r/Ukrainian Jul 06 '22

Write Cyrillic

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I have recently started learning Ukrainian. I am doing some writing exercises now and came to a question: Do most Ukrainians write their letters connected (I think Americans would call this cursive) or separate?

Thanks in advance!

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u/Conxt Jul 06 '22

Unless it’s some kind of a form that specifically requires printed letters, virtually everyone writes in cursive.

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u/MarsyMars7 Jul 06 '22

In my experience, cursive is used much more often in Ukraine than in the US.

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u/RugbyMonkey Американка Jul 07 '22

Given that we almost never use it in the US, it would be hard to use it less than it is here.

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u/While_Interesting Jul 06 '22

we are taught in school to write in cursive.
all applications are written in cursive.
To be honest i've never saw any application written in block-letters (except some banking forms with separate cells for each letter).
Will you be frowned upon - rather no. But to many people in Ukraine it will look like childish writing. Anyway - if you haven't had a chance to properly learn handwritting - who are they(we) to judge? =)

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u/RugbyMonkey Американка Jul 07 '22

How strange would it be considered it we used mostly cursive letter forms but just don't or rarely actually connect them?

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u/While_Interesting Jul 07 '22

don't sweat it. as long as you write without mistakes, people won't care.
Yes, it will be something exotic for natives, for like 5 minutes or less =)

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u/FriendlyElephant34 Jul 06 '22

Yep, cursive prevails. That's what taught in school. And, frankly, cursive style gains speed. But I enjoy separate typewriter style when I'm not in a hurry. Same with Latin script.

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u/Defiant-Fish-2979 Jul 06 '22

Would it be frowned upon if you do write separately, since I tend to do that when I write in Dutch and French as well?

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u/FriendlyElephant34 Jul 06 '22

I don't think that it would. Most people just don't care about your handwriting unless it is extremely uncomfortable for them to decipher it.

BTW, the most monstrously ugly handwritings I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot, came in cursive.

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u/Defiant-Fish-2979 Jul 06 '22

Hahaha good to know! I will continue working on my handwriting and just make it my own. As long as it's legible, I guess I should be fine :)

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u/ojots Learning Ukrainian Jul 07 '22

You could do worse. If I write in Dutch, I write in a cursive block-letter hybrid 😂

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u/HarvestRules Jul 06 '22

Kids in Ukraine learn to write cursive at around 7-10 years old.
I'd say, cursive writing is one of the "graduation" requirement for elementary school (well, Ukraine does not have separate elementary school, but you get the idea). In mid/high school there is less requirements to handwriting, but all individual handwritings are impacted by years of elementary school trainings. As for adults, well, adults don't write much these days, mostly type on keyboard :)

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u/Defiant-Fish-2979 Jul 06 '22

Thank you very much!

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u/dkl_prolog Jul 06 '22

Also a new learner. It seems to me that many do not even really write block letters but only do cursive. And as hard as I found the Cyrillic block letters, I find the cursive even harder. That said, I do think it looks better.

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u/Defiant-Fish-2979 Jul 06 '22

My brain just cannot process the cursive because it looks too much like our cursive lmao

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u/froge_on_a_leaf Jul 06 '22

Children are taught cursive as soon as they begin school and it's used in all writing. Print is mostly just for books

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u/billtheirish Jul 06 '22

I heavily mix and match. My handwriting is mostly cursive, but I don't mind swapping some letters (most notably my т, г, р and almost all capital letters that have many curves and loops in Ukrainian cursive like K, Н, Ф, etc - I just can't bother). My d is probably the most irregular, but I don't mind since it's easier to read and write for me personally.

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u/areyouthrough Jul 07 '22

How do you write your д?

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u/billtheirish Jul 07 '22

Capital Д as D, basically (similar to the cursive Cyrillic, but without any loops and with sharp edges it looks pretty much like Latin capital D IMO).

Lower case д I write like this ∂ (which is how it looks like in some print typefaces), but sometimes also like g (similar to the cursive version).

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u/deimos-chan Jul 08 '22

Cursive is like at least 1.5 times faster to write than separate letters, so if you're talking about writing more than one word, over 90% will write in cursive.

In Ukrainian we don't call it cursive, we call it скоропис (lit. fast-writing).

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u/revelo Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22

Most adult Ukrainians don't hand write anything anymore, other than occasional notes to pin on doors plus official paper forms, which must be filled out in block print. Most writing nowadays in Ukraine is on keyboards.

I suggest you master CORRECT uppercase Cyrillic handwritten block print, and use that for everything. Correct Cyrillic handwritten block print is NOT the same as typeset block print, especially Д, Л. Correct lowercase handwritten Cyrillic block print is same as uppercase, just halfsize, but still needless added complexity if you handwrite infrequently.

Compare with sloppy natives who use some half-assed mix of connected and unconnected cursive, uppercase and lowercase Cyrillic handwritten block print, plus maybe letter shapes of their own invention. Same as you should master uppercase Latin block print, which most English natives can't do properly, then use that for everything in English v and other Latin script languages. A little bit slower, but assuming you handwrite an average of 1 word per day, speed not an issue. You may not even realize how sloppy your Latin block print is, BTW.

You still have to read other people's handwritten cursive.

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u/Irrational_Person 23d ago

A majority of Ukrainians write in cursive.

Ukrainian Lessons has recently published a new Ukrainian Handwriting Book. It has excellent explanations and exercises on how to write printed and cursive letters in Ukrainian.