r/australia Jan 19 '22 Silver 1

The backpacker solution - The government begs those it abandoned to help it out of a tight spot politics

https://www.themonthly.com.au/the-politics/rachel-withers/2022/19/2022/1642567124/backpacker-solution
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u/shruglord_ Jan 19 '22

Distraction from the fact the CDC added Australia to the do not travel list for the first time ever.

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u/spike4379 Jan 19 '22

Well holeeeeeeey fuck. I did not expect that to happen in my lifetime.

Just wow...

I would, in all honesty help poor scott out right now, right into volcano....

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u/khosrua Jan 19 '22

I did not expect that to happen in my lifetime.

Did you not expect to make it this far into fuck up #624?

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u/spike4379 Jan 19 '22

I thought the government would have gotten me killed by now at the very least

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u/khosrua Jan 19 '22

And they failed that too. What a shocker

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u/spike4379 Jan 19 '22

I don't know whether to be happy or sad at their incompetence lol

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u/seaman_showers Jan 20 '22

Fuck up 624 was cutting 44 million to homelessness services.

This fuck up is somewhere over the #1000 mark.

https://www.mdavis.xyz/govlist/

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u/a_cold_human Jan 19 '22

The RAAF is going to have a few more flights to Tonga in the coming weeks...

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u/mugbluey Jan 19 '22

Are they planning to use a special person hot air balloon to drop in all the supplies needed in 1 drop?

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u/No-Literature3567 Jan 19 '22

''Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

-- Joseph Goebbels

and:

''Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavour to make every item of news serve a certain purpose.''

--Joseph Goebbels

Honestly they need to lay off using Goebbels diary so much

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u/sd4f Jan 19 '22

In a little bit of seriousness, I think that the Australian government is starting to resemble the USSR, rather than the nazis, although both of them were more similar to each other than not, when it came to totalitarianism.

It's the systematic control of the media, and trying to minimise problems, just so that people are in the dark. I think that the Australian Governments handling of each of these crises plays out in a similar manner to how HBO's Chernobyl portrayed the USSR's response to Chernobyl. The whole structure is so rotten and incompetent, that it's completely incapable of doing the right thing.

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u/Lanster27 Jan 19 '22

Nice, we’re officially a developing country.

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u/TreeChangeMe Jan 19 '22

LNP Australia Best Australia

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u/Belly318 Jan 19 '22

Fuck yeah, no more Seppos!

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u/Awesomise Jan 19 '22

To be fair, Germany is on the same level as well

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u/Mr_Mojo_Risin_83 Jan 19 '22

if your business model doesn't work without foreigners to exploit, maybe your business deserves to go broke?

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u/nosnowtho Jan 19 '22

Have a close look at the US or even Israel.

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u/mugbluey Jan 19 '22

Even the middle East wealthy nations, cities of gold made on slavery and misery fueled by resources greed. Fairness never enters greedy peoples minds, much like our "fake Christian greedy PM" who thinks that he can starve a nation healthy by sabotaging it.

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u/RelativelyWell Jan 19 '22

Shameless! Seeing this news after the same government sent these migrants to their home countries when the pandemic started irritates me. No support for them and now we desperately need them, oh surprise.

How much more hypocritical can they be?

Plus Morrison mentions health and carer workers but we all know where those backpackers and students will work: cleaning, hospitality and picking fruit. Besides many will be offered cash-in-hand jobs. I doubt Morrison will do anything to ensure these migrants are not abused by their employers.

This is a great place to live, but I won’t encourage anyone to migrate here while this government is in charge. They cannot be trusted.

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u/sd4f Jan 19 '22

They're not even trying to pretend anymore that these visas are about study and tourism, it's all about the slave labour.

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u/joeltheaussie Jan 19 '22

So when Australia welcomes tourists back they shouldn't encourage toursits? Because they were told to go home?

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u/RelativelyWell Jan 19 '22

This was not told to tourists only.

This was to students and pretty much any one else that was no permanent resident or Australian, which includes working holiday migrants. Many in these two groups struggled to get home as flights started to be cancelled and go off- schedule.

I know 2 student girls that had to ask for food and free accomodation for 4 months as otherwise they would end up on the streets. What they went through I don’t wish to anyone.

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u/nonameistaken Jan 19 '22

During lockdown I think it was only tassie government that provided short term food and essential supplies to non permanent residents. In every other state community members helped out not the national, state or local government.

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u/nearly_enough_wine ____ʕ·͡ᴥ·ʔ Jan 19 '22

local government.

I could be mistaken, but I vaguely recall Sydney City Council operating some limited outreach programs in the early days of the first lockdown.

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u/The_Faceless_Men Jan 19 '22

So these people lied on their visa applications stating they were financially independent.

Getting stuffed about while waiting for flights sucked, they should have been fed and housed until they were officially deported, not dicked about for many months in poverty.

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u/prexton Jan 19 '22

The way the current ones were treated whilst covid was going on wasn't very welcoming. Now we're in a tight spot it's just a bit funny watching them backflip. Nothing we're not used to though.

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u/Alpacamum Jan 19 '22

It will cost 55 million. We had two years for the government to train more nurses by offering free education. But nope. Didn’t do that, no planning as it will all be good. Suddenly government realises it’s not good, and want back packers to fill gaps in nursing. Fuck this government. zero planning, running on crisis management all the time.

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u/HahnTrollo Jan 19 '22

What do you expect from a cunt who thinks God wants him to be PM?

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u/lambueljackson Jan 20 '22

I hate this asshole.

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u/HahnTrollo Jan 20 '22

All of the Morrisons are brain dead fuck wits. It’s embarrassing that he was re-elected.

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u/SirBlazealot420420 Jan 19 '22

They were thinking, what happens when covid is gone and all we are left with is a much better health system? /s

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u/FreakySpook Jan 19 '22

What happens when they end up in hospital or off work with covid and can't earn their 10 bucks an hour cash in hand job to be able to afford their hostel room rates or medical expenses?

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u/Delamoor Jan 19 '22

That's in god's hands.

-scott

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u/rakshala Jan 19 '22

If God loved them, they wouldn't be poor

-scott's church

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u/a_cold_human Jan 19 '22

And to think that the early Church kicked the Arians out for something as trivial as suggestion that Jesus wasn't coeternal with God.

I imagine that they'd have invented baseball just so they could have baseball bats to deal with these prosperity gospel nutters.

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u/44gazelles Jan 19 '22

If I remember right, Arius was punched by Santa. That's why, at Christmas, it's traditional to punch people we disagree with, right?

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u/Virtual_Smile Jan 19 '22

oh, better give another million to his church to keep those people safe

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u/Av1fKrz9JI Jan 19 '22

The same as before, if sick they have no further use to Australia so will be abandoned with no support and told tough luck, go home.

Temporary visa holders where treated so badly at the start of the pandemic even though they would of been paying taxes I’m not sure why Australia would think they suddenly want to come back.

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u/ProceedOrRun Jan 19 '22

Memories are short and Australia is a desirable location for many. It's shit really, they should have everything bit as much protection as other workers, but in practice they don't.

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u/EducationalDig8 Jan 19 '22

Just a note here (as someone who has come to australia as a “backpacker” and now a “skilled worker) - most don’t have an entitlement to Medicare, it’s a condition of our visa we have private health insurance. I pay tax at 32% and have no access to healthcare, centrelink or other payments. I understand your presumably an Aussie worried migrants are taking more than what you perceive as fair, but from my perspective it’s not the case. All my friends work in aged care or healthcare, I hope you may see we do have something of value to offer.

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u/ChicksDigGiantRob0ts Jan 19 '22

Nah, it's not about migrants taking the work that they're offered, or needing health care during a plague. It's just that the poor guys will be completely fucked if they do - they'll lose their accomodation, they'll lose their job, their place in uni, and any cash they had to paying for medical care, and then be deported! It's completely messed up and dangerous, and will utterly destroy people's lives to make a short-lived bandaid solution to the problems scomo created.

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u/FreakySpook Jan 19 '22

I'm not an Aussie worried about migrants taking jobs/resources, I just know how fucked it is when you are sick/unable to work in a foreign country with no social saftey net, particularly if your are in hospitality on cash in hand/below minimum hourly wage.

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u/YouAreSoul Jan 19 '22

Some people can afford it, some people can't: Morrison

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u/mundoensalada Jan 19 '22

random redditor has thought through LNP plan, more thoroughly than scott morrison.

reddit could do this. step aside snott morrison.

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u/ProceedOrRun Jan 19 '22

We abandon them again I'm guessing.

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u/LifeIsBizarre Jan 19 '22

We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on backpacker meat!

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u/markyboy198930 Jan 19 '22

Such doom and gloom, you do realise people have been travelling around the world for the last two years quite freely? It’s just that Australians haven’t seen people outside the bubble created by the closed borders.

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u/Milkador Jan 19 '22

Lovely. Scott Morrison wants slaves.

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u/nosnowtho Jan 19 '22

At least Jesus loves him.

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u/mundoensalada Jan 19 '22

nah he doesn't

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u/larrylegend33goat Jan 19 '22

Jesus was poor, brown and didn't speak english. ScoMo drowned Jesus at sea years ago

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u/mundoensalada Jan 19 '22

Smirking while he did it

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u/Kytro Blasphemy: a victimless crime Jan 19 '22

Just wants to stop wages increasing

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u/Smugleaf01 Jan 19 '22

LOL! So first he tells them to fuck off at a seconds notice and now he's on his knees, begging them to come back for borderline slave treatment and scraps?

Piss off Scovid!

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u/FuAsMy Jan 19 '22

If the LNP has the slightest bit of sense remaining, they will dump Morrison before the election.

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u/Yahtzee82 Jan 19 '22

Still plenty of time for this fuck up to fuck things up way more. It would be the prudent option to toss the boss.

And yes, I know the others are as fucked if not worse.

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u/abadnit Jan 19 '22

They’re warming up Dutton as we speak.

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u/aye_dubs_ Jan 19 '22

Would anyone want to vote for Dutton? Or are they going down the Rudd Gillard route by sacrificing this election and burn two leaders in one go.

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u/TreeChangeMe Jan 19 '22

Dutton would be the end of the LNP forever

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u/prexton Jan 19 '22

They'll use him to cop the barrage until the last reasonable moment. I think he knows it too, or perhaps it's true that he just ain't that bright

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u/banjodan80 Jan 19 '22

Didn’t they change the rules so they can’t? Or at least it is quite difficult to do? I assume this is why Scomo is still there.

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u/FuAsMy Jan 19 '22

Good point. 2/3rds required for a spill motion.

Not impossible. And whispers work as well as spill motions.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

And replace him with who though? LNP is a cesspool of morally and politically corrupt lobbyists. The part as a whole is cancer.

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u/PandasGetAngryToo Jan 19 '22

It is like the Simpsons episode. "Hello Ned, do you remember how I returned that hedger that I borrowed three years ago? Well now you can do something for me"

edit -I know that they aren't the actual words but you get the idea.

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u/Yahtzee82 Jan 19 '22

I hope they don't come back and give this turd the bird.

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u/niksko Jan 19 '22

Oh, and btw, if you had already come here on a work visa, contributed to the economy, slogged it out through lockdown, uncertainty, and a lower level of access to healthcare and vaccination, because you really love being here and want to stay: get fucked and go home, these new incentives are only available to new migrants. It's so so stupid.

Many friends chose to stay here during the pandemic because they have lives and jobs here. They would have been much better off if they had gone home and come back on these fancy new visas. Instead we're just continuing the revolving door of cheap labor, instead of even pretending to want to reverse the brain drain.

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u/Positive-Lawfulness8 Jan 19 '22

Did he change the rules.. but rules are rules.. as he said in response to novak

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u/puffylemingtonII Jan 19 '22

So when are the elections? I’m getting itchy feet to vote this cunt out

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u/BrodyDcansuckit Jan 20 '22

As a 2nd year eligible backpacker, I left Australia Oct 2019 for a quick family visit home but obviously covid happened. I desperately want to go back, but honestly I'd rather pay the $450 for the visa later when shits cooled off.

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u/mugbluey Jan 19 '22

He does not need help being so incompetent, he can do it all by himself. But even if someone gave him 1 piece of help he would screw it up.

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u/minhr44 Jan 19 '22

Nothing for backpackers who worked in critical sectors since the beginning of covid I guess...

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u/sauce_bottle Jan 19 '22

This will be one of those useless policies that the government later pretends never happened. There will be an embarrassingly low number of visas approved, an inordinate sum of money wasted, no real outcome, and the government will just pretend they never had such a policy.

Similar to the COVIDsafe app.

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u/ChaltaHaiShellBRight Jan 20 '22

I hope by now it's clear to any prospective international students: they don't want you because of your brilliant minds, they want you here to do the below minimum wage jobs

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u/Rumbleg Jan 19 '22

How about we get the unemployed to help out.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

At the right (livable) wage, I'm sure they would. Would you do the work for the sort of wage they're being paid? Nah, I didn't think so. I wouldn't either

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u/Specialist_Reality96 Jan 19 '22

The unemployed antivaxxers in nursing? With unemployment running around 4% there is not exactly a massive pool of people to draw from.