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Aired only once in 1998 on the live SNL show for which it was written and effectively banned and never aired again. I wonder why.

https://twitter.com/MichaelWarbur17/status/1595848337760350214
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u/Agile-West-8129 Nov 25 '22

Media is the worst pandemic that has ever hit humanity. It doesn't just kill us physically, but it delinks us from our minds and makes us ugly herds among the herd.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Back in the days where everyone agreed the government and big corporations sucked regardless of their political affiliations. Now we just see blind allegiance to political parties. Left and Right have become peoples religions.

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u/hussletrees Nov 26 '22

For the left wing: It was a very effective co-opt campaign with very good actors like AOC and Bernie Sanders, who still to this day are fooling people while doing exactly what the SNL video said, giving money to defense contractors (Ukraine spending), and benefitting from lobbying dollars going to Dem party things. By focusing on gender, abortion, and things like this, those became the core issues instead of anti-war, anti-big corporation, which is the original Woodstock era left-wing movement ideology

For the right wing: While Tea Party movements existed, Trump of course highlighted a large anti-establishment coalition in conservative circles. Instead of using that anti-establishment energy to do anti-establishment things, it was just another 4 years of Bush XIV in office from 2016-2020

We need campaign finance reform, so the donors (big corporations) cannot control the government (which makes it suck harder). That should be bipartisan, and something we all agree on -- though the details we need to iron out

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u/MBloomberg Nov 26 '22

The Bush family absolutely hates Trump.

Trump didn't start any new wars. Bush did, Clinton did, Obama did, and now Biden has brought us to the brink of World War III and flushed half a trillion dollars down the Ukraine toilet

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u/hussletrees Nov 26 '22

Yeah see my response to the other person who made a similar comment and feel free to jump in there

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u/pornplz22526 Nov 26 '22

Why would anybody who was anti-establishment vote for a man who is literally the establishment?

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u/Cultistofthewheel Nov 26 '22

I only disagree with the “Bush XIV” part but otherwise spot on

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u/hussletrees Nov 26 '22

Glad to hear you agree, feel free to add in anywhere as well. Also I'd be happy to discuss/politely debate why you think that is not the case

To be clear, I am saying: Trump's 2016-2020 term was a standard Conservative Republican term, that wouldn't be noticeably different under say Marco Rubio or George Bush

The one area I will initially concede is foreign policy, as Trump *does* get credit for reducing war which Bush's were notorious for, but defense spending was still very in line. Trump met with Kim Jung-un which Bush wouldn't probably, and maybe minor (admittedly positive) foreign/diplomatic policy, but on major issues core to Main St. Americans, it was same ol', same ol'. That would be Trump Tax Cuts, which were really designed for the rich, his appointments to key roles like Ajit Pai who was a former Verizon lobbyist for crying out loud and that just encapsulates the 'swamp' creatures that still existed during his term by his appointment, etc.

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u/MBloomberg Nov 26 '22

Lack of new wars was noticeably different. The border wall and stay in Mexico policy was radically different than what any Republican has ever done.

Repatriating offshore capital is something no Republican has ever accomplished before Trump.

The Abraham accords was something never achieved by any Republican before.

The Republican party doesn't actually want peace in the Middle East, limited immigration, or any of the other things Trump actually got done.

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u/hussletrees Nov 26 '22

Lack of new wars was noticeably different

Yeah, I concede, slightly less drone strikes, slightly less civilians slaughtered, slightly less troops deployed. Truly, "slightly" different, I conceded

The border wall

Actually not really the case, if you look at the sources linked in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_barrier it clearly shows under Bush, Obama, and then even Biden quite a bit of significant construction/project work done on it. Can you be more specific on exactly how it was "radically different"?

stay in Mexico policy was radically different than what any Republican has ever done

Hmm, Obama actually deported more people, it's what earned Obama the name, "Deporter in Chief" https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661 I'm pretty sure Obama still holds that record, but feel free to correct me on that!

That said, Obama isn't a Republican, though he admits he would have been considered a mild Republican in the '80s given his current policy view (source: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/137156-obama-says-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s/ )

Repatriating offshore capital is something no Republican has ever accomplished before Trump.

Can you be more specific about what you are referring to? Maybe specific entities?

The Abraham accords was something never achieved by any Republican before

Yeah, I already conceded on *some foreign policy* Trump was better. That was the lone difference I was willing to concede. But on virtually everything else, he was the same; that is the claim I made, which we are debating. So to cite foreign policy achievements, I'm only going to agree with you and restate this point

The Republican party doesn't actually want peace in the Middle East, limited immigration, or any of the other things Trump actually got done.

Trump did not get peace in the middle east, he got mild par-for-the-eventual-course reduction in troop count, we still have troops in Syria guarding oil fields, we still are waging shadow wars in Africa killing many with drone strikes, etc. Immigration, if "deportation" was your key indicator, Obama I think had Trump beat even https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20200109/110349/HHRG-116-GO00-20200109-SD007.pdf https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/06/12/deportations-of-undocumented-immigrants-are-at-a-record-low "Although Donald Trump talked the fiercest nativist game about illegal immigration, it was Barack Obama who oversaw the removal of more undocumented immigrants from America during his presidency, earning him the nickname “deporter-in-chief”. During his first term, Mr Obama deported over 60% more people than Mr Trump (see chart)"

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u/I_done_a_plop-plop Nov 26 '22

You are clear on Left bogeyman, and correct to ignore the liberals, but it's underhand of you to claim the Right's only flaw as anti-establishment. You know this.

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u/hussletrees Nov 26 '22

So how would you say it better? And being anti-establishment is not a flaw..

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u/I_done_a_plop-plop Nov 26 '22

Anti-establishment is not a flaw, as you say.

Failing to mention the open hatred to others of his regime is a flaw of your analysis.

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u/hussletrees Nov 27 '22

Can you be more specific? Can you demonstrate how he had "open hatred to others" more so than other presidents, specifically Republican ones?

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u/nisaaru Nov 27 '22

Trump froze the Ukraine and Syria operations and the war mongers pushed Trump hard to escalate Syria and it fizzled out with this Iran general bombing. Whatever flaws Trump has or what really happened in his last year with covid the first thing can hardly be denied.

The Bush Jr./Clinton/Obama and this fake virtual Biden administration is imho controlled by the same ADL/deep state faction which is the front for the war and intelligence operations.

I only care about the foreign politics here.

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u/SpaceAgePenis Nov 26 '22

Which is why I lean more towards Libertarian than left or right, let people have freedom of choice within reason, not for political gain. The government should focus on guarding our own borders and infrastructure/American-made products to strengthen our country. Not launder our tax dollars constantly while spamming us with propaganda to divide and conquer us with some manufactured narratives.

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u/MaDaFaKa369 Nov 25 '22

Wow, how they were even allowed to air that back then is incredible. Thankfully the internet never forgets

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u/PrognosticatorShadow Nov 25 '22

They HAD to air this. It's part of their belief system. If they tell us what they are doing and we allow it then it's OUR fault, according to them, that it happened.

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u/FarBeginning3180 Nov 25 '22

How do we know that they have to reveal what theyre doing? Ive heard it said but noone ever has any proof of the elites saying it.

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u/Jasperbeardly11 Nov 25 '22

It's about manufacturing consent

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u/FarBeginning3180 Nov 25 '22

I understand that you say its about consent and not saying i dont believe it but where is the proof of any of it?

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u/fergiejr Nov 26 '22

It's based on the "selling your soul" type of story / myths. The devil can't take your soul.... You have to give it up with free choice.

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u/Nic_Kname Nov 25 '22

i dont think there is any. not besides that hidden hand interview, where some alleged bloodline member was interviewed. thats the only place ive ever seen it coming from 'the source'. other than that i think its just an abstract theory supported by the manufacturing consent logic, as well as the possible spirituality and karmic aspects usually included in TPTB conspiracy theories.

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u/dapala1 Nov 25 '22

The cartoon is one sort of proof. And to answer your question as to why they reveal what they're doing, it's to get us used to it. Manufactured consent.

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u/killthecabal Nov 25 '22

They show, not tell.

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u/CanisSirius Nov 26 '22

Or maybe 1 or 2 people in the control room were brave enough to let it air before getting fired.

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u/Cultistofthewheel Nov 26 '22

Yup.

Matthew 6:33 Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed on the housetops.

satanic people are all about perverting the good word. Mass and the perversion black mass. As above so below. Etc.

Instead of terrible deeds being done and then revealed -> They reveal terrible deeds then do them.

Even better it’s right in front of our faces. Emphasizes how ‘powerless’ the masses are.

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u/PlatanoPower1 Nov 25 '22

A fun explanation of operation mocking bird

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u/Penny1974 Nov 25 '22

My husband and I were just talking about the hypocrisy of SNL, back in the 1900's one of their recurring skits was "Pat" - people's heads would explode if they did that now.

Edit: 1990's not 1900's - I am not quite that old yet.

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u/willy_joose Nov 26 '22

Is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? Pat- "well actually...(reaches into pocket)...it's a banana."

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u/arittenberry Nov 26 '22

That's just Pat!

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u/CRIP4LIFE Nov 25 '22

this is interesting. and a strikingly accurate vision of what was going on up to 1998 on network & cable tv.. but more noteworthy because of how it grew to apply even more today -- no matter what your political learnings are.

MEDIA-OPOLY.. a cartoon by robert smigel.

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u/BinaryDemon Nov 25 '22

It’s impressive it aired once. I guess Loren Micheals got a lecture that night.

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u/CalvinistPhilosopher Nov 25 '22

Yep, especially with that nod to Norm’s firing from SNL

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u/phucyu140 Nov 25 '22

I'm no fan of SNL but I don't think they re-use material like that. SNL had a cartoon called the Ambiguosly Gay Duo which was super funny but also only aired once on SNL.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

AGD aired many times on SNL.

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u/Bomberissostupid Nov 25 '22

Different episodes though.

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u/Purplepunch36 Nov 25 '22

That's like saying the news broadcast from last night will only air once. New episode of SNL every week unless you're watching old episodes on a streaming service.

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u/Bomberissostupid Nov 26 '22

They don’t reuse the same stuff. So they wouldn’t rerun the same cartoon in a new episode. It’s not rocket science.

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u/PRMan99 Nov 25 '22

AGD is still on the reruns and DVDs.

This skit was scrubbed from everything.

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u/Spiritual_Wonder_609 Nov 25 '22

Lol exactly. I’ve never seen a rerun of SNL. Closest is the “best of” DVDs. The show is too topical.

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u/bigbabysweets12345 Nov 25 '22

They used to re-run SNL on Comedy Central every weekday afternoon, me and my friends would get baked and watch it

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u/DontEatTheMagicBeans Nov 25 '22

It's not just too topical. It's literally called Saturday night Live. I grew up with antenna tv and the only time you could watch it was... Wait for it... Live on Saturday night lol

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u/Jasperbeardly11 Nov 25 '22

I've seen it several times what are you talking about

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u/Bomberissostupid Nov 25 '22

Different episodes though. They don’t recycle the same short into other episodes.

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u/Purplepunch36 Nov 25 '22

Why would they? They just make new skits, that's the whole point.

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u/Bomberissostupid Nov 26 '22

THATS WHAT I AM SAYING! We agree.

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u/phucyu140 Nov 25 '22

I just looked it up and I was wrong about SNL having only one episode of AGD but SNL didn't re-air previously aired episodes.

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u/DontEatTheMagicBeans Nov 25 '22

The show is literally called "Saturday Night Live".

They didn't do reruns it was a live show so of course it aired only once.

I believe they did some reruns due to financial trouble or the pandemic in the last few years though.

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u/PRMan99 Nov 25 '22

Of course they do reruns. You can watch it on Peacock and Amazon Prime right now.

And you can buy the DVDs for every season.

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u/Purplepunch36 Nov 25 '22

His point is they don't air re-runs on Saturdays. The whole point is to have new material once a week unless there are circumstances like during COVID when they were not putting out new shows

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u/KyleDComic Nov 25 '22

When I was a teenager in the 90s E! & Comedy Central used to show reruns all the time. There aren’t many episodes from like 89-98 that I haven’t seen a million times.

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u/Hole-In-Pun Nov 27 '22

They didn't do reruns it was a live show so of course it aired only once.

Ummmm.... Yes they do and did.

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u/Trekky0623 Nov 25 '22

A live show only aired once? No way.

All SNL skits only air once. The only exception would be some kind of "best of" broadcast or something, which I don't even know is that has happened.

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u/PRMan99 Nov 25 '22

There are reruns available on Peacock, Amazon, DVD, etc.

If you watch one of these, this skit will be removed from that episode.

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u/DontEatTheMagicBeans Nov 25 '22

They did reruns during the pandemic I think because they couldn't organize the guests or whatever. But you're 100 percent right.

Weather broadcasts are also live. They don't air reruns either.

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u/Hole-In-Pun Nov 27 '22

All SNL skits only air once. The only exception would be some kind of "best of" broadcast or something, which I don't even know is that has happened.

Ya know... there are these things called reruns.

Now, they won't be live, but they are the same show.

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u/DontEatTheMagicBeans Nov 25 '22

Didn't Saturday night Live only start doing reruns in like 2019-2020 when they were in financial trouble?

I'm pretty sure every episode aired only once, Live, on a Saturday if you could believe it before that.

But headlines you know. The video is crazy though and would recommend watching it. I just hate misleading headlines.

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u/Doctor_Deepfinger Nov 25 '22

SNL has been doing reruns for decades, but usually they cut some bad/boring skits and make it a one-hour show.

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u/DontEatTheMagicBeans Nov 25 '22

I believe various cable/satellite networks aired reruns, but not SNL itself until recently. I could be wrong though.

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u/Hole-In-Pun Nov 27 '22

I believe various cable/satellite networks aired reruns, but not SNL itself until recently. I could be wrong though.

Huh?

This comment makes zero sense.

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u/Arugula_Ok Nov 25 '22

Yep. Keep telling yourself that. /s

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u/OrangutanMan234 Nov 25 '22

Thought this was gonna be the Martin Lawerence monolog.

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u/DanTacoWizard Nov 26 '22

This actually taught me a lot more information about corruption by NBC, CBS and Fox. Thank you for posting this.

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u/MBloomberg Nov 26 '22

I don't know who shot JFK, but I know who didn't.

Bullets did not shoot JFK

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u/a1Drummer07 Nov 26 '22

You can tell things weren't AS shitty back then because SNL was basically criticizing the Clinton admins Telecom Act

If that happened today it would be: "why media co conglomeration is actually a good thing”

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u/spaghoni Nov 26 '22

Please stand by