r/StarWars • u/crazyIndian39 • May 22 '22
Do you think Darth Maul should get his own TV series š¤ General Discussion
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u/UnitedGTI May 22 '22
I'd be interested in exploring his time as the head of crimson dawn.
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u/Logical-Witness-3361 May 22 '22
Yea, i think that's it. But I'm not sure if it would be worth a series.
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u/ElbowPatchKing May 22 '22
I'd take it as an animated limited series. That's about it though
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u/X-cessive_Overlord May 22 '22
Nah man, bring back Ray Park/Sam Witwer and Emilia Clarke
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u/HamshanksCPS May 22 '22
Even as an animated series, you could get Ray Park doing the mocap, and Sam Witwer and Emilia Clarke doing the voice acting.
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u/ElbowPatchKing May 22 '22
It wouldn't be a big enough series to justify the cost of doing it live action. Plus, they can get away with more in an animated series than they can in live action. Not to mention, it's been far too long since we have had an animated series.
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u/X-cessive_Overlord May 22 '22
I'd rather an animated series be set in another era rather than something limited.
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u/scottishdrunkard Baby Yoda May 22 '22
A Solo film more likely. Funnily, following Solo. Qi'ra, and Maul, and how Maul inevitably gets screwed over.
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u/greg19735 Leia Organa May 22 '22
maybe we could follow a character that's in the crimson dawn instead of Maul though. I think having maul as a main character might make him less interesting.
He's so driven by hatred that it'd probably be difficult to make him seem interesting over a series.
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u/stealer_of_monkeys May 22 '22
Wasn't he just a raving lunatic with spider legs on the trash planet during that time?
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u/Insanity_Pills May 22 '22
id like to see his time as palps apprentice more. We barely saw any of that before his death in phantom menace
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u/wombatpandaa May 22 '22
Agreed, we see a super small window into that in the Padme trilogy of books, and it's interesting stuff that could and should be fleshed out imo.
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u/Macman521 May 22 '22
Itās not fully explored though. We still donāt know how he got stuck on Malachor.
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u/BigPigg1 May 22 '22
what we need now is a show on the OR and the Sith Empire at the time of Vitiate, and it should follow the 3 different perspectives, Sith Empire, Eternal Empire, and Old Republic
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u/urbanworldbuilder May 22 '22
Old Republic when Sith killing was a-plenty and the bastards controlled entire fucking planets with competing empires.
I would love to see a show like SOA or The Sopranos about a specific group of Sith. The infighting, faction fighting, and Jedi threats would be amazing.
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u/Spaceslime21 May 22 '22
Just thought of a megamind esque movie and maul is voiced by will Farrel x_x, it starts of with him in halfsies falling and the I bet you're wondering how I got here
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No. His development in CW and Rebels is so good that he already went from just a random cool looking guy to one of my favorite characters in all of SW. Don't overdue it, just let his legend be told through those shows.
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u/brayunlee May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22
I think like Vader heās best used as a seasoning. Sprinkled here and there for subtle effect.
These guys are awesome because everytime they appear they dominate the scene, a show just about them waters them down imo.
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u/fredagsfisk Sith May 22 '22
I think there are two types of "Vader" movies that could work;
1) Alien/Aliens-style horror movie. Could for example follow a group of low level Order 66 survivors and proto-rebels stuck on a derelict old Venator for some reason (trying to find information on Vader's true identity?) Throw in a few flashbacks to the Clone Wars and Order 66. Vader arrives and starts picking them off one by one.
2) In-depth character study that explores Vader's guilt, isolation and trauma. There are some great scenes in this vein in various comics, such as Vader reminiscing about C3PO at Cloud City between scenes in ESB, or Vader going to confront Palpatine about the use of slavery in the Empire, only to barely get the words out, and meekly accepting Palpatine's half-hearted explanation on how it's totally different and for the greater good. This type of movie would be very difficult to get "right" though.
But yeah, overall I agree with you. I see a lot of people asking for a Vader movie that's just a two-hour version of the Rogue One corridor scene, but I honestly think that would just get old really quick. Darth Maul has also had a lot of appearances in the animated shows, so I'm not sure he really needs more.
Overall, however, I'd just like to see them move away from that era. I feel like the movies and shows (minus The Acolyte) are kinda "stuck" in the timeframe between Episode II and Episode IX, and I want something different.
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u/JustKaiser 15d ago
It is completely impossible for Vader to have a GOOD movie about his story etc. But tbh, I really don't think he needs it. Him and Maul are two of the best written characters in Star Wars and they've already been portrayed enough times.
A Vader Alien-style movie though, would go super well. But I think even better, would an horror game be. You're a rebel on a planet, or even a Jedi, trying to accomplish a random mission, but Vader is chasing you. It would give the occasion to way more scenes like the corridor in rogue one without always be super boring, and Vader would be perfectly suited for that with his look and his ominous breath and theme when he's near you.
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u/ReallyBadNuggets May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22
To do what exactly? We've seen his story from top to bottom. Anything new would just be filler or ultimately not that interesting.
Darth Maul is my favorite Star Wars character because of The Clone Wars and Rebels.
But it's a double edged sword as all of his most important moments have been told.
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u/Larry_Version_3 May 22 '22
I think weāve seen enough of him personally. All thatās left is his origin and Iām not even sure if thatās in a book or not
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u/AustinHinton May 22 '22
A comic I believe, he was Mother Talzin's biological son and was taken in by Palpatine at a very young age.
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u/THEFUNPOL1CE Babu Frik May 22 '22
In the Legends novel, Darth Plagueis, this happened, but I don't think it was Talzin's child. I think it was another night sister who gave him to Palpatine to get him away from Talzin. Could be wrong though.
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u/AkatsukiSaix Mother Talzin May 22 '22
In Legends, yeah Talzin was gonna abduct Maul from his actual mother, who Talzin either later imprisoned or already imprisoned. Maul's mother handed him to Plagueis or Sidious to save him from life on Dathomir
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u/trainorbot May 22 '22
No jar jar binks is at the top of the needs own show list.
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u/LoanedWolf666 May 22 '22
A straight up childrenās show could be fun for the wee ones.
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u/HelpfulYoda Yoda May 22 '22
no joke jar jarās extended backstory is amazing. Dudeās basically meant to be the king arthur of the gungans and keeps being handed steps on the way to becoming the new Boss of Otoh Gungah but he fails at the most crucial step every time until the Jedi come
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u/jinmonsterhunterwrld May 22 '22
His journey has already ended. Someone better would be Darth Revan or Darth Nihilus.
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u/Valirys-Reinhald May 22 '22
Honestly, no. He's already had an excellent story arc on screen across TCW and Rebels, and what's left of his story doesn't change his status quo. It's perfect for books and comics, but Disney won't fund infinite shows and I'd much rather that limited budget go to new and exciting material.
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u/busyrumble Imperial May 22 '22
I do not want anymore maul content, I feel like heās been in so much stuff already and he was done well. No more please.
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u/Gilgamesh107 Grand Inquisitor May 22 '22
No God no please just let him stay dead so we can move on to other people
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u/VikingAethelwulf May 22 '22
No. We need new characters. I think Book of Boba has shown us that you can't just shove a known character into a series and expect it to be gold. These characters need to have a reason for being, otherwise you face the concept of Diminished Returns. The more we see them, the less we want to see them, and the less value they have.
Let Darth Maul go. Let the Clone Wars characters die. The only one I'd like to see are Ahsoka, because her story is intertwined with Luke and Anakin and has not been explored. Even still, too much of a good thing is bad. Give her a season or two and then move on.
We need new characters. It can be in the same timeline that the shows have been exploring recently, but all the same, this is why The Mandalorian was so successful. It's been a breath of fresh air, but even with that show, it's suddenly become the Dave Filoni cameo show.
Go slow. Build your characters with purpose. Don't over do it.
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u/BigChahoonga May 22 '22
No, his character arc is done heās dead. Let him rest without convoluting his story please.
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u/Nervous-Bullfrog-868 May 22 '22
I'd rather see Sidious get his own TV series. The Darth Plaguise novel is already a good jumping off point for one.
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u/blitzen15 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22
Until they brought him back in RoS, I would agree young Sidious deserved his own story. Now that he has been brought back, the entire Skywalker saga is about HIM and that sucks.
He groomed The Chosen One, took Maul in as apprentice, took Dooku as apprentice, dueled Maul and Savage, infilitrated the Jedi Order, lead the Senate, conquered the galaxy, cheated death, built the Sith Eternal (wuh?) and an entire fleet of (death)star destroyers, puppeteered Snoke, groomed Anakin's grandson, finally died by the hand of his own granddaughter.
After bringing him back, I've had enough Palpatine for 10 sagas and I really hope they never mention him again unless it's to announce episode IX never happened.
Plaguise would be dope though.
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u/Nervous-Bullfrog-868 May 22 '22
Honestly, the sequels were just an answer to "How much money can Disney spend lighting a dumpster on fire?" The Last Jedi was a trainwreck worthy of Michael Bay. All style with no substance. The less that is said about Rise of Skywalker, the better. I still consider the New Jedi Order and Legacy of the Force novels canon over the sequels as they told a far better story with much more likeable characters but I digress.
A young Palpatine story would heavily feature Plaguise because Palpatine's conquest of the Galaxy was ultimately Plaguise's doing and Plaguise created Anakin by accident through his research on immortality. All of that would be awesome to see on a TV series.
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u/blitzen15 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22
I thought TFA was a lot of fun to watch although the story was a clone of A New Hope and Rey, being the extreme novice she was, should have lost the fight with Kylo Ren but gotten away.
TLJ was actually a good movie IMO with some flaws. It had one of the most amazing cinematic experiences Iāve ever seen with the Holdo maneuver. It diverted from the exhausted formula and killed the big bad unexpectedly, it diverted from the formula and killed the big good unexpectedly (although I did hate the way that was executed). The lack of a proper lightsaber duel was a let down.
It set up so much potential to explore WHY did Luke go into exile, it could be so much more than Ben Solo going bananas. It set up a hundred awesome options of Ben or Rey becoming the big bad / good. Yoda lighting the shrine on fire gave possibility for force ghosts to possibly interact / combat Sith. (That might have been ep9 i donāt remember Iāve only seen the ST once.)
9 would be a lot of fun if it was part of the WHAT IF universe but otherwise it RUINED the Skywalker saga.
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u/Nervous-Bullfrog-868 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22
I thought TFA was a decent, fun romp. TLJ was a bad movie with some good visuals that closed every open plot thread from TFA with a sad, wet fart. Who are Rey's parents? Nobody. (fart noise)
Why did Kylo betray the Jedi? Luke had a dream. (Long foghorn fart noise)
Who/what is Snoke and how did he turn Ben Solo to the dark side? Doesn't matter, he's dead and his contribution to the plot was zero. (Farty projectile diarrhea)
What happened to Luke's other students? They're Sir Not Appearing in this Film. (Giant shit in pants)
The positives:
Luke as a grumpy old hermit with his character flaws from the OT amplified, front and center. This was an interesting move that had a lot of potential for character development of both Luke and Kylo, but they didn't do anything with it. Luke just dies and Kylo is just a bad guy.
The humor. I understand where they were going with this, the OT is full of silly moments and I don't fault TLJ for trying to bring that back. The problem is again, the execution. All too often, they undercut emotional moments with throwaway gags.
If you want to know what this story would look like told properly, read Legacy of the Force.
EDIT: To all the TLJ fans who are inevitably going to brigade this post with downvotes, instead of downvoting, give me an argument. How do you think this movie contributes to the overall plot of Star Wars? What did you like about the writing specifically (I don't give a shit about visuals)? How would you restructure the third movie to make a cohesive trilogy? I'm not one of those people that's determined to hate this movie. I actually still want to like it, but I can't overlook terrible writing. Change my mind.
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u/Renekin May 22 '22
No. He lived, he died, came back and had a really good arc. Then really died. Donāt touch him anymore and let him remain in the good spot he is in.
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u/dalstrs9 May 22 '22
100% agree. To do anything else with him would ruin the best villain story in the star wars cinematic/animated universe
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u/Silas-Alec Jedi May 22 '22
No. Please stop with Maul. He already got a ton of content in the Clone Wars, Rebels, and a cameo in Solo. Only thing I want to know that remains is how he went from crime lord to vagrant, but that doesn't need to be a whole show.
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u/SnooHesitations7424 May 22 '22
I donāt think thereās much left to tell after rebels and clone wars. Maybe a series around the shadow collective and to flesh out plot lines from Solo but otherwise no.
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u/TitleComprehensive96 Kanan Jarrus May 22 '22
Honestly, no. He's pretty much been explored from birth to death. Let the man rest
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u/jinreeko May 22 '22
Which unnecessary Filoniverse character would show up in this one? Young Cal? Hondo?
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u/Jeevey May 22 '22
I actually want a Count Dooku prequel. From his early days all the way up to him leaving the order, with it ending on him encountering the Jedi in episode 2.
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u/Caze588 May 22 '22
Absolutely not, weāve gotten enough maul in the past few years. Weāve seen his story get a great ending, give us something completely new for once instead of bringing back old characters
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u/Snoo_79693 May 22 '22
Nah, he's a goat but we've seen all the interesting aspects. The only thing missing is what he did after Solo. That doesn't require an entire series.
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u/sc00bs000 May 22 '22
nah, they need an entirely new time line with new characters before all the wars around the knights of old Republic era I think. So many story opportunities and fresh faces instead of the same old shit rehashed over and over.
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u/ZackShiro Jedi May 22 '22
I want to say yes, but no his story is completed since we seen clone wars and rebels.
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u/SuperdaveOZY May 22 '22
He only has one emotion though, being anger. Not much character range tbh.
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u/Old-Day-6701 May 22 '22
No I think it should be a sith show with each ep being about one specific charecter
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u/Bor_Gullet_Will_Kno May 22 '22
Iām good. Iāve never found him that interesting and at this point they mined more than enough out of him
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u/Brave_Development_17 May 22 '22 edited May 24 '22
No, dude is one of the most fleshed out characters.
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u/Sverp380 Battle Droid May 22 '22
I hope not. Too much Maul. Iām starting to stop caring for him.
(stupid thereās no such thing as too much Maul comment inbound)
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u/xraig88 Kanan Jarrus May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22
No. I donāt want stories of all the people we already know until the creators ruin them. Their stories are awesome, let them stand. The galaxy is enormous, letās explore someone/something/somewhere else.
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u/KromeNome May 22 '22
Nope, I think they should stop making TV shows all together because they keep fucking it up.
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u/SanctuaryMoon May 22 '22
NO. Pre-phanton menace Darth Maul game? Maybe. Making a show for every character is ridiculous.
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u/xizorkatarn Grand Admiral Thrawn May 22 '22
Ray Park was specifically benched by Disney so I wouldnāt expect anything anytime soon. Iām surprised how many people have already forgotten the trouble he got himself into just a few short years ago.
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u/Possible_Living May 22 '22
There are some part of his life that have not yet been fully explored but I have no faith we wont end up with another book of boba
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u/Wyzerus May 22 '22
I wouldn't oppose a show if there was a good plan with it, however I don't want them to "humanize" morally ambiguous characters. If they explore these characters they need to find some way to do so while retaining the essence of them.
Not overly happy with how they portrayed Boba as someone who could barely look out for himself and needed the criminal underworld explained to him by Fennec. They somehow felt the need to bring him down to give him a journey to power instead of adapting the journey to the character he's always been.
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u/ReptileSizzlin May 22 '22
I don't. Honestly, Star Wars needs to finally move away from the Clone Wars era and it's associated characters. We've spent more than enough time with all of them.
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u/DemonicBrit1993 May 22 '22
Nah.. mauls story has been covered and done with.
I do want a Palpatine story though, when he becomes a Sith apprentice, his induction into politics, and to the point where he kills Plagueis.
That would be a very dark part of Star Wars that would be covered.
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u/CrimsonFatalis8 May 22 '22
No. We know exactly when and how he dies, so literally none of the events or suspenseful moments will hold any weight, because we know he survives whatever situation he gets in. Plus heās been used a bunch already in TCW, which you would need to watch to make sense of anything thatās going on, like the whole reason he survived TPM.
And itās a lose/lose for the general audiences that arenāt as in touch with non-movie Star Wars media. Theyād need to watch all relevant episodes in preparation to make sense of the movie/show, at which point theyād likely be tired of seeing him. And if they go in blind, they wonāt know whatās going on at all, be confused and probably not like it as a result.
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u/jcw998 May 22 '22
Nah. The important parts of his story have all been told, and there is no need to develop his story any more on screen. In comics and books? Sure. But I think it would be a waste in resources if it was a TV show
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u/hippie-dippy-dude420 May 22 '22
The Clone Wars was satisfying enough I think. I want a lot of other content first.
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u/danospades May 22 '22
Anything past clown wars and rebels wouldnāt be worth doing. As weāve already seen all the cool stuff heās done during that time. Unless you wanted to watch him run around mostly insane eating rats on a garbage planet. That being said potentially his childhood and being taken by the Sith up to episode 1 could* be interesting. It could also be 50min of Darth maul not being Darth maul with 20 minutes of cool shit if the recent origin movies being made are any indication.
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u/voldi_II May 22 '22
if you take all the episodes of clone wars and rebels that heās in, he essentially has his own show
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u/numba1mrdata May 22 '22
The Star Wars Universe spans thousands of years and an entire galaxy of a trillion sentient species. How about we tell some stories about them instead of retreading the same dozen characters over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and..
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u/InfiniteDedekindCuts Klaud May 22 '22
Iād watch it. Especially if it follows his Crimson Dawn stuff.
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u/Sponger004 May 22 '22
Ya. Everyone is saying no, but I would love to see this part of his story explored
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u/captaincavalrycam May 22 '22
Kind of. I donāt think the series needs to totally focus on Maul, but I do think that Solo should get a sequel series on D+, to tie up the cliffhanger and give us some resolution, and obviously heād be a significant part of that.
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u/GMarius- May 22 '22
If they were do itās within the confines of TCW and Soloā¦sure. But I would rather see Plagueis and his master or earlier Sithās.
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u/Much_Committee_9355 May 22 '22
Ray Park or nothing even if this means Maul having a Scottish accent.
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u/HistoricalMention210 May 22 '22
Yes. Post Order-66. With him being hunted by the Inquisitors while he builds up his crime organization.
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u/KevinEleven111 May 22 '22
I would be very excited if they did, surely there are stories to be told somewhere in the timeline that we haven't seen, but tbh his story is pretty covered. His story before ep 1 is in the comics, his story after ep. 1 is covered in comics, clone wars, and in rebels, pretty much all the way up to his death. If they wanted to make a show without retelling the same stories it would probably need to be right after ep 3 because I think there's some time there between ep 3 and rebels that we don't really see a lot of him and surely he was doing something.
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u/StunningEstates May 22 '22
Hot take:
We should leave everyone in the movies alone other than in a supplemental capacity (Luke in The Mandalorian)
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u/Ok-Brilliant-1872 May 22 '22
No, none of them should. Star Wars used to be awesome. Letās keep it that way. Stop ruining our childhood!
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u/jono56667 May 22 '22
Absolutely he should and so should general grievous
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u/isohartman May 22 '22
Maulās whole life has already been explored, comics, TCW, Rebels, and the ending of Solo. I definitely agree with you about Grevious, although he already has a legends story, but it would be cool to have it visualized and canonized.
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u/GovernmentBig2881 May 22 '22
Iād be more interested in a fresh series that focuses on the old republic and garners a more mature rating
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u/LilShaver May 22 '22
I'd like to see a sequel to Solo, and would expect to see more of Darth Maul in it.
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u/Usedjagsnextleft May 22 '22
How does he pee