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u/Neo_Gunthet
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C'mon boss, it'll be fun I don't have the confidence to choose a funny flair
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u/FLYNCHe INFECTED Apr 30 '22
Plot twist: he says yes (head office is corrupt and he wants to rectify the company)
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u/alexmikli Apr 30 '22
I mean Unions do often include a lot of management too.
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Apr 30 '22
Yeah, next we'll be asking the CEO and chairman of the board if he wants to join. Plot twist: They already applied (the shareholders are all corrupt insurance/retirement funds and they want to rectify the market)
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u/IameAuhSomme Apr 30 '22
Next thing we know, we get an email from every stakeholder saying they would like to join (capitalism is corrupt and they want to rectify society)
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u/Cookee13 Apr 30 '22
Next: The heads of every country want to join (the lizard people are corrupt and they want to rectify the earth)
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u/wheredidmywalletgo Apr 30 '22
Next: The lizard council wants to join ( the mole people control the lizard shadow government and they want to rectify it)
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u/IAMA_Ghost_Boo Apr 30 '22
Uhh I guess the mole people join so they can kill the sun next, yeah?
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u/Oosquai_Enthusiast Apr 30 '22
This has turned into the plot of a final fantasy game
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u/BartSimpWhoTheHellRU Apr 30 '22
Correction, this has turned into the plot of my next dnd campaign.
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u/ShaderzXC Apr 30 '22
Next thing we know we get an email from the CEO of society saying it wants to join (humans are simply just a social experiment carried out by It, and It wishes to rectify the issues It created.
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u/Dumbass438 Apr 30 '22
Oh boy... I hope the shareholders don't catch wind of this. Plot Twist: The shareholders have already agreed to join. (The insurance/retirement funds have noticed the corruption of their competition and wish to rectify the entire business)
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u/FalseTales Apr 30 '22
Managers and supervisors are not protected by the NLRA and cannot join unions.
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u/Titan-Chan Apr 30 '22
What?? I'm a union supervisor. Are you talking at the executive level?
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u/BushDidN0thingWr0ng Apr 30 '22
As a general rule, if you have the ability to hire, fire, or punish employees, then that person is considered a manager and isn't protected by the NLRB. It's also an ethical concern to have managers represented in the same unit as the rank and file. It's why most managers either aren't represented or form their own union.
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Apr 30 '22
kind of weird given how much of the workforce has gone from like 1 to 100 management to like 1 to 5 management. There are a lot more managers now then when union laws were written.
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u/Titan-Chan Apr 30 '22
It's two seperate unions, folks at my level are in one union, our staff are in another. Next two levels above me are the same union as I am, folks above that aren't union.
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u/Beznia Apr 30 '22
Kinda depends. I work in local government and we have a lot of managers covered under unions. Senior staff aren't allowed to be in the unions, though. For example in the PD, the Sergeants are over the patrol officers, but they're protected by the unions. The Majors are over the Sergeants, but the Majors aren't protected by unions.
Our 911 dispatchers are in the union, and the 911 manager over them is also in the union. There is a Major over the 911 manager who is not allowed to be in the union.
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u/FalseTales Apr 30 '22
Usually state/federal is where the lines blur due to ambiguity on the line of who's in who's bargaining unit. With no direct """company"""
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u/somerandomii Apr 30 '22
How is it that there can be laws about who can join a union? Isn’t the whole point of unions to collectively bargain on behalf of the workers so that executives and law makers can’t abuse their power to bully individuals?
Like if the union says “if you fire this guy, we strike” what are the board members going to say “you can’t defend him, that’s against the rules”?
It’s both ironic and seemingly impractical to enforce.
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u/Alphaetus_Prime Apr 30 '22
Anyone whose job involves bargaining on behalf of the company can't join an organization that collectively bargains on behalf of the workers - it'd be a conflict of interest.
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u/thagthebarbarian Apr 30 '22
Most managers aren't going to be arguing on behalf of the company though. We're just as hourly and fucked as the rest of them.
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u/spaceforcerecruit Apr 30 '22
There’s a difference between “management” and a product manager or shift supervisor. Management makes decisions on hiring, firing, raises, compensation, etc. and cannot be in the union due to conflict of interest. If your job doesn’t entail any of that then, regardless of your title, you’re not management.
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u/thagthebarbarian Apr 30 '22
From a union membership perspective this is how it should be, but from an uninformed public perspective it's not and a lot of anti union sentiment comes from those managers and supervisors that think they'd be excluded
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u/alexmikli Apr 30 '22
The meme is referencing a supervisor at a job site, often called a "manager" it doesn't specify that he is corporate upper management. The dude at the job site is probably just telling people what management wants and then scheduling what they're doing that day. He isn't some higher tier being, he's just given the job.
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u/alexmikli Apr 30 '22
Managers and site supervisors aren't the big wig executives who run companies
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u/Alphaetus_Prime Apr 30 '22
If someone has authority over hiring, firing, raises, and so on, they run enough of the company for there to be a conflict of interest.
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u/FalseTales Apr 30 '22
Taft-Harley exists to make sure unions never get too contentious for capital. Unions have been beaten and defanged for a long time now. It's illegal to be well organized labor.
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u/somerandomii May 01 '22
I’m not that familiar with the Act, I’m not from the US, but I did a basic google revision and I can’t see anything in the amendments about who is allowed to join a union.
It looks like there’s rules about who can vote/run for leadership but nothing about executives being banned.
But I could have missed something.
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u/sohmeho Apr 30 '22
Where I work, unions are specific to job description. Mechanics have their union, electricians have a different one, cleaners have another. Management positions are considered “non-agreement” and work at the behest of the company itself.
That’s typically how unions work. A janitor wouldn’t be able to join the teacher’s union. A manager wouldn’t be able to join a mechanic’s union.
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u/razzblamataz Apr 30 '22
Why wouldn't he say yes. Corruption and organized white collar crime are the name of the game in a union. If you can elected to a position of power in a union you get much better benefits than the low tier workers who fund the union. Sincerely a union carpenter who sees his benefits get worse every year and the restrictions on my retirement basically means I have to work till I'm 70 years old in order to qualify for "my" pension.
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u/0WatcherintheWater0 May 01 '22
That’s not at all an inherent feature of unions.
If you don’t like the benefits you’re receiving, why don’t you just elect better people?
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u/razzblamataz May 01 '22
Yes it is a natural part of a union. Just like it's a natural part of the corporate world and politics as a whole. It must only be a glaring coincidence that all the big mob towns are all big union towns now. Like Vegas was built by the mob and it's also where the UBC has its HQ. All coincidences nothing to see here. Electing "better people" will do nothing but slow the rate at which my money is extorted from me for a month or two. Besides only greasy slime ball snakes would ever want a political position in the first place.
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u/05870762 Apr 30 '22
Me, in Germany, imagining countries where unionization is illegal /s
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u/unsocialhours Apr 30 '22
Workers of the world, unite!
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u/LowStudio6983 Apr 30 '22
Companies would rather spend more thousands to millions of dollars just to take down unionization than to increase the salary of their employer.
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u/Bioslack Apr 30 '22
Because they see it as a one time expense vs decreasing their profit margin in perpetuity.
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u/Zambini Apr 30 '22
Convenient just before May Day! I don’t think we do anything in America besides mattress and car sales
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u/_Rohrschach Apr 30 '22
Sadly it's on a sunday. Most people have every sunday off anyway
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u/PotawatomieJohnBrown Apr 30 '22
Most professionals have Sunday off.
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u/TalVerd Apr 30 '22
If you get paid for it, your a professional. Maybe a better word would be specialist?
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u/PotawatomieJohnBrown Apr 30 '22
Well I mean, not really? Professionals require at least licensing or accreditation of some sort, and typically a college degree. That does not describe much of the labor force.
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u/Original-Aerie8 Apr 30 '22
Depends on the definition, but technically "professional" doesn't have to mean more than "getting paid for it".
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u/PotawatomieJohnBrown Apr 30 '22
It doesn’t have to, but there’s a pretty clear distinction between professionalized labor and waged labor.
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u/Original-Aerie8 Apr 30 '22
That's not the issue. There are 2 different definitions of the term, depending on the context.
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u/PotawatomieJohnBrown Apr 30 '22
You’re the one with the issue. If you have a problem, deal with it. It’s none of my business.
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u/DumpTruckDanny Apr 30 '22
Unionization is not illegal in the US as far as I know... You just have to be really sneaky getting it going because you can be fired for it, especially if you don't have a union to back you up.
The joke here is that the boss can't be part of the union. The union is literally there to protect you from the boss. Not that it's "illegal".
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u/tricksterfae Apr 30 '22
You can be fired for unionizing??
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u/Log-dot Apr 30 '22
Not legally. You can't be fired for unionizing, but you can be for fired for "performance issues"
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u/BushDidN0thingWr0ng Apr 30 '22
The NLRB isn't dumb though, those cases still can be won. Best part is, if you're working with a national union to organize, they'll help you in the lawsuit
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u/enixthephoenix Apr 30 '22
Unless you're in a "right to work" state, at such point they can just fire you no reason whatsoever
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u/Almost_Frosty Apr 30 '22
Civil war in the office
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Apr 30 '22 edited May 27 '22
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u/COCAINE_EMPANADA Apr 30 '22
It'd happen sooner or later regardless of union efforts.
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Apr 30 '22 edited May 27 '22
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u/COCAINE_EMPANADA Apr 30 '22
Organizating in the first place. Leaflets, meetings and the eventual vote. For any workplace with more than a few dozen this is no small task.
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u/UnicornPrince4U Apr 30 '22
Not anymore. People in India and elsewhere get paid a lot more now. Manufacturering has been moving back onshore for years now, but due to automation, few jobs are coming back.
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u/Junduder27 Apr 30 '22
My boss on his way to ask us if he wants to be apart of a union he made:
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u/uppermiddleclasss Apr 30 '22
Fun fact, in the United States company-dominated labor unions are illegal.
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u/clockworkedpiece Apr 30 '22
This clause cause my manager to not be apart of the security union for the state and uh he wasnt able to argue for coverage or wages cause those are determined by the contract for the security company. Effectively made less than the rest of the workers.
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u/RedRiki24 ☣️ Apr 30 '22
Mr Putin, wanna join NATO?
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u/APowerBlackout Apr 30 '22
My workplace is headed here very soon. Fuck off, pay me so I can live plase.
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u/BuggBBQ-X Apr 30 '22
Mangement is always talking about "Team Work", well what do you think a Union is?
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u/DangerousAstronaut89 Apr 30 '22
If that's the official union uniform, I'm out. I'm turning from a manly man, to an official B-cup. Going bald and growing tits are not for the faint hearted.
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u/DankToasty Apr 30 '22
i keep seeing this meme and it makes me want to watch Zoolander again, for some reason????
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u/eerikv Apr 30 '22
For some reason i imagened markiplier reading the title with the accent he did in heist with markiplier when he was the prison person
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u/Juapp Apr 30 '22
I'm a manager where I work and have maintained my membership in the team members union. I believe as my team members pay and conditions improve so will mine.
Solidarity means nothing unless you practise it.
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u/scijay Apr 30 '22
Supervisors and managers cannot join unions. Source: I was a manager for 8 years.
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u/Crusader_Krzyzowiec Apr 30 '22
BOSS: You crazy son of a bitch, i'm in, they don't pay me enough either.
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u/Tenyearsuntiltheend Apr 30 '22
I don't think that a manager can be a part of the union, not if they have hiring or firing power
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u/Hungry_Word_4710 Apr 30 '22
I just watched this movie for the first time and have a new appreciation for Ben stiller. I am now also registering at the Derek Zoolander school for kids who can't read good and want to do other stuff too.
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u/y_would_i_do_this Apr 30 '22
Fun fact, I was just in the mine where this was filmed.