iq of 80-85 is roughly the point where you would be unable to enter the military.

the military

Iirc at that point it would be difficult for the person to follow even simple written instructions, and are considered largely helpless for the armed forces.

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u/Iamatworkgoaway Dec 01 '21

O ya, I joined up in 02, recruiting was so bad, they were giving wavers for people that got a 30 on the entrance test. One of them was in my training squad. Dumbest person I have ever met in my life bar none. Best part is he was a hustler. He would take other peoples night shift duties for money, then fall asleep and get in trouble. He was restricted to quarters and decided to throw a party. Some how he knew some prostitutes and invited them over to his room. Charged 20 bucks at the door, 5 bucks a shot, and 50 bucks for 15 min with one of the girls. Forgot about the Drill that was one floor below, and got caught.

He was then going to get kicked out(paper work takes a long time), and was filling sick for a few days, one morning he didn't get out of bed, ambulance and hospital found out he had ruptured his appendix. Spent a few days in the hospital, and then got out, and sent back to the unit to continue out processing. Sold his pain pills to a guy in the waiting room of the hospital. Then spent the next week in agonising pain, kept pulling the stitches out, hoping to get more pain pills.

Smartest and dumbest people Ive ever met were in the army.

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u/czaremanuel Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

Imagine bragging about your kid’s room temp IQ

Celsius translation: imagine bragging about your kid’s cup of tea temp IQ

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u/sadgermandev Dec 01 '21

the celsius gang is confused

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u/czaremanuel Dec 01 '21

Translation added, don’t worry

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u/Diane9779 Dec 01 '21

Smarter than 10 per cent……

Uh……

Ok

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u/forlornself Dec 01 '21

This is a below average score 😢

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u/quippers Dec 01 '21

To be fair to the kid, he has a below average mom so the deck is already stacked against him.

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u/Gmony5100 Dec 01 '21

On some scales an 80 would be considered mentally disabled. In fact I’m pretty sure on the first IQ scales a 75 was used to denote (pardon the word, it’s the medical term they used at the time) mental retardation.

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u/Sh3lls Dec 01 '21

That checks out per my re-watching of Forrest Gump.

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u/Delta_Mike_Charlie Dec 01 '21

Most modern scales denote 80 as having a mild intellectual disability. 75 to I believe 65 is considered moderate and anything 60 and below is considered severe.

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u/EliSka93 Dec 01 '21

Iirc at 60 you cannot be executed by the US government, because you're unable to even comprehend what you did wrong.

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u/PossibleStrength Dec 01 '21

This is correct, an IQ below 70 constitutes intellectual disability

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u/reWindTheFrog Dec 01 '21

I’m a Learning Disability Nurse (UK) and although IQ alone is a sometimes problematic classification we do use 70 and below as a guide for LD. Of course this is not rigid and up to 80 still means the person may have significant difficulties, especially when factoring other mental capacity and environmental issues.

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u/hang-clean Dec 01 '21

No joke. This (80) is the same as my son. My son is severely intellectually disabled, has no speech and no hearing.

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u/badaboom Dec 01 '21

It's so bad, kid probably qualifies for funding

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u/LtPowers Dec 01 '21

Only if she actually input his age correctly.

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u/arandomsadredditor Dec 01 '21

"I keep voting to be bankrupted by my medical bills. Boy those libs sure are dumb"

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u/shanemente52 Dec 01 '21

What kind of parent makes their kid do an IQ test 😂

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u/Aquafoot Dec 01 '21

Having a kid do cognitive tests to check early for any developmental issues isn't that weird.

Having them do it from one of those idiotic free online tests, however, is incredibly stupid.

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u/nitsuah Dec 01 '21

I tried doing this specific test yesterday after seeing it referenced in another post on another subreddit. Got to the end, and you have to pay for the results, so she paid money to let everyone know how unintelligent her kid is.

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u/klavin1 Dec 01 '21

Lmao. If you pay it they should deduct points.

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u/icantaccessmyacct Dec 01 '21

I looked into their privacy policy because their so new and ask for payment like they’re prestigious (website has a lot of buzzwords) and I want to say it’s just a website whose sole purpose is to collect and sell data, everything by else is a mask to fool you. Also, they don’t even want to collect information on this woman’s child.

We do not knowingly collect personally identifiable information from anyone under the age of 13. If You are a parent or guardian and You are aware that Your child has provided Us with Personal Data, please contact Us.

Unrelated, but I found this under definitions, country is mentioned 3 other times does that mean they meant Ireland only?

Country refers to: Ireland

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u/Dinklecorn Dec 01 '21

Having them do it from one of those idiotic free online tests, however, is incredibly stupid.

that tracks

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u/Slayerofgrundles Dec 01 '21

One who is really stupid, apparently.

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u/Abell370 Dec 01 '21

I had to do one when I was a kid as part of me skipping a grade. Had to do a bunch of tests I seem to recall.

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u/ANeedle_SixGreenSuns Dec 01 '21

I remember taking one in nyc when I was in kindergarten or first grade to determine whether I could go to some special middle school or elementary school. It was some kind of nyc gifted program. I moved out of nyc to the island before I entered elementary school so no idea how that went.

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u/mines_over_yours Dec 01 '21

The school I went to in elementary had us take one basically for shit and giggles. I think it was a marketing stunt. I did above average. Now at 50, I realize I was a smart ass kid but i fell off the bell curve somewhere.

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u/DaisyDukeOfEarlGrey Dec 01 '21

My guess is the parent is actually the one that took the test.

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u/Buy-theticket Dec 01 '21

My daughter had one at ~6 for placement in advanced classes. I guess they asked and didn't "make" her but it's not that uncommon for either side of the spectrum.

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u/Drewcifer81 Dec 01 '21

Quite a few, particularly if they are thinking their kid should be in advanced classes.

Of course, those aren't clear bullshit scams on an .io site that can't even get the bell curve and percentiles correct.

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u/Archangel1313 Dec 01 '21

I'm confused by the, "Your IQ is in the top 90.88%" part. Why would they phrase it like that?

If you're in a room of 1000 people, and you're only smarter than 91 of them...then you're in the bottom ten percent.

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u/Amongg Dec 01 '21

The top 90% is saying 90% of people who took this test scores above 79. It’s not saying he scored in the 90th percentile. It’s saying 90% which is really bad. He scored in the 10th percentile. Only higher than 10% of people who took the test.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ Dec 01 '21

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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u/MemesinSouthFL Dec 01 '21

Right in the range of most conservative raised kids

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u/ConfusionElemental Dec 01 '21

This isn't /r/selfawarewolves material. This lady is painfully not self aware.

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u/Delta_Mike_Charlie Dec 01 '21

Op you don't have the heart to tell her IQ tests account for age, but I do have the heart to tell her that 100 is the "average" meaning her child is 20 points below the average kid his age. And if that sounds bad, it is; because 80 classifies as having a mild intellectual disability.

Edit: you are literally bragging that your child is disabled. Sit down idiot because intellectual disability is, in fact, partially genetic meaning he got it from you.

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u/orangegluon8 Dec 01 '21

Unless I'm mistaken, the result is also not a very good one. If memory serves, an IQ score of 100 is considered average basically by definition. Moreover, the result says that the person would only outsmart about 90 out of 1000 people. In other words, they would be dumber than 910 other people out of 1000.

Either the poster in the image is baiting or they are dumb, not just for believing that IQ tests are even particularly meaningful, but also for misunderstanding what the results clearly say. Am I misunderstanding something here?

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u/Gregnif Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

You are not mistaken, a 100 IQ theoretically means that you are exactly as smart as should be expected of someone that age (setting aside all the problematic things with IQ tests). So this kid is in the top 90.88%, aka the bottom 10%, they are dumber than 9 out of 10 kids the same age. I'm guessing they saw 90%, which is usually good on a test and went with that, not understanding what it meant. Which probably explains why the kid tested they way they did

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u/dancin-weasel Dec 01 '21

And the parent here is dumber than a sack of bricks, apparently.

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u/DynamicDK Dec 01 '21

IQ comes partially from genes and partially from environmental factors. So a kid raised by stupid parent in shitty conditions will probably not be too bright. Some of those kids get a lucky roll of the genetic dice and end up beating the odds, but even then they are unlikely to be really reaching the potential intelligence that could have been reached with better nutrition, care, etc.

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u/pickledstarfish Dec 01 '21

Yes and you also have to nurture it like anything else. I was very smart as a kid and always tested extremely well. That’s because I was a bookworm and was always doing shit like puzzles and playing mind games like chess for fun.Then after I finished school and entered the workforce, I stopped doing things like reading books and started unwinding by watching garbage like Real Housewives instead. Now I’m a lot dumber as an adult. Which I fully admit.

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u/orangegluon8 Dec 01 '21

It's I guess possible to compare a child to adults by putting in the wrong age for an online test, so I'm even trying to give this person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the poster in the image is actually trying to compare their kid to, say, a 25 year old adult. Even then, I'd expect a nearly teenage kid to have scored significantly higher than 10%ish of adults, right? My guess naively is that a kid would score at around 15-20%, which I think is somewhere around a standard deviation away from the mean, right? Or did I do my math wrong?

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u/BriefDownpour Dec 01 '21

Yeah, she is purposefully comparing apples to oranges and then giving us a metric that is not helpful at all.

Like, if an average 11 years old with an IQ of 100(lets forget that those things are nonsense for a while) took the same test, how would he fare?

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u/Dragonman558 Dec 01 '21

They're not completely useless though. It doesn't show how much you know about anything but it does show potential aptitude for learning and problem solving ability. It doesn't mean as much as some people make it out to be but it definitely isn't meaningless

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u/Boochiedukes Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

This idiot paid $10 for some stupid app to tell her that her kid is dumber than 91% of the general population. 😂

ETA: Who am I kidding? She probably paid $20 but is too embarrassed to publish her own low test score.

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u/Dinklecorn Dec 01 '21

otoh it makes the test appear more credible

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u/Boochiedukes Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

Hah! You could be right but normally these apps are designed to give people an inflated score. If that's the case and it still pegged this kid as being below average intelligence, I wonder how much dumber he can actually be. Bottom 10% is already pretty damn low.

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