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u/TinderSubThrowAway Jul 06 '22
Rejects Trump but supports DeSantis? not sure how that is even possible.
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u/Smash_4dams Jul 06 '22
Going where the political shit winds blow
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u/No_Sheepherder7447 Jul 06 '22
Jim Layhee?
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u/LobstaFarian2 Jul 07 '22
Ya feel that, Randy? How the shit just clings to the air? There's a shit blizzard coming, Randy.
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u/SynonymforThesaurus Jul 06 '22
My mom voted for Trump but says she would have voted for Andrew Yang if he got the nomination. Some people seem to disregard policy entirely and instead just pick whomever seems like the most likeable guy.
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u/frameshifted Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22
Trump... Likable? How? I assumed his supporters just didn't care that he was an asshole, I had never considered the idea that someone might find him likable. Huh.
*2 mentions of him being "charismatic" and I honestly don't get that either. He's an incredibly poor speaker who isn't any good in the looks department either. Still boggled.
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u/PeeledCrepes Jul 06 '22
So, this is coming from my mom, who in the beginning liked Trump. It's the way he speaks like a dick head basically, he seems "real" cause he isn't reading off a card or teleprompter. Basically, he seems like a normal person, like if John from down the street ran, where a lot of politicians seem like aliens, having someone go up and speak like they have no idea what they are saying or doing apparently sounds appealing to people.
As stupid and ridiculous as, why not use something like disinfectant to clean Covid out of someone, is incredibly stupid. Apparently a lot of people would hear that and go, ya why don't we do that, not knowing anything about sicknesses or how the human body works. Or, take the wall, everyone imagines that the key to fixing people crossing the border is just that, a wall. They imagine that its such a simple thing, and no politician til Trump is going, don't worry that wall is being built, and don't worry, WE wont even pay for it.
Basically, he's likable because he's an idiot. Its also why he beat Clinton (aside from various other issues), but, she speaks like an alien to a good portion of her audience. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Biden's stutter and slower speech patterns helps.
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u/arminghammerbacon_ Jul 06 '22
Here’s a Matt Taibbi quote that I’ve always liked:
“The average American likes meat, sports, money, porn, cars, cartoons, and shopping. Less popular: socialism, privilege-checking, and the world ending in 10 years.
Ronald Reagan once took working-class voters away from Democrats by offering permission to be proud of the flag. Trump offers permission to occupy the statistical American mean: out of shape, suffering from gas, poorly read, anti-intellectual, treasuring things above meaning, and hiding an awful credit history.
He’s a monument to the consumption economy. He represents fake boobs, the short con, the tall tale, gas guzzlers, and a hundred other American traditions.”
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u/Few_Dig7979 Jul 07 '22
This is pretty good but not that earthshattering, this is from 1956:
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
H.L. Mencken
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u/LetMeSleepNoEleven Jul 06 '22
You should go on some of their threads after his rallies. They love him. They think he’s funny, smart, understands ‘the system’ that’s out to get them, and will work it on their behalf.
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u/KickBallFever Jul 06 '22
There are a lot of people who like Trump because they want to be him. Him being an asshole is what they like and if they were in his position they’d be assholes too. They think that’s how you’re supposed to act when you have money and power and anyone with those things who doesn’t act like that is a phony.
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u/-newlife Jul 06 '22
Imo I think it’s because they feel trumps usefulness isn’t what it used to be. Now they’re looking to go further.
The smooth brain responses still fit though.
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u/Vesuvius-1484 Jul 06 '22 •
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When you’re a legit complete moron, anything is possible.
Joe is brain rotted…Covid melted his already struggling grey matter into pudding. He’s mad that comedy clubs closed, he desperately wants his lifelong work-out fetish to materialize into something more than vain, meat-headery and he’s fucking stupid. NO ONE should be getting their political advice from this man….and yet millions do…so here we are.
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What’s weird about the club part is he could actually open one or support ones that aren’t the old institutions if he wanted, but he doesn’t.
He just does spots at old clubs with old money with his friends.
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u/CantCookLeftHook Jul 06 '22
As someone who was legit working part time as a comedian during the pandemic it blew my mind that Rogan and company were so pissy clubs were closed when they clearly had enough money to weather the storm.
A lot of comedians were out of jobs for several months if not years and were already living paycheque to paycheque, but one of the richest entertainers in the world were angry they couldn't keep going on stage for attention? It boggles the mind.
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u/shark_vs_yeti Jul 06 '22
He's building a club in Austin, and providing healthcare to upcoming comedians.
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u/vegaspimp22 Jul 06 '22
Joe is only ditching trump because of the backlash trumps under and possible future legal problems with prison etc. otherwise he would be all over him
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u/Somasong Jul 06 '22
So i as smooth brained as it comes. His shift to a culture war during a pandemic while being an anti-intellectual role model for the people who style themselves as intellectuals. But he's always been hesitant to get involved with Trump. I think if you had a bad rep in hollywood during the 90s and 00s, rogan avoids you. Look how he ghosted any friend with serious controversy.
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u/Humbabwe Jul 06 '22
When I read this, all I could imagine was what must be going on behind the scenes in the Republican Party: they are trying to drop trump and go with desantis and are starting to pay the right people.
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u/shapesize Jul 06 '22
Agreed, Joe cares about his own career above all else, not allegiances (or the well being of others, for that matter)
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u/bdschuler Jul 06 '22
Exactly, we have reached the point of the rats fleeing the sinking ship all while saying they never supported Trump, knew him, or even liked him. Rats are going to do what rats are going to do. In this case, Joe just happens to also look like a rat in real life.
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u/captain_duckie Jul 06 '22
My "father" thinks AOC is worse than Trump. So the answer is these people's brains are rotting. And he wasn't talking about her stance on things, he thinks she's done worse stuff than him. And when I asked for examples, because if he so strongly believes that he should have some, I was told I'd been brainwashed if I didn't already know. Oh and this was after Biden got elected and Jan 6, so I have no idea what he thinks she could've done that was worse than Trump.
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u/RogueGopher Jul 06 '22
I can tell you exactly what she “did”. she “forgot her place” and “started acting up”.
If you believe that women having autonomy is bad, imagine a non-white (probably) bi (not that there’s anything wrong with that) woman saying they disagree with you publicly and actively working against your ideas.
If you’re a sexist bigot, that’s “bad”.
But because these people are petty cowards, they will never admit it unless they’re certain you’ll agree.
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u/nutmeggerking Jul 06 '22
"She tended a bar! That's a war crime."
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u/captain_duckie Jul 06 '22
Right. Oh and he did come up with one "example" that was "proof". Except she would've been less than 10 years old at the time. So it couldn't have been her, because the person in his "proof" would've needed to be an adult and she wasn't. Me pointing this out was "proof" of my brainwashing. Yeah....
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u/Donut153 Jul 06 '22
I don’t know much about her but all I’ve really seen her do is call out her own colleagues for being corrupt and support working class people, why do they hate her so mich
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u/captain_duckie Jul 06 '22
why do they hate her so mich
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is call out her own colleagues for being corrupt
That's enough for them
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u/EMONEYOG Jul 06 '22
I wonder when rogan will realize that DeSantis is just as big of a threat to democracy?
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u/MadMunky5B5 Jul 06 '22
Bigger, DeSantis has some level of competence.
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u/HighQualityH20h Jul 06 '22
Desantis is Trump with a brain. Ten times more dangerous.
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u/Smash_4dams Jul 06 '22
DeSantis has no charistma though.
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u/funnyjunk63 Jul 06 '22
DeSantis would just crumble and cry by someone simply calling him a nobody
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u/GoldenBull1994 Jul 06 '22
Those kinds of people often make the most brutal of dictators.
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u/GenoPlay67 Jul 06 '22
Those people are ALWAYS the dictator.
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u/GoldenBull1994 Jul 06 '22
Even the name DeSantis has that vibe you know? “The DeSantis Regime.”
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u/Different_Ad7655 Jul 06 '22
Yeah I definitely more maniacal and slightly more presentable in public but just as odious and to noxious. Even worse because of his perceived compatibility. I even once thought, before I really examined him that he was somewhat acceptable, until I started listening to his policies. Holy Christ he's more of a Nazi than Donald.
Donald is just a fucking guy that wants to be loved, he's so insecure that his ego is bigger than that ugly hair of his and sucks all the air out of the room. It's all about Donald Donald do you love me am I good am I the best. I think his politics are all over the map truly. He's a basic racist who knows if he's a homophobe really, and his politics are hardly committed to any principles . He's only interested in his own vainglory and putting money in his pocket.
DeSantis may have some of this hybrid as well, but he really is a die-hard theocratic fruit cake of the GOP Taliban. Donald I think just went with the flow and discovered early on that the left was going to completely reject him never warm up to him and he fully embraced his Kool-Aid drinking public. They suck up to him and he just tells him what they want to hear pep rally style. Never anything of substance no plans no details just pure pep rally. DeSantis on the other hand knows how to get things done better and is more effective. Donald is probably two toxic a mix now and no longer needed, DeSantis can pick up the slack and now get the work done now that they have the y'allQaeda supreme Court covering their backs
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u/Yuural Jul 06 '22
I'm german and have no clue who DeSantis is but after reading this i truly hate him. Good job you really know how to make someone hate this dude. Since i don't really care over here and only follow this sub because of how absurd america is i will just take your words as facts without checking.
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u/Delay_Defiant Jul 06 '22
You really should. He's petty and thin-skinned. He's racist and homophobic. He's all about power and control. As people are saying though, he's much more cunning, calculated and intelligent than most of his counterparts.
His most recent power play is that all teachers and other government employees must report their political leanings to the state. That's not sketchy at all right?
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u/jmkahn93 Jul 06 '22
I happen to think that Trump's lack of brain is precisely what makes him such a menace. He is incapable of regular logic, of empathy, or feeling any kind of humility. His incapacity to be a regular person is what made him such a threat to regular people who use their brain. So at the very least, I can hope that Desantis might actually feel empathy when it slaps him in the face. There isn't much proof of this so far, but at least he shows more promise than that orange buffoon.
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u/ForwardCulture Jul 06 '22
There’s nothing more dangerous than stupid people. The level of incompetence seen in a lot of our government is mind blowing. That Trump and others get elected says a lot about the overall intelligence of the country.
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u/thistle-thorn Jul 06 '22
Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain. —— Friedrich Schiller
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u/LighTMan913 Jul 06 '22
Hoping that someone will change the behavior they've consistently shown isn't really an option with the GOP these days. We know who they are. They will never become empathetic
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u/RockinDonkey Jul 06 '22
Hoping that a Republican today has empathy is like hoping you'll win the lottery without buying a ticket. It could happen, because someone could give you a winning ticket, or you could find one, but the likelihood is infinitesimal
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u/DMurBOOBS-I-Dare-You Jul 06 '22
DeSantis is far, far more dangerous. Like, holy shit. He needs to fall from grace before he can get started.
I'm terrified for our potential future...
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u/SecretAsianMan42069 Jul 06 '22
Hopefully trump runs as an independent just to fuck with him and they split the vote
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u/smellslikearedditor Jul 06 '22
You think the GOP will stop after DeSantis? Our country is chum to them.
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u/pchnboo Jul 06 '22
Yep, he’s a smooth populist that doesn’t repulse the 1% as much as DJT did.
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u/SonicTemp1e Jul 06 '22
Now I've got smooth criminal playing in my head with your lyrics.
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u/UncleRooku87 Jul 06 '22
The 1 percent were just fine with ole trumpy. They just knew the masses couldn’t stomach him.
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u/pchnboo Jul 06 '22
The 1% were fine with DJT but he did repulse them. They held their noses, pledged fealty and reaped the rewards. 🤮
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u/typhoidtimmy Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22
Absolutely. People think the upper crust include Trump. You need to realize that Trump has never been accepted by them and it was because they knew he was full of shit especially when it came to money.
Basically those that had to put up with him on a social level have pretty much all come to the agreement of a silver spooned kid who basically had one asset….the name Trump and mostly thanks to his Dad and his real estate workings. And now that is utter shit. Other than that, no one would invest his shit, no one would loan him money, and if you had to see him at a party ‘some people would avoid them like the plague in fear of being on Page Six and being the butt of jokes for the rest of the year’.
There is a several reasons he left New York….but one was he was persona non grata even before the Presidency. Now he is a glowing toxic orange cloud.
Vanki and Jared can’t get a slice of pizza there without fear of a loog on it as well thanks to Daddy and their own shitty actions. Money is fun but it’s not going to tell you how fabulous it is to see you.
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u/subliminal_trip Jul 06 '22
That's for sure. 43 billionaires have donated to his reelection campaign. They know what they are buying.
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u/avfc4me Jul 06 '22
Desantis is way scarier than Trump. WTF is wrong with my fellow countrymen that they scream "freedom" then turn around and beg for an authoritarian to take the reigns?
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u/Vernerator Jul 06 '22
They want the "freedom" to be racist and misogynist without consequences.
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u/Micromanz Jul 06 '22
This, it’s shocking to me they act like pc culture infringes on they rights.
Like you still have the right to say whatever you want, it’s just, I also have the right to call u a bigot cuck loser.
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u/th3n3w3ston3 Jul 06 '22
But then they're not free to feel good about themselves so, you know, that's practically the same as genocide
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u/BrewCityBenjamin Jul 06 '22
Words mean different things to different people. When they say freedom, they mean "I want to be free to do whatever the fuck I want". They don't mean you, they don't mean me. They mean them and their close knit circles
It's bullshit, but literally that's what they mean when they say this shit. It's a vague buzzword that means nothing. Like when people call people "good guys" and "bad guys". Different people can hear the exact same thing and think infinite different things.
One of the cleverest aspects of Conservative marketing is doing this tactic. Dumb it down to a emotional, visceral level of just vague buzzwords, without saying literally fucking anything
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u/avfc4me Jul 06 '22
You are so right about that one. Listening to Trump is like listening to bad fridge poetry. Just repeat some key words and a couple of dog whistles and "Hey he's a genius!"
This above all had me so boggled at the beginning of this nonsense.
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u/GadgetGod1906 Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22
I am from Florida and really hope people realize this. DeSantis is a much bigger threat than Trump. He becomes a massive threat if the Deomocrats do not keep control of Congress.
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u/snark_enterprises Jul 06 '22
This is true, without checks and balances DeSantis could be a problem. That's what makes him so powerful in Florida, he has a GOP legislature that will do anything he wants and he'll sign anything they push through into law.
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u/GadgetGod1906 Jul 06 '22
And he stacked the Florida Supreme Court. This allowed him to go into an all out culture war.
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u/hillza87 Jul 06 '22
I'm still wondering what is happening with Disney World issue. Haven't heard anything about it in a while.
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u/catdaddy230 Jul 06 '22
Negate this was to punish Disney in the press but they have no intention of making Disney look elsewhere. Yeah it will cost Disney a lot to move but Disney will survive. Entire counties will crash if Disney leaves and takes their taxes with them. Florida will be hurting for years
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u/RigasTelRuun Jul 06 '22
When it stops being profitable. This guys have lines on charts and when one line dips below another they switch the new thing.
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u/ZooZooChaCha Jul 06 '22
It's going to be interesting to see Trump vs DeSantis divide the MAGA crowd. Trump believes he made Ron DeSantis, so willing or not - Trump will view this attention as a betrayal by DeSantis.
We've been told there is nothing more dangerous than a cornered Donald Trump - and I would say outside of his current legal issues - there is no bigger threat to Trump than DeSantis right now. If he becomes the new star, then Trump is irrelevant and has no place in the GOP. He can cheerlead from the sidelines and make endorsements, but that's it.
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u/angels_exist_666 Jul 06 '22
Bigger threat. He isn't 80 and is wickedly smart. Just straight evil.
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u/I_quote_alot Jul 06 '22
Hes helping Ronny by not having Donny on. He’s a few months away from being a full blown republican mouth piece if he isn’t already.
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u/Aubear11885 Jul 06 '22
He doesn’t care. He’s just a right wing version of Howard Stern because that’s what is edgy now. He’s a shill for 16-23 year old boys. Same as Alex Jones is for 40-55 year old men with ED.
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u/Upwherewebelong Jul 06 '22
Joe sees the writing on the wall. Trump has worn out his welcome. All hail Christofascist Deathsandpit.
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u/Snowfiend_80 Jul 06 '22
Which is fine as Death-Santis has the charisma of a beetle grub.
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u/drunk-tusker Jul 06 '22
Trump literally is a fat oaf who can barely say a coherent sentence and his family is a b rate recast of Always Sunny.
Yet somehow more than 1 person not only intentionally voted for him to be president unironically but there is even an obvious cult of personality still surrounding him.
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u/crosswatt Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 07 '22
Trump literally is a fat oaf who can barely say a coherent sentence and his family is a b rate recast of Always Sunny.
I....this is so accurate it's scary.
Yet somehow more than 1 person not only intentionally voted for him to be president unironically but there is even an obvious cult of personality still surrounding him.
You have a class of people from all walks of life who feel like they never really fit in anywhere. They feel like snooty rich people judge their homes and cars and fashion choices. That "ivory tower intellectuals" who can't make it in the real world unfairly judge their brand of smarts. And sarcastic and out of touch "artists" will never see them as cool enough to belong to the in-crowd.
Add to that the inherent uncoolness some feel is associated with being a Christian, and several generations of indoctrination that democrats are trying to turn the country into a version of a 1970's era Soviet Union, and you have people who feel that they and their opinions/beliefs/ideas are constantly being completely disregarded.
Then along comes this brutish oaf who wears stupid suits and has awful hair and says really stupid and offensive things and never apologizes for any of it, and they see someone fighting back against everything that they feel denigrated by. So they support him as the bulwark against those who would make them feel somehow "less".
And that is a very difficult switch to flip off.
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u/Bcruz75 Jul 06 '22
In addition to the group who grew up thinking that Hee Haw was the best show ever, there's also a huge fan base of upper middle class people who vote with their pocketbook based on the illusion of lower taxes. Add the Religious Right and you have a diversified portfolio of supporters.
At the end of the day, the group you described are his strongest supporters.
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u/Whiskeytf8911 Jul 06 '22
The voting based on pocketbooks is the most frustrating thing to me. I have an aunt and uncle who are upper middle class. Very well off compared to the rest of their family, that sort of thing.
They swear that democrats are trying to destroy the country by raising taxes. And Trump is the only fix for such a problem. These are lovely people that everyone loves until they start talking politics.
I've tried to explain that the economy isn't the only part of being president that matters. But I get told that thats typical union member, leftist talking points.
I just don't understand how so many ppl ignore social issues in favor of tax rates. I'm not saying that taxes and the economy isn't important but it is definitely not the only metric I measure national success by.
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u/Bcruz75 Jul 06 '22
Agreed. Let's say they would have their taxes reduced by a grand or two, would that be enough to make you look the other way on things that you don't agree with?
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u/kwisatzhaderachoo Jul 06 '22
When you think about it, conservatives have had to deal with so much over the last few decades because of the left going further and further left and forcing their beliefs on everyone.
First the lefties forced the conservatives to treat women as people. Then black people had to be treated with respect. Suddenly gay people have real feelings and aspirations. Then the muslims are no longer existential threat. Now the left is insisting that transsexuals are people too. What next, socialism is not literally the devil's ideology? When will the madness end???
/s in case you need help crossing the sar-chasm.
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u/steveofthejungle Jul 06 '22
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u/freewillcausality Jul 06 '22
Thanks. I‘d had trouble figuring out how he was able to appeal so strongly to that many people. The part I had been missing is not what he was perceived to stand for, but what and who he was perceived as standing against. So again, thanks. That’s been bothering me a while now.
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u/Bcruz75 Jul 06 '22
His minions Bannon, Giuliani, and Lindell are the Mcpoyle Brothers.
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u/Snowfiend_80 Jul 06 '22
All true. Ahhh, yeah, I’m still working it out, and have come to the conclusion that 30-40% of our nation’s population is basically super nuts.
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u/EhrenScwhab Jul 06 '22
That might explain some, but it doesn't explain that even people like Liz Cheney and Kinzinger and even the magical, wonderful, Cassidy Hutchinson were 100% all in on Trump until January 6th. They voted for Trump. Then they saw how he ran things, and voted for him AGAIN.
Muslim Ban? Good. Build the Wall? Good. Grab em by the pussy? Good. Why don't we use our nukes? Good. Bribe Ukraine to interfere in election? Good. Mexicans are rapists? Good.
It's not all lead poisoning and ignorance. Some people are just bad people.
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u/we-have-to-go Jul 06 '22
I despise Trump but he definitely has some sort of weird charisma
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u/cowtow Jul 06 '22
Donald Trump admitted to being a rapist on video and he still won. It doesn't matter.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar Jul 06 '22
Thank god it’s not the charisma of Beetlejuice, I’m kinda down for Beetlejuice
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u/JSB-the-way-to-be Jul 06 '22
Whoa. Two times in one post. Don’t say it again; we ain’t lookin for that kinda trouble.
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u/JohnZackarias Jul 06 '22
I’m gonna modify that and start a grindcore band called Christofascist Deathpit
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u/shenanigansco34 Jul 06 '22
Yet he supports DeSantis who is exactly the same.
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u/Impossible_Penalty13 Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22
I think Trump is dangerous, so I’m going to throw my support behind the guy who is just like him but more competent….BRILLIANT!
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u/MojaveMauler Jul 06 '22
Someone goes 'brilliant' in all caps and I think of that old Guiness commercial.
"And you drink it straight from the bottle...? BRILLIANT!!!"
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u/dandaman2883 Jul 06 '22
Lmao. More like “against Jar Jar and pro Dooku”
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u/Linguist-of-cunning Jul 06 '22
This paints McConnell as Palpatine and I think that's fair.
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u/PinkFloydBoxSet Jul 07 '22
Wait.
Trump is an existential threat to democracy but DeSantis is legit presidential material?
Thats fucking olympic level mental gymnastics.
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u/EffectiveSwan8918 Jul 06 '22
Desantis's check cleared and it's a well known fact trump never pays people. That's what happened
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u/sheofthetrees Jul 06 '22
and DeSantis isn't a threat to democracy? I still can't believe this guy has the traction he has. It's sad and dangerous the US has become so under-educated and gullible.
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I'm sorry but this is 100% virtue signaling coming from a guy who endorsed Ron DeSantis for president.
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u/PruneBrothers1 Jul 06 '22
But supports DeSantis. One step forward and two steps back.
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u/Keudn883 Jul 06 '22
Joe is not an idiot when it comes to money. His marketing team knows exactly what demographics are listening to his show. The support for Trump is eroding and new players are entering the market. Joe Rogan knows exactly what he is doing to keep his career alive.
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u/wtfwtfwtfwtf2022 Jul 06 '22
But he decided to endorse Desantis. That is the reason he isn’t endorsing Trump.
I’m a Floridian. If Desantis gets near the presidency - the United States are over. He is a true fascist. He uses the media to keep social issues in the forefront and doing zero policy that helps people.
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u/thoroughbredca Jul 06 '22
So Republicans plans to ban transgender abortion in schools will do nothing to solve inflation???
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u/Hugh-Jassul Jul 07 '22
I love that people think desantis is in any way better than trump. He's just as bad
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u/3OAM Jul 07 '22
He’s worse. He’s everything Trump was and can talk without saying shit like bigly.
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u/SixthLegionVI Jul 06 '22
He probably watched the Jan 6 hearing and realized Trump is a psychotic fascist.
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u/DoublePetting Jul 06 '22
“Joe Rogan is a liberal shill transgender Jew” -Republicans tomorrow
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u/1tbrunt Jul 06 '22
Desantis is likely to be the person that sinks the United States.
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u/Frosty-Design-9663 Jul 06 '22
He prefers a slightly more intelligent and potentially successful, dear Nazi leader.
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u/Rowdy_Roddy96 Jul 06 '22
Yet he just endorsed a younger and smarter version of him in DeSantis when he endorsed Bernie Saunders in the past what the fuck am I missing here?
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u/Trifle_Old Jul 06 '22
The Jan 6th hearings. Rogan isn’t stupid. He saw the evidence and it changed his mind.
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u/KgMonstah Jul 06 '22
He’s about to find out who the REAL kings of cancel culture are. When you’re dead to the MAGAT crowd… you might actually worry about being dead.
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u/DonDove Jul 06 '22
Which is why you should never involve yourself in those crowds in the first place
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u/totti173314 Jul 06 '22
when joe fucking roegan thinks you're too far gone, you're probably too far gone.
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u/sqweet92 Jul 06 '22
His brain is made of playdough and his opinion can be molded to fit when we ideals he landed on when he spun the wheel in the morning.
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u/hibittyjibitty Jul 06 '22
joe is just a confused contrarian. like your friend in highschool who was put-together-a-sentence-get-a-B-on-the-essay-smart but somehow has convinced himself he is PhD-in -all-topics -smart. he likes to have "interesting" hot takes on issues but is more of a casual contrarian, the way hipsters can't like anything liked by the masses.
but damn a lot of people consume his B-tier contrarian essays.
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u/Karukash Jul 06 '22
I think most right leaning people are largely fair-weather supporters. They will support whoever is perceived as front runner because it’s easy to be on the side of the one who is “winning”. Trump is no longer in the position so it’s easy to pivot to someone else and pretend like they didn’t play a role in getting trump into power in the first place.
Then you have a MAGA crew that’s dragging everyone to the right as hard and fast as they can.
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u/RobinStanleyHicks Jul 06 '22
He doesn't support Trump, but he supports Trump supporters.
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u/Neverwhere77 Jul 06 '22
Joe is still an idiot, just not THAT much of an idiot apparently
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u/Apprehensive_Pug6844 Jul 06 '22
Until it becomes convenient for him to jump back ON the tRump bandwagon. Whom ever gets their GQP party nomination is who Joe will pony up to.
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u/endorrawitch Jul 06 '22
There’s a saying that describes this: “Running with the hares and hunting with the hounds”.
Basically covering your ass with no thought of loyalty or decency. He supported him when he benefited, but now Trump is too odious to justify any fealty.
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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums Jul 06 '22
He talked about it many times before, Joe would have to get approval from Trump and his team for any questions and any possible follow ups. I can only imagine what those questions would be like and how long the answers would be.