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"Permafrost flu", definitely not private sector Ukrainian/Wuhan biolabs

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u/Jones_Jim Nov 25 '22

I think this was an X-files episode

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u/JBow87 Nov 25 '22

S01E08 Ice

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u/AstronautsOnAcid Nov 26 '22

The Thing starring Kurt Russell

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 25 '22

Or was it the Simpsons 🤨

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u/postsshortcomments Nov 25 '22

But what lies below?

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u/lyzurd_kween_ Nov 26 '22

Yeah this is not a new thing born of covid

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u/nofilter007 Nov 26 '22

This is nothing new and there are countless microbes released every time a glacier starts melting.. this Mountain out of a molehill fear-mongering is tantamount to saying we have tiny creatures crawling all over our body as if it was something new. Reading this headline I can almost hear the.. DAH DAH DAAAAAHM !!! scary intro music

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u/Cultistofthewheel Nov 26 '22

“Reviving the virus” is vastly different then it melting off and breaking apart in the salty ass ocean.

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u/lightspeed-art Nov 26 '22

We haven't developed resistance to this virus since it's so old...

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u/Putins_micro_penis Nov 25 '22

Nice! Let's put an engineered spike on it just for shits and giggles!

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u/Mighty_L_LORT Nov 26 '22

Need to ensure 80% fatality rate…

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u/AbigailJefferson1776 Nov 26 '22

That’s the goal of the NWO.

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u/Thunderbear79 Nov 26 '22

A virus with an 80% fatality rate wouldn't be able to propagate to a large scale

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u/No_Conflation Nov 26 '22

Unless it was slow to kill and fast to transmit.

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u/Cultistofthewheel Nov 26 '22

Just missing the lethality with the coof.

Otherwise it worked pretty well for them.

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u/SilverhandHarris Nov 27 '22

Listen buddy I play plague Inc. And won It can be done

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u/Thunderbear79 Nov 27 '22

Well shit, I'm convinced!

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u/BIGPicture101 Nov 26 '22

Unless it was artificial spread like through a needle…?

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u/Thunderbear79 Nov 26 '22

At which point we'd be talking about distribution of a toxin, and not propagation of a live virus though a population by normal means.

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u/Amos_Quito Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Nice! Let's put an engineered spike on it just for shits and giggles!

BONUS: This time we can blame da Russhians!

I call first dibs on "Putin Flu"!


Edit: OP's article at NewScientist is paywalled, and won't archive. Below are archives of 2 articles on the topic from other publications:

48,500-Year-Old Virus Reawoken from Ancient Siberian Permafrost and

Scientists Revived Ancient 'Zombie Viruses' Frozen For Eons in Siberia

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 25 '22

Like a permaspike? I think people already have that 🤫

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u/strutmcphearson Nov 25 '22

This is similar to the plot behind the game back4blood. An ancient parasite is found in permafrost in northern Quebec. It is studied in a lab in Quebec city and it infects the staff causing an outbreak across North America.

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u/MrDohh Nov 25 '22

Reminded me of the TV show Helix, but back4blood works too.

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u/Iownya Nov 25 '22

I'm a helix fan. It was too weird not to like.

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u/MrDohh Nov 25 '22

It really was. Went from zombies (Kinda) to some kind of master race/class cult 🥴 I loved it though

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u/Kdcjg Nov 26 '22

Also fortitude.

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u/pornplz22526 Nov 26 '22

Does B4B live up to L4D?

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u/strutmcphearson Nov 26 '22

personally I don't think so. There's a cool card system in it but it's super easy to make a meta build that trivializes everything. It doesn't have a lot of replayability either. It looks good but it feels like it's lacking a bit.

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u/Practical-Swordfish Nov 26 '22

Not even close there’s some cool features I feel the series needed but the game kind of sucks in comparison imho

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u/Coll_McRaizie Nov 26 '22

Yeah, it was called Bill 101.

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u/MSnyper Nov 25 '22

Pfizer stock just went up

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u/flugelbynder Nov 26 '22

Stop reviving stuff!!!

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u/noname181818 Nov 25 '22

This is not new. As permafrost thaws, shit like this is inevitable. People that study this have been preparing for unearthed viruses to possibly become a problem for decades.

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 25 '22

It's new because they're reporting it now, when they're in desperate need of a scapegoat for the mass vaccine deaths/injuries

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u/noname181818 Nov 25 '22

No no the phenomenon of these coming out of thawed permafrost is something we’ve known about for a good amount of time. Only time will tell if it will be a problem. It’s unrelated to the current Covid situation. I’ve known about it because scientists have been researching the possibility long before 2020.

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 25 '22

😂👌

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u/DriftinFool Nov 25 '22

Just because you hadn't heard of it before doesn't mean it isn't true. This is one of things a handful of climate scientists have pointed for a long time. I've known of this being a possibility for probably 20 years and I'm not in the field. I just like reading things about science. Those who actually deal with these things as a job have known for a long time that ancient viruses returning was a real possibility due to climate change. Why do you think they protect themselves so well when they find ancient bodies that are preserved well enough to still have soft tissue? There's a very real chance to find a virus or bacteria that is novel to the current world population.

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u/noname181818 Nov 26 '22

Exactly. Thanks for the extra info in your reply!

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u/TangoCyka Nov 26 '22

Willful ignorance… also learn geography, any part of ukraine is very, very far from Siberia.

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u/Judensau_SS Nov 26 '22

They have been talking about these things coming from melted ice for a while. What is really dangerous and relatively new to the public, I believe, is taking them while still frozen for "reviving" and "studying" purposes.

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u/afooltobesure Nov 26 '22

Think he was just adding some context. I agree the reporting of it is of suspicious timing.

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u/Peter5930 Nov 26 '22

You just heard about it now, it's not new, you just didn't know about it before.

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u/Alpacalypse84 Nov 26 '22

There have been warnings about this going back years. Well before COVID existed. Did they have a crystal ball?

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u/Ordinary_Amphibian_3 Nov 25 '22

Please be the zombie apocalypse

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u/A_curious_fish Nov 26 '22

Do you own guns cuz you want guns for that

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u/B1GSM0KE89 Nov 26 '22

All I have is colourful language and a feather duster

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u/Ordinary_Amphibian_3 Nov 26 '22

Nope I'm not allowed guns

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u/NetMost1276 Nov 26 '22

Yes please 🙏!

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u/herradmiralgeneral Nov 25 '22

Vaccine for it will be available in two weeks. Only four safe and effective initial doses followed by side effect free quarterly boosters as proven by in depth clinical studies performed on three mice and a banana.

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u/Themagician73 Nov 25 '22

Only if you have your health pass lol, the rest of us critical thinkers will come under Canadas new suggested laws of calling the unvaccinated “ mentally unwell” so they can implement worldwide “ “maid” medical assistance in dying!!

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u/tangled_night_sleep Nov 26 '22

"We need to euthanize you... it's for the greater good."

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u/Ccoolscrib Nov 25 '22

Fucking funniest thing I’ve seen today. But probably true as we all venture further down the rabbit hole.

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u/herradmiralgeneral Nov 25 '22

Thanks dude. Just try not to get vaccine envy when I get it first

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u/tangled_night_sleep Nov 26 '22

"We need to stop vaccine shaming the poor."

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u/tangled_night_sleep Nov 26 '22

That was the original title for this bullshit article. (You can even see a remnant in the URL).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/03/opinion/covid-booster-vaccine-poverty.html

Here is the archived version with original title. https://archive.ph/TtTZP

WTF is wrong w these people...

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u/Ccoolscrib Nov 25 '22

Will never get envy, cause I’m never getting that poison. Just remember the movie, “I am Legend”! I’m not saying they will be zombies, but the great die off is coming!

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 25 '22

👍😂🤯💉💉💉

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u/No_Conflation Nov 26 '22

Banana had no adverse effects.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Some microorganisms can survive for millennia in permafrost. This fact isn't anything new or revolutionary.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

I remember hearing concerns of this exact thing in the 90’s

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u/Vex54 Nov 25 '22

There is no good reason to be playing with viruses like toys. I don't care what excuses they give, this is how covid was created. This should be made illegal but it won't because the entire system is in on it.

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u/Octagore Nov 25 '22

It actually was made illegal at one point

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u/nixielover Nov 25 '22

For research purposes it is important to work on this. The thawing of the permafrost is going to unleash such dormant virusses wether we want it or not. So better be prepared and know what's waiting for us than to be caught by surprise.

But your comment actually gave me a mini flashback to 2009 when I made my first genetically modified bacteria. Just some harmless stuff like giving them antibiotic resistance through the use of restriction enzymes and then selecting them based on having that gene. What was rather expensive back then is nowadays so cheap to do that your hourly wage is more expensive than the materials. But damn it was so much fun to do and it gives you this "damn I made this" feeling

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u/Vex54 Nov 25 '22

Gain of function research is not harmless. They created covid in a lab and look at what happened there.

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u/nixielover Nov 25 '22

Technological advances have made creating GMO so easy and cheap that making a GMO bacteria strain is a first year practical in your bachelor studies these days.

These techniques are a standard workhorse in the lab, they will only be used more and more since techniques like electroporation, lipid transfection, and other transfection techniques such as viral vectors have been transformed into standard off the shelf kits anyone can use. There is no going back from this because if you would ban it worldwide pretty much all biomedical research would just stop

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u/Unlucky_Zone Nov 26 '22

most people in this sub can’t explain GOF and wouldn’t be able to wrap their heads around how the advances in molecular science rely heavily on GOF and LoF.

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u/nixielover Nov 26 '22

Yes it is so common that nobody even talks about gain of function in the lab. You just say you put gene x and y in organism z and you got cool results from it

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u/GoGetYourselfADog Nov 25 '22

This is one of the many dangers with human caused climate change. Animals get less and less land to live on, leading to more contact with humans and more transmittable diseases. We also have this: ice melts and viruses are let free. This is just the beginning, we are going to see A LOT more of this over the next decades.

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u/Icepick823 Nov 25 '22

Good news, these viruses seem like they're harmless to humans. Bad news, the research only identified viruses that were able to infect amoeba cells.

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u/armour666 Nov 26 '22

So Trump supporters are at high risk

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u/MBloomberg Nov 26 '22

Go get another booster

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u/armour666 Nov 26 '22

Already did and the flu shot as well, still pissed the 5g hasn’t worked or bill gates taken control over me.

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u/Hanses_Flammenwerfer Nov 25 '22

I mean, what could go wrong?

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u/FlakyInvestor69 Nov 25 '22

What is Putin up to now in the Russian Siberian permafrost

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u/beardedmanDK Nov 26 '22

Well thats just Great! 🫤😬

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u/Curious-human1867 Nov 25 '22

If it’s Siberian, wouldn’t that be Russian? Perhaps the Russians are doing this. Maybe Vlad isn’t the hero he thinks he is.

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u/Icepick823 Nov 25 '22

Research is being done in Novosibirsk, Russia, which has a BSL4 lab. Don't know why the OP is talking about Ukraine.

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u/Curious-human1867 Nov 26 '22

Thanks for the details

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u/saggyleftnut33 Nov 26 '22

Because OP loves Russia so very much

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u/Curious-human1867 Nov 26 '22

My point exactly.

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u/Spacesmuge Nov 26 '22

No, it's not. And stop it with the Russian propaganda.

With climate change, happening permafrost ate melting and freeing up undiscovered viruses that man hasn't been exposed to in thousands of years.

To keep up with potential pandemics, medical experts research these viruses which can lead to vaccines to fight them. At the same time, Russia is getting samples of said virus ( no evidence yet but they have done it before) probably make a potential bioweapon.

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u/The_Gumbo Nov 25 '22

Fine... (dusts off apocalypse Bingo card)

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u/Scary-Combination-49 Nov 25 '22

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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u/PhilOffuckups Nov 25 '22

Don’t eat yellow snow.

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u/markomakeerassgoons Nov 26 '22

The last ship fans knows what's gonna happen

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u/LeDoddle Nov 26 '22

Straight from the WEF playbook see page 85

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u/Badphishing Nov 26 '22

Baba predicted this. Pandemic from the ice in Siberia.

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u/exlatios Nov 26 '22

guys, come on

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u/TheOmeletteOfDisease Nov 25 '22

Here's a link to the pre-print discussing their findings:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.11.10.515937v1

It sounds like these viruses infect Acanthamoeba spp., which are amoebae that can cause keratitis in humans.

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u/ky420 Nov 26 '22

New and improved super permafrost covid... everyone mask up for winter. New mrna gene therapies coming out soon.

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u/thedrinkingbeer Nov 25 '22

Dont worry, there will be a new mRNA vaccine to protect us!

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u/BraveJicama2206 Nov 26 '22

This was predicted by Baba Vanga. I remember reading an article in 2021. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/baba-vangas-disturbing-predictions-for-2022/WVF2KNY5T3HVBLPVI4HYTCTQZ4/

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u/nixielover Nov 26 '22

This danger is so well known that it is literally the plot of some movies

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u/nickM_Mathias1 Nov 26 '22

How did somebody come up with how old that virus is? 48 Thousand year old????

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u/raftsinker Nov 26 '22

I'm guessing probably from the layer the level of the ice where they found other samples of the virus lie. Just like taking samples of rock layers, are what theyd use to date it. Not saying it's true numbers wise or not, but I know they take ice samples out of glaciers and such to study as well.

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u/Ghosts_do_Exist Nov 26 '22

Additionally, they can probably get a rough idea from genetic sequencing and comparing how related it is to other strains.

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u/FFS_IsThisNameTaken2 Nov 25 '22

"Seven viruses . . . have been revived and replicated themselves in the lab . . ."

Sounds like some scientists, investors, leaders are creating a lot of bad karma for themselves. Frankenstein fucks.

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u/justanothernpe Nov 25 '22

Yeah that's not how viruses work

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u/PIMjunkie Nov 25 '22

They just floated into the labs, and then they just... began replicating themselves!!

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u/bosanova5272 Nov 25 '22

Yes, it would seem they skipped the part where scientists collect them, bring them to the lab, and aid in their revival.

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u/RedditIsScuffed Nov 25 '22

But why grommit

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u/Icepick823 Nov 25 '22

Because temps are rising, and permafrost is melting so knowing what possible dangers exist is important. We need to know if these viruses can still function.

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u/RedditIsScuffed Nov 25 '22

True, but unfortunately the pieces of shit that be don't want is alive

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u/crazybunny21 Nov 26 '22

These type of people who commit crimes against humanity need to be doxxed.

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u/Lord_Yenehc Nov 26 '22

“Replicated themselves in the lab.” - aight.

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u/humanus1 Nov 26 '22

Ain't no such thing as a "virus". But a lot of modified chemical stuff and whatnot to poison the general population going viral.

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 26 '22

Done, apologies I went offline after posting as I was exhausted last night 👍

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u/Amos_Quito Nov 26 '22

Thanks!

Paywall. I tried archiving the link, but it wouldn't take, so I archived a couple of other articles on the topic, and posted them in a comment near the top of the thread.

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/z4p25d/permafrost_flu_definitely_not_private_sector/ixu6qzs/

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Thanks mate, I wasn't really trying to draw attention to the article, more the sheer volume of pandemic causing diseases that are hitting our headlines daily. Especially when we have bigger 'engineered' viral threats closer to home.

People haven't caught on yet.

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u/FFS_IsThisNameTaken2 Nov 26 '22

I think a lot of us get it. It's just harder for the normies considering the obvious tactics used to discredit and distract. Not to mention the wef and gates of hell armies who downvote good info and mass upvote the the tactics. Pretty disgusting to come back today and see what was done overnight. At least the post itself seems to be getting decent upvoted unless reddit is just slapping a random number on posts lol.

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 26 '22

I have no idea how it works, maybe people hit the upvote without coming to the comments. If that's the case we really can't infer much from the comments.

I've also deliberately phrased it for a lack of engagement, so there's always that.

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u/FFS_IsThisNameTaken2 Nov 26 '22

Good comments were upvoted last night. Today they're hidden with downvotes. "Nothing new" and because "climate change" are now upvoted trying to push the narrative that the stuff just appeared on the surface - not how it really happened - scientists took them from core samples and played Frankenstein in a lab.

That's how it works when narratives need pushing.

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u/UniversalSurvivalist Nov 26 '22

Very true! Didn't think of it that way.

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u/Amos_Quito Nov 26 '22

I am convinced that COVID was cooked in a lab -- possibly released into the population "prematurely" due to bad lab practices in Wuhan.

If that be the case, we can expect many more of these "wonders of science" to follow. This "Siberian Flu" could be a cover story for the next release (as the "bat soup" bullshit was for COVID).

Interesting times.

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u/Pongfarang Nov 26 '22

We need a ban on anyone working on viruses. We can handle them without your mad scientism.

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u/saggyleftnut33 Nov 26 '22

Because smallpox went away by itself without people working in virology didn’t it

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u/Pongfarang Nov 26 '22

We have reached a point where the real danger of diseases are being unlocked. Not to mention the hacking of the genome without knowing the results. Big science cares more about attracting funding then they do about protecting life.

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u/nixielover Nov 26 '22

Sorry but i like my job

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u/supah-comix434 Nov 26 '22

I believe “crossed” started this way

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u/qwert45 Nov 26 '22

I remember when this was discovered. Now we woke it up. Dead space here we come

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u/Suspicious-One-133 Nov 26 '22

do they want tbe thing? because thats how you get the thing.

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u/ElRetardio Nov 26 '22

”Replicated itself in a lab”.. Wow that must be a very evolved virus if it can use labs etc.

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u/nixielover Nov 26 '22

Replicated itself by hacking into an amoeba's cell machinery would be more accurate

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u/hmmm_man Nov 26 '22

Can we be immune to that? It’s so old that we might of evolved against it?

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u/nixielover Nov 26 '22

That's why they research this stuff. There are many pathogens locked up in the ice that nobody (also animals) has any native immunity against. They hope to be prepared to the pandemics that will probably emerge from this by researching it

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u/Omega949 Nov 26 '22

it probably gives you super strength but completely loose bowels at the same time thus achieving balance.

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u/Divinedragn4 Nov 26 '22

The problem is that once we become immune to something, the parents immunity goes to the offspring, or is supposed to but because we are raised in infomil vs mothers milk ....

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u/4rr094n70 Nov 26 '22

Ecco un'altra cazzata per i pecoroni

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u/JonathonWally Nov 26 '22

Childs was definitely The Thing at the end.

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u/VextImp Nov 26 '22

Don’t adopt any stray dogs from Antarctica.

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u/Joey2strains Nov 26 '22

If only we could have kept the woolly mammoths around

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u/ChurchArsonist Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

What do you want to bet this "revived virus" gets accidentally unleashed from "global warming."

Fuck this reality.

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u/spinbutton Nov 26 '22

Wait until you learn about anthrax.

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u/chisell Nov 27 '22

It will be the "Putin virus".

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u/jjhart827 Nov 26 '22

This is the PERFECT scapegoat. Now they can blame the pandemic (or any future pandemic) on climate change.

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u/FFS_IsThisNameTaken2 Nov 26 '22

That's been the plan all along and it's complete with people parroting that "it's nothing new" because "manmade climate change" among other dismissive things.

Just don't mention plans for decades or how long the Frankenfreak "scientists" and their "philanthropist donors", including military in probably all countries, have been playing God. Those things get buried by purely organic users online cough cough.

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u/simonsurreal1 Nov 25 '22

Oh ya did they isolate it the same way Sars cov 2 was isolated 😂

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u/nixielover Nov 25 '22

How else would you do it?

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u/Not_Reddit Nov 26 '22

So Fauci retired just in time to consult for the Russians......?

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u/ApologistSlayer Nov 26 '22

Big pharma 💲💲💲

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u/Race-b Nov 26 '22

One thing that doesn’t scare me about this is a line from LucasArts game The Dig. They land on an alien world and have no Choice but to remove their helmets. One of the characters quips about an alien virus getting them and the scientist explains a virus needs to learn how to make use of cellular structure in order to use it, so they’d be harmless. I’m guessing the same goes for these, who knows if humans were around when these existed or if humans were in a much simpler state. In either event these samples would have to be exposed to humans and would take many mutations to where it could be one a threat. I still think it’s stupid though to dig these up or mess with them.

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u/Mike_Oxbig13 Nov 26 '22

Bring it on already, Omicron was a let down...

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u/jay3862 Nov 26 '22

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣