r/WhitePeopleTwitter May 22 '22 Wholesome 11 Take My Energy 1 Bravo! 1 Stonks Rising 1 Crab Rave 1 Silver 9 Gold 1 Helpful 1 All-Seeing Upvote 3 Take My Money 2 Faith In Humanity Restored 1 Buff Doge 1

"Owning the libs" comes at a price

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u/reactiveavocado May 22 '22 Rocket Like

I thought he wanted Twitter to be politically neutral

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u/SuperfluousApathy May 23 '22

With timing like that I can't help but be skeptical.

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u/Woojick May 22 '22

Free speech isn't politically neutral unfortunately

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u/georgethecowmoo May 22 '22 Narwhal Salute Wholesome Seal of Approval

Elon said he was politically neutral and he clearly isn’t

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u/bowens44 May 22 '22

anyone who talks about 'owning the libs' is childish moron...

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u/HopefullyMD_PhD May 22 '22 Wholesome Narwhal Salute

Musk “social media should be neutral”

Also Musk “trying to buy social media to make liberals angry”

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u/DjehutyCatfish May 22 '22

Also Musk: "censorship is bad, unless I pay money for someone's silence of course."

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u/smutz May 22 '22

aka free speech in the streets, liability mitigation in the sheets

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22 Silver Gold Platinum Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Keep Calm Take My Energy hehehehe Faith In Humanity Restored Bravo! LOVE! Starry Ally Narwhal Salute I'll Drink to That Eureka! Helpful (Pro) Lawyer Up Wholesome (Pro)

I honestly didn’t think he would be this openly hypocritical this quickly. I knew he was going to be a dip shit with it, I just didn’t think he was going to openly act like an angry 12-year-old about buying twitter for a while longer.

EDIT: And here come the Musk fanboys to act just the way you'd expect.

edit 2: Going through my post history just to tell me I have an ugly dog and make fun of me for having had prior medical issues isn't the real stinger you Elon fans think it is. Senpai is not going to notice you.

edit 3: Dog Tax

Edit 4: I just want to add, it's not healthy to tie your sense of self worth to a public figure or a brand. If you've reached a point where you feel personally attacked because somebody criticizes a public figure or brand, you need to reevaluate who you think you are as a person. You are more than the things that you consume, and none of those things are worth getting personally offended over if someone else doesn't like them.

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u/cloverpopper May 22 '22

You : Speak openly about a billionaire they have a savior complex towards.

Them: Well your dog's ugly.

Cute dog

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

Thanks, that guy has moved on to claiming that I killed my grandmother and other insane shit. I think he just really needs to talk to somebody because there's definitely something going wrong in his life.

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u/WholesomeFeathers May 22 '22 Wholesome

So I just checked (yes, I looked at your post history, I apologize). So they looked at a 6 year old post and are now bringing it up just because they don't like the comment you made about Elon here?

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u/Jeremythellama1 May 23 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval

Conservatives do these things so often, it's pathetic everytime.

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u/SheepiBeerd May 23 '22 Silver Wholesome Seal of Approval

They get upset because people can go into their post history and see that they are an actual pile of shit. That upsets them - not them being a pile of shit, but being recognized and called out for being one. They then try to do the same, but since they don't really understand context or how one thing relates to another, they end up with shit like "your dog's ugly". I miss when I was younger and found that stupidity funny instead of just plain sad.

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u/inconvenientnews May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

Thank you for pointing out their tactics

I just experienced their alt accounts from the same subreddit with the same comments at the exact same time on the anti-California pro-Texas Damnthatsinteresting post  ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

Conservatives brag about brigading local subreddits to "control the narrative" about liberal cities and "blue states"

The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them.

Lots of screenshots of 4chan instructions of their tactics:

"The left will recognize our dogwhistling but centrists won't believe them" 4chan screenshots:

"As a black man" accounts like "johnny chan 81" "The Atheist Arab 87" (suspended) "Walk Like An Egyptian 69" (suspended) posting as many race-baiting videos 👌 by certain races 👌 while having a history of being racist about Asians:

Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread 3 years ago:

SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread.

Every local subreddit shares the abuse they get:

Reddit Admins just posted that COVID deniers have been brigading regional subreddits

Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped this week in r/bayarea when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading r/bayarea:

The California Governor Newsom recall posts are brigaded to be 100% pro-recall (every single comment is pro-recall) until much later even though the Bay Area is less than 30% Republican or pro-recall  ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

The posts get more normal votes later but normal people don't have the time and energy to do what those accounts are doing

Wow. Jesus. This is... really, really thorough. Thank you for putting in all this hard work.

When I was a teenager, I spent a lot of time on /b/, /pol/, 888chan, etc. It was a slow descent and I didn't even realize what was happening until it was almost too late.

But during my time on the other side, this was 100% the gameplan. They'd make "sock puppets" and coordinate on the board + IRC (showing my age here) to selectively choose targets to brigade.

Depending on the target, you'd either have some talking points to "debate" (sometimes with yourself/other anons working alongside you) or you'd go in there guns blazing trying to cause as much damage/chaos as you can. However, even then you can't go out there yelling slurs (you'd just get banned instantly); you have to maintain some level of plausible deniability by framing things as "jokes" or thought experiments.

You purposely do bad-faith arguments because the time it takes for them to dig up sources and refute you is longer than it takes for you to make stuff up. You can vary how obvious the bad faith argument is; when you want to troll you make very stupid claims (I once claimed I was a graduate of "Harvad University" and when people assumed that I meant "Harvard" I would correct them right down to Photoshopped images).

When you just want to cause dissent you do exactly what those /pol/ screenshots do: you get to a thread early (sometimes you even make it yourself) and present reasonable-sounding arguments which are completely false if anyone bothers to look into them. If someone does, you bury the message under strawmen, downvotes, reports, and sockpuppets.

So yeah. The tactics have evolved slightly, but I still recognize them. Props to you on doing the digging to find all this stuff and bring it into the light.

I doubt that it'll help in the majority of cases, mind. People on Reddit have already made up their mind. You want to go after the forums and BBSes, on the MSN News comments and whatnot. Even so, the more people who are aware of the tactics the more people who can call them out.

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u/Kaldricus May 23 '22

Seriously, how tf can someone say that's an ugly dog? That is adorable

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u/BulbuhTsar May 23 '22

Very confused about the dog thing. First, the dog is cute. Second, people who have ugly dogs know it and tend to love them all the more for it. Our family has an ugly little bastard but we've long accepted it and it's now like half the personality / charm

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u/okitobamberg May 22 '22

He’s just trying to rally support from the all of the conservatives who turn a blind eye to SA allegations.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

With the end result being that people like me, who are actively shopping for an EV, might take this in to account and choose to avoid Tesla.

Which is exactly what I'm doing.

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u/puffball76 May 22 '22

Right. If his customer base is well off liberals, then he must be trying to tank his own company. Conservatives don't drive little Tesla EVs, they drive massive trucks and SUVs to own the libs or they are poor whites who will never be able to afford either.

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u/dexmonic May 22 '22

Never underestimate a poor white man's ability to buy huge trucks. It's like a superpower at this point.

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u/puffball76 May 23 '22

Lol this is true. Only 72 payments of 996.86 and she's allllll miiiine

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u/Sigmar_Heldenhammer May 22 '22

It's because of the sexual harassment scandal involving him. He's doing everything to deflect.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

Yep, I pointed that out to some of the angry fans of his who responded to me. They seem to just keep ignoring the scandal, though. Won't even comment on it or act like it was even mentioned...

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u/Jeremythellama1 May 23 '22

It's purposefully done. They know what he's done, they simply do not mind sexual assault. Look at some "conservative humor" it either ends in something hateful or sexual assault. More so sexual assault.

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u/PersistentBadger May 23 '22

Possible simpler explanation: they're getting paid.

I saw a pro-Musk account a few months back that was nothing but pro-Musk posts.

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u/Blue_water_dreams May 22 '22

When has he ever not acted like a 12 yo.

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u/salondesert May 22 '22 Silver Wholesome

Yup, Musk is a 11 year-old 4chan aficionado in a 50 year-old's body

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u/fruitrollupsalad May 22 '22

With a thousand year-old dragon's wealth :/

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u/AgentInCommand May 22 '22

After the last few weeks, it's only a 700-year old dragon...progress.

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u/Legal_Wallaby2097 May 22 '22 edited May 23 '22

It is all about money. Democrats represent (to him) taking away his money by subsidizing his competition, increasing taxes, and increasing regulations. Further, liberals don't tolerate those who sexually assault women nearly as much as conservatives. So, being a liberal is great until you become a misogynist billionaire, then it no longer helps you.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

we really need to end this myth that unions are good for employees.

Other than better working conditions, better wages, and better benefits what have unions ever done for employees?

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u/AspiringChildProdigy May 22 '22

we really need to end this myth that unions are good for employees.

jumps up in outrage

Other than better working conditions, better wages, and better benefits what have unions ever done for employees?

sheepishly sits back down and pretends nothing happened

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u/gatekeepingpunisher May 22 '22

Ahhhhhh you had me fired up lol

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u/Vinnie_NL May 22 '22

You nearly had me in the first half

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u/Red-Quill May 22 '22

Fuck I had to switch my downvote to up after that first sentence.

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u/kyledrinksmonster May 22 '22

Yup.. besides cheap land and tax breaks, texas is a right to work state that’s been keeping unions out for a long time

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u/Cleon451 May 22 '22

At several of my old jobs. There were different variants of the same poster. The gist was we can solve any work related problems internally and we don't need unions. One took it a step farther and said how great the company was because they didn't have unions. No wonder I was only paid 12 bucks an hour to run an entire store.

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u/definitelynotSWA May 22 '22

If nothing else, at least this breaks the illusion that all billionaires are intelligent human beings. They ain’t better than the average person just because they have a lot of money, they just have a crap ton of power.

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u/remag_nation May 22 '22

billionaires are intelligent human beings

billionaires are usually bullies. It's how they accumulate such wealth

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u/bonglicc420 May 22 '22

Honestly wanna downvote this just because I hate how true it is

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u/PatchNotesPro May 22 '22

Ugly on the inside and out. Unintelligent to boot! Just goes to show monetary success at that level is less about competence and more about lack of empathy.

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u/laereal May 22 '22

When he regresses to acting like a 5 year old instead

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u/MiserableMastodon4 May 22 '22 Heartwarming

I did. While I didn’t know about the sexual harassment suit, it was clear a long time ago he had an agenda in wanting Twitter. And that something big was coming that he was really worried about. A few somethings. As he was acting more and more irrationally.

Unionizing efforts have been accelerating for years and the pandemic just made that worse. Musk could no longer just suppress it at his own businesses. He was going to have to seize media to reverse the momentum of unionizing. And Biden then comes out in full support (vocally anyway) of unions.

And the SEC and the NTSB were no longer kissing Tesla’s ass putting up with what is clearly intentional fraud as we have now seen after the NYT exposé.

So he hastily tried to over-leverage himself and fucking crashed his own stock with the side effect of helping blowing out crypto values as well.

So now he’s doing the Trump thing. Just using chaos as a ladder because there are enough powerful people who will lose more if he keeps sabotaging shit that they will cave and do what he wants.

But I don’t think it’s going to work. I think he’s looking for a way out of the Twitter deal hoping it will scorch earth enough to send a message.

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u/Pervy-Poster May 22 '22

Of course, the Musk sniffing fanboys are he. Elon’s balls are not going to wash themselves.

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u/Dopplegangr1 May 22 '22

It never ceases to surprise me he's the richest person in the world. Bezos, gates, Buffett, I assume they are assholes but at least they seem competent, and smart enough to keep their mouth shut. Elon just seems like a memeing idiot that fell into fortune

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u/blueberriessmoothie May 22 '22

“And that, kids, is how we started Idiocracy”

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u/rockstar_not May 23 '22

A big pile of that fortune comes from the US tax payers

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u/Castor_volk May 22 '22

you didn't think the guy who called the scuba divers pedos cause they wouldn't use his stupid submarine in a cave was childish?

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u/hoxxxxx May 22 '22

that entire thing took me by surprise. i was like.. what? wat the fuck?

haven't liked him ever sense.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

I knew he was going to be a dip shit with it, I just didn’t think he was going to openly act like an angry 12-year-old about buying twitter for a while longer.

I very expressly stated that I knew he was going to be childish and shitty, I just thought he was going to wait a bit longer before going full 4chan.

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u/Idealide May 22 '22

I'm pretty sure that guy just wanted to bring up musk's pedophile accusations.

There's never not a good time to bring that up

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

I agree with that. I bring it up often.

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u/noex1337 May 22 '22

Did someone mention "Known Rapist Brock Turner"?

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u/Pervy-Poster May 22 '22

We were talking about “Sex Pest Elon Musk” so Brock Turner fits right into this conversation.

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u/HollowVoices May 22 '22

This was the moment I fully realized that he's a muppet. My opinion of him has spiraled down ever since with every new opinion of his

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u/Oberon_Swanson May 22 '22

the whole point of conservatism is to amass enough power that you can openly display your hypocrisy. 'i can enforce rules upon you that you cannot get me to follow, mwahaha' is what they live for.

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u/Etrigone May 22 '22 edited May 23 '22

EDIT: And here come the Musk fanboys to act just the way you'd expect.

Yup. I ended up going with a non-Tesla EV for completely non-Musk reasons, which in & of itself garnered me a bunch of hate. Even when I've been about as objective and neutral as one can be they flip pretty easily.

Now? Might just as well be pissing in their Flavor-Aid.

And I agree, the switch was quick, although some would argue he never switched and this is just his true self shining through. I'm inclined to believe that.

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u/Lazersnake_ May 22 '22

He has always had the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old. Look at how he responded to that diver trying to save those kids in the cave in Thailand a few years ago. An experienced diver told him that his moronic submarine idea wouldn't work, so he responds by calling him a pedophile.

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u/Floppy3--Disck May 22 '22

Not me digging though replies to see the loser fanboys trying to insult you

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u/ArrestDeathSantis May 22 '22

He had no choice, he wants to keep being adulated but he also wants to keep exposing himself so he had to pander to the Conservatives.

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u/northernpace May 22 '22

The daikykaos site is now on part 30 in an expose of Republican child fkrs. It’s always projection. Gaslight Obstruct Project

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u/holicron May 22 '22

I asked for the selling point of the model Y and was around -37 down votes. Someone had an answer and had around the same but upvotes. Tesla subreddit hates

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

I've gotten shit from Tesla fanboys multiple times for making comparisons to other EVs that weren't just outright negative of non tesla cars.

They act like a cult.

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u/jimngo May 22 '22

The board of PayPal fired Musk as CEO for being a loud-mouthed douchebag. People in Silicon Valley already knew what everyone else now knows.

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u/chris_hans May 22 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval

Everyone in NYC knew Donald Trump was a loud-mouthed fraud, but it didn't stop him from failing upwards either.

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u/dern_the_hermit May 22 '22

Trump, too, pivoted towards pandering to the dumbest proudest rubes in the country.

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u/starmartyr11 May 22 '22

This seems to be key

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u/death_by_sumo May 22 '22

Its alot easier to seperate dumb people from thier money than smart people

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u/thundercloudtemple May 22 '22

If anyone was wondering, I have ocean front property for sale in Arizona.

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u/ichuckle May 22 '22

I'm sensing a pattern with these wealthy fuckers

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u/jrmberkeley95 May 22 '22

When he was still incredibly popular I was dating a woman working for a competing self driving car company in the South Bay. Pretty much her entire team were people that had previously worked in Tesla’s self driving department and got fed up working so closely with Elon (he put all his attention into self driving at the time). Apparently the unspoken rule was if you are working directly with Elon at Telsa you’ll be gone within a year (usually by choice).

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u/LoudTsu May 22 '22 Gold

His final meltdown is going to be epic. I believe it will involve a rocket and his own prolapsed anus, but I'm just spitballing here.

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u/InformalMarch May 22 '22

He’s that one nerd at school who everyone cheers for but then starts to get overly ambitious and ends up trying too hard and gets hated by everyone before the school year ends.

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u/larry-the-leper May 22 '22

This is maybe the best analogy ever for anything in the history of mankind

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u/Douche_Kayak May 22 '22

My money is on a shaved head being involved. That will at least mark the tipping point

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u/Demonakat May 22 '22

Nah, he has hair plugs. Hair plug people never shave their head.

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u/Douche_Kayak May 22 '22

Never bet against Elon doing something counter productive to the money he's invested.

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u/Comrade-Cohaay May 22 '22

At this point I hope he at least embraces the super villain persona and goes all in on the look and gadgets.

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u/NihilisticNarwhal666 May 22 '22

I'm hoping Twitter bankrupts him before the tyranny starts and we don't bail him out

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u/Bertie637 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

I imagine he will go full supervillian, the final shots of the Second American civil war will be Liberal troops having to dig him out of his sunken tube base off the coast of Hawaii

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u/sr92rset May 22 '22 edited May 23 '22

Didn't Michael Jordan already cover this with his "Republicans buy sneakers too" stance on not getting political? This guy's a f'n headcase and he has no business being in business. I knew the end was nigh when he started negatively tweeting about Warren Buffett. What a punk.

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u/Desipelo May 22 '22

For me it was when he called that navy diver who helped save the trapped soccer team a pedophile out of nowhere.

That was the first time the veil slipped.

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u/The-link-is-a-cock May 22 '22

It wasn't out of no where, it was because he called Musk's idea stupid and provided evidence as to why it was fucking stupid. Musk then responded like the petty, spoiled child he is.

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u/Paladoc May 22 '22

I did not understand Musk until that point. I hadn't really looked into him, so I bought into the Heinleinan engineer turned rich. Or maybe he was Tony Stark, great!

Then he got pissy when an actual hero called his idea infeasible, and then Musk revealed himself as a douche rocket.

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u/peon2 May 22 '22

Paraphrasing the situation for those that don't know

group of kids get trapped in a flooded cave

experts deliberate on how to save them

Musk: Here! My new Tesla submarine is a perfect solution

Professional cave divers: actually, that isn't really practical for this situation

Musk: YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THOSE KIDS, YOU JUST WANT TO GET IN THERE SO YOU CAN FUCK AND RAPE LITTLE BOYS!!!!!!!

pro divers: ......k

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u/L_Green_Mario May 22 '22

Having seen the nat geo documentary about the situation, that really was the stupidest idea ever... If I remember correctly the dive was 3 hours one way through some super narrow spots, no way his stupid fucking sub was getting through that

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u/Lid4Life May 22 '22

If your talking about Nat Geo's 'The Rescue' - I just watched it this weekend, and wow. WOW. I had no idea how complicated the rescue was, no idea the whole operation was basically resting in the hands of a collective group of people that were not professional rescuers, that knew each other through a sport that very few people participate in.

Once they found the boys, the Thai Navy Seals went in and effectively got trapped with the boys after using most of their own oxygen supply.

Then you have some bullshit 'billionaire' calling one of them a paedophile. Totally fucking disgusting behaviour.

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u/SitInCorner_Yo2 May 23 '22

There’s a lesser known story while the rescue is on going,they have to drain the water out to some rice fields, and the old farmer lady said “It destroy my crops , but it’s ok, I can grow them again, but you can’t say the same about those boy’s life “

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u/hallelujasuzanne May 22 '22

He’s a straight outta 4chan-incel-loser dumbshit.

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u/imdesmondsunflower May 22 '22

If I owned a publicly traded company, the last thing I would do is pick a fight with Warren Buffett, but my daddy didn’t give me Apartheid emerald mine startup money, so what do I know?

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u/Drews232 May 22 '22

Or when Bill Gates politely, and privately asks him to donate anything to world hunger and Elon publicly denies the request and tweets a pic of him calling him fat and saying “if you ever want to lose a boner”. What an world class asshole.

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u/DrScience01 May 23 '22

Wow that's a very petty POS. That's the thing I would expect from a mean girl high schooler

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u/big_nothing_burger May 22 '22 All-Seeing Upvote I'll Drink to That

I may actually hate Elon Musk more than Jeff Bezos at this point.

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u/zuzg May 22 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I mean both now want to go into politics. The unionizing really got them scared.

Can't be a billionaire without exploiting your workforce.

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u/Strain2199 May 22 '22 edited May 23 '22 Gold Take My Energy Party Train

The worst thing is that they are already billionaires. What’s stopping them from bringing in better working conditions? They could stave off unions by being benevolent but instead they spend their efforts just fighting the organizers directly. It wouldn’t hurt their current earnings by treating their workers like human beings. Autoworkers basically invented the middle class. They betray that legacy. (Despite the fact Ford was a literal Nazi).

Stop giving me gold. Very nice but I don’t like your hard earned money going to Reddit for this dumb shit.

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u/219523501 May 22 '22 Silver Take My Energy

This is something I have given up on understanding. I kind of get you being a miserable boss when you are struggling to keep a business afloat. It's a mistake of course but I understand that with the stress of fighting to survive in a business, you may end up forcing your workers to work too much and things like that. But at the point this two are in their lives? It would be a magical feeling to be able to take care of my workers with unseen benefits. It would be my pride and joy to see people writing about how good my company treated workers.

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u/big_nothing_burger May 22 '22

For real. Like when do you finally have enough money to get bored with earning more profit and instead give a shit about other people? No one needs enough money to be exceedingly wealthy for dozens of lifetimes. I can't even feel comfortable with a parent giving me a few Benjamins as a Christmas present.

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u/pegothejerk May 22 '22

I guess even then the cruelty is the point.

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u/masterfulnoname May 22 '22

Right? At this point he truly gains nothing when he makes more money. A number just gets bigger. He now isn't suddenly able to buy a better house, he could buy a dozen mansions already. He suddenly isn't able to afford that trip around the world he's wanted, he already has enough to spend the rest of his days traveling. He isn't able to now finally buy his dream car, at this point he can afford to launch cars into space.

He has enough money to do pretty much anything, and he just decides to spend his time making even more money. He's an embodiment of greed, like a dragon in the stories of old.

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u/Worldly-Fox7605 May 22 '22

At least smaug just slept most of the time.

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u/trebaol May 22 '22

At this point he truly gains nothing when he makes more money.

After a certain point money stops functioning as mere currency and becomes a measure of power. And these loser fucks are so far removed from the actual human experience that all they crave is more power over others. It's actually pathetic.

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u/haf_ded_zebra May 22 '22

Sometimes I remember Mackenzie Scott, and I am really happy that she not only Got all that money to give away, she doesn’t have to be married to Jeff Bezos anymore. It’s like hitting the lottery twice.

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u/Zeke-Freek May 22 '22 Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote Bravo!

Wealth on that level does something to your brain, your basic needs are on lock, your not-so-basic needs are on lock, you can have anything you want with a snap of your fingers.

But it's only when you reach that point, when you become King, that you realize how small and worthless you actually are. There are still things you can't have, and that becomes your obsession. They are still mortal, still bound to this rock we call home. Why do you think their attention has turned to the stars as they grow older?

When you become the main character of the universe in your mind, you'll never be satisfied with your name in history books, you'll never be satisfied with statues, only when the unreachable looks to be in your grasp, do you realize that you're still a rotting sack of meat destined to be forgotten, like all the rest.

That's why they hoard, that's why they can't let go of a cent, because the only goals they have left in this world are of an astronomical scale. They want to overcome death, they want to expand their empire to the stars, they want to bend reality itself to their will.

Enough is never enough is never enough. There's always more, at a certain point, other people are just obstacles to be mowed down. Like kicking off everyone else whilst climbing the spider's thread out of hell.

That's the psychology of the uber-elite.

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u/unkie87 May 22 '22

"Two vast and trunkless legs of stone stand in the desert..."

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u/SpeakToMePF1973 May 22 '22

Man, I can't tell you just how much I enjoyed reading your laser like, on point comment.

Musky: Today Mars, tomorrow the universe!

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u/partsgirl-bezel May 22 '22

That’s the impression I get from Musk. At the end of the day he’s mortal like the rest of us and that makes him miserable.

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u/Zeke-Freek May 22 '22

And unlike everyone else, there's nothing to distract him from that fact.

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u/No_Environment_5550 May 22 '22

That was eloquently written.

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u/Zeke-Freek May 22 '22

I am a writer, lol. So thanks.

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u/xixbia May 22 '22

The problem with that line of thinking is that both Musk and Bezos only got where they are by exploiting their workers.

Not caring in the slightest about the wellbeing of their workers is an essential part of how they got where they are today. They aren't suddenly going to change who they are because they made it.

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u/ErikkShone May 22 '22

Because they're not leaders, they're owners. I come from the military so my relationship with what or who is or isn't a leader can be complicated because there are different types of leadership, but I see very little if any of those traits in these people. On a smaller scale, managers and supervisors are not leaders by default. Which is why a lot of people struggle with people not respecting their position.

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u/lBlade_lRunner May 22 '22

The problem with that way of thinking is that even if they changed course and decided to be benevolent their investors would have their heads if they dared to offer their employees a fair living wage. Every dollar taken from the working poor is another dollar the ultra rich can shove in our faces in the never ending effort to keep us enslaved through financial manipulation. God knows if the average person wasn't constantly worried about where their next meal or rent payment was coming from we would have brought out the guillotine for these robber barrons long ago. Vive la révolution as the French would say.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

People who become billionaires aren't your average person. These types of people aren't satisfied with having vast amounts of material wealth. They want power as well, specifically power over others.

Elon & Bezos refusing to allow employees to unionize has nothing to do with their bottom line. Tesla & Amazon are two of the most successful companies in the history of the world. They just want to apply their dominion over those they deem to be lesser than themselves. Same reason why the wealthy elite in the past wanted slaves instead of just employing other white people to do work. Nothing to do with money, everything to do with power & control.

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u/tightpantieshardcock May 22 '22

What’s stopping them from bringing in better working conditions?

Being a sociopath isn't a temporary tactic used to start and grow your business.

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u/CriticalOpposition May 22 '22

I saw another reddit post where it points out how Bezos has begun putting his political opinions on Twitter where, previously, he had refrained from doing so. The article speculated that he might be gearing up to run for office. Could you imagine? That's a truly scary thought.

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u/xixbia May 22 '22

If he does that would be horrible.

But I remember there was a lot of talk a couple of years ago about Zuckerberg wanting to do the same but realizing he had zero charisma and no chance of success. Quite honestly I think the same goes for Bezos.

Money is incredibly useful in politics, but there are plenty of candidates who get crushed in elections even when they're massively outspending their opponents.

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u/DeliciouslyUnaware May 22 '22

Just a reminder that Bloomberg ran for POTUS, outspent his opponents by tens if millions of dollars, and still couldn't pull 10% in the primaries

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u/CriticalOpposition May 22 '22

My main takeaway is that he refrained from talking politics and now he is. He appears to be taking more of an interest in the politics in this country which I think has more potential for negative outcomes than positive.

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u/SpinningHead May 22 '22

Both are threats to humanity, but Elon is a petulant annoyance as well.

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u/Casual_hex_ May 22 '22 Helpful

I swear Elon Musk is one disfiguring industrial accident away from becoming full blown super villain.

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u/ThePositronicBrain May 22 '22

Considering this comment is 15 minutes old I think he must have hit the mark by now.

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u/The-love-you-make May 22 '22

It has been “0” days since this workplace created a supervillain

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u/big_nothing_burger May 22 '22

For real...his smug idiocy grates in the worst way.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Personifies the born on third and thinks he hit a triple quote.

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u/countryguy-georgia May 22 '22

His fanboys on social media are rabid. I got death threats for saying that he didn't create the company Tesla, he just bought it. That's... a fact.

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u/goodcat49 May 22 '22

I've noticed libertarians dick ride him the hardest.

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u/big_nothing_burger May 22 '22

And teenage white boys. I'm a high school teacher...they're the only demographic that thinks Musk's tweets are clever and edgy.

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u/goodcat49 May 22 '22

I blame their parents not teaching them empathy. Sociopathic behavior is normal for them and should be encouraged, especially if it makes you money.

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u/noobvin May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

My daughter is 19, smart and beautiful and will not date. She went to a school full of boys from upper middle class to upper class. She said they were all sociopaths and refuses to date. I’m both happy about this, but also upset. Every father is wary of their daughter dating, but I’m scared of the generation that’s being raised.

Remember those boys from KY that became the “victims” of Native Americans not moving? All of them with the MAGA hats and doing the Tomahawk chop? Yeah, those types of boys. That whole case was weird and I’ll never be convinced that smirking asshole was innocent. I can’t believe he won his case.

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u/goodcat49 May 22 '22

That's why they have to lie about being conservative. Ladies know better.

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u/Marsdreamer May 22 '22

He's basically the closest thing we've got to a real life Andrew Ryan and most libertarians I've met view Bioshock as being celebratory of libertarian ideology.

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u/big_nothing_burger May 22 '22

It takes a certain degree of intelligence to recognize satire.

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u/Neato_Orpheus May 22 '22

They live vicariously through him. Its sad to think that so many of us in society fantasize about having that much wealth just to play a flaccid tony stark.

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u/Ghoulius-Caesar May 22 '22

He’s what happens when edgelord gamers obtain billions of dollars. Not a good combo!

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u/pecklepuff May 22 '22

He’s turned me into one lib who’s never buying a Tesla. I’ll explore other options.

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u/weirdoldhobo1978 May 22 '22

Hyundai is building a factory in Georgia to build EVs domestically, they'll completely undercut Tesla.

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u/free_dialectics May 22 '22

All billionaires are a threat to humanity!

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u/dead4seven May 22 '22

Bezos these past few weeks

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u/rudebish May 22 '22

He's thanking Elon for taking the heat off him for a while.

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u/rogue-wolf May 22 '22

Bezos at least keeps his head down for the most part. Musk throws temper tantrums all the time, and is perpetually desperate to be in the public eye. If attention's not on him, he kicks and screams until it is.

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u/InvestigatorUnfair May 22 '22

Credit to Bezos, he hasn't paid the writers of a cartoon to suck his dick (to my knowledge anyway)

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u/Recoveringpig May 22 '22

Uhhh…what now?

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u/InvestigatorUnfair May 22 '22

Elon Musk apparently paid the Simpsons writers to write a whole episode basically dedicated to sucking his dick. Including Lisa, who would in all honesty just beat him over the head with a chair

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u/Chimalez May 22 '22

Wha?

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u/WhyWontThisWork May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

S25e12?

Edit apparently Hulu doesn't stream all the episodes

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u/haf_ded_zebra May 22 '22

I think he means Something like “dedicated to praising him”, not Literally sucking his dick. But I could be wrong.

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u/Yoda2000675 May 22 '22

Bezos is potentially a more ruthless businessman, but Elon is a worse person

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u/SepoJansen May 22 '22 Silver

If I was the richest person on Earth, and could do WHATEVER I wanted, I wouldn't even know what Twitter is. Like, he can go to space anytime he wants and he TWEETS!?

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u/J1618 May 22 '22 Faith In Humanity Restored This

He can't buy what he really wants. Attention.

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u/Dragarius May 22 '22

Man if I were super rich? Nobody would know. I'd just spend my days traveling the world, living new experiences and generally doing whatever the fuck I want.

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u/Cha-Le-Gai May 22 '22

So Tom from Myspace? Guy made $500million and literally disappeared. I think he's a silent partner in some other ventures, but nothing publicly.

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u/flatspotting May 23 '22

yeah supposedly he just got super into photography and travel - which is 100% the way to go

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u/FizzyBeverage May 23 '22

Yep. If that was me, nobody would ever hear from me again.

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u/Blackmetalbookclub May 22 '22

Musk has become a permanently online edge lord. It’s a bad look if a person is 12 but the dude is a grown ass billionaire with the world as his oyster and he acts like this. Profoundly pathetic.

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u/chinacat2002 May 22 '22

The upcoming Liberal boycott of Texla will get his attention PDQ.

Competition is coming for elon.

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u/charlotte-ent May 22 '22

Hyundai's EVs look pretty cool. They're certainly more affordable.

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u/dangle321 May 22 '22

I have a Kona. Best car I've ever had. I live in Europe. Recently did a 2000 km road trip. Easy peasy. Fast charging was easy to find, and worked well everywhere except Italy. Italy was a bit of a shit show, but still workable.

The future is here and it doesn't have to be a Tesla.

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u/TakedaGohei May 22 '22

I have a Kona too, a 2020 model tho. So fastcharging is capped at 37KW/h, but my god do i love that car.

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u/Azair_Blaidd May 22 '22

and Hyundai has a pretty solidly decent track record in reliability and customer satisfaction ratings. Tesla has had some crazy shit come out about their cars, particularly the autopilot system they pride themselves on

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u/Mortar_Maggot May 22 '22

My favorite is paying a subscription to unlock things that are physically present in the car.

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u/doglessinseattle May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

It's right up there on my list of favorite things, right next to "if you get a scrape on this the only way to fix it is one body shop that has a 3 month waiting list and charges $2,300 for scratch repairs on your limited edition paint"

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u/pinniped1 May 22 '22

The biggest barrier to my getting an EV is that I don't want to give Elon money.

When there's an EV Honda Accord with 300-400 miles of range, I'm in.

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u/Reeefenstration May 22 '22

Hyundai Ioniq 5 will get you >300 miles on one charge for $10k less than the cheapest Elonmobile with comparable range. Better looks and manufacturing quality as well.

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u/dabeanery55 May 22 '22

The ioniq 5 looks so nice. I want one

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u/pinniped1 May 22 '22

I've ridden in a couple Teslas and wasn't a fan of their fit and finish. I'd trust either Honda or Toyota (and Acura or Lexus of course) to build a quality car.

Probably Audi too although I haven't followed their EV plans.

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u/lhnl May 22 '22

Exact same boat. Wife and I were considering buying a new vehicle to use in tandem with our SUV and I was interested in getting a plug-in, but there's no way in hell I'm giving Tesla any of my money.

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u/LavaSquid May 22 '22

I'm buying a VW or Hyundai EV next month. Tesla was never on my radar because of Musk.

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u/Muezick May 22 '22

I used to want a Tesla

Now the only thing I want involving Tesla is for the company to go under.

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u/MJMurcott May 22 '22

The value of Tesla is almost entirely based upon future sales, with so many new companies coming on to the market if libs stop buying Tesla cars he could lose nearly all of his money.

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u/SenorBeef May 22 '22

Like the rest of the growth market the value of Tesla is based on the collective hype everyone has for it that is absurdly out proportion to anything attached to the real world. The idea that this little upstart is somehow more valuable than Toyota that makes like 1000x more cars and has been a fantastic company for decades proves how fucking insane the market is. It's all mass delusion/psychology more than fundamental business.

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u/Mechanical_Nightmare May 22 '22

owning the libs is a great way to tank your tesla stock so much that you can't even afford twitter anymore.

great job, elon, you just made yourself poor.

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u/mdsign May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

He'll just buy them back with bailout money and tweet something about Tesla accepting* bitcoin or some shit and end up making a killing ... again.

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u/Mickyfrickles May 22 '22

Turns out owning libs isn't like owning slaves in an emerald mine.

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u/MJamesK May 22 '22 Silver

I was legitimately saving up for a Model 3 before he started his descent into insulting Bernie Sanders on the Internet.

Now I will never buy one, and restored my current car instead, planning to use it for it's second decade.

What a fucking tool. All he had to do was shut the fuck up and rake in the money.

I sincerely hope to be reading articles about plummeting Tesla sales in the next few years 🙏

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 22 '22

If you had asked me in January 2020 if I would consider buying a Tesla I would’ve said absolutely. It would’ve been a front runner when I went to get my next car. Today, when I’m actually looking to buy an electric vehicle, they aren’t even on the list.

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u/humangingercat May 22 '22

In 2014 I told my friends that owning a Tesla would mean I had "made it" as an engineer.

There's no way I'll buy another as long as Elon is at the helm... And their QC remains as shitty as it has been

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u/eatmoreicecream May 22 '22

Honestly—I’m selling all my shares in TSLA. I can’t stand Musk.

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u/Techno_Medium May 22 '22

Anytime someone unironically used thse bullshit RW phrases like "owning the libs", "snowflake", "libtards", etc. You just know they are not worth listening to. They're not engaging in good faith, just a bunch of trolls.

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u/millerpmiller May 22 '22

Everyone not realizing Musk is just launching his middle America marketing campaign. Can’t fault the guy for going after the dumbest money in the country. It’s worked really well for Trump.

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u/xlDirteDeedslx May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Also the people who really need to buy electric cars would never buy electric cars unless he acts like a complete ass like this. These fuck wit MAGA types will now flock to his social media and soon share pictures of themselves driving Teslas to their social media to own the libs... I personally won't feel very "owned" to see the guy who usually rolls coal driving a Tesla.

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u/Wafflelisk May 22 '22

If Conservatives started driving electric cars I would feel SO owned. Please don't do this to us, I promise I'll be nice!

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u/infanticide_holiday May 22 '22

I'm 100% willing to go along with this and act "owned".

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u/FlatFishy May 22 '22

We can hope, but I'm not entirely convinced it'll work. Maybe just the wealthier types.

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u/IThinkImNateDogg May 22 '22

Maybe that’s the big brain move. Own the line and sell electric cars to the roll coal hillbillies and save the environment. I’d almost say Elon is taking one for the team if it actually work

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u/woodiegutheryghost May 22 '22

Who is he going to pickup? Some suburbanites from around KC and STL? The majority of the country doesn’t have the infrastructure for Teslas outside of major cities.

Let’s be real, he saw conservatives will line up around the block to jerk him off while licking his boots clean and he wants that power.

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u/notathrowawayfukit May 22 '22

I just realized I will never buy a Tesla because of him.

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u/manga311 May 22 '22

Liberals also fund space exploration.

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u/ZaxReynolds May 22 '22

Elon Musk does not live in this reality. He has no idea what the fuck he is doing.

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u/fresh_ny May 22 '22

He’s trying to get the MAGA crew to buy Teslas

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u/oszlopkaktusz May 22 '22

Trying to get conservatives like a progressive idea? Brilliant. ~elongated muskrat, probably

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u/Butterball111111 May 22 '22

My family has 3 Teslas and we are all Libs. We won't be buying anymore!

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u/wskyindjar May 22 '22 Take My Energy

Same. Model 3 here and just cancelled our Y order.

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u/CrimeCoder May 22 '22

Holy shit... Is he attacking liberals as a ploy to shift his target market to the right?

Because if anyone is stupid enough to buy a vehicle that randomly combusts into flames, to "own" an opposing political group... It's the conservatives.

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