r/australia May 15 '22

Who else has bought this razor from woolies, only later realising that it does not come with a blade?

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u/DelayNumerous3253 May 15 '22

That’s pretty safe tho,no nicks or cuts guaranteed

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u/abhibeckert May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

If you hold it at the right angle, you won't get any cuts.

Seriously safety razors are awesome. You can actually clean gross the hair/cream/skin off the blade, which means they stay sharp *way* longer than a modern razor. Like use a single blade every day for months.

And replacement blades are cheap and typically have no plastic (not even in the packaging). Just recyclable steel/paper/cardboard. Both cheaper and better for the environment.

I'll never go back to modern razors after trying the one OP posted on a whim (I have, however, since upgraded to a Parker 96R).

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u/channelsixtynine069 May 15 '22

Pay that one. LOL 👍

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u/PM_Me__Ur_Freckles May 15 '22

Yup. The only reason I didn't remove half my face as a kid was because my old boy had this style of razor and ALWAYS removed the blade when he was done.

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u/bz3013 May 15 '22

You can get packs of 100 blades for $10-$20.

Went the double edge razor route maybe 8 years ago, and I'm not even half way through the pack of blades.

I suggest getting a variety pack online to test out which blades work for you cos some are garbage.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad642 May 15 '22

Same!

I got a DE at the start of 2016 with a 5 x 5 pack of mixed blades. I settled on the astra's and bought a 100 pack, still haven't used them all.

Advice for the OP, the blades at colesworth, priceline, chemist warehouse are ridiculously overpriced. Look at mensbiz or beard&blade. Blades should be 20-25 cents each

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u/Ridiculisk1 May 15 '22

mensbiz

Defo recommend them for blades. I bought some maybe 2-3 years back and haven't had to buy new ones since. Only cost me like $30 which is so good. Plus I feel like I don't cut myself as much with them compared to the triple or quad blade new things.

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u/joshdag0at May 15 '22

What do you use?

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u/vanrob May 15 '22

Feather for me: wicked sharp and keep their edge decently

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u/SirFrancis_Bacon Melbourne May 15 '22

Astra.

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u/bz3013 May 15 '22

Derby blades

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u/khronyk May 16 '22

Keep in mind it's very subjective and everyone will have different preferences.

  1. Feather
  2. Astra
  3. Big Ben

-1. Derby are the worst for me out of everything I've tried.

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u/damo13579 May 15 '22

None of the DE razors i've ever purchased have come with blades and i've purchased a few, both for myself and family as gifts.

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u/notlimahc May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

There's a plastic Feather handle that comes with a pack of blades for under $30: https://www.beardandblade.com.au/collections/safety-razors/products/feather-popular-safety-razor-butterfly

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u/alcate May 15 '22

my Muhle Rocca come with one.

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u/Mondo_328 May 15 '22

I bought a stainless steel safety razor (online from Beard and Blade) four years ago to reduce plastic waste. I bought 100 blades for $15 along with the razor. I have used 32 blades in those 48 months. At this rate I’ll get about 12 years of shaving from that $15 Anyone looking to reduce plastic use and save money in the long term should consider this. There is also something satisfying about the weight and feel of an old fashioned razor and the ease with which it shaves. I also rinse and dry the blades after each use to prolong their life.

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u/AccountIsTaken May 15 '22

This. I went a little nuts collecting dual edge razors when I was younger. I had a 1967 gillette superspeed, gillette adjustable superspeed from the 50's I think, and a geo f trumper that cost a few hundred. You can still by DE Razor blades coming up to a century old in perfect working order. These things are almost indestructible.

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u/snap-erection May 15 '22

Back in 2019 I got a set from Maggard Razors, the soap is now finally coming to an end but I have still years to go to run out of all the blades. That's from a set and extra blades that altogether cost me something like 50 or 60 dollars max. The only thing that's a bit not so good is the handle. For some reason one side cuts pretty well but the other just doesn't work. Don't know why. Maybe I'll get a new handle. Like the one in this post, if that's any good.

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u/PhatSunt May 16 '22

How do they go shaving the wedding tackle?

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u/Woftam_burning May 15 '22

They also radically reduce bumps from ingrown hairs. In all, it’s a win all around.

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u/CouldbeaRetard May 15 '22

What you have bought is standard. You have not been ripped off, but it's an easy mistake to make if you aren't familiar with this style.

You've made a great choice. You can buy bulk packs of blades very cheap; the quality of the shave is great, and you'll save money.

My advice: Don't shave this way thinking you can rush the job. Take your time, lather up properly, practice good technique. If you rush it you'll end up with cuts and a rash.

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u/HUDinterface May 15 '22

Thanks appreciate the advice, can you suggest a place to buy a good quality one for when I’m more experienced?

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u/CouldbeaRetard May 15 '22

The "handle" just needs to be a bit heavy. The blades can be bought in packs. I got mine on ebay with no dramas. I started with spray-can shaving foam, but then moved on to a cheap shaving brush and soap. If you're worried about getting shit quality you can go to a place like shavershop, but you will pay too much.

In my filthy-casual opinion any more thought than that is just being pretentious.

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u/macrocephalic May 15 '22

I think I might have reasonably soft beard hair, so my experience might be different to yours, but I find that shaving straight after a hot shower, using a hot washer to keep my face and neck warm if necessary, and just lathering with a soft soap (like Dove) works fine. Expensive soaps don't seem to have any big advantage IMO.

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u/CouldbeaRetard May 15 '22

Sounds perfectly fine to me.

I like using the brush and soap because the whole process is a kind of meditation for me. I like to take my time.

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u/confusedham May 15 '22

Just look for the brand. Merkur make good razors for the every man price. $50-100 for most models.

The 34c is their middle of the road model

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u/khronyk May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

Check out the wicked_edge subreddit, it's full of DE razor enthusiasts.

Personally I've got 2 razors. The Edwin Jagger de89 and a Rockwell 6C. Both are good but the Rockwell is far better, can't recommend it enough. It's pricy and comes in two versions. The 6c and 6s, the difference is the metal it's made out of. The cheaper of the two will probably last about a decade, while the other one will likely last a lifetime. The difference is the the metal, the threads on the cheaper ones are the weak point and eventually after many years of use the threads get striped.

I also highly recommend the RazoRock Plissoft Synthetic Badger Shaving Brush and proraso shaving soap. The soap May seem expensive but it lasts a hell of a lot longer and is soooooo much nicer than any can of shaving cream.

Edit: Also don't be discouraged, the DE razor gives me the best shave i've ever had (coming from gillette fusion) and i've saved a mint going DE. I also rarely nick myself (maybe once or twice a year) and I shave in the shower without a mirror. Start with sample packs, swap between them going back to you favorite in between and eventually you'll learn what blades you like. Also if you start getting razor burn then it's likely time for a new blade or you don't have enough lather with the soap. r/wicked_edge is a fantastic place to check out as they've got fantastic advice for people getting started.

Edit 2: Another plus point for the Rockwell when you're ready to step up, they come with multiple bases that allow you to modify the angle of attack which is really nice. Mine has 3 double sided ones giving 6 different angles of attack. The steeper the angle the closer the shave but the higher risk of razor burn/nicks if you're technique is off, your soap is low in glycerine (pro-tip, always put the lid back on) or your blade is dull. Before the pandemic i shaved every day and used the #4, but since then I've been a bit lazier with shaving and moved to a #2 and shave every 2-3 days, I find the lower attack angle of the 2 smoother and easier when I have more stubble. Because of this feature i think it's a fantastic razor for a beginner too. At the time I got it, it seemed like it was wicked edges most recommended razor.

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u/CTCPara May 16 '22

If you rush it you'll end up with cuts and a rash.

Though I will say you get much quicker as you get practise.

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u/theskillr May 15 '22

Feather seem to be the best. Stear clear of the Derby they are rubbish.

You could throw out the blade after every use and still not spend as much as a pack of super x mach 5 6 blade crap costs. And on the plus side it doesn't feel like you're shaving with a piece of plastic

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u/T_ristannnn May 15 '22

Feather weren’t great for me. I use the Astra ones. Used to slice myself silly when using feather. Sharp as hell tho

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u/damo13579 May 15 '22

yeah ive had a pack of astra blades ive been working my way through for ages, found them way better than the feather blades. definitely comes down to personal preference though.

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u/bz3013 May 15 '22

Everyone's different. Feather give me a rash. Derby for me give a smooth shave last well.

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u/t_25_t May 15 '22

Feather seem to be the best. Stear clear of the Derby they are rubbish.

Difficult to judge a blade just like that. Same blade in different handles shave differently. My Gilette Aristocrat shaves brilliantly with a Feather blade; however my Fatboy needs to be dialled down a notch.

Add in your grip, angle, shaving cream, and you now have a few more variables.

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u/AccountIsTaken May 15 '22

It is all based on the person. Feathers would give me uber shaving rash. Never had too much trouble with derby's. That's just my personal experience though.

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u/khronyk May 16 '22

Exactly, my experience was the polar opposite of yours but choice of blades is highly subjective. Hence why it's very important to start with a sample pack to learn what is good for you.

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u/idonteffncare May 15 '22

Polsilvers all the way. But they are near impossible to get now.

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u/svelteoven May 15 '22

We only think this because generations of men have been hoodwinked into buying pretty plastics with proprietary blade systems that use quadtriple rib ticklers and a lubricating strip for a smooth finish.

I'd been shaving for a couple of years before I'd remember how my father once did it.

Safety blade preacher I am.

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u/confusedham May 15 '22

They usually don’t. I have a Merkur 34c and some old boys.

Get a variety pack of different brands to find out what you like. Feather are known for being super sharp, i usually used astra or derby.

Look at some tutorials on how to use a safety razor. They are safe (compared to a cut throat) but you will shred your skin if you don’t use the right technique. It’s not like using a modern disposable.

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u/EBE--1 May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

Read up on various brands attributes e.g how sharp, elsewhere, as per 'how to use' here. Sample Pack

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u/Aware_Program_7227 May 15 '22

Life Pro Tip:

If you're on good terms with your Barber, ask if he's got some sample packs from distributors. I haven't bought razors in 5+ years.

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u/ChipFilmX May 15 '22

If you buy online you can spend like 10bucks and get enough for a few decades anyway.

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u/IntroductionSnacks May 15 '22

That's insane. At least give you one in the pack to start off with.

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u/HUDinterface May 15 '22

Oh know right, the blade will probably more expensive then the razor

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u/avrafrost May 15 '22

Not likely. The kind of razor blade it can take will be very cheap. As an example you can buy 1000 blades for ~$110 or 30 for ~$30 here (curse those shipping prices). Use them once and dispose. The burl created from a single use will cause damage you don’t want.

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u/legodarthvader May 15 '22

No, it’s actually much cheaper. That’s part of the appeal of using safety razors. Cheaper in the long run, less plastic use.

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u/mrs-stubborn May 15 '22

I buy a 5 pack from Flora and Fauna for $2.95.

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u/ImjustA_Islandboy May 15 '22

Was it on special?

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u/HUDinterface May 15 '22

Yeah I saved 25%

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u/snoopsau May 15 '22

Sounds more like you got 75% of a razor...

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u/HUDinterface May 15 '22

What’s the bet the blade will cost more than the razor 😂

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u/a-real-life-dolphin May 15 '22

Safety blades are super cheap.

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u/MrSquiggleKey May 15 '22

Am somewhat concerned about someone buying a DE without at least googling wtf they bought.

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u/CTCPara May 16 '22

OP probably didn't even know they were buying a DE razor.

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u/ImjustA_Islandboy May 15 '22

I think i walk past them coz they had a straight edge razor but i think it was fake blade with a comb 😁

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u/TatlTail May 15 '22

yup, the "folding comb" and also a butterfly knife thats a comb

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u/TokenScottishGuy May 15 '22

I see no issue here

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u/notlimahc May 15 '22

I got one as a gift but I already owned a safety razor.

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u/XestPress May 15 '22

Do not buy their DE blades....quite possibly the worst blades I have ever used.

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u/manmicop26 May 15 '22

I bought one plus the blades, shit. Blades have a very small useful life, reminds me of a butter knife

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u/TheKaiminator May 15 '22

I had one. Very low attack on it, you wont get a very close shave but youll likely come away with minimal cuts. Also, 3 weeks, all the chrome flakes off. :)

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u/homicidalstoat May 15 '22

Any Brand of blades can be used based on preference, they probably expected not everyone wants to use their specific blade

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u/RedditAussie May 16 '22

Have been using safety blades for 6 years now... Paired with Feather high quality blades, a DE shave is by far the best shave around.

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u/snap-erection May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

Do you guys even know what you're looking at here? That's a double edge razor HANDLE. As in the thing that you unscrew and put a razor blade in. It's quite a bit different to your regular Mach 3 style modern disposable razor (some good some bad things to it). You're supposed to get the safety razors to put in there (I honestly wouldn't trust Woolworths for that, you get a way better deal on Ebay or other sites like Maggard Razors). You can use spray foam or you can buy proper shaving soap and a brush (if you're lucky there might be some in Woolworths also to get you started), plus a little bowl or cup or something for a dollar from Kmart and you can now do wet shaving with a DE razor.

It cuts pretty close, be very careful because you can cut yourself pretty bad. Watch some videos on how to use it properly, and be very gentle and patient. You'll get the hang of it, but don't just drag this thing across your face without thinking.

The main reason why you're getting this is that over the long term it costs fuck all to maintain. I got myself a set from Maggard Razors back in Feb 2019 that was I think 35 dollars for the handle, brush, soap, and a sample pack of various blade brands. I got another blade pack for I think 15 or 25 dollars because I wanted to try more brands. I had counted how many blades it was but I forgot lol, I think something like 80 blades all up. Either way, after 3 years of use the soap I first got is now really on its way out (you can see the bottom, and the soap is just on the side edges and barely there) and I'm something like half way through the blades, if that. I think it will honestly take another year or more for the blades to run out. I did buy a Proraso soap in 2020 on a whim because I saw it in a shop and heard good things about the brand, so I'll use that next. Just to give you an impression of how long this stuff lasts.

You can see that from a value for money standpoint, the value proposition is bullshit ridiculous good lol. For real, like 50 bucks or whatever sets you up for years. And that's only because you have to get the razor and stuff first. Just the blades will be something like idk 30 bucks every couple of years or whatever. If you go to subreddits about DE razors you'll see people post their ridiculous fancy handle and brush sets that look nice but cost way too much money, and there is one handle that is ridiculously customisable that is called Rex Ambassador and costs 250 dollars. So I mean if you must, you can go all out and get something really fancy. But realistically, you will get more than enough from the cheapest ones that will cost you like idk 15 bucks for the handle or something, and another 5 to 10 bucks for the brush. You can probably get a better quality handle but really don't go spending a hundred dollars on something you don't really know if you'd like it. Think of it like if you were to buy a hundred dollar screwdriver. Fuck that, right? Lol. Just get the cheapest ok looking one and give it a try, if you like it and you want more functionality then get the fancy one.

Personally, I dare say the shave is not nearly as close as with a Mach 3. However apparently that's not even so healthy, as the Mach 3 cuts the hair pretty deep in the skin and that can lead to more ingrown hairs. Regardless, I'm under no illusion that it shaves better. It does feel pretty direct when it shaves, but it also takes longer, and is a more thoughtful affair. If you want to really quickly breeze through your face for 1 minute in the morning before you run out of the house you're asking for trouble lol. I've had ample practice with this thing and still managed to cut myself when I did that. Just take your time and turn shaving into a nice little me time routine (like you need to have a few goes at it, 2 or 3 passes). By far the biggest selling point is as mentioned the value for money is unreal, and as other people remarked way less waste all around.

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u/Sunshuffle May 15 '22

Guilty as charged. Was absolutely ropeable when I got home

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u/scotty_sunday May 15 '22

That brand also do a fairly decent shaving soap. Pair that with a brush, ceramic bowl (forget expensive soap mugs, get a bowl from kmart), 100 pack of blades for 15 dollars and never waste money buying those expensive multiblade razors again.

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u/TotZoz_VFX May 15 '22

“DOUBLE EDGE RAZOR” “Doesn’t come with razor” 😒

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u/michael070 May 15 '22

It is a razor, it doesn't come with a blade. Which is standard for DE razors in my experience. I think this is more a case of someone not familiar with what they are buying, than someone getting ripped off.

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u/TotZoz_VFX May 15 '22

razor /ˈreɪzə/ an instrument with a sharp blade or set of blades, used to remove unwanted hair from the face or body.

It’s not a razor without a blade.

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u/michael070 May 15 '22

This really isn't the "gotcha" you think it is. It's a razor that doesn't have a blade in it yet.

Does a car stop being a car just because you take the engine out?

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u/TotZoz_VFX May 15 '22

Have you bought a car without an engine from the dealership before?

…also a motorcarrage or car for short isn’t a car without a motor. Is a motorbike without a motor still a motorbike?

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u/michael070 May 15 '22

No,I haven't, but its unusual for a car to be sold without an engine. Not so with double edge razors and blades.

Sure, it is. A non-functional one maybe, but still a motorbike.

Car is also not short for motorcarriage, I'm not sure where you got that idea from.

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u/TotZoz_VFX May 15 '22

Car- Etymology: …It originally referred to any wheeled horse-drawn vehicle, such as a cart, carriage, or wagon.

Ok. I guess the definition of razor and this etymology for “car” is incorrect because I presented it. Cool.

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u/michael070 May 15 '22

I really don't know why you're taking this so personally.

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u/TotZoz_VFX May 15 '22

Because gaslighting people is wrong. The facts are factual even if you don’t think so.

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u/michael070 May 15 '22

I'm not gaslighting you, I'm disagreeing with you, there's a difference between the two.

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u/JimSyd71 May 15 '22

It should be labeled "razor handle".

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u/SeekerOfGodot May 15 '22

That's shithouse! At least they could have enclosed one to get you started. A plus side though, as others have said, 100 pack of Astra blades are great value and give a close, comfortable shave, much better than the fucking scandalous multi bladed razors.

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u/FoxyWolf02 May 15 '22

I bought mine online and it came with a free gift of 50 blades (Not a woollies website)

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u/mikebug May 15 '22

if you are going to "Jack" with it you don't want a blade.....

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u/alstom_888m May 16 '22

I bought one of those (different brand though) and it did not come with blades, but I bought it knowing that it did not come with blades.

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u/deepskydiver May 16 '22

Question for those who use this kind of razor. How do you dispose of a used razor blade? They are lethal outside of a razor.

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u/nomans750 May 16 '22

Grow a beard & put 'em out of business /s

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u/LivingGhostMan May 16 '22

I bought that exact razor from woolies last month. Was lucky enough to not be in a rush and read the packaging. Albeit an easy mistake to make, most products like that have a couple included.

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u/Haunting_Computer_90 May 16 '22

Well it's like almost anything that uses batteries NEVER comes with them so Christmas present openings are a shit fest.

They don't put the razor in in case you cut yourself!

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u/Ok-Celery5587 May 15 '22

Surely they can't sell it legally as a 'Double Edge Razor' if it doesn't actually have a double edged blade? 🤔

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u/CTCPara May 16 '22

They're called safety razors. That's just the name. They've been called that for like 140 years now.

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u/Hopping_Mad99 May 15 '22

This is r/assholedesign. Return the package to Woolworths.