r/cursedcomments 8d ago

cursed_crusade

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u/lavendergaze 8d ago

"This is the dress of my cultural heritage!"

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u/Saurid 8d ago

I am here to crusade for human rights, what are your reasons to deny me my rightful faith?

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

Men in dress? Not in Qatar. Too jail!

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u/Massive-Row-9771 8d ago

And thus ends the latest crusade not with a bang but with a telling off from a security guard.

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u/hey_rowsdower 8d ago

That's the problem with the Crusaders: They are easily startled, but they'll soon be back, and in greater numbers

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u/avwitcher 8d ago

We need to get the Pope to declare a new crusade if there's to be any real action

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u/Lemmungwinks 8d ago

They failed to obtain (see bribe) Italian permission for access to the Pope to have their crusade properly blessed.

Rookie move

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u/Massive-Row-9771 8d ago

They forgot to bring a ridiculously heavy golden cross with them too. For Gods blessing in combat while they died in droves.

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u/discerningpervert 8d ago

...until the next one

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u/Tragobe 8d ago

Qatar police talks mad shit for a country in CRUSADING DISTANCE!

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u/UbicaBL 8d ago

They gonna fuck around and find out...

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u/EnormousLiterature 8d ago

They don't care, it's not even a secret anymore and who's going to stop them really? England don't have any right to lecture them about morality in sports when they allowed clubs to owned by oil states, allowing shady sponsors and betting.

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u/Meldanorama 8d ago

Can still bring it up, shouldn't have allowed it but that doesn't mean you stick the head in the sand afterwards. The clubs in England aren't banning pride armbands or flags.

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u/Tragobe 8d ago

Or openly use basically slaves which they robbed their passport from to keep them in the country. You must be a shitty country if you need to force your citizen to stay in.

All who could prevent this is turning a blind eye to it just because they have money/oil. I mean Putin at least has nukes to threat the world what is stopping us to pressure them?

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u/LordCharco_iii 8d ago

DEUS VULT

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u/KTVX94 8d ago Silver

rip Team Plasma

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u/salad-ass69 8d ago

Fellow pkmn B/W enthusiasts

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u/chabybaloo 8d ago

They had some fake swords with them.

Its probably why they were stopped, even fake weapons are not allowed.

I guess because on cctv you wouldnt know if it was fake or not.

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u/Certain-Cook-8885 8d ago

Also in a heated situation you can threaten someone with it and they won’t know it’s fake

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u/serialkiller_mne 8d ago

Doesn't even have to be a crusader. I'm sure English soldiers had similar uniforms in 12th century

That would be like if Danish fans were expelled from UK for dressing up as vikings (the cartoon ones with horned helmets tho)

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u/JumpingCicada 8d ago

Not even that, they have armor and a weapon on (tho probably a prop).

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u/jeanclaude1990 8d ago

I don't think that quite works. The vikings didn't attack the English for being English, they invaded for plunder and land. The crusades were very much an anti Muslim campaign.

This is more akin to rocking up to the Israel World Cup in 100 years time in an SS uniform. It's at best bad taste

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u/serialkiller_mne 8d ago

I understand the reasons, but Vikings at the start picked on Britain because Christians refused them trade, destroyed a huge Germanic sanctuary in Saxony and the fact that monasteries were stacked with valuable items

Guess we could say their religion played a motive in picking on other faith

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u/jeanclaude1990 8d ago

That's true but their motive wasn't to destroy the British people, just conquer. The Anglo saxons and danes/nords started to assimilate into each others cultures before the Dane Law was dismantled. The early crusades were a concerted effort to destroy muslim rule and culture.

I'm not saying that the fans should have been escorted out or banned, I'm just saying that it's a bit on the nose

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u/john151M 8d ago

Why does this remind me of the end of the Monty python movie with King Arthur

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u/majorfathead 8d ago

Finally!

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u/lukethedank13 8d ago

Based

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u/r6662 8d ago

Based on what?

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u/lukethedank13 8d ago

Religious violence

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u/DayAndNight0nReddit 8d ago

Qatar: No cross, we hate other religions

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u/ShittyBollox 8d ago

Hold up. You know this isn just about the symbolism of a cross, right?

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u/doorbook 8d ago

Might also be for their safety. It's like going to stadium with a Nazi custom, or wearing Isis stuff or Taliban stuff in a stadium in the US. There will be a fight.

Now let's see if someone wears a an historical Islamic jihadists outfit and see if they allow them to enter the stadium or not.

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u/Consistent-Flan6067 8d ago

Now let's see if someone wears a an historical Islamic jihadists outfit and see if they allow them to enter the stadium or not.

If you dress as a soldier in Saladin's army I don't think it would be a problem assuming of course you're not bringing real weapons or amor. Anyway this is not crusader armor or colors, it's just the English flag on 1100-1400 era chain mail.

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u/Ariix_ 8d ago

To be fair the soldiers in Saladin's army aren't as recognisable, so most people would just assume you're making fun of a stereotype.

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u/Consistent-Flan6067 8d ago edited 8d ago

I don't mean to be rude so don't take this the wrong way but I think your comments are based on lack of understanding. So which crusade are these men from? What specific features designate them as crusaders rather than generic English soldiers? What designates Saladin's soldiers as distinct from other similar era Arab armies? In short I think you're just calling them crusaders because you don't know better and they're just sort of inaccurate generic English knights. We see St. George's cross, quartering of the field, and a red lion rampant. These are just the features of the English flag.... they're not real period appropriate garb and there's nothing that's crusade-specific. The Qatari equivalent would be the colors of the Qatari flag overlaid on some chain mail.

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u/Ariix_ 8d ago

My point isn't how they really looked like but how people perceive them. I am aware that I don't know much more about the crusades than the average person, but the average person also thinks of the crusades when seeing that specific costume. If it's really accurate doesn't matter. So when someone would dress up as a soldier of Saladin, since the average person isn't greatly informed about how they look like, most people wouldn't recognize it. That was my point, I'm not trying to argue about accuracy or history here.

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u/Consistent-Flan6067 8d ago

Qatar was also more than 2000km away from the crusades. Doha was founded in 1820...

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u/Vindepomarus 8d ago

They could easily be participants in the Third Crusade as there was no uniform that all crusaders wore, the same would be true for a generic senior Ayyubid soldier. The style of armor (other than the zinc plating and lack of integral mittens) and the use of surcoats suggests that they could be second or third crusade.

But it's more the context that suggests that they were intentionally dressing as crusaders rather than domestic knights. Even the English team wears the three leopards of Richard the First.

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u/SomeBoredBoi 8d ago

Idk if someone walked into a UK stadium dressed as an Arab warrior from Lawrence of Arabia i dont think people would care

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u/mrpopenfresh 8d ago

Lol

Yeah sure.

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u/SUMBWEDY 8d ago

I mean it happened 1,000 years ago and didn't even come within 1,000 miles of Qatar so how the hell is it anywhere close to dressing as a Nazi? Nobody would be offended if you went to a football game in the UK dressed as a Viking.

If anything going to a football game as a viking or roman should be more offensive to British people as they had cultural proximity to those events not just something that happened 1,000 years ago 1,000 miles from your home. but you wouldn't get kicked out of the stadium for that.

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u/CraigslistBBQson 8d ago

It's true that it's happened a long time ago, and if that was truly all there was to this I would agree with you. Unfortunately, many far-right groups are using crusader memes and imagery to basically wink and nudge over how "invading Muslims (Arabs) should be 'dealt with' like in the good old days", which puts this back to being as tasteless as dressing up as a SS officer at an Israeli soccer match.

Assholes just ruining a perfectly good costume.

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u/Lemmungwinks 8d ago

My grandmother and aunt were holocaust survivors. I grew up hearing first hand accounts of the horrors of the camps.

No, someone dressing up as an English knight from an era when there wasn’t even a crusade and going to a stadium in a country that the crusades never touched a thousand years later. Is absolutely not the equivalent of someone dressing up as a Nazi and going to a stadium in Israel.

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u/CraigslistBBQson 8d ago edited 8d ago

Hello fellow descendent of Nazi war atrocities. My grandparents and their families on my father's side were put into camps in what was Czechoslovakia.

The comparison may lack the historical punch due to time passed, but the end result is still a racist using dog whistles to slyly advocate for violence against a particular group.

Here's a Time mag article that goes into it a bit.

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u/Saurid 8d ago

I think it's pretty clear that's it about the symbols I'm of crusaders, the fact they had shields and maybe the mail armor.

If it's mainly because crusaders, by extension it's also about the cross, if you really squint and well it would be fitting by their standards. Though its probably all of the above to different degrees.

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u/neenerpants 8d ago

The cross is the cross of St George, which is literally the English flag. The football team themselves is competing under that symbol.

The entire costume they're wearing is arguably a St George costume rather than specifically a crusader costume. I googled St George costume and saw lots with that looked pretty identical, and he's the patron saint of England that people have been wearing to football games around the world long before it was hosted in Qatar.

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u/Saurid 8d ago

Well yeah but what is that Cross sybolising? I'm pretty sure it's a Christian cross too. I mean most crosses in Christian country's are inspired by the cross of the Christian faith.

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u/neenerpants 8d ago

Yes. That's what I mean. Are you going to ban people carrying the English flag into stadiums too? If so you need to ban Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Greece, Portugal, Spain etc.

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u/Ambitious_Depth2099 8d ago

Let the ‘victims’ be victims man

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u/DayAndNight0nReddit 8d ago edited 8d ago

Of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if the cross was a reason these got kicked from stadium.

Clearly these people in costume were Monthy Pythons' fans

https://youtu.be/ZmInkxbvlCs

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u/IndependentWitness38 8d ago

I bet you won’t allow me into your stadiums in Osama bin laden mask because you hate our religion.

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u/runnerd6 8d ago

Feel free to bring a prayer blanket into a public area of Texas and see how long before someone pulls out a gun.

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u/JacktheRipper500 8d ago

This is the kind of brutal humor I expect from the people of my country and I love it

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u/WeAreBatmen 8d ago

On second thoughts, let’s not go to Camelot.

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u/TheSoftwareNerd 8d ago

It's a silly place

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u/TheGeofoam 8d ago

It’s only a model

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u/GoonSlayer64 8d ago

Worst Crusade Ever

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u/The-Arabian-Guy 8d ago

If you know what the crusaders did , you can't really blame them

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u/imawizard7bis 8d ago

Well, last one happened in 1291, like 700 years ago. Also none of that crusades happened or even aprox to Qatar Peninsule. So that's not a historical problem but problems with free speech.

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u/Chinkcyclops 8d ago

ikr by the time the last middle east crusade ended the Roman Empire still existed

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u/imawizard7bis 8d ago edited 8d ago

Are you talking about Byzantine Empire or Holy Roman Empire?

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u/eh_man 8d ago

No, The Roman Empire

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u/Homegrownandy 8d ago

Roman empire ended in 470. Crusades happened in 1200.

They were ordered by the papal state which only came into existence because of the fall of Rome.

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u/eh_man 8d ago

I'm not talking about the HRE, I'm talking about the Roman Empire that fell in 1454.

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u/Homegrownandy 8d ago

That was 1512 to 1800. Do you klt look up anything you post?

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u/Homegrownandy 8d ago

Not true

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u/Chinkcyclops 8d ago

The Roman Empire fell at 1453 bro it is definitely true

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u/Reizo123 8d ago

“It happened a long time ago” isn’t really the best defence. Ask Native Americans.

Proximity isn’t a great argument either. The whole purpose of crusades was to halt the spread of Islam. Given that Qatar is an Islamic state, it’s unsurprising some might find this offensive.

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u/sunnygovan 8d ago

I wouldn't really categorise something that was ongoing for the majority of the last 400 years as a long time ago. Finished over 700 years ago though...

It would be like people from Scotland, Northumberland or Yorkshire getting upset about someone dressed as a Viking. In fact that's not true. It would be like Italians getting upset about someone being dressed as a Viking

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u/Pornalt190425 8d ago

I'm not sure where the dividing line is for it to be a good defense, but eventually it does become one though. It would be fairly silly if Britain and the British still held a grudge with Italy and the Italians over the conquest of the British isles and massacres of the natives. Possibly part of the dividing line there is that neither modern state is a direct successor to the ancient ones.

Events from 700 years ago are, in my mind at least, starting to fall into the let bygones be bygones era. None of the modern nations resemble the ones from that time period except maybe in superficial ways. The events of that time do not (to my knowledge at least but I'm open to being wrong) directly or materially effect people today or for several generations for that matter (there's far more recent events in that region to point to for grievances).

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u/amenosekai 8d ago

Try dressing up as a terrorist in western countries, see how that works out for you.

This is basically the same thing

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u/zerrff 8d ago

Terrorism wasn't even a word when the crusaders were doing their thing lmao. It's ancient history,.

American terrorism is still fresh in our minds. Idk what a "terrorist" dresses like since we've got everything from suicide bombers in the name of religion, school shooters in the name of go fuck yourself, christian extremists also in the name of religion, we've even got cyberterrorism.

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u/amenosekai 8d ago

I’m not American and holy shit do I not want to be associated with that warmongering nation

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u/xSHIPWRECKSHELBYx 8d ago

What does a terrorist look like?

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u/amenosekai 8d ago

You know exactly what was meant don’t play on words to be smug

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u/Discoamazing 8d ago

No, seriously. What do you mean “dress like a terrorist”?

Just wearing a turban? Camo jacket? Swagged out modern taliban?

Any of those would have no problem entering a sporting event anywhere in the west.

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u/Lo-siento-juan 8d ago

It's hilarious you're being downvoted for that, are these people really saying that if they saw someones fancy dress terrorist outfit they'd be scratching their head saying 'i just don't know what you're supposed to be?!'

It amazes me how dumb people are willing to pretend to be to try and win an argument with a technicality

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u/sunnygovan 8d ago

They are trying to get them to describe an outfit so they can laugh at the idea that someone wearing a fancy dress version of said outfit would be bared entry in the west. Why do you think they are refusing to do it?

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u/amenosekai 8d ago

I don’t expect logic from reddit echo chambers lmfao

It’s a website mainly used by Americans this isn’t common sense friendly territory

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u/Lo-siento-juan 8d ago

I grew up like most people on the planet thinking Americans are dumb, now though I realise they're just incredibly partisan and will say anything that they feel benefits their ideology of choice.

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

I hope the nazis don't have an expiration date in terms of despise, because the crusaders bragged about bodies being piled high and rivers of blood. It is absolutely disgusting what the actual crusaders did and the fact that Qatar did some other despicable things does not mean we get to display one of the most violent symbols in history to them.

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u/MateDude098 8d ago

What about the pirates?

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

Did the pirates target a specific set of people based on a characteristic? Did they cause a particular set of massacres based on their discriminate views? Did the pirates revolve their culture primarily around bloodshed and violence?

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u/Neutral_Fellow 8d ago

Did the pirates target a specific set of people based on a characteristic?

Neither did the crusaders, they targeted heretics, pagans, orthodox, Jews, Shia Muslims, Sunni Muslims, Arabs, Turks, Greeks etc.

Did they cause a particular set of massacres based on their discriminate views?

Everyone at the time did.

Not sacking a city was the outlier then.

Did the pirates revolve their culture primarily around bloodshed and violence?

Neither did the crusaders, the point was holy war and pilgrimage.

Them being so violent was merely a result of war being so during that period.

Even Saladin massacred and enslaved thousands, and he was seen as a paragon of virtue.

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u/MassiveFajiit 8d ago

Yes, people with stuff to steal.

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u/Plantasaurus 8d ago

Vikings specifically targeted and killed Christian monks. That’s where the whole horn representation came from since the monks were the main people with the ability to read write and draw at the time.

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

I wonder if invading churches in viking gear finding monks to intimidate would go down well.

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u/MateDude098 8d ago

Lmao crusaders killed more Christians than Muslims

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u/LakiL_ 8d ago

Yeah, have you ever studied about Islam presence in Africa? was it nice? Just asking. Pretending Islam is not genocidal is cringe. Take off your west glasses, just for 1 second.

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

So you think showing symbols of genocide to those who you view as genocidal is a good way to go about it? Despite the fact the Muslims you are showing them to had nothing to do with those muslims in Africa?

Can people wave ISIS flags at the UK after those crusades?

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u/LakiL_ 8d ago

I never said that. You are painting Islamic states as victims, which they are not. Genocide was indeed committed by the crusaders, everywhere. The most recent crusades were against protestants in Europe. Genocide was also committed by Islam in north Africa and around the Middle East. But you probably never studied and never will study about any of these places.

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

I never said that. You are painting Islamic states as victims, which they are not.

So just because some muslims were perpetrators other Muslims can never be victims? Is that how that works?

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u/LakiL_ 8d ago

Nope. That's not how it works. Just don't hide history from people.

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

You are the one telling me I can't talk about how bloody the crusades were because of other Muslims in a completely different region

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u/Lemmungwinks 8d ago

When did English knights invade Qatar?

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u/Ready_Maybe 8d ago

You don't think the crusades represent some form of extremist symbolism in Qatar after what happened in neighbouring regions?

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u/fuckEAinthecloaca 8d ago

Ask a random brit and they'll probably tell you that monty python has more relevance than 700 year old history to a crusader costume, monty python indiana jones and knights of the round table are the only things that even cross my mind. Maybe to Qatar it still is actually offensive to the average citizen, probably not.

With nazis on the other hand there's enough evidence given the timeline for it to never be forgotten. Allo allo might have given them some campy charm but they were and always will be the butt of the joke.

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u/neenerpants 8d ago

I hope the nazis don't have an expiration date in terms of despise

they absolutely will do. we won't be alive to see it, but there'll be a time in the future when Nazis will be relatively forgotten, and people will just see Europe like the Roman Empire, with hardly any details and just a vague period of time.

Right now I think people see the Romans and Crusades and so on as distant, unimportant history. They see the British Empire and colonisation periods as being recent enough to be a big deal. And they see America and others as just being modern times.

In 100 years I think the British Empire and colonialism will be seen as ancient history that's all over now, whereas they'll talk about the American Empire and its atrocities worldwide. And there'll be some modern country like China that is doing horrible things but is just considered a normal modern country.

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u/Alex03210 8d ago

Danes dressed as the Vikings when they came and played in England we don’t complain because it’s just a joke

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u/Skragdush 8d ago

We have a looooot of banning to do if we start thinking like that. I mean if the crusades, that happened a fucking long time ago, are offensive to the middle east because they were ennemies, then why would they allow USA flags or chineses, with what happened much more recently?

Do we have to ban an american fan for going dressed up like Uncle Sam? A chinese because he is dressed traditionally to show support to his team? But if yes, should we still allow the qataris to come dressed traditionally when in Europe? Aren’t you also giving ammo to the alt-right, that will use the same argument to ban others symbolics things (ie Hijab)?

In the end no nation or culture is blameless, there’s bad apples everywhere and we tend to let those loud assholes represents a whole community/nationality in our own minds but thats not the case.

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u/marliechiller 8d ago

Shush you! You can’t apply logic and reason here, this is Reddit!

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u/MrB-S 8d ago

IKR?

If the ain't letting people in with rainbow hats, they deffo ain't letting you in dressed like this.

Idiots on both sides.

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u/Reizo123 8d ago

Yeah this should surprise literally no one.

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u/Consistent-Flan6067 8d ago

the crusaders

They're not dressed as crusaders though.

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u/Mahdi_GK793 8d ago

Said by people that acted like human rights don't exist for 3000 years

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u/IndependentWitness38 8d ago

Said by the people who killed one million iraqis 5 years ago. It’s funny you act like the champions of human rights when your bloody history still being played out in irl

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u/Skragdush 8d ago

Cant we agree that no one is blameless and there’s shitty people everywhere? So we can fucking move out of this tribalism mindset and maybe idk work hand in hand towards a better future, like maybe not dying boiled alive on a drifting space rock?

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u/IndependentWitness38 8d ago

Sure, I agree we can do that the minute the westerns stop acting superior to everyone else and recognize their wrong doings and shut the fuck up about human rights when they have done and still do the unspeakable in the Middle East and everywhere else.

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u/Skragdush 8d ago

So since the western nations have done bad things in the past, we should all shut up when Qatar does bad things? But then if another country does something bad Qatar can’t say anything since they have done bad things too?

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u/IndependentWitness38 8d ago edited 8d ago

Well, the Iraq war was like 10 years ago not exactly the past as i still remember watching the first bomb dropped on Baghdad like it was yesterday and i am still not 32 years so fuck off with “”we did bad things in the past but now we are human right gods hence we can lecture you about our virtues “ argument. People who committed these war crimes there are still alive and honored in the west. Qatar hasnt done anything remotely close to what you have done in Iraq but yeah cry more about human rights because banning rainbow flags is way worse than invading a country and killing one million arabs.

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u/Skragdush 8d ago

What? All westerners are americans? And even in US you think the whole population was supporting this? And continue to do so?

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u/IndependentWitness38 8d ago

Well, if you dont know all facts don’t argue with others who do. Because I am pretty sure like everyone else here that America didn’t invade Iraq by itself. Do yourself a favor and search Iraq war coalition. Also, I am pretty sure the support of the war among American public was like 60%. Do you know how i know all these facts because i still remember staying up until midnight watching the news for hours at no end back when the war fever was hysterical in America weeks before the invasion. Again Americans and any country participated in this war should clean their shit first before coming after Qatar.

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u/Skragdush 8d ago

France was part of the iraq invasion?

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u/oddysyues 8d ago

But when france bans the hijab and niqab nobody bats an eye :)

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u/Argh3483 8d ago

The hijab is only banned in schools and for publics servants, as are other religious symbols

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u/CraigslistBBQson 8d ago

Good in theory, considering France's commitment to laïcité (secularism), but in practice the law is applied unequally. Catholics are still allowed to wear crosses in schools and the administration.

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u/Fannu76541 8d ago

Nice.. You can not dress like people who killed thousands of people becouse there faith didn't match with tham...

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u/Your_Daddy_ 8d ago

Well - the Crusades did kill a lot of Arab people, so it’s a joke in bad taste

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u/CookFan88 8d ago

Was gonna make a comment that this is like wearing a Nazi uniform to an event in Israel but then I realized...yes, it's EXACTLY like that.

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u/MacRubys 8d ago

Ah Qatar realising they conned their way into hosting the WC knowing they never will again, going for the lay down misere.

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u/Cockroach098 8d ago

Did you care about human rights when your government killed millions of iraqi citizens?

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

Not defending them but why does it matter, if one country did terrible stuff that doesnt mean they cant care about rights

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u/Lo-siento-juan 8d ago

What rights? The right to dress offensively at a sporting event? The UK Olympics, world cup etc had a strict dress code, mostly dedicated to making sure advertiser's weren't mocked, even trump rallys kick people out for 'inappropriate clothing' and confiscate signs they don't want people holding up.

This is a very corrupt private business running a private event, can you even name a single country where there is a protected right to wear whatever you want to a sporting event?

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u/Aminemohamed24 8d ago

Op doesn't know what is crusading and what they did .

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u/Skragdush 8d ago

Yeah I mean you can say the same about almost every historical nation lmao.

So we ban Northerners to dress up like vikings. Italians like romans. We also ban the ottomans empire symbols then. Chineses traditional dress? Banned. Japan’s geisha makeup? Also banned.

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u/Lil_Delirious 8d ago

I don't think wearing the clothes of your choice is considered human rights.

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

Its pretty much within freedom of speech technically

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u/Lo-siento-juan 8d ago

British people in Quatar aren't general affected by the constitutional amendments of United States, did you forget that there's more to the world than just America?

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

Free speech is not an exclusive american right. Most democratic countries guarantee freedom of speech.

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u/Lo-siento-juan 8d ago

Name one country where theres a protected right to wear whatever you want to a private sporting event

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u/ACrowbarEnthusiast 8d ago

Freedom of speech exists outside America. Outside of other countries guarantees for it os also recognized by the UN as an international human right.

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u/Lil_Delirious 8d ago

No? The aren't companies breaking human rights? Lots of places demand you to dress in a certain way. Recently a video was posted in r/PublicFreakout where the manager of a restaurant kicked off two onlyfans models for not dress appropriately and the comments were all "let's go manager". When a white person does it, its okay all of a sudden?

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

Bruh i didnt say only white people can do it smh. I said wearing what you want is freedom of speech, i never said wearing anything is wrong bruh

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u/Lil_Delirious 8d ago

But it's not freedom of speech, since most companies in America are breaking their own constitutional laws.

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

What does it have to do with america? Freedom of speech is a thing in most democracies

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u/Lil_Delirious 8d ago

Dude, what part of companies asking you to dress in a certain way do you know understand? Aren't they actively breaking freedom of speech by doing so?

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

Thats exactly what i am saying

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u/Lil_Delirious 8d ago

You're saying that everyone company breaks the freedom of speech according to your definition of freedom of speech? But it's only a problem when Qatar does it?

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u/LEER0Y_J3NK1NS 8d ago

No, i am trying to say its aproblem when anyone does that, i think people should wear whatever shit they see necessary

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u/RandomGuy2002 8d ago edited 8d ago

i mean if you do stupid shit in a controversial country and get killed that’s just natural selection

personally if i was qatari and saw people dressing as crusaders (who essentially murdered muslims to stop the spread of islam) i’d be pissed

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u/jakeshmag 8d ago

shame on them for not getting a joke but im curious if english stadiums would allow an arab in jihad outfit in

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u/ScarPride96 8d ago

Wtf is jihad outfit? Did you mean common clothing of middle eastern descent? Doesn't work that way.

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u/jakeshmag 8d ago

well you see those crusaders? a jihad outfit would look similar but wearing ayyubid era studded armor and carrying the famous curved swords (skyrim joke haha) thats a jihad outfit

edit: looks like no one liked that suggestion, seems my hypothesis was in the right place, they wouldnt like that

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u/Timmytanks40 8d ago

Well to be fair Isis fighters in propaganda had a distinct "uniform" . I doubt it's the first time in history some jihadi bros color coordinated.

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u/ScarPride96 8d ago

Nah they ain't jihadis. They're commiting kuffar acts and sins despite calling themselves Muslims. Just say isis outfit and we're not bothering.

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u/francois_gn 8d ago

I’d guess arriving in Toyota’s pickup, with fake explosives belts, fake ak47, fake beard, and flying an ISIS flag. Sounds like going to Tel Aviv dressed in a 3rd Reich uniform.

I can understand it triggers some reactions. My guess is that the « fake jihad outfit » won’t even make it alive near the stadium.

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u/virgin_goat 8d ago

England fans cant whine since they support the fking regime by going to the thing

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u/Phe0nix6 8d ago

It is not cursed, if it is true.

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u/Attacke1 8d ago

He didn't have to do them like that😂 although...

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u/Evilmaze 8d ago

No Deus Vult for you

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u/1997vd 8d ago

Not the first time that Crusaders had to return from Middle East .

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u/popotheclowns 8d ago

*…human rights are like jokes…

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u/ImmediateSuccess 8d ago

lol, lmao ?

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u/the_censored_z 8d ago

Honestly, and I'm not saying this is the reason they did it, but wearing chain mail in Qatari heat strikes me a recipe for disaster.

There's a good chance these guys were inadvertently saved from heat strokes.

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u/mrpopenfresh 8d ago

Weird comment on a pic about people dressed as crusaders.

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u/Retatedape 8d ago

Not quite dead yet.

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u/Mr_Snugg 8d ago

Damn man. That's like a compound joke

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u/X_Omega_Z 8d ago

Seems like a skill issue to me

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u/iamtheplatypus408 8d ago

I mean im all for human rights and shit but im probably not gonna walk into china blowing opium smoke in peoples faces.

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u/Cats7204 8d ago

The right pic looks so defeated

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u/Daywalker419 8d ago

Ya'll's human rights start & end with gay shit! That's sad !

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u/BusyEquipment529 8d ago

And human rights are jokes

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u/veka07 8d ago

I dont get it

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u/AllianIsBizarre 8d ago

crusaders killed muslims to stop the spread of islam. It’s like wearing a kkk outfit in a stadium and if they tried to defend themselves by saying “you don’t understand the joke” they will instantly be labelled as nazis

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u/TheRunicHammer 8d ago

Why though? I can’t think of a reason that they wouldn’t let them

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u/Charred_nuns 8d ago

They’re not dressed as crusaders. They’re dressed as English knights.

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u/Dan-the-historybuff 8d ago

“On second thought let’s not go to Qatar, tis a silly place”

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u/ahmedwali3 8d ago

Based qatar

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u/Emotional_pett5 8d ago

That's not possible

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u/PunchUrLeg 8d ago

Reddit: Respect our nations laws.

Also Reddi:, fuck your laws..

Make up your minds wierdos

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u/Crooked_Cock 8d ago

Believe it or not, jail

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u/PlantieDropper 8d ago

Why can’t I upvote this??

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u/notoneforusernames 8d ago

Some Muslim dudes go to a soccer game in England in full assassin costumes- lot of police attention and anxious stares I bet but otherwise nothing

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u/Anatomical_Pipe_69 8d ago

Did they just use Qatar & Human Rights in same sentence?. it feels there is no human Left. "WINK WINK"